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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: LongbridgeMGRover on June 27, 2016, 08:23:16 pm
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2-1down v our old Cod war adversaries.
I hope Iceland have boarded up their shops before the Brexitting morons smash them.
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Can we close the borders and stop the england team coming back?
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Time for the reality to kick in and woy to go. He's failed to turn yet another team with potential into anything
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Lets wait til full time eh?
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how many chances have we created??????
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We dont need to wait cant see us getting back into this
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We dont need to wait cant see us getting back into this
We will go through don't worry
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What go through customs nothing to declare
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Time to get rid of Hart, dandruff getting in his eyes
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What a shambles of a half that was. Roy will have to earn his corn with this half time team talk.
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The bloody likes of Iceland.... :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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We're miles too static' theres no movement at all
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2-1down v our old Cod war adversaries.
I hope Iceland have boarded up their shops before the Brexitting morons smash them.
Dick head :headbang:
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Shocking defence. Getting beat by a bunch of part timers. Don't deserve to go through, and if we do manage to scrape through, one of the big boys will give us a good pasting. Taxi for 11 please.
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Shocking defence. Getting beat by a bunch of part timers. Don't deserve to go through, and if we do manage to scrape through, one of the big boys will give us a good pasting. Taxi for 11 please.
We are bad today but Iceland are hardly part timers.
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England are poor tonight to say the least it Roy needs to change it and quick or we are going out
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Kane must hit some absolute worldy free kicks in training for anyone in the england set up to allow him anywhere near them in a real game.
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Get Duerden on.....
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Rooney is shocking tonight
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Rooney is shocking tonight
They all are
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What a shocking game. Embarrassing, frustrating to say the least. Just haven't got a clue what to do with the ball. too slow at going forward, can't get a decent cross in, for all the shots we've had, can't even get one on bloody target!. Absolute garbage !.
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Disgraceful. They can't even pass the ball to each other. Nothing to do with being good enough or not tonight. They've bottled it.
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I blame the board.
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Getting beat by a bunch of part timers.
There's not many part-timers playing for Iceland though are there?
Hannes Halldórsson (1) Bodø/Glimt
Ingvar Jónsson (13) Sandefjord
Ögmundur Kristinsson (12) Hammarby
Elmar Bjarnason (18) AGF
Haukur Heidar Hauksson (3) AIK
Hjörtur Hermannsson (4) Göteborg
Sverrir Ingason (5) Lokeren
Hordur Magnússon (19) Cesena
Birkir Sævarsson (2) Hammarby
Ragnar Sigurdsson (6) Krasnodar
Ari Skúlason (23) OB
Arnor Ingvi Traustason (21) Norrköping
Kári Árnason (14) Malmö
Birkir Bjarnason (8) Basel
Aron Gunnarsson (17) Cardiff
Emil Hallfredsson (20) Udinese
Gylfi Sigurdsson (10) Swansea
Rúnar Már Sigurjónsson (16) Sundsvall
Jón Dadi Bödvarsson (15) Kaiserslautern
Alfred Finnbogason (11) Augsburg
Eidur Gudjohnsen (22) Molde
Johann Gudmundsson (7) Charlton
Kolbeinn Sigthórsson (9) Nantes
I'm sure that perhaps there's one or two part-timers in there but not many!
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They must have all voted for Brexit 😊😄😄😄😄😄😅 eh? Eh? Eh? .................. Ok maybe not.
Too slow buildup
Poor passing
Abysmal defence
Too predictable with crosses
No imagination
I could go on and on and on
Why not bring on the lad from Man U for totally useless Kane?
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Al4475 theyre as good as part time
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England still has time to score the second goal, but I didn't expect Iceland to score in this match...especially after Rooney scored in the 4th minute
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If we get 1 more we'll get at another one after that at least!
However we don't look like getting the equalizer!
Best ring the number in the newspaper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAei6YFGlDQ
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Shameful.
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Garbage :thumbdown:
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I wouldn't fancy being on that 76 bus going down silver street tonight
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What a match would have been France - England...Sadly :(
France didn't played at good at Euro, in the first match if Romania didn't stopped atracking at 1-1, Romania would have won that match.
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Every man a hero!
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Spineless f**king w**kers.
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Worst performance I can ever recall in the 30 years watching England.
Shameful.
Yet again total abject failure.
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Over paid tossers, cant wait to see some real football. come on you reds!!!! :rtid:
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England lived up to my expectations. I thought we'd be found out by a good team. Instead we were out battled by a bad one.
F**k England.....Up the Rovers!!
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Lack of passion, a lack of ability, a lack of any ideas, but no lacking in shite
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Harry Kane totally over rated, should not be on the pitch ,never mind taking free kicks
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First half was ok, played at good pace and we created chances. Iceland took theirs well, but even at 1-2 if we had carried that energy into the second half we may have done better.
However the second half was abysmal. The longer it went on, the worse it got - players lacked movement, ideas, and couldn't even do the simple things - summed up by Kane over hitting a free kick/cross in the 86th minute when we were 1-2 down.
It's not embarrassing, it's not even about being against Iceland, we were just shite in the second half... I don't get why some of you are saying Iceland are a bad side, they are unbeaten in this tournament aren't they vs Austria, Hungary, Portugal and now England.
France, Germany, Italy all got better as their games went on.
England softened like a limp dick after a premature ejaculation.
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Well done Iceland. Fully deserved to beat England, who were an embarrassment from start to finish. No passion. No skill. No urgency. No pride. Iceland wanted it. Had the better chances too. Better organized. Better drilled. Faster. Stronger.
English football might be better in the long term for this result.
Iceland have been my second team since after their first game. They may well do the French as well.
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We can take positives from this.....
Like overcoming our penalties jinx.
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I still say we did OK first half but the second was not good enough.
The second half reminded me of a typical DRFC performance at the KM under Dickov..
Good on Iceland - just shows that a "lesser" team can over achieve if they work hard enough!
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If we had a government at the moment they should detain Roy at the border and revoke his right to live and work in the UK.
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If we had a government at the moment they should detain Roy at the border and revoke his right to live and work in the UK.
A bit harsh - he's coming back to retirement now..
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Hodgson resigns
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Thanks for coming roy
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Well we were in the hardest half of the draw....
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Just surprised it took him a whole 10 minutes after the game to resign!
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Wrote that statement quickly!
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You or me could have put that together Mush.
Nothing special.
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First half was ok, played at good pace and we created chances. Iceland took theirs well, but even at 1-2 if we had carried that energy into the second half we may have done better.
However the second half was abysmal. The longer it went on, the worse it got - players lacked movement, ideas, and couldn't even do the simple things - summed up by Kane over hitting a free kick/cross in the 86th minute when we were 1-2 down.
It's not embarrassing, it's not even about being against Iceland, we were just shite in the second half... I don't get why some of you are saying Iceland are a bad side, they are unbeaten in this tournament aren't they vs Austria, Hungary, Portugal and now England.
France, Germany, Italy all got better as their games went on.
England softened like a limp dick after a premature ejaculation.
Iceland aren't a bad side - they were dreadful! It's to England's eternal shame that they couldn't cope with a team that would struggle to win a League 1 game most weekends!
I know we are in a hurry to get out of Europe but I didn't expect the football team to take it so literally.
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At least we will be spared the photo opportunity of Nigel Farage, pint in hand, welcoming them back!
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How were Iceland dreadful?
Doesn't make England's exit better - Iceland have done a job over 4 games starting with the same 11 and are unbeaten, which is dreadful is it?
I'm sorry I don't get that argmuent.. Italy or Germany they may not be, but Iceland won tonight fair and square..
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What a shocking game. Embarrassing, frustrating to say the least. Just haven't got a clue what to do with the ball. too slow at going forward, can't get a decent cross in, for all the shots we've had, can't even get one on bloody target!. Absolute garbage !.
It was like watching Rovers last season!
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Anyway.
For all those who wanted us out of Europe...
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just checked my facts this Kári Árnason
will be 36 in October and is the same one that played for Rotherham in the 4th 3rd and 2nd division
he left "Rotherham" as in "Rotherham almost exactly a year ago"
f.c.s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A1ri_%C3%81rnason_(footballer,_born_1982)
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Hodgson resigns
resigns or re-signs
you don't pronounce the hyphen
can we have that in writing please -- so many people are going back on their word
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How were Iceland dreadful?
Doesn't make England's exit better - Iceland have done a job over 4 games starting with the same 11 and are unbeaten, which is dreadful is it?
I'm sorry I don't get that argmuent.. Italy or Germany they may not be, but Iceland won tonight fair and square..
No dispute with the result but doesn't disguise the fact that it was an appalling game between two dreadful teams. Iceland reminded me of Lincoln City under John Beck and it doesn't get worse than that. How they've got tp the last eight of a major tournament is akin to a miracle.
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Don't know why he didn't have rashford on from the start. He did more in the few minutes that he was on, than Vardy and Kane did all bloody game !. Overrated and over paid bunch of tossers !.
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Hodgson resigns
resigns or re-signs
you don't pronounce the hyphen
can we have that in writing please -- so many people are going back on their word
I'll be waiting round the corner. Can you bring the bag of brown,and the bag of tricks?
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How were Iceland dreadful?
Doesn't make England's exit better - Iceland have done a job over 4 games starting with the same 11 and are unbeaten, which is dreadful is it?
I'm sorry I don't get that argmuent.. Italy or Germany they may not be, but Iceland won tonight fair and square..
. How they've got tp the last eight of a major tournament is akin to a miracle.
Dont forget Greece won it !
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How were Iceland dreadful?
Doesn't make England's exit better - Iceland have done a job over 4 games starting with the same 11 and are unbeaten, which is dreadful is it?
I'm sorry I don't get that argmuent.. Italy or Germany they may not be, but Iceland won tonight fair and square..
. How they've got tp the last eight of a major tournament is akin to a miracle.
Dont forget Greece won it !
and Denmark did who didn't even qualify the breaking up of Yugoslavia got them re-instated
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We never learned a single thing from the group stage...Despite the arguments on here we were hopeless from the minute we kicked off against Russia...We've got to find a manager not scared of reputations who has a plan of how he wants to play and picks squads to that system...
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Wing Co
No, no NO!
No and f**king NO again!
It is not about the managers. We don't produce players with the intelligence to take on responsibility.
Ever!
In the past 50 years, we haven't ever produced a squad with more than a handful of players that an independent observer would envy.
We TELL ourselves that we produce world beaters. But they are not. They are mentally and technically limited grafters, who are exposed for what they are on a two-yearly basis.
With different managers. And the inevitable cry that "If only we had a better manager..."
Capello was one of the finest managers of his generation. He had one of the best win percentages of any England manager in history. But that couldn't take us further than humiliation against the first decent side we played. Because he was playing with a shit hand.
It is NOT the fault of the managers. (Even though this one was particularly inept.) No manager on earth could make England competitive, because the fault is with a system that produces mediocrity and calls it genius.
It will not change until people stop buying into that myth and demand a root and branch revolution in the structure of our game.
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I'm stunned that we can be that bad. For successive tournaments we've seen the players start off reasonably but then be seemingly overwhelmed with fear.
I don't know why this should be but all common sense and logic seems to be abandoned when determining the strategy to get through a tournament.
The thing is, there's genuine talent that's being wasted.
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Iceland's manager, tactically outsmarted him. He doubled up on the wing backs, gave each player a simple job, and they did it.
England from 1-11, nobody performed. This group of under achievers, will be being fawned over in a few months time. People thinking they are not as good as them. I tell you something if you are not as good as this shower, you must be bad.
Iceland, played a men's game, we had 'Pretend-to be's, in our side. Against any side, you have to compete first of all, then you can show you're skills. I have never seen a team cower under the pressure like that, we have lost games before, but i think that's the worst i have ever seen!.
Iceland, were never threatened, they got their goals, and did what was needed to win. Two simple goals, not dazzling skill undid us. If you were playing sunday league football, or any level, you wouldn't be happy with those goals.
We have a major problem in this country, that everything we do, we think is the best, but reality is very sobering!.
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I was fortunate to see us win in '66 and look like we might retain the WC 4 years later
Since then we have merely flirted with becoming of the big boys again ! That's a couple of times of trying to be on a par with Germany and Italy who when they have "average" Teams still give their fans a show and something to give them pride and promise going forward
I resign myself to the fact that I will never see us win any trophy of significance in my lifetime - and indeed I am a Club before Country man more and more as the years roll by.
P.S. I wonder what that kid on the top of the Clay Lane single decker feels this morning - oh and wait for the first Iceland shop to be firebombed somewhere ! Netto will probably beat England next with an 11 selected from their 15 stores nationwide
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The MOTD analysis was pretty good, along the same lines as what BST said above. The England side looked like kids playing with their ipods plugged in. It wasn't a "team", there was little engagement between them, over paid office workers more engaged with Facebook than the job in hand.
Whilst we haven't been as bad as that, it's not disimilar to where Rovers have been lacking over the last few seasons. We need a spine of mesters in the side, England and Rovers.
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The England team is a symptom of a wider malaise in the football industry here;
We get the England football team we deserve | David Conn | Opinion | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/28/england-football-team-we-deserve)
Because we never look to sort out the structure in any meaningful way, we will continue to fail, and continue to be surprised when we do.
Too many snouts in the trough, too many prepared to be deluded at a false promise, and not enough grey matter to even see it.
Nutshell!
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David Conn, as ever, hits the nail on the head.
On which theme, I've posted this link before, buts it's as apt as ever given the events of the past week on the pitch and in the polling booth.
https://brendano7.com/2010/06/07/england’s-dreaming-again/
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50 years of hurt
Is it just part of the process in building a winning squad for Russia in 2 years?
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Every month, all through the season, the squad should have a training day, or couple of days. The problems start way down the system, not being learned to play under pressure.
Foreign sides, pass to players with opposition close to them, because they trust each other on the ball.
Control of a ball is a given, they are already working out the next move, our players are still thinking 'Can i control this'. That is why we cannot play good football at high speed.
In the premier league, if they lose it, they get the ball back very quickly. But in international football, you lose the ball, and it very rarely comes straight back.
The coaching system needs to be learned properly, then they can learn the players how to play. Money needs to be restricted until players achieve something.
They are throwing money at young kids, many who have never seen a lot of money. And they expect them to retain ambition to do well, unfortunately many think they have already made it, before the international stage.