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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: ravenrover on February 25, 2017, 07:50:46 pm
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Just a thought but would Blair be a suitable replacement for Jordan? Tall enough to win headers, fast enough, can tackle, can beat a player, can pass.
Middleton did OK today but not mobile enough.
I also think we are acommodating Grant by playing him on the right, move Copps to the right let Grant play left and put Rowe on the tip behind the 2 strikers just a thought and open to discussion
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Thought Grant looked better on left, but was poor on right today. Not sure Middleton was the issue today. We just missed too many good chances in front of goals (but we created them which is a real possitive). Baudry and Butler settled at the back would be a massive improvement. Butler looks half the player when Baudry not there and our recent form coincided with their injuries. :scarf:
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Would completely waste him.
Why are people just thinking of random players to shove into a fairly specialist role when they've never ever played in that position?
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No chance, why would we play a fast winger who isn't the most technically gifted as a holding midfielder? Still think Mason would be good there but Evina isn't good enough for left back so not an easy one.
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Would completely waste him.
Why are people just thinking of random players to shove into a fairly specialist role when they've never ever played in that position?
Could you say that applies to Middleton? Did Fergie pick him as a specialist in that position? Have we got a specialist, unless you count Keegan, for that position.?
We are stuck with what we have, who would you suggest?
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It's the position Middleton himself believes he is.
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Well I thought Middleton did ok today.
We wouldn't be having this discussion if May, Williams or Rowe had scored when they had great chances. At 3-1 we would probably had gone on to win 4-1
The chances are being created so I am not concerned too much.
I still think someone is going to get a hammering from us.
We just need one game where it all goes right and the confidence will flow again.
We will finish the season very strongly I am sure.
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Would completely waste him.
Why are people just thinking of random players to shove into a fairly specialist role when they've never ever played in that position?
Could you say that applies to Middleton? Did Fergie pick him as a specialist in that position? Have we got a specialist, unless you count Keegan, for that position.?
We are stuck with what we have, who would you suggest?
Thing is, Middleton is actually a central midfielder, whereas the players being suggested - McSheffrey, Blair - have never in their lives played the type of role people suddenly seem to think they'd be able to.
I'd put Mason there and bring Garrett back or stick Alcock - who, yes, can play left back and has done before - in his place.
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Middleton is better in a more forward role in my opinion.
I still can't see why Keegan can't get a shot at filling the Houghton role as he is a specialist there.
A round peg in the round hole.
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Middleton is better in a more forward role in my opinion.
I still can't see why Keegan can't get a shot at filling the Houghton role as he is a specialist there.
A round peg in the round hole.
Agreed, but Middleton did ok I thought.
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So do I Campsall but people are proposing other players in that position.
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I'd stick with Middleton for now but he needs help around him. Sometimes we become over reliant on Copps doing all the creating. It's no good having cameo bursts from Grant and Rowe. They need to take their share of work rather than leave it to the old stager!
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Tommy Rowe was excellent today and was our most creative player.
Only blemish was that miss, when he should have scored.
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Would definitely put Mason back in midfield, with Garrett/Rowe/Evina taking over at left back, with Connor Grant back on the wide left.
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Would definitely put Mason back in midfield, with Garrett/Rowe/Evina taking over at left back, with Connor Grant back on the wide left.
I shiver at the thought of Evina starting - can we recall Garrett?
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From the limited time I have seen Garrett he is no better than Evina or ATS.
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Doncaster Rovers: Luke McCullough ‘way ahead of schedule’ and could return this season
In tonights DFP and is already running and in warm ups, possible earlier problem solved than just filling a gap game by game.
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Great news, but I hope we do not rush him back too soon for his, and our sake.
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Baudry? And bring Wright back into defence maybe?
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Wright is out for 3-4 weeks injured
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That scuppers that then! Lol!
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Baudry is a centre back and needs to stay there. To move him into midfield would in my opinion be madness.
With Houghton out the only candidates for the holding midfield role are Keegan, Middleton or Mason.
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You mean we shouldn't consider randomly shoving a winger there for no apparent reason?
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Baudry is a centre back and needs to stay there. To move him into midfield would in my opinion be madness.
With Houghton out the only candidates for the holding midfield role are Keegan, Middleton or Mason.
Mason is also a defender, a centre half or right back by trade and we're playing him at left back, so you want him in centre mid but not Baudry?
Having seen how Middleton did on Saturday, I'd be putting Keegan in tomorrow night. Or changing the set-up completely and playing one up front, 5 in midfield.
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Why are we blaming Middleton for Saturday?
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If our strikers had taken their chances we probably wouldn't even be mentioning it.
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If our strikers had taken their chances we probably wouldn't even be mentioning it.
Correct
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You mean we shouldn't consider randomly shoving a winger there for no apparent reason?
If that one is aimed at me it missed by a mile! I gave my reasons, what alternative did you come up with?
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GRANT
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GRANT
Are you serious?
The one and only thing Grant isn't good at is tackling so the holding role is totally NOT FOR HIM.
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GRANT
Are you serious?
The one and only thing Grant isn't good at is tackling so the holding role is totally NOT FOR HIM.
Houghton wasn't the best tackler in the world
It's about keeping the play flowing and finding a player in space
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Leave Middleton there for a few matches,and see how he progresses.Houghton was poor at Accrington and got better after a few games.
The Plymouth fans thought nothing to Houghton,saying he was weak and easily knocked off the ball,so has got better with experience to our benefit.
It makes me wonder if the problem with Middleton and the knockers is because he has come though the ranks at the Rovers.
I think he can be a great asset to this club,but he will not be watching other clubs players getting experience at his expense.
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GRANT
Are you serious?
The one and only thing Grant isn't good at is tackling so the holding role is totally NOT FOR HIM.
Houghton wasn't the best tackler in the world
It's about keeping the play flowing and finding a player in space
Houghton is excellent at tackling and breaking up the play, I don't know how you can say otherwise.
We will miss him.
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Just off to Cambridge. Come on the ROVERS
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Just off to Cambridge. Come on the ROVERS
Don't forget to bring the three points back.👍
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Leave Middleton there for a few matches,and see how he progresses.Houghton was poor at Accrington and got better after a few games.
The Plymouth fans thought nothing to Houghton,saying he was weak and easily knocked off the ball,so has got better with experience to our benefit.
It makes me wonder if the problem with Middleton and the knockers is because he has come though the ranks at the Rovers.
I think he can be a great asset to this club,but he will not be watching other clubs players getting experience at his expense.
I'd give Middleton a few more games. If it still isn't working I'd move Mason there or bring Keegan in.
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So lets try a ball playing centre half in Houghtons position if the team is set up as per Liam Holden. Specialist in that position, discuss!
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INteresting, will it be a 5 at back or baudry holding?
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INteresting, will it be a 5 at back or baudry holding?
Probably change formations depending on how the game is going?? Blair, Alcock, Baudry at least can change positions..
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Now Mason starting as holding midfield, has played in midfield before but still hardly a specialist. Hope he does well and the boys come back with 3 points
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You mean we shouldn't consider randomly shoving a winger there for no apparent reason?
If that one is aimed at me it missed by a mile! I gave my reasons, what alternative did you come up with?
It's aimed at anyone that genuinely believes that Blair or McSheffrey could or should ever actually play there.