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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: normal rules on January 04, 2016, 10:34:33 pm
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I saw one showed up during the league cup game against Leeds (hayter when it mattered) and the Blackpool show of solidarity at their place.
More to come?
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Watch this space.
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Help me out, I don't understand this thread :saywhat:
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Thank god - I thought it was just me not "down with it"
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Tifo [ˈtiːfo], is the Italian word for the phenomenon of supporting a sport team. In some countries (but not in Italy) it's mostly used as a name for any choreography displayed by fans in the stands of an arena or stadium in connection with a sport event, mostly as part of an association football match
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Cheers CIM - sounds interesting
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Tifo [ˈtiːfo], is the Italian word for the phenomenon of supporting a sport team. In some countries (but not in Italy) it's mostly used as a name for any choreography displayed by fans in the stands of an arena or stadium in connection with a sport event, mostly as part of an association football match
Ok, that almost clears it up, thanks, but what was Hayter doing dancing at the Leeds cup game?
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in English its when multiple fans hold up pieces of card or paper to make up a giant picture I.E ,face or flag
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We're way behind Europe in these matters.
This is a good Youtube channel if you want to see what's going on out there (https://www.youtube.com/user/UltrasWorldHD/videos)
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Tifo [ˈtiːfo], is the Italian word for the phenomenon of supporting a sport team. In some countries (but not in Italy) it's mostly used as a name for any choreography displayed by fans in the stands of an arena or stadium in connection with a sport event, mostly as part of an association football match
Ok, that almost clears it up, thanks, but what was Hayter doing dancing at the Leeds cup game?
Oh that was just some banner a nutter made for the Leeds match. Better stuff is planned. An 'Oyston out' banner was also made for the Blackpool game.
(http://i.imgur.com/lsvzHMH.jpg)
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Whatever happened to good, old fashioned spontaneous shouting and chanting?
Maybe I've been an old git all my life, but I've ALWAYS been bemused by the continentals' love of orchestrated or pre-planned shows of passion at football matches. I've always laughed at the Germans' need to have call and response chanting at games. At the organised bouncing of Polish fans. At the self-indulgent mega-banners of the Spanish and Italians.
We didn't used to need that. We had spontaneous wit. That was the English way.
The English was was not about planning. It was about responding to the f**king moment! Reacting. That was always the core of English support. Before we forgot how to do that, and replaced it with banners and pre-planned chants.
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Billy there is still room for both. I love spontaneity.
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I think there was planning back in the day it just probably happened in the pubs and on the trains. Very difficult to get any chant going without some planning among a group of mates.
I think we've also been a lot more 'visual' in the past than is commonly appreciated. There's some old documentaries about the kop out there Youtube. It was a sea of flags every games. The whole tradition of scarves is another example.
The unique thing about British crowds is they live, breath and cheer every kick of the ball. Like cheering corners. A few years back we never scored from them but our fans always cheered for some reason. It seems fashionable to do this ultra-singing section thing, but I think other countries still look to us for good old fashioned songs.
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I know it isn't much but one of my favourites was "Billy Bremner's red and white army" echoing around the BV pop side for 20-30 minutes at a time...
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Do you think there's a risk we romanticise the past slightly also? In practical terms, the atmosphere at the keepmoat has been beyond bad for a long time to the point where anything was better than nothing (even if it does copy the current trend).
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BST .. I agree .. it's the same as humour ... the French have to make up jokes .. Brits show spontaneous humour .
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Billy there is still room for both. I love spontaneity.
Well said Billy lad! I took some mates to the 2nd leg play off game against Southend. They sorta went under duress. Took 'em in a few of the local pubs before the game and they immediately warmed to the atmosphere. They still talk about the match and in particular the Southend fans' singing non-stop and conga-ing despite being mullered by a rampant Rovers. You'd never get that anywhere else in the world.
They always bring it up when ever we catch up and oddly, despite it being the Southend fans that did it, they still have a soft spot for Rovers.
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Just noticed this on the Black Bank Facebook page:
On Saturday we’re going to try something a little different. As no doubt you’ve seen the Black Bank have brought flags, streamers, banners and colour to the Keepmoat so far this season. On Saturday we’re bringing a TIFO.
TIFO is the Italian word for supporting a football team, is mostly used as a name for any display by football fans in the stands.
To help us get the most out of this opportunity please read the following:
* Attached to every seat in the middle four blocks of the South Stand is a piece of A3 card.
* These cards have been carefully placed to spell out DRFC across the length of the stand, if the person in the seat next to you has a different coloured card please don’t swap them!
* As the players emerge from the tunnel please stand with the card held above your head.
* At the front of the stand there are volunteers who’ll help to direct things.
* Just before Kick Off please put the card back as best you can, we want to re-use them if possible!
These displays are paid for by you, the supporters, so we’d just like to say a massive thank you to you all. Together we’ve made a huge difference to the atmosphere. This is just the beginning!
COYR!
(http://i.imgur.com/tEdmATs.jpg)
https://www.facebook.com/blackbankDRFC/
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We need to stop this awful music before kick off which drowns out an attempt of an atmosphere being created. Back in the day the atmosphere was created before the match and this continued through out the match.
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Completely agree. And goal music.
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Completely paid for by the fans and organised by the fans.
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Good to see hope it works maybe need some a1 sized posters to explain as people walk in though the gates unless this is on the backof the card
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That could be an idea. Helps if people spread this message to anyone who is attending so they know what's going on.
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I do believe they are handing out leaflets. Certainly wouldn't hurt for everyone from this forum who sits in the South to pass the word on though.
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Sits is the south who goes on the south and sits lol
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Billy, the 2 things are not mutually exclusive!
If done correctly and entered into in the right spirit, it should look good from the North Stand, surely.
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Amen to that! :bbscarf:
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I think there was planning back in the day it just probably happened in the pubs and on the trains. Very difficult to get any chant going without some planning among a group of mates.
I think we've also been a lot more 'visual' in the past than is commonly appreciated. There's some old documentaries about the kop out there Youtube. It was a sea of flags every games. The whole tradition of scarves is another example.
The unique thing about British crowds is they live, breath and cheer every kick of the ball. Like cheering corners. A few years back we never scored from them but our fans always cheered for some reason. It seems fashionable to do this ultra-singing section thing, but I think other countries still look to us for good old fashioned songs.
Used to sing 'ooo it's a corner' on the mainstand.
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Tifo [ˈtiːfo], is the Italian word for the phenomenon of supporting a sport team. In some countries (but not in Italy) it's mostly used as a name for any choreography displayed by fans in the stands of an arena or stadium in connection with a sport event, mostly as part of an association football match
Thanks for that Copps - learn something every day.
And there was me thinking this thread was going to be about some Mansfield Centre-back with an Italian sounding name :blush:
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I was a big F1 fan as a kid and was always impressed with the "Tifosi" following Ferrari with a plethora of flags, banners etc.
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I'm a bit excited for Saturday! Can you remember when people said The Black Bank wouldn't work?
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I have access to a couple of A0 plotters if this needs some instruction posters printing out....
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Very kind Rob. I'll pass it on.
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The Borussia Dortmund ultras take it to the extreme on the yellow wall or sud tribune, depending on where you come from. Very impressive stuff!
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Yep, mental. Apparently a few thousand now regularly travel from England to Dortmund home games.
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It's f**king brilliant, going to Signal Iduna Park.
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Who can blame them, 15euro or whatever it is to stand on and be part of the largest terrace in Europe.
Some of the YouTube vids of this place are amazing.
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Yep, mental. Apparently a few thousand now regularly travel from England to Dortmund home games.
I truly do not get this.
I've been to matches overseas to see a match. As a neutral.
But you're telling me that people go to take part in SOMEBODY ELSE'S fan celebrations?
Football celebrations are a spontaneous eruption of relief at a moment of drama. It's not synchronised swimming.
The thought of going to take part in someone else's fun is utterly bizarre. It's like spending loads of time, money and effort to gate crash someone else's wedding cos they throw a better party than your own mates.
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Not so long ago we were a million miles away from experiencing anything like the displays we see on TV at the likes of Dortmund.
It'll be great to see on Saturday the stands full, flags waving and people getting involved in a sea of red n white, all desperate to urge the lads on.
Be proud folks and pray we get a game to stir us up to a frenzy.!
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BST, I think you will find there is a regular travelling contingent from uk, some STH who are regulars at Dortmund.
I myself spent 5 years living in Germany and have a certain affinity with Broussia monchengladbach. They were my local team. 10 Dm to get in (4 quid) and you could carry in your own crate of beer and drink on terrace while sitting on it. Mind you, this was mid nineties.
There are lots of uk residents, especially those who have served overseas that have similar affinities to clubs.
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Tifo is not the Italian word for supporting a football team! It is the Italian word for typhoid. Thus Italian fans are known as 'tifosi' because they 'carry a fever' as you would if you had typhoid.
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Then again, there are people who just want to be part of something that is deemed "special". I am surrounded at work by man ure fans, some of which have never been to old Trafford.
The same can be said about Barcelona I guess.
You see English kids trotting around uk wearing the shirts, not because they have been to camp nou, but because mum and dad spent a summer in benidorm if and got a cheapo snide shirt.
Horses for courses I suppose.
Dortmund has become a phenomena in European football and their ground has become famous for it, so it will attract football tourists.
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http://thecomeback.com/32flags/wp-content/uploads/sites/158/2015/03/eG1iaDB4MTI_o_lexceptionnel-tifo-du-borussia-dortmund.jpg
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Yep, mental. Apparently a few thousand now regularly travel from England to Dortmund home games.
But you're telling me that people go to take part in SOMEBODY ELSE'S fan celebrations?
It's only equally as strange as going to another sport and joining in the celebrations surely? I didn't know anything about curling, for example, until that time our girls won it at the olympics I started jumping up and down like an idiot (slight exaggeration)
Of course I've got an emotional attachment to Doncaster Rovers but I also appreciate the wider social situation in which football has come into being. Is it not a game of the people, on their day off from work, a form of relief, of entertainment?
For me it's a bit like a sense of camaraderie when the rest of the world is inherently individualistic. Then you sprinkle in that little bit of absurd spectacle that Dortmund fans have created and I would jump up and down with them any day of the week. Being in a foreign country makes it detached enough for me to do that.
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Copps
I assume you didn't fly out to the Winter Olympics just to take part in those celebrations.
We're obviously cut from different blocks, but if you enjoy it then good luck to you. It's just not what I look for from football.