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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: roversdude on May 14, 2017, 05:47:35 pm
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Sad to see someone at end of their career going through the motions like he is
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He's been terrible. Tottenham too quick and strong for him.
Scored though!!
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Think Mourinho has seen through him, hopefully Southgate has too
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Think Mourinho has seen through him, hopefully Southgate has too
yeh taking the mickey
http://www.mickeyrooney.com/
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Today he is a waste of space granny shagging out of shape fcuk head.
About 3 terms back during the pre season there was two photos in the papers ,one of Rooney on the beach shirtless and one of CR at Real Madrid on a different beach shirtless.
The difference in the two physical state of the two body's was unreal.
Basically Rooney looked like a overweight out of shape beach bum,while CR looked like the professional footballer that he is.
Twice Rooney held MUFC to transfer speculation in last 4 season a to make a bigger pay packet for himself ,utd should have fcuked him off.
When he lost his touch or class upfront he tried to set his stall out as a midfield player in a type of Paul scholes role ,and Moyes and that Dutch idiot fell for it and did not have strength to fcuk him off.
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Have to agree with the above comments, I thought he was absolutely bloody useless today.
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He has been shite for last 3 seasons maybe more.
I could see it.yoj could see it even Kermit the frog and miss piggy could see that Rooney has been shite for last few seasons.
But according to them idiots on match of the day or in other media no fcuker would say what we all could see
Iam sure all the tv football presenters turned a blind eye to the fall in Rooneys standards on the pitch when all the fans at man utd were wanting him out.
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More words of wisdom
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Rumours going round he lost £500,000 in on night at the blackjack and roulette tables
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Rumours going round he lost £500,000 in on night at the blackjack and roulette tables
Les than two weeks wages, my heart bleeds for him
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I think that's hardly news worthy. Multi-millionaire loses, who is guaranteed to earn millions more, loses half a million during a night out.
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He has been shite for last 3 seasons maybe more.
I could see it.yoj could see it even Kermit the frog and miss piggy could see that Rooney has been shite for last few seasons.
But according to them idiots on match of the day or in other media no fcuker would say what we all could see
Iam sure all the tv football presenters turned a blind eye to the fall in Rooneys standards on the pitch when all the fans at man utd were wanting him out.
England "fell for it" after the Cup Final last year when Palace backed off him and let him have the ball for as long as he wanted. He could pick a pass out at will and suddenly - hey - this bloke can play this role
As we unanimously seeem to be saying on here - NO - he cant. He has one attribute that marks him as a Man Utd Midfielder and that is the ability to (lets be generous) "break up play"
I did see some of the Ajax performance v Lyon in the first leg and by god they looked very good and very energetic and I for one hope they win the Final (Chair emoji !!!)
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Leave the lad alone, he has done good and spends his money as he wants....George Best on booze. Gazza on booze. They were not looked after and if he gambles then perhaps someone should have looked after him. I am no lover of his club or him but I suppose it is just his turn for all this rubbish, if he wants to stay at United then give him some credit as China is full of Casinos and his habit would certainly get worse. Should he or Will he return to Everton for his swansong, I think it would be a mistake, let him play out his time and retire gracefully. Well that is my bit anyway
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THing to remember on him is he in effect pushed himself very early on. Not many have a career at the top level for over 13-14 years and he has reached that point. He hit fame at 17 and has played a huge amount of football hence he'll clearly decline a bit quicker.
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.... let him play out his time and retire gracefully.
I think he has played out his time - and hopefully he will retire gracefully taking his "Brand" with him
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He had been playing shit for last 4 or 3 seasons week in week out.
It was not just one poor performance it was just about all the games had his form dipped by loads.but all the tv pundits would not say he was playing shit as they side stepped this fact .
When the Dutchman was manager and when JM first took over there was leaks leaking out about whatever was so called wrong within the man utd squad and training camp ,in an attempt to de rail the manager. > Rooney and his agent,
Stupid fcuker lost shit loads of money in a Manchester casino 1/2 million £££ ??? > fact that he was sat on his own while doing so shows his state of mind and any club would do well to steer well clear of him.
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If my mental arithmetic is right, he's blown in 2 hours what is the equivalent to 20 years wages for some poor sod grafting away on 25 grand a year. Dunt bear thinking about does it.
Still, it's his dough!!
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It's his money and I have no issues how he spends it .his lass Colleen might chew his ears off but that's upto her.
How can it be allowed that 1//2 million pounds can be spent Iam a Manchester casino in only 2hours ???
Thought there was things as beating limits set in place ,I mean you would struggle to piss that much away in vegas in that short time .
My guess Rooney had lost money but not that much.
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I can tell you that despair and depression run side by side and one of the tell tale signs are that people will go out and spend on their own, the fact that he was alone rings true. In times of my depression in the past present and no doubt future I will spend what bit I have on absolutely anything absolutely anything it is just the way it is and those poor souls who commit suicide over money matters? well spend it or end it. I got the tee shirt. Do not mock it. It is not a good feeling. IN his case, his ability and fame have caused his problems.
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It's his money and I have no issues how he spends it .his lass Colleen might chew his ears off but that's upto her.
How can it be allowed that 1//2 million pounds can be spent Iam a Manchester casino in only 2hours ???
Thought there was things as beating limits set in place ,I mean you would struggle to piss that much away in vegas in that short time .
My guess Rooney had lost money but not that much.
NOF - You probably right but it would not sell papers if he had only losta few bob and nobody would have anything to write about and that includes us on here.
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lets not forget rooney holds the goalscoring record for england and man unt hes had a great career and made a few bob in the progress.i think it was obvious from the start of the season that marinho didnt fancy him as a main striker anymore,but dont forget ibromovitch is older than rooney but still scored the goals.As for losing 500 grand a)its his money.b)his earnings as been pointed out cover that c)what right as a casino got to inform the media of someone losses.And lets remember that the paper that carried the story was the SUN didnt they run a story that the Duke of Edinborough died two weeks ago,probably rooneys losses was no were near what they printed.
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Now...That is sensible....Well Done Acko
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It allways seemed odd to me on how anyone is allowed to gamble 1/2 million quid away in 2hours in a Manchester casino .
The paper claims that he was on his own while doing so which is a far more disturbing thing if true ,as now I second guess what the or any paper prints on this story.
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So absolute rubbish being spouted on here as usual. Comparing Ronald and Rooney's bodies is the most laughable. They clearly have very different genetics and body shapes. I would hazard a guess that Rooney could spend every hour in the gym and still never look like Ronaldo! Look at tony bellew for example and compare him to the physique of David haye. It's completely different.
Surprised at the hostility towards him by England fans really. He's had a great career, won every domestic and European trophy possible, become England's all time leading goal scorer, Utd's top goal scorer and played at the top from being 16 years of age. Yes, he's possibly not reached the heights we thought he would after Euro 2004 (he was unplayable in that tournament). Had he stayed fit then and not got injured in the quarter final I'm convinced England would have won that tournament
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As they say in US Court Rooms your last sentence "Objection : Calls for speculation"
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So absolute rubbish being spouted on here as usual. Comparing Ronald and Rooney's bodies is the most laughable. They clearly have very different genetics and body shapes. I would hazard a guess that Rooney could spend every hour in the gym and still never look like Ronaldo! Look at tony bellew for example and compare him to the physique of David haye. It's completely different.
Surprised at the hostility towards him by England fans really. He's had a great career, won every domestic and European trophy possible, become England's all time leading goal scorer, Utd's top goal scorer and played at the top from being 16 years of age. Yes, he's possibly not reached the heights we thought he would after Euro 2004 (he was unplayable in that tournament). Had he stayed fit then and not got injured in the quarter final I'm convinced England would have won that tournament
The problem for me with him is his total lack of connection with the fans on the terrace. In the world cup in South Africa, after the England team played like a Sunday league team who's been on the piss the night before, and he had the gall to bitch about england fans booing them.
It's f**k all for him to fly to South Africa in his pampered bubble, but some of those blokes will have been saving for years to go to watch England in the world cup.
"Nice to hear your own fans booing you"
More like it's nice to pay thousands of pounds to watch the national team play like that.
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Didn't it also come out that some of the players had booked holidays before our final game was played there as well.
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So absolute rubbish being spouted on here as usual. Comparing Ronald and Rooney's bodies is the most laughable. They clearly have very different genetics and body shapes. I would hazard a guess that Rooney could spend every hour in the gym and still never look like Ronaldo! Look at tony bellew for example and compare him to the physique of David haye. It's completely different.
Surprised at the hostility towards him by England fans really. He's had a great career, won every domestic and European trophy possible, become England's all time leading goal scorer, Utd's top goal scorer and played at the top from being 16 years of age. Yes, he's possibly not reached the heights we thought he would after Euro 2004 (he was unplayable in that tournament). Had he stayed fit then and not got injured in the quarter final I'm convinced England would have won that tournament
The point with the body's of Rooney and CR during the non season was that Rooney had let his slip so bad that he looked out of shape well at the exact same time CR still looked match fit > which then brings you to the mind set difference between the two players about their job.
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For me it's like this, I don't like Manchester United.
But look at a few of their greats and can only admire them.
Look at the dedication, commitment and professionalism of the likes of Paul Scholes compared to Rooney.
Or again that annoying C. Ronaldo, you don't see them crawling out of pubs pissed up smoking.
Yeah they are human, they can do what they want. But at the same time their are professional sportsmen. They are at the very top of their game earning millions. They are role models to kids all over the world.
Just think if player such as Rooney, Wilshere, Ravel Morrison, Berhino had the professionalism of Ronaldo the National team would do better
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Years ago players were on a certain wage for the playing season. Their wages dropped in the summer to maybe 50% so they got jobs during the summer. A lot came back carrying extra weight.
These days contracts are for 52 weeks a year, players have diet sheets etc. and are expected to report back reasonably fit.
Rooney didn't do himself any favours being pictured smoking and eating burgers on holiday.
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I can tell you that despair and depression run side by side and one of the tell tale signs are that people will go out and spend on their own, the fact that he was alone rings true. In times of my depression in the past present and no doubt future I will spend what bit I have on absolutely anything absolutely anything it is just the way it is and those poor souls who commit suicide over money matters? well spend it or end it. I got the tee shirt. Do not mock it. It is not a good feeling. IN his case, his ability and fame have caused his problems.
fair comment - up to the point where you assume that him spending money in this way is a problem - that may not be the case; if i went to a casino and lost what i consider to be an amount of entirely "spare" cash, whether that's a tenner, fifty quid, or half a million - that's not a necessarily a problem, whether i choose to do so by myself or as part of a crowd...
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I'm a massive boxing fan and Rooney's issue over the last few seasons (one of them anyway) is that they've taken too much weight off him and he's "dead at the weight" as they say in boxing. Drained him completely.
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I can tell you that despair and depression run side by side and one of the tell tale signs are that people will go out and spend on their own, the fact that he was alone rings true. In times of my depression in the past present and no doubt future I will spend what bit I have on absolutely anything absolutely anything it is just the way it is and those poor souls who commit suicide over money matters? well spend it or end it. I got the tee shirt. Do not mock it. It is not a good feeling. IN his case, his ability and fame have caused his problems.
fair comment - up to the point where you assume that him spending money in this way is a problem - that may not be the case; if i went to a casino and lost what i consider to be an amount of entirely "spare" cash, whether that's a tenner, fifty quid, or half a million - that's not a necessarily a problem, whether i choose to do so by myself or as part of a crowd...
Your point is also accepted
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I'm a massive boxing fan and Rooney's issue over the last few seasons (one of them anyway) is that they've taken too much weight off him and he's "dead at the weight" as they say in boxing. Drained him completely.
spot on - should have left him to his kebab and burger diet
united fans would have had to change their song from "...he'd seen the white pele" to "...he'd seen the white akinfenwe" though
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Agreed,he looks drained,both physically and mentally. They seemed to have taken his natural spark by playing in a regimented manner
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When Ryan giggs lost himself legs he called it a day straight away
Same can be said for likes of gray neville and Paul scholes.
John terry is stepping down at Chelsea in his words ' he did not want to keep any younger Chelsea players held back due to him having a squad place'
Ronney had been shit fo last 4 seasons and got worse and worse with each season.he should have fcuked off away from OT 3 seasons back ,but his £300,000 a week wage slip says different .
Yes he was the dogs b*llocks at football ,but today my aunt has more b*llocks on the football pitch than Rooney.
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those having a go at rooney should also remember the amount of money he as raised and donated to charity,saying he would like to stay at Man Unt is no crime hes contracted till 2018.he also knows his playing career is now coming to an end.It would be easy for him to accept offers from USA or China like other players whose careers were going down hill like Gerrard,Lampard,Tevez even the great Pirlo.Dont judge a man that would like to finish his career at a club that he gave so much for,there is an obvious touch of jelousy regarding the money he and other spotsman earn the likes of Murray,Mcilroy and others,but they worked hard at achieving their ambitions.When i do the lottery its about a dream about enjoying the lifestyle of the rich and famous and i suggest you are all the same.
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I don't mind what amount of money he is getting paid when he was performing out on the pitch FairPlay to him or whoever.
But as soon as he started to ask to be moved into midfield when he knew his days up front was over that's when he started going downhill on the pitch.
Like I said it's believed that he was one of the United players who was leaking info to a certian newspaper which in turn was helping bring his manager down.
He might raise shit loads for charity but that's upto him.
Do you think that he would cut his wage demands in half so another English club might take a punt on him > I doubt it .
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I take what you say facebook,but would you take a pay cut if youve still got a year left on your contract debatable.Certain Rovers players have been placed on transfer list if the truth is known non will demand a fee but they are still on contract and they wont leave if offered less money elsewhere why should they,the Rovers would just like them off the wage bill to enable new signings to take their place
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I don't even think he has "lost his legs", I think he has grown disillusioned with his marginalisation at Man Utd and needs a fresh scenery. If he goes to America or China, or back to Everton, I think we'd see a renewed purpose in Rooney at least for a short while.
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tend to agree with you alias,maybe needs a fresh challenge but for his own football stalling career it must be in this country then its down to what clubs are prepared to pay him,although Man Unt have said because of his United career they wont ask for a fee.As a cotracted player they could do.
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He plays shit for England aswell from what I see.
Think you are both correct about him taken on a new challenge ,but he will have to take a pay cut for a normall club to be able to take him on.
But if the leaking of things to the press is true ,he should be hung drawn and quartered when everything is taken into account.
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Regardless of what people say, Rooney has achieved a awful lot more than most footballers have and will.
Hes won pretty much every trophy going apart from international tournaments, englands all time top goalscorer.
Fair enough,England have failed to progress as expected in tournaments but you can't pin that on Wayne Rooney alone.
He is a legend,both for club and country. He earnt that tag when he broke goalscoring records for Man Utd and England.
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If Rooney was Italian he would be seen as a hero. We treat our older players like shit in this country. No respect at all.
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I respect likes of Gary Neville, Paul scholes, Steven Gerrard ,glen hoodle ,Alan shearer ,Allen Hansen,Kenny daglish and many more
but no matter how hard I try I just can't put Rooney up in same bracket ,I would like to be proved wrong but every nerve in my body says different .
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I respect likes of Gary Neville, Paul scholes, Steven Gerrard ,glen hoodle ,Alan shearer ,Allen Hansen,Kenny daglish and many more
but no matter how hard I try I just can't put Rooney up in same bracket ,I would like to be proved wrong but every nerve in my body says different .
England and Man U's record scorer. A lot of players have had had a go at both records.
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I'll give him the same respect as a person that he gives match officials.
A good career but not my type of person.
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So absolute rubbish being spouted on here as usual. Comparing Ronald and Rooney's bodies is the most laughable. They clearly have very different genetics and body shapes. I would hazard a guess that Rooney could spend every hour in the gym and still never look like Ronaldo! Look at tony bellew for example and compare him to the physique of David haye. It's completely different.
Surprised at the hostility towards him by England fans really. He's had a great career, won every domestic and European trophy possible, become England's all time leading goal scorer, Utd's top goal scorer and played at the top from being 16 years of age. Yes, he's possibly not reached the heights we thought he would after Euro 2004 (he was unplayable in that tournament). Had he stayed fit then and not got injured in the quarter final I'm convinced England would have won that tournament
Well said.
God help him if he was a Rovers player.
I dread to think how much stick he would have got from some of our supporters.
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I'll give him the same respect as a person that he gives match officials.
A good career but not my type of person.
What, a council estate lad?
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It's his money he earned it. As a player he has had a fine career but i can't help thinking with a different mindset he could have done even better.
Comparing him to Ronaldo is like comparing a greyhound with a bulldog both fine animals but born different shapes.
He is paying for his lack of games how can you expect him to look good against players who are mentally and physically finely tuned through playing every week?.
It's a very tough standard especially just to be thrown back in after months not getting a game. He has lost some pace but the main thing he has lost is his confidence. The start of his downturn was way back when he lost Ferguson as his manager he kept him on his toes. Then when they decided he was a midfielder that seemed to totally destroy his forward thinking natural instincts.
He is at his best when he is the number one. When united totally relied on him for a season for goals he produced more goals than he had managed before or since. Now he has been shown that almost everybody has given up on him as a top player. His lack of dedication is catching up with him but also lack of sharpness and confidence.
Ibrahimovic is a very good player but Rooney has always been the better of the two at his best. He can take a player on better and can pass a ball better his instinctive play is better, his touch but the big lad is the better finisher and physically stronger but Rooney's all round game is much better. The problem is Ibrahimovic like Ronaldo is fanatical about being the best he can be Rooney got sidetracked a long time ago from that. Ferguson told him years ago that he had to work harder than the other lads because of his tendency to put weight on if he didn't.
At the minute to me he looks fine weight wise it looks as though he has worked really hard to get into shape but can't get going again due to not playing enough.
He's thirty one years old it's too late to start converting him into something he isn't. Even losing a bit of pace he is still quick enough to beat a defender he just needs faith shown in him and he will score goals again-he isn't finished yet if united let him go they are mad.
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Rooney is everything that is wrong with the England set up. Picked on reputation and bottleless managers who dared not to lick him. 115 caps he's not fit to wear the same boots as the likes of charlton who deserved all his caps. Never performed in a major tournament. In his day absolutely quality. If he had been Italian or Spanish he would have been dropped when he lost form. Look at ronaldhino (maybe not spelt right)) he was brilliant in his day won 98 caps I think. No sympathy vote from Brazilians to give him 100 he was dropped when not good enough.
I don't know who will want him in the prem
Maybe DF can offer him a pay as you play contract to warm our bench
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If Rooney was Italian he would be seen as a hero. We treat our older players like shit in this country. No respect at all.
Except the Italians have actually achieved something in the last 50 years.
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I worry about England with or without Rooney are strikers are very thin on the ground,Sturridge doesnt get game time and his manager thinks his work rate is poor,Defoe good goalscorer but age against him,Rashford still learning but in truth its only his pace that sets him aside from others,Kane is probably the best England have,add walcott to the list and thats another that cant get into his team.Where do England go from here anybody got any idear.
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Rooney is everything that is wrong with the England set up. Picked on reputation and bottleless managers who dared not to lick him. 115 caps he's not fit to wear the same boots as the likes of charlton who deserved all his caps. Never performed in a major tournament. In his day absolutely quality. If he had been Italian or Spanish he would have been dropped when he lost form. Look at ronaldhino (maybe not spelt right)) he was brilliant in his day won 98 caps I think. No sympathy vote from Brazilians to give him 100 he was dropped when not good enough.
I don't know who will want him in the prem
Maybe DF can offer him a pay as you play contract to warm our bench
Tremendous post - straight to the point and accurate all round
Only last bit could be improved. Instead of DF looking to make him an offer it should be DT (Doncaster Town Cricket Club) that should make him an offer
Then he could be the only Player who could open the Batting and Roll the wicket at the same time !
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If Rooney was Italian he would be seen as a hero. We treat our older players like shit in this country. No respect at all.
Except the Italians have actually achieved something in the last 50 years.
Rooney has won loads of trophies in his career, broke impressive records for club and country too. It isn't the sole responsibility of Rooney to win us the World Cup, what about the various managers and other players in the "golden generation"? The media hasn't exactly helped the cause either.
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I'll give him the same respect as a person that he gives match officials.
A good career but not my type of person.
What, a council estate lad?
No a mardy, petulant mouthy prat who has got away with murder re officials over the years.
I came from St. Catherine's Ave. Balby Gaz so no pretensions there.
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No a mardy, petulant mouthy prat
to be entirely fair, as a scouser, he could be whispering sweet nothings in your ear, or reciting the most romantic poems of 19th century literature whilst swaddled in kitten fur, suffused in golden sunlight and under a shower of rose petals - and it'd still sound like he was offering you outside for a fight and was about to arse rape your children and burn your house down...
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You don't need to be a lip reading expert to see what he has been saying to officials for years and getting away with it. Then there are the bad, nasty tackles. The kick on the guy in the international that our spineless FA got reduced by a game. The time he veered about six feet to accidentally collide with that Wigan player.
If he had played for the Wimbledon of old or even Stoke he would have had far more red cards.
Brian Clough of old would have sorted him out and made him an even better player in my opinion.
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Did he once get sent off after 8 seconds ? For a second bookable offence !
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Didn't we have a sub away at Bradford who didn't last long ???