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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Copps is Magic on December 07, 2015, 01:17:33 pm
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Not even in the squad yesterday. Not injured. Fergie was asked about it post game and just said 'he wasn't in my plans'. Whitehouse and McKay in front of Forrester? Find that hard to believe.
The question is really have we already received a bid/interest in him? Sheff U, Rotherham or some other lower end championship team would be my guess.
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Has he even been on the pitch under Fergie? Has there been a bust up that I have missed? Normally these kind of comments are 'not in my plans at the moment', but this doesn't even seem to be dangling a carrot!
Seems a waste of his undoubtable talents.
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Has he even been on the pitch under Fergie? Has there been a bust up that I have missed? Normally these kind of comments are 'not in my plans at the moment', but this doesn't even seem to be dangling a carrot!
Seems a waste of his undoubtable talents.
He undoubtedly has got the talent. Just a shame he doesn't use it more often. I don't know but DF sees his every day in training and maybe there might be an attitude problem as well?
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I must admit I expected him to go out on loan before the window closed. I doubt he'll be here come the end of January. What has happened we don't know, but it seems he's upset someone.
I get the feeling there are one or two others who don't feature in Ferguson' plans.
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Maybe sheff united in a swop for alcock
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I must admit I expected him to go out on loan before the window closed. I doubt he'll be here come the end of January. What has happened we don't know, but it seems he's upset someone.
I get the feeling there are one or two others who don't feature in Ferguson' plans.
It's a very strange situation because our other wingers, Stewart and Felipe are both on loan, so we must have got some assurance that one or both can stay for longer, otherwise we're going to be left with one winger who hasn't played for however many months.
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Your right there Copps....You can only assume that Forresters agent has been on demanding a move and Fergie has agreed to that when the window opens..Like you say bags of potential but just doesn't seem to have either the consistency or attitude to go with it...the game is littered with those type of players...
From Forresters point of view if he cant get in the squad, nether mind the bench he needs to leave..Whatever your reputation you can soon get forgotten about and if he finds the right fit for him,he can still be a great asset to someone...
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Has he even been on the pitch under Fergie? Has there been a bust up that I have missed? Normally these kind of comments are 'not in my plans at the moment', but this doesn't even seem to be dangling a carrot!
Seems a waste of his undoubtable talents.
He had a couple of outings from the bench in the away games at Peterborough and Millwall. He's not been on the pitch since.
He was an unused sub against Stalybridge but I guess his omission yesterday might owe something to not allowing him to become cup-tied.
Looking back, Rob Jones seemed similarly reluctant to use him, at least as a starter. It could be argued that he was coming back after injury then, but it could mean any "issues" pre-date Ferguson's arrival.
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if we signed Stewart on a permanent basis.
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It is a significant fact that none of our three managers have reckoned Forrester It must be his character !
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Maybe sheff united in a swop for alcock
I hope not.
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So far I would describe Alcock as average tbh but seen as though Fergy has worked with him before he knows what he's capable off...Looks like he needs the confidence of a decent run in a team...
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Difficult to just disregard a player as good as Forrester.
Maybe DF is looking to see what reaction he will get from Forrester, see if Forrester is willing to fight for his place.
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forrester is a show pony
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Well at least he ain't cup tied.
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Like DF's ruthless streak, came in identified weaknesses & where we needed to strengthen & acted
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if we signed Stewart on a permanent basis.
could do worse, good player on his day
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Certainly don't think Forrester has been overlooked based on football ability alone. I watched the programme about Fergie senior and his attitude was if he didn't think a player was right for the dressing room/didn't buy in to what the manager wanted then his advice was 'get rid'. Which is what he did with Beckham.
You have to think that something like this was connected with Wellens move and with Forrester not being given a chance.
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Has posted a message saying excited on Twitter.
Possibly playing today?
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Can't see it myself. More likely his move has been agreed if I had to guess.
We will find out very soon!
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Judging by past txts he's probably got a new jumper for xmas. Tends to be a bit of a wind up merchant tho he's been pretty quiet of late.
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I don't think he will be the only one shown the door in January
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we need about 4/5 in too
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Judging by past txts he's probably got a new jumper for xmas. Tends to be a bit of a wind up merchant tho he's been pretty quiet of late.
I dont think ill forgive his "banter" when he posted "Vegas booked for [date of playoff's]". When some fans questioned him he said he was "just seeing who would bite". Why would you wind up your own fans??
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Judging by past txts he's probably got a new jumper for xmas. Tends to be a bit of a wind up merchant tho he's been pretty quiet of late.
I dont think ill forgive his "banter" when he posted "Vegas booked for [date of playoff's]". When some fans questioned him he said he was "just seeing who would bite". Why would you wind up your own fans??
To see who has and who hasn't got a sense of humour?
COYR
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Not involved again
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Would expect a deal sorted by the end of the first week in jan. Just hope its not a loan
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Would suspect Wellens and Forrester will be gone almost straight away.
Loan for Main?
Might pay up contracts of Chaplow and N'Guessan if we get a few in.
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Excited he's not going to Oldham perhaps? I can understand that!
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He'll be excited about getting a contract at another club based solely on his talent which he only applies 50% of the time.
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We won't pay up any contracts that's a fact.
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Such a shame,right attitude and he could have been the difference with us making the play offs or not,guess his attitude isnt right :pinch:
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It would be good to know what the problem is actually.
Maybe it will come out one day.
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what like he is gay?
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what like he is gay?
Is that a problem?
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There is only one sportsman in the whole world who is definitily not homosexual.
That is the American golfer......NOTA BEGAY.
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Harry Forrester @harry_forrester 5m5 minutes ago
Sometimes- jus follow the path ... You may end up somewhere very special 👍🏻🙌🏻
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Had about 3 good games in 3 years so get rid for me. I bet he's on good money which I am sure fergy will use wisely.
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Harry Forrester @harry_forrester 5m5 minutes ago
Sometimes- jus follow the path ... You may end up somewhere very special 👍🏻🙌🏻
Or if he carries on with not getting the best from himself he will end up at Fisher Athletic, even though i don't think they are still going!. :laugh:
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Harry Forrester @harry_forrester 5m5 minutes ago
Sometimes- jus follow the path ... You may end up somewhere very special 👍🏻🙌🏻
Or if he carries on with not getting the best from himself he will end up at Fisher Athletic, even though i don't think they are still going!. :laugh:
Stocksbridge Park Steels might give him a run out.
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Harry Forrester @harry_forrester 5m5 minutes ago
Sometimes- jus follow the path ... You may end up somewhere very special 👍🏻🙌🏻
Or if he carries on with not getting the best from himself he will end up at Fisher Athletic, even though i don't think they are still going!. :laugh:
Stocksbridge Park Steels might give him a run out.
Yes the second team!.
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Latest rumour is that he's going to rejoin Mark Warburton at Rangers.
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Hot off the press.........http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/12/29/rangers-to-land-doncasters-forrester-on-free-transfer/
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We are a regular supplier of folk to the Scottish leagues these days - I make that Martin Woods, Gary Woods, Dean Shiels, Mustapha Dumbuya and now Forrester that are playing north of the border.
What a doomed relationship with Forrester. Out injured for virtually his entire first season. Used sparingly by Dickov then abandoned by Ferguson.
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He also started following a Rangers fan on Twitter that tweeted him saying 'look forward to seeing you at Rangers, Harry.'
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Makes sense, assuming Warburton was at Brentford when Forrester was.
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It does make sense and a great move for him. Makes sense for us and good news for us really. Just doesn't fit here and a move is sensible. Probably our highest paid player too, but hasn't lived up to anything like the potential he could have.
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Will there be a player coming in the opposite direction?
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Will there be a player coming in the opposite direction?
I hope not
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Two steps down in quality but he'll be playing in front of 40k for similar wages so good move for him.
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Will there be a player coming in the opposite direction?
I hope not
I just put the question out there, I've no idea if there are any players at Rangers good enough to move to Rovers. I'm sure Fergie will know, and probably Sammy too!
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Dean Shiels the one eyed wizard.
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Dean Shiels the one eyed wizard.
I remember he left Rovers to play for his dad's team, I'm sure it wasn't Rangers. Though he might have moved to Rangers later.
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Kilmarnock was where he played for his dad, yes. He's currently at Rangers though.
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Kilmarnock was where he played for his dad, yes. He's currently at Rangers though.
RedJ, Thanks for the information.
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Such as shame nobody could get the best out of him. I personally thought he was more dangerous just off the/a striker/s but he kept getting stuck out on the wing.
Top player in sure he will do well playing for someone who trusts him.
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We are a regular supplier of folk to the Scottish leagues these days - I make that Martin Woods, Gary Woods, Dean Shiels, Mustapha Dumbuya and now Forrester that are playing north of the border.
What a doomed relationship with Forrester. Out injured for virtually his entire first season. Used sparingly by Dickov then abandoned by Ferguson.
Paul Heffernan too.Richard offiong had his best spell at Accies after us,although he's at Durham now.
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Two steps down in quality.........
That makes the Scottish Championship on a par with the National League. So we mention Rangers in the same breath as the likes of Bromley, Boreham Wood, etc. Really? :)
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Rangers vs. Cheltenham would certainly be a competitive game as would Dumbarton vs Tranmere, for example.
Beyond Hibs, Rangers and Falkirk Scottish championship sides would probably struggle against conference opposition.
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Kilmarnock was where he played for his dad, yes. He's currently at Rangers though.
I think he has moved on from Rangers.
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Will there be a player coming in the opposite direction?
I don't wish to seem rude, but I'm not sure Rangers would have anyone who would improve us.
I'm interested that the report suggests it will be a free transfer. I wonder if the situation is a bit like that with Duffy and Rangers will be paying Brentford some of the money we owe them?
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If it is true best of luck to him.
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Kilmarnock was where he played for his dad, yes. He's currently at Rangers though.
I think he has moved on from Rangers.
Maybe you should tell them that... http://rangers.co.uk/talent/dean-shiels/
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We are a regular supplier of folk to the Scottish leagues these days - I make that Martin Woods, Gary Woods, Dean Shiels, Mustapha Dumbuya and now Forrester that are playing north of the border.
What a doomed relationship with Forrester. Out injured for virtually his entire first season. Used sparingly by Dickov then abandoned by Ferguson.
Paul Heffernan too.Richard offiong had his best spell at Accies after us,although he's at Durham now.
Wabara was at Rangers Pre Season but Warburton soon sent him back South .
Luckily for us he stopped off at Barnsley .
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Many on the dingles forum want rid of Wabara, Steven Bywater is on trial there as well.
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Rangers considered Wabara not good enough for them...that's gotta hurt as a player, hasn't it??!?
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Many on the dingles forum want rid of Wabara, Steven Bywater is on trial there as well.
And here was me thinking I'd read a few weeks ago from some Barnsley fans, gloating about the diamond they had stolen from the blind men of Doncaster. Nah, obviously they've realised the truth...though are strangely silent on the matter now.
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If Forrester doesn't go to Rangers, might he head South to a Lg 1 team in or near the London area? He was at Brentford before joining us.
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Many on the dingles forum want rid of Wabara, Steven Bywater is on trial there as well.
That is hilarious. Absolutely terrible goalkeeper. I can't wait to see this.
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Don't think he was terrible. Would put him in same box as the Jed Steer lad and Carl Ikeme. Short-term fixes that were unconvincing. Buying a reliable and unspectacular keeper should always be first priority. Bizarre we went through entire season last year without a permanent goalie.
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Forrester finally found his level in the Scottish 2nd tier will be the only person with a sun tan in Glasgow , good riddance!
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We are a regular supplier of folk to the Scottish leagues these days - I make that Martin Woods, Gary Woods, Dean Shiels, Mustapha Dumbuya and now Forrester that are playing north of the border.
What a doomed relationship with Forrester. Out injured for virtually his entire first season. Used sparingly by Dickov then abandoned by Ferguson.
Paul Quinn and Meite were also there last year (Scottish Prem with Ross County I think), and according to Google PQ has now joined Aberdeen almost Table toppers in SPL and AM still at Ross County
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Forrester finally found his level in the Scottish 2nd tier will be the only person with a sun tan in Glasgow , good riddance!
Good riddance because he's got a suntan...?
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No because he's on high wages and he's either been injured , suspended or doesn't seem to have the right attitude or application to be in DF' s plans.
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Yes, it's a shame we didn't see the best of him often enough. The best all round that he moves on. A player in the prime of life should be playing football.
Good luck to him!
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HF destroyed Coventry in last season's Boxing Day fixture - that is the talent that we rarely got to see.
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Kilmarnock was where he played for his dad, yes. He's currently at Rangers though.
I think he has moved on from Rangers.
Maybe you should tell them that... http://rangers.co.uk/talent/dean-shiels/
I didn't say he had moved. I said I thought he had moved.
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Sorry, I didn't meant it to come across as snarky as it reads looking back. :)
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He will go to Rangers then sign for a club down here again for about £3m.
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Poor man's Adel Taarabt.
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He will go to Rangers then sign for a club down here again for about £3m. Ha ha hilarious
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Probably would not get 3 Mill for their entire First Team
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Think dean could be at Brechin city now.scored on sat.
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I still think Forrester has the ability to be in our squad but for some reason DF has decided hes not got a future here. I wonder if at some point Forrester has refused to sign a contract extension and pi**ed Fergie off?
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Think dean could be at Brechin city now.scored on sat.
That's why I thought he had moved from Rangers. It seems it is a different Dean Shiels.
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Think dean could be at Brechin city now.scored on sat.
'Our' Dean Shiels played for Rangers against Hibs yesterday, it's a different one.
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Confusingly in 2002 we had Dene Shields on loan from Sunderland.
If they weren't playing a decade apart you would have sworn that the latter was a name rip-off like on crap no licence football video games.
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Fulham away when he came on at half time was his best performance for us, absolutely destroyed them on his own, and if it wasn't for theo shit pen he would've got us on level terms from 2 down
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If he's going on a free then I hope we have a sell-on clause.
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I liked Forrester. As possibly the best player we had at the start of the season he was a major reason why I decided to continue my investment in buying a season ticket.
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If I was a Rangers supporter I would be gutted we had signed a player who could not get in a team TLO Donny
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/exclusive-rangers-boss-mark-warburton-7089396
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I liked Forrester. As possibly the best player we had at the start of the season he was a major reason why I decided to continue my investment in buying a season ticket.
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm there BB? Please forgive me if I am wrong, but didn't you predict that HF would be gone before the start of this season?
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/exclusive-rangers-boss-mark-warburton-7089396
Seems odd that Rovers would agree to that arrangement. Not so much to do with a transfer fee but because it would scupper any chance of a sell-on clause.
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So he is effectivly a free agent reading that! So if the move was to fall through would he return to us?
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So he is effectivly a free agent reading that! So if the move was to fall through would he return to us?
I doubt it - as it looks like we don't want him anyway!
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I liked Forrester. As possibly the best player we had at the start of the season he was a major reason why I decided to continue my investment in buying a season ticket.
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm there BB? Please forgive me if I am wrong, but didn't you predict that HF would be gone before the start of this season?
Yes I think I did predict he would leave before the start of the season, in fact I thought he'd leave at the end of last season, but even I get things wrong some times.
As it turned out he was still with us when I renewed my season ticket. I thought at the time we would be hi-flying for promotion this season and that he'd play a major part in the team, resulting in him being happy to stay.
As it turned out neither happened, and we are where we are now - looking to offload him.
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He is a free agent in the summer so we were highly unlikely to get a fee for him, by letting him go we are freeing up wages which can be more productively used for players that will be in matchday squads. HF is clearly not wanted for whatever reason so this makes sense.
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So does he come with a free watch or did they win that some other way ?
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Confusingly in 2002 we had Dene Shields on loan from Sunderland.
If they weren't playing a decade apart you would have sworn that the latter was a name rip-off like on crap no licence football video games.
Funnily enough that Dene Shields is the same one now at Brechin. So both Rangers and Brechin have ex-Rovers players in their teams named Dean/Dene Shiel(d)s, essentially.
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Their fans are not very happy about the disrespectful things (Not thinking any of their players are good enough for us) we've been saying about their massive club. :lol:
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Their fans are not very happy about the disrespectful things (Not thinking any of their players are good enough for us) we've been saying about their massive club. :lol:
Do we care what an insignificant Scotish 2nd tier club and their fans think? 😀
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Their fans are not very happy about the disrespectful things (Not thinking any of their players are good enough for us) we've been saying about their massive club. :lol:
Do we care what an insignificant Scotish 2nd tier club and their fans think? 😀
Nope. And they can keep their Hogmanay b0ll0cks as well.
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Their fans are not very happy about the disrespectful things (Not thinking any of their players are good enough for us) we've been saying about their massive club. :lol:
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Is that the club that was so massive, they assumed they didn't have to pay their tax bill?
f**k em. And if any of their fans are reading, you will be in for a big surprise the first time that knee high tackles start flying in one of their matches and they find themselves down to 10 men even though they have 11 on the pitch.
Enjoy lads.
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Harry Forrester @harry_forrester 2m2 minutes ago
Absolutely delighted to sign a deal with @RangersFC can't wait to put on the famous blue jersey 💙 thanks for all the welcoming messages
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Surprised he didn't go with the massive club line.
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Surprised he didn't go with the massive club line.
He'll save that for his first interview with the Scttish tier 2 club he's signed for, thats if a small club like that has media facilities like 😀
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I'm more concerned where they've got money to give us a fee for him from.
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I'm more concerned where they've got money to give us a fee for him from.
They've just given Mike Ashley 5m back , so a couple of quid for Harry won't hurt them.
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I'm more concerned where they've got money to give us a fee for him from.
I shouldn't be concerned, as long as the money is in the bank, it's their problem
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His 18K following on Twitter should increase to 100K over night.
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Good luck to him. Donny fans love a plodder, not someone with a modicum of talent.
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Good luck to him. Donny fans love a plodder, not someone with a modicum of talent.
f**k all point having talent if your attitude is too shite to ever put it to any good use.
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Donny fans first and foremost love a player with some heart. Most of us can spot a fanny merchant with no balls a mile off.
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Welcome to the worlds most successful club http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/Smileys/aaron/blackbankscarf.gif
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It never fails to amaze me the shite that comes out of people when one of our players leaves the club. Whether they're good, bad or indifferent. Why not just wish him well and move on?
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To be fair one of their fans did come on here giving it the berty big bollox act and I think he got a fair appraisal of Harry in return.
In the end it's a move that I think will work out well for all parties involved.
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If he'd given heart and soul and applied himself professionally in every game, I would wish him the very best of luck.
Given how he performed when it really mattered last year, and his juvenile behaviour over set pieces against Sheff Utd last year and this year at really important moments, he can just go and do his growing up elsewhere.
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Worlds most successful club that is currently plying it's trade in a league equivalent to our 5th tier, which they failed to get out of last year
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... bags again. He should be doing it for us keeping us up. Unforgivable that DF didn't try to get the best out of him. Rangers will end up selling him for upwards of a million.
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Only contracted till end of season with them then he will get some good offers
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Assisted the second
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Don't worry Ferguson spotted McLean and Mackail-Smith..... Oh no wait they were already at Peterboro when he got there!
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Should have built a team around him.
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Is this going to be on everytime he's scored? The Scottish championship is about on par with league 2. He should be banging them in up there. He didn't do it with us, so was moved on. This is almost as boring as the SOD updates.
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Is this going to be on everytime he's scored? The Scottish championship is about on par with league 2. He should be banging them in up there. He didn't do it with us, so was moved on. This is almost as boring as the SOD updates.
The thread title is very clear. Nobody forced you to read/reply.
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Not really Forrester was our most talented player bar Copps and needed a manager to nurture his potential and instead Fergie looked at a player out of form and out of confidence and shipped him out! The man has no idea at all!
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Not really Forrester was our most talented player bar Copps and needed a manager to nurture his potential and instead Fergie looked at a player out of form and out of confidence and shipped him out! The man has no idea at all!
Maybe he just didn't want to be here and made it clear that he wouldn't put the effort in training or playing?
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Is this going to be on everytime he's scored? The Scottish championship is about on par with league 2. He should be banging them in up there. He didn't do it with us, so was moved on. This is almost as boring as the SOD updates.
It doesn't matter what level the Scottish Championship is equivalent to. The fact of the matter is he would & could be doing that on a regular (ish) basis for us. And you know it !!!
But I agree with you about SOD :)
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You can put your view across as clever and convincing as you like, but the point is that he was the best player at the club and wasn't even in the first team.
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Sometimes players have to move on for personal reasons and has nothing to do with their football ability.
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Sometimes players have to move on for personal reasons and has nothing to do with their football ability.
This is true. We'll probably never know why he left. But the fact that Wellens & Jones both went around the same time makes me think this was Fergie trying to show who's in charge. And look where it's got us !?!?
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That's fair enough SM, but then you have to ask why a player with more than adequate football ability has to move on because personal reasons couldn't be resolved.
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Jones went because he wasn't fit and hadn't trained. There was never any sign that he would ever get fit enough to play.
Wellens went because he wanted to. He was disruptive in the changing room and had fallen out with his teammates.
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Is this going to be on everytime he's scored? The Scottish championship is about on par with league 2. He should be banging them in up there. He didn't do it with us, so was moved on. This is almost as boring as the SOD updates.
It doesn't matter what level the Scottish Championship is equivalent to. The fact of the matter is he would & could be doing that on a regular (ish) basis for us. And you know it !!!
But I agree with you about SOD :)
Not a chance of HF doing it regularly for us, show pony! No heart when it got tough.
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It isn't the fact that they left, its more to do that they weren't replaced by anyone of the same quality, not by a long way.
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Oh I don't know. Last few matches I've seen, it's been just like having half a dozen Harry Forresters and Richie Wellenses on the pitch.
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Oh I don't know. Last few matches I've seen, it's been just like having half a dozen Harry Forresters and Richie Wellenses on the pitch.
Wellens was our best player earlier on in the season
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Blame the board getting rid of high earner's
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... bags again. He should be doing it for us keeping us up. Unforgivable that DF didn't try to get the best out of him. Rangers will end up selling him for upwards of a million.
Only Celtic in Scotland COULD pay a Million and they probably would not sign an "enemy" Player even if they could afford it
IMO he had ample opportunity to show US he could play and failed (mostly) .... and the standard up there is now on a par with Div 1 so how many Div 1 Teams pay a Million for anybody ? I ask that in all seriousness as I really don't know
I do know that next Season Rangers will play Ross County who will have Gary Woods (Rovers reject) Martin Woods (Rovers injured almost always reject) and Paul Quinn (Rovers reject - but would get in Team now) .... so HF will have found his true level
Without employing his brain cells and using the whole of the talent "god gave him" he will have found his level and will stay at that level .... till Annan Athletic come calling
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Ferguson got told by blunt to get the high earners of the books straight away and he did....and people go on supporting this board and Baldwin??
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Ha ha ha
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Harry had plenty of chances to prove himself. He showed it in flashes but he was injured for a long time and pretty inconsistent. A shame but such is the game.
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Ferguson got told by blunt to get the high earners of the books straight away and he did....and people go on supporting this board and Baldwin??
How do you know? Or are you just stirring your usual unfounded rumours that would clearly not be true!!
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Jones went because he wasn't fit and hadn't trained. There was never any sign that he would ever get fit enough to play.
No sign that he would ever get fit enough to play? He played (very well) within a week or two of leaving us.
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... bags again. He should be doing it for us keeping us up. Unforgivable that DF didn't try to get the best out of him. Rangers will end up selling him for upwards of a million.
Oh FFS!
He's playing in a Mickey Mouse league - have you ever suffered even five minutes of Scottish Championship so-called football?
If some mug wants to splash out a million quid for that gutless one-trick pony, good luck to 'em - we're well rid!
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... and the BBC have the gall to show the Fixtures on their Website as :
(our) Premier League
(our) Championship
Scottish Prem
(our) Div One
(our) Div Two
... thus inferring that the Scottish Prem is somehow more "important" than our Div One which we have recorded above IS NOT ... and that somehow we care anything about the SPL which most of us dont
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Top 3 scorers in the SPL (league above what Forrester is playing in):
Leigh Griffiths (Celtic) - played 3 seasons in championship with wolves before being sent out on loan to hibs
Kane Hemmings (Dundee) - only played 1 season in English football (last season for Barnsley, who got relegated)
Adam Rooney - no english club has ever paid money for him. scored 4 in 24 for oldham. averaged 4 a season whilst in english football (has played all 3 levels of FL)
This demonstrates the standard of strikers at the top of Scottish football, which should also highlight the standards in the leagues below.
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Good player but bit one-dimensional. Also no evidence of consistency with us so you wouldn't want to risk a million on a player who may or not be good enough for English Championship and even if so they may or may not be bothered to turn it on every now and again.
Might come good. Might not. Up to him really.
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I was a bit surprised that Ferguson didn't give Forrester a run in the side when he came in. However it suggests to me that either talks about him moving on had already been held, or that he didn't show enough in training to get selected. Or a bit of both!
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Like Silent Majority said, sometimes players have to move on for personal reasons and has nothing to do with their football ability. That's fair enough.
Perhaps a replacement might have been beneficial though.
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If Rangers and Celtic were put in at conference level in England they would be in Premier League within five seasons with any half-decent management.
50k home gates guarenteed would dwarf pretty much any Championship club bar soon to be relegated Geordies.
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Ferguson got told by blunt to get the high earners of the books straight away and he did....and people go on supporting this board and Baldwin??
Where is your evidence, after a statement like that?
Wellness wanted out, Jones was injured and Forrester's heart just wasn't at Rovers. Fault? Dickov/Ferguson or was it Forrester himself.
We will probably never know, but a talent wasted that's for sure.
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Ferguson got told by blunt to get the high earners of the books straight away and he did....and people go on supporting this board and Baldwin??
Where is your evidence, after a statement like that?
Hahaha don't hold your breath on a response there mate. Not one that isn't moving the goal posts and asking another question because he can't provide any, at least.
If Rangers and Celtic were put in at conference level in England they would be in Premier League within five seasons with any half-decent management.
50k home gates guarenteed would dwarf pretty much any Championship club bar soon to be relegated Geordies.
I still believe if they had joined the Premier League at the turn of the century, they'd have won European trophies by now.
Christ, that seems an eternity ago now in sporting terms. Was that a realistic proposition? I can't remember.
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You can have all the ability you want, but if the desire isn't there to make the best from yourself, you have no chance. He will put it in there because he doesn't feel Rangers are beneath him, i was never convinced he was ever happy playing for us, plus he is playing for a manager who he knows well.
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I think the manager bit is key, Sammy. He's a high maintenance player and Warburton knows which buttons he has to press.
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I suspect the quality of the opposition is key.
Look at the goal scoring records of the Rangers squad.
Kenny Miller who is older than Methusalah is scoring at one every 2 games.
Martin Waghorn, who scored 30 goals in 7 seasons in the Championship has got 20 goals in 24 starts this year.
Dean Shiels is scoring at nearly one every other start in his Rangers career.
It's a turkey shoot and Forrester is filling his boots. Good luck to him, but it means nowt.
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I think the manager bit is key, Sammy. He's a high maintenance player and Warburton knows which buttons he has to press.
Not knowing him personally my impression is he will be the sort of guy that needs praising a lot, but if you praise him too much he is the sort that will coast along.
There can't be many who are not disappointed in him, because the ability is there. I was really happy when we got him, and on a free, the guy i saw for Brentford wasn't the same in a rovers shirt.
If you are a great player you can play for anybody as manager, he has the potential to be very good, but his character will stop him ever being great.
On the standard of scottish football, it's a real mix of differing abilities among the sides. Some are almost amateur in quality others would do okay down here. In the league he is in there are probably 2-3 sides who would be top half of our league, the rest are between league two and conference standard.
The one thing i would say about scottish football they are still playing it as a mans game up there, the feigning injury and rolling around isn't as bad as down here. Personally i still think you can get a good player from there, they are just not as abundant in quality as other years. He could very easily be playing champions league football in 2-3 years, or he could be playing back here in the lower leagues it's upto him which.
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A lot of Brentford fans thought that he didn't perform on a regular basis.
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Has signed a contract with Rangers to the end of 2019.
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That's the news we've all been praying to hear.
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Can we please just have one dedicated 'Harry Forrester' thread for the people who bizarrely still care about his every move to talk about? Every time he bloody sneezes there's a thread on here pointing it out.
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That's because with the right manager he could have been the player to keep us up this season! That lad needed a manager that could sit down and talk to him in a calm manager and help him not just on but off the pitch! Fergie is not that man!
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Would have been first to go missing in crunch relegation games. Think he can do better than Scotland though if he learns to focus properly.
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That's because with the right manager he could have been the player to keep us up this season! That lad needed a manager that could sit down and talk to him in a calm manager and help him not just on but off the pitch! Fergie is not that man!
That's nice, but I've read it roughly a million times since Forrester left, across a dozen threads. It's boring, it's old news. Players leave us, for whatever reason, and sometimes they were good players who could've helped us but so be it. He's moved on, so why can't everyone else?
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Can we please just have one dedicated 'Harry Forrester' thread for the people who bizarrely still care about his every move to talk about?
done :aok:
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Would have been first to go missing in crunch relegation games. Think he can do better than Scotland though if he learns to focus properly.
I think I could do well in Scotland to be fair.
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That's because with the right manager he could have been the player to keep us up this season! That lad needed a manager that could sit down and talk to him in a calm manager and help him not just on but off the pitch! Fergie is not that man!
Contrary to the wizard of Oz myth courage isn't something you can learn. You either have it or you don't ... Forrester doesn't.
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.... AND he only has one good leg now - broke the bad one and is out of the Semi Final v Celtic tomorrow
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..... AND much as I think we should all move on I see HF has landed a 3 year contract
http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/forrester-misses-cup-semi/
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Mugs. Watch his form dip now.
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That's him done for and goodbye. Anyone that thinks he's too good to wear our shirt with pride doesn't deserve all this attention.
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Mugs. Watch his form dip now.
Yeah, i bet he doesn't do anything before the end of the season now. :zzz:
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I could score 30 goals a season in that league n that's not including the tap ins
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Harry Forrester Verified account @harry_forrester · Apr 23
Also big win for @drfc_official 👏🏻 hope they do it 👍🏻
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I could score 30 goals a season in that league n that's not including the tap ins
So why aren't you doing it then?
Genuine question.