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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: German Rover on June 04, 2017, 08:28:14 pm
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Recentit this forum has gone right down the toilet. You've got someone suggesting blowing up mosques. You've got some dinosaur from the seventies calling every woman going a slag. It's the 21st century grow up for f**ks sake!
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It's been going down hill for years. Hardly worth looking at really but I still do!
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I dont disagree but that's the thing with footie forums. The thing we all have in common is our support of Rovers. In many cases that's all we have in common. So come the off season when there is litle Rovers stuff to discuss our differences really come to the fore.
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Recentit this forum has gone right down the toilet. You've got someone suggesting blowing up mosques. You've got some dinosaur from the seventies calling every woman going a slag. It's the 21st century grow up for f**ks sake!
Totally agree and people quoting the f word but missing the odd letter doesn't help does it.
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Hahaha, you get proper rattled by swear words.
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Hahaha, you get proper rattled by swear words.
No not really, as said before I've done enough in my time but I believe that there's a time and place for everything, just remember our younger fans view this forum. As you will see English language is not not my strongest subject but I don't need to use foul language to express my views like some of the bottom feeders. I've read more on here than I heard during my time at sea.
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Got to agree, today I've about reached my breaking point with this place. Sometimes there's some great discussion, and we've all seen people come together when bad things happen to our members but more and more lately the negativity and 'old school' views that have no place in this century are really putting me off even logging on to the site.
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Hahaha, you get proper rattled by swear words.
No not really, as said before I've done enough in my time but I believe that there's a time and place for everything, just remember our younger fans view this forum. As you will see English language is not not my strongest subject but I don't need to use foul language to express my views like some of the bottom feeders. I've read more on here than I heard during my time at sea.
I'd say advocating the blowing up of mosques was worse than the odd bit of strong language, but horses for courses!
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Maybe if people kept to football matters and steered clear of politics and religion we might get along better.
Mind you there have been some right fall outs about differing views on players.
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Surely this thread would have been better placed in another forum link i.e. Off Topic because it is not football related.
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I agree
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Ok I said something I should not have on a football forum maybe thinking out loud and I am disgusted in our fellow country men and women and children getting killed by these vile animals I have had enough as a lot of people are maybe it is a bit extreme but that is what they are extreamists. Of I have upset anyone I apologise I am not racist or anything like it just a person that has had enough
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Dave, you and I know each other well and are similar on many views, it is to be expected that when our own are being murdered and butchered that we go shooting our minds off, and why not. There is no need to offer apologies, I will never apologize for saying what I believe to be right at the time. We have all had enough and pacifists will roll over easy. I hear that Mrs May has said "Enough is Enough" Again I say also that this thread is not football related and should not be on this link as it has no input into football. German Rover and Oslo have crossed swords on the subject and GR has brought here, I agree he or she should have the right to create a discussion but it should in my opinion be in the right place.
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Not racist but mention blowing up a mosque?
Nowt like a bit of generalisation. They are not all the same you know...
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There's plenty of reasons to offer apologies for quite frankly what are grossly offensive and illegal statements. As for where it should be on the forum the fact you have greater issue with that then your mate saying mosques should be attacked says more about you than it does about me.
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Who are "our own" that are being murdered, Bally? White folk? English people? Your implication is that the victims, who by the way in these attacks have been people of all races, creeds and nationalities, are 'our own' and the attackers, implied to be all Muslims by the generalisation of your mate Vicar, are the ones we must oppose. Really, when all is said and done the victims are all people, just like us. Their background, skin colour etc. is not relevant whatsoever.
Also, Theresa May has indeed said enough is enough...well I agree, but who was the Home Secretary overseeing cuts to the police force since 2010? That would be Mrs. May, funnily enough.
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And, of course, that lovely Mrs May is refusing to publish the report ordered by her predeccessor, into the funding of terrorist organisations. Funny that don't you think? Heaven forbid she is playing politics with the lives of her people.....
As for retribution, well, the statement shows the shallowness of the thinking. Think on this for a mo Vicar: I beat up your best mate Vicar. You therefore beat me up. My mates set on you and you end up in hospital. You're hopping mad so a bunch of your mates ambush several of my mates who did you over. Some of them get damaged pretty bad. Guess what happens next Vicar.....
I'm getting old. I don't care so much who I upset these days. People who either can't or won't think, who wilfully ignore evidence, shouldn't be allowed an opinion or a vote. Democracy always was the triumph of the lowest common denominator. Even the ancient Greeks understood that. Now we are seeing it very much alive and kicking in circumstances that are waay more dangerous.
BobG
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We all have opinions some are said in the heat of the moment
Opinions are what makes us different and healthy debate is good - there is no easy answer but we have been too soft on terrorists and people spouting extremist views (at both ends of the spectrum) - the one armed cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri should have been rounded up as soon as he started inciting in the street but the do holders were afraid of human rights whilst we the tax payers continued paying for him and his extended family to live like royalty (thought bigamous relationships were illegal in this country by the way)
This is a football forum with a page for debates like this - if people want to discuss these issues then head to that page and keep this one for rovers related stuff
The forum has not gone downhill it's just got threads on wrong page - moderators generally do a great job
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Who are "our own" that are being murdered, Bally? White folk? English people? Your implication is that the victims, who by the way in these attacks have been people of all races, creeds and nationalities, are 'our own' and the attackers, implied to be all Muslims by the generalisation of your mate Vicar, are the ones we must oppose. Really, when all is said and done the victims are all people, just like us. Their background, skin colour etc. is not relevant whatsoever.
Also, Theresa May has indeed said enough is enough...well I agree, but who was the Home Secretary overseeing cuts to the police force since 2010? That would be Mrs. May, funnily enough.
Our own are " Normal day to day people of all religions, colour, creed, one head or two 6 fingers anyone who you may consider as being normal" But I suppose as a Catholic I may refer to us Christians, or being white skinned English I may say that I am normal, Racist????? I had an Irish wife a proper one and my grandparents were Irish - proper ones to from The Free State, so I will add that to the list, errr a father of two children I am a widower err I support my local team errr what else oh yes I have green eyes err I have The Republic of Ireland Tattoos and the England flag on the same arm.. I really can't think of anything else that I could think of as normal... Oh yes. NO MORE SWEARING IT OFFENDS PEOPLE AND AS A SWEARER AND A RUN OF THE MILL DUNSCROFT LAD WHO DID NOT HAVE A SILVER SPOON IN HIS MOUTH AS A CHILD BUT ONE WHO'S PARENTS SENT TO A CATHOLIC SCHOOL AS A KID AND WHO HAD TO ENDURE GOING PAST TWO PRODDY SCHOOL TO GET TOWARDS HOME AND GETTING CHASED AND PASTED BECAUSE I WAS DIFFERENT BECAUSE I WAS A CATHOLIC.!" Hey what do you know I am one of them and not one of our own.
Cor Flippin eck I'll go to the bottom of our stairs.
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VOTE LABOUR VOTE LABOUR I AM A THIK KID , WALK INTO ENGLAND REPLACE THE FLAG AND CREATE AND RAISE A TOTALLY WHITE ONE COME ON AND BOMB US KILL US AND TEK ALL US MONEY AND WOMEN YOU CAN EVEN AV OUR BEER.
I hope some understand what I am saying and I should add in a very mouse like voice. "Not in my lifetime Pal"
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Christ you're a patronising, childish Kitson at times bally.
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Only when I really want to have a bit of fun.
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Recentit this forum has gone right down the toilet. You've got someone suggesting blowing up mosques. You've got some dinosaur from the seventies calling every woman going a slag. It's the 21st century grow up for f**ks sake!
Oi space age head what's wrong with the 1970s and don't give me that shit about it been the 21st century been so cool and great .no such thing as cyber hacks or ID theft ,you knew all your neighbours ,milk was milk as was butter,petrol was king,and the Middle East was dealing with its own shit within its own boarders,EU was not as EU today.most crimes could be seen by the eye unlike today.
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Not sure at all what your all-caps point was there Bally. If it was an attempt to "have a bit of fun" at my expense then I'm afraid it's missed the mark, and if you're insinuating I'm a "thik kid" (cos I genuinely can't tell if that's aimed at me, the wider population or yourself as a send-up) then all I can say is that I see only one person in this discussion coming across as childish, and it isn't me.
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Actually it was general fun, not aimed at you or anyone else just a bit of fun, people tell me that putting capitals in text means you are shouting. bloody clever some people I never shout I just wish to make my salient points clear so they do not miss the mark but If I wanted to name you be assured I would, so if I am childish and you wish me to act that way, not a problem...God help us all roll on August.
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I tell you what though, thinking about it. you keep your site.
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No worries then Bally, like I said I genuinely couldn't tell what the point was.
The off-season has a lot to answer for to be fair, everyone has run out of Rovers-related things to argue about so now it's on to the hot topics of the day.
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That was the fun of it. Was not intended to offend
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Mrs May says greater punishment for extreamists, now the suicide bombers had better be worried and the ones that get shot which accounts for 90% of them
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Right, I've been off the forum for a few weeks (still getting over the disappointment at Hartlepool), but allow me to reinforce what we will not have on here.
This is a football forum, primarily for Rovers fans but occasionally those of other "faiths", and we generally respect each other. This off-topic section does get hijacked with some views which could be called "extremist" in themselves from time to time. Dave, bombing mosques? Jesus, mate, more Muslims are killed by ISIS globally than any other faith. That's like saying blow up all the Catholic churches because, well, the IRA y'know.... Utterly ridiculous and absolutely offensive. No more.
Anyone else want to throw any half baked inflammatory and offensive views into this section, be my guest. Your ban from the forun will last until the footy starts again (at the earliest).
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It was meant tongue in cheek mate but some on here need a transplant of some kind but I did apologise
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Yes, I saw that and it was the right thing to do mate. I understand knee jerk reactions when feelings are running high, and we might regret them afterwards. Hence, I've kept off here since Hartlepool.
Let's be clear. Calling for violence or damage to property has no place on this (or any other) board. So it ends now.
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It was meant tongue in cheek mate but some on here need a transplant of some kind but I did apologise
You'll have to help me out here because I'm pretty confused - in your apology you've said it was a heat of the moment reaction because you were hurting, yet now it was all a joke and those that were offended (I would wager about 90% of this board, myself included) need a sense of humour transplant? Doesn't seem to be the most sincere apology to me. Or was that tongue in cheek too?
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Yes, I saw that and it was the right thing to do mate. I understand knee jerk reactions when feelings are running high, and we might regret them afterwards. Hence, I've kept off here since Hartlepool.
Let's be clear. Calling for violence or damage to property has no place on this (or any other) board. So it ends now.
Rob. You say you have not been on site for a while, a lot of things have been said since the end of the season and you are just selecting one. Threats to commit damage etc. I know The Vicar well and he is not in any way possibly connected to anyone who would think such actions were justified, he certainly is not even thoughtful enough to put it through. But are you a moderator because you are issuing a threat of banning him. I repeat there have been far more nastier things stated, and as for you picking on us Catholics, perhaps you will now apologise.
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I do feel there seems, by some, to be a more robust expression of disgust at the irrational comments of a clearly upset poster than of the bas**rds who caused his outrage.
Can we please accept his apology and forgive and forget his remarks, which were expressed at a time of emotional upset, lest we forget the real evil of these events.
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Thanks Bentley
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I personally am more than happy to see and accept your apology Vicar, obviously the whole episode struck a nerve with me and led to some unsavoury discussions over the last few days. Time to draw a line under all this and get back to what matters on the VSC: the football!
Is it August 5th yet?
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This is off topic! Football is on another thread. MODS PLEASE :P