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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Retdon1 on July 25, 2017, 11:36:47 am
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Signed for Peterborough on a 2 year deal
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If he wanted a two year deal i'm glad we didn't sign him, too risky. Good luck to him anyway
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w does it say this?
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There chairman has just tweeted it
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Will be interesting to see how many games he plays (or doesn't) this season.
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Does this mean the rumours about Greer are true or is it back to the drawing board.
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Class act but we can't go risking 2 years contracts on cripples.
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Class act but we can't go risking 2 years contracts on cripples.
Keegan, Mcullough. They're just two injury prone players we gave long term contracts to.
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Not going to lie I'm a bit gutted that ones got away... but onto the next one
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
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It will have been the two year deal that's swung Peterboroughs way. It's a shame but with his injury record it's a gamble. Although he looked a class act if your not playing regularly then it's a waste, he might prove everybody wrong.
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Would have been a gamble that we've probably decided not to take.
On to the next one
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Would you have given him a 2 year deal?
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Would you have given him a 2 year deal?
Yes
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Would you have given him a 2 year deal?
Yes
Strange you didn't mention that beforehand then.
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Yes, we were not willing to offer a 2 year deal to someone so injury prone and I for one totally agree.
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Don't talk wet Frosty. He wasn't a target anyway. Without knowing the content of the 2 year contract you can't say whether you would have offered that or not!
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Yes, we were not willing to offer a 2 year deal to someone so injury prone and I for one totally agree.
Well Peterborough don't think it's a risk. Let's see who finishes higher.
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Don't talk wet Frosty. He wasn't a target anyway. Without knowing the content of the 2 year contract you can't say whether you would have offered that or not!
He wasn't a target? Give up man.
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That also depends on whether they finish higher than us because of or in spite of Steven Taylor.
They could also finish below us with a larger wage bill.
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Yes, we were not willing to offer a 2 year deal to someone so injury prone and I for one totally agree.
Well Peterborough don't think it's a risk. Let's see who finishes higher.
That's up to them Frosty, if we had signed him on a 2 year deal and he broke down in the first game of the season and was out for months, you would be the first on here lambasting the board about it. You have nothing to offer unless it's a negative you must be an absolute joy to be around.
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Yes, we were not willing to offer a 2 year deal to someone so injury prone and I for one totally agree.
Well Peterborough don't think it's a risk. Let's see who finishes higher.
That's up to them Frosty, if we had signed him on a 2 year deal and he broke down in the first game of the season and was out for months, you would be the first on here lambasting the board about it. You have nothing to offer unless it's a negative you must be an absolute joy to be around.
Just like Keegan and Mcullogh
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Yes, we were not willing to offer a 2 year deal to someone so injury prone and I for one totally agree.
Well Peterborough don't think it's a risk. Let's see who finishes higher.
That's up to them Frosty, if we had signed him on a 2 year deal and he broke down in the first game of the season and was out for months, you would be the first on here lambasting the board about it. You have nothing to offer unless it's a negative you must be an absolute joy to be around.
Just like Keegan and Mcullogh
But we've now released keegan and it's just unfortunate for McCullough.
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So much for him really wanting to come here
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So much for him really wanting to come here
Money talks.
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So much for him really wanting to come here
Money talks.
Yes and it goes back to what I was saying the other day about the football world treating the fans as though they're stupid
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So much for him really wanting to come here
Money talks.
You're an idiot.
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So much for him really wanting to come here
Fergie needs to keep his mouth shut at times, there was no need to be telling everyone he wanted to come.
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So much for him really wanting to come here
Money talks.
At his age if you get offered two years you have to take it.
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So much for him really wanting to come here
Money talks.
You're an idiot.
Boo hoo.
Moron.
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Would you have given him a 2 year deal?
Yes
Strange you didn't mention that beforehand then.
Do we know we didn't offer him a two year deal? Pity we haven't signed him, he would have been a good addition to the team
COYR
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So much for him really wanting to come here
Money talks.
Yes and it goes back to what I was saying the other day about the football world treating the fans as though they're stupid
Like Gaz pointed out, a longer deal means more money for him. Why wouldn't he take it. He probably did want to come here, but we couldn't offer what he wanted.
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Would you have given him a 2 year deal?
Yes
Strange you didn't mention that beforehand then.
Do we know we didn't offer him a two year deal? Pity we haven't signed him, he would have been a good addition to the team
COYR
Good point. Everyone (including me) presumes we offered him one year.
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Don't think many on here would have been happy to see him get a two year deal, especially if he then gets injured. On to the next one. 10 days ago he wasn't even on our radar, it was only when Ipswich let him go that Fergie thought he'd give him a look.
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Don't think many on here would have been happy to see him get a two year deal, especially if he then gets injured. On to the next one. 10 days ago he wasn't even on our radar, it was only when Ipswich let him go that Fergie thought he'd give him a look.
I wonder how many Peterborough supporters are complaining.
I find it really funny that people see an over the hill Gordon Greer as the answer to our defensive woes.
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Yes, we were not willing to offer a 2 year deal to someone so injury prone and I for one totally agree.
Well Peterborough don't think it's a risk. Let's see who finishes higher.
That's up to them Frosty, if we had signed him on a 2 year deal and he broke down in the first game of the season and was out for months, you would be the first on here lambasting the board about it. You have nothing to offer unless it's a negative you must be an absolute joy to be around.
Just like Keegan and Mcullogh
So you're criticising the club for signing injury-prone players, and criticising them for not signing injury-prone players?
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Yes, we were not willing to offer a 2 year deal to someone so injury prone and I for one totally agree.
Well Peterborough don't think it's a risk. Let's see who finishes higher.
That's up to them Frosty, if we had signed him on a 2 year deal and he broke down in the first game of the season and was out for months, you would be the first on here lambasting the board about it. You have nothing to offer unless it's a negative you must be an absolute joy to be around.
Just like Keegan and Mcullogh
So you're criticising the club for signing injury-prone players, and criticising them for not signing injury-prone players?
No i'm just pointing out that we do sign injury prone players.
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disappointed to lose out to the Posh , but how many games will he play? doubt it will be many.
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Yes, we were not willing to offer a 2 year deal to someone so injury prone and I for one totally agree.
Well Peterborough don't think it's a risk. Let's see who finishes higher.
That's up to them Frosty, if we had signed him on a 2 year deal and he broke down in the first game of the season and was out for months, you would be the first on here lambasting the board about it. You have nothing to offer unless it's a negative you must be an absolute joy to be around.
Just like Keegan and Mcullogh
So you're criticising the club for signing injury-prone players, and criticising them for not signing injury-prone players?
No i'm just pointing out that we do sign injury prone players.
So is it a good thing or a bad thing that we sign injury-prone players then?
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It's yet another target we've missed out on. I think it is clear what the reason is
Yes, we were not willing to offer a 2 year deal to someone so injury prone and I for one totally agree.
Well Peterborough don't think it's a risk. Let's see who finishes higher.
That's up to them Frosty, if we had signed him on a 2 year deal and he broke down in the first game of the season and was out for months, you would be the first on here lambasting the board about it. You have nothing to offer unless it's a negative you must be an absolute joy to be around.
Just like Keegan and Mcullogh
Neither of those had injury issues when we signed them and maybe the club is learning
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So much for him really wanting to come here
Money talks.
Yes and it goes back to what I was saying the other day about the football world treating the fans as though they're stupid
Like Gaz pointed out, a longer deal means more money for him. Why wouldn't he take it. He probably did want to come here, but we couldn't offer what he wanted.
Couldn't or wouldn't
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So much for him really wanting to come here
Money talks.
Yes and it goes back to what I was saying the other day about the football world treating the fans as though they're stupid
Like Gaz pointed out, a longer deal means more money for him. Why wouldn't he take it. He probably did want to come here, but we couldn't offer what he wanted.
Couldn't or wouldn't
Ferguson's own interview said we would struggle to compete if it came down to finances.
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Don't think many on here would have been happy to see him get a two year deal, especially if he then gets injured. On to the next one. 10 days ago he wasn't even on our radar, it was only when Ipswich let him go that Fergie thought he'd give him a look.
I wonder how many Peterborough supporters are complaining.
I find it really funny that people see an over the hill Gordon Greer as the answer to our defensive woes.
Who cares what Peterborough supporters think? They won't like it if he keeps up his career injury record, it's a gamble and you know it is. You're another on here who never seems to be content unless there's something to complain about, in this very thread you're criticising the club for signing injury-prone players on long deals yet bemoaning the exact opposite regarding Taylor.
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Don't think many on here would have been happy to see him get a two year deal, especially if he then gets injured. On to the next one. 10 days ago he wasn't even on our radar, it was only when Ipswich let him go that Fergie thought he'd give him a look.
I wonder how many Peterborough supporters are complaining.
I find it really funny that people see an over the hill Gordon Greer as the answer to our defensive woes.
Who cares what Peterborough supporters think? They won't like it if he keeps up his career injury record, it's a gamble and you know it is. You're another on here who never seems to be content unless there's something to complain about, in this very thread you're criticising the club for signing injury-prone players on long deals yet bemoaning the exact opposite regarding Taylor.
Football is about taking gambles. Signing a 37 year old Greer is a gamble.
For whatever reason, Ferguson hasn't been able to address the issue of defense since he joined the club. We've missed out on several top targets by his own admission. There is a reason for this.
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Am I the only one of a few that think we've dodged a bullet here!? His injury record, especially in the past few seasons is awful. If clubs with far greater resources and access to top training and medical facilities can't get him fit for more than a handful of games at a time then I very much doubt we can.
No doubt a talented player at this level but an expensive talent in the treatment room certainly won't help us long term.
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Have we signed Greer?
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Have we signed Greer?
Not yet. Thankfully.
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Have we signed Greer?
Not yet. Thankfully.
Why are you assuming it then, I doubt he's coming either, more than likely smoke and mirrors to obscure who the real target is.
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Have we signed Greer?
Not yet. Thankfully.
I don't understand why you would be more for Taylor over Greer? What's the negativity?
Then again, if it's announced we've missed out on Greer you will moan again
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Have we signed Greer?
Not yet. Thankfully.
I don't understand why you would be more for Taylor over Greer? What's the negativity?
Then again, if it's announced we've missed out on Greer you will moan again
Hold your horses
@liamhoden
Darren Ferguson confirms to me that Rovers will NOT be signing Gordon Greer #drfc
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We don't need to know who we're not signing!
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Mr Frost,Taylor has just been released by Ipswich,and although he played for Newcastle is originally from the London area.
Although money is a big draw,moving a young family,and everyday transport etc. and location must be a big factor.
Taylor can probably stay where he was living last season by signing for Peterborough.
He will have to have a good season there to be as big an influence as Bostwick who he has replaced.
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We don't need to know who we're not signing!
Yes we do, it will stop endless threads on here talking crap!
COYR
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Mr Frost,Taylor has just been released by Ipswich,and although he played for Newcastle is originally from the London area.
Although money is a big draw,moving a young family,and everyday transport etc. and location must be a big factor.
Taylor can probably stay where he was living last season by signing for Peterborough.
He will have to have a good season there to be as big an influence as Bostwick who he has replaced.
Whilst I take your point, Taylor is Geordie to the bone. His parents are from Newcastle and he grew up there, only spent a couple of weeks after being born in London.
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The longer the hunt goes on the more likely we are to end up with a young loanee.
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I'd just like to announce we're not signing Pepe.
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10 days ago, who was on our radar? Running out of options?
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10 days ago, who was on our radar? Running out of options?
Honestly, I don't know Alan and I expect very few do. All rumours from forums, local papers etc.
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I must admit, it's got me scratching my head. On the one hand we're told there's nothing wrong with the budget and it's competitive and yet the truth of the matter is we seem to be struggling to get what the manager has claimed he wants. Even the rose-tinted mob must be starting to squirm a bit.
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I must admit, it's got me scratching my head. On the one hand we're told there's nothing wrong with the budget and it's competitive and yet the truth of the matter is we seem to be struggling to get what the manager has claimed he wants. Even the rose-tinted mob must be starting to squirm a bit.
Its blatant that the funds aren't there for Fergie this season.
We must be so far down the shortlist now,must be scraping the barrel!
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I must admit, it's got me scratching my head. On the one hand we're told there's nothing wrong with the budget and it's competitive and yet the truth of the matter is we seem to be struggling to get what the manager has claimed he wants. Even the rose-tinted mob must be starting to squirm a bit.
I'm not rose tinted, I don't see the panic and as to what Fergie is saying in the press I'm taking with a pinch of salt.
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I must admit, it's got me scratching my head. On the one hand we're told there's nothing wrong with the budget and it's competitive and yet the truth of the matter is we seem to be struggling to get what the manager has claimed he wants. Even the rose-tinted mob must be starting to squirm a bit.
Its blatant that the funds aren't there for Fergie this season.
We must be so far down the shortlist now,must be scraping the barrel!
Is it? I doubt we would have offered either player a two year contract, one due to injuries and the other age but obviously it's the budget
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I will give way with Taylor,we must have thought he could come to us or he would not have played in a game.But Greer being mentioned was because I saw a report by a Bradford journalist, and a thread on the City forum about him signing for us.
Obviously not true,so how has it become that he was ever a realistic target of Fergie.
As I have said in another thread,I would much rather us go for someone like Kyle Howkins on loan,as I think we are well served with the two experienced players we have,and covered with the two younger players, who in Wrights case will be expected to press for a start this season anyway.
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We'll see who the next person is on the list, tomorrow night (I presume). I've read the Bury preview of their thoughts on us and it would seem the whole division know exactly where we are short.
We either sort it before the kick off or, rest assured, teams will be well versed in how to get at us, particularly in the early matches.
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And I repeat yet again that DF is being patient and waiting for the right person to fill the spaces we have left.
Why do people assume that Taylor or Greer were top of the list? Neither was ever on our short list to begin with, yes they became available but they weren't identified initially.
And until the PL clubs finalise their player lists we may not be finalising our squad either.
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And I repeat yet again that DF is being patient and waiting for the right person to fill the spaces we have left.
Why do people assume that Taylor or Greer were top of the list? Neither was ever on our short list to begin with, yes they became available but they weren't identified initially.
And until the PL clubs finalise their player lists we may not be finalising our squad either.
Ferguson said he wanted to sign Tàylor. If he wasn't the right person then why start discussing a move with him?
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The usual babies shitting in their nappies again. Does my f**kin head in. Chill out and see what pans out.
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Peterborough have just had a big pay day so can afford to spend on players -if we offered Taylor £x and they offered £x+y then it's a no brainer
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Nobody could have put it better Nudga.
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Ferguson says in the interview with the free press it was down to money and not the two year contract. We couldn't afford him.
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And I repeat yet again that DF is being patient and waiting for the right person to fill the spaces we have left.
Why do people assume that Taylor or Greer were top of the list? Neither was ever on our short list to begin with, yes they became available but they weren't identified initially.
And until the PL clubs finalise their player lists we may not be finalising our squad either.
Ferguson said he wanted to sign Tàylor. If he wasn't the right person then why start discussing a move with him?
He also said we've spoke with Greer.
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Ferguson says in the interview with the free press it was down to money and not the two year contract. We couldn't afford him.
Couldn't afford him, or didn't think he was worth it?
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I don't understand why it's either a really experienced pro or a really young loanee being discussed.
Why can't we go and pinch a solid middle aged bloke from league two ready for his step up? We've got a bit of money to spend haven't we?
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Ferguson says in the interview with the free press it was down to money and not the two year contract. We couldn't afford him.
Couldn't afford him, or didn't think he was worth it?
Read the interview
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There is a difference between not being able to afford and not thinking he was worth his demands
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Ferguson says in the interview with the free press it was down to money and not the two year contract. We couldn't afford him.
How much do you think we should have paid him?
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Ferguson says in the interview with the free press it was down to money and not the two year contract. We couldn't afford him.
How much do you think we should have paid him?
That isn't my decision. The interview is pretty clear that we couldn't meet his demands.
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I've heard the clincher was that we couldn't provide his missus a nursing job at Ipswich 😏
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That doesn't mean we couldn't afford him, it means we didn't want to spend that much on him.
How many games he played in last 5 years?
And you're wanting us to splash a load of money on him.
It's very risky from Peterborough, to give someone like him a two year deal is daft
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I don't understand why it's either a really experienced pro or a really young loanee being discussed.
Why can't we go and pinch a solid middle aged bloke from league two ready for his step up? We've got a bit of money to spend haven't we?
I agree. Apparently our scouts spent a fair portion of last season watching Lincoln City. They have a central defender (Raggett) who has racked up considerable experience but still has his best years ahead of him and has attracted a bit of interest. I'd rather we went for someone like that.
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Ferguson says in the interview with the free press it was down to money and not the two year contract. We couldn't afford him.
How much do you think we should have paid him?
That isn't my decision. The interview is pretty clear that we couldn't meet his demands.
So what's your point. As I said to you earlier, he wasn't a target (which you dismissed) hence there wasn't a financial provision made for him.
Obviously once he made himself available then they're tried to do a deal however, he's secured a better financial package elsewhere. End of.
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Ferguson says in the interview with the free press it was down to money and not the two year contract. We couldn't afford him.
How much do you think we should have paid him?
That isn't my decision. The interview is pretty clear that we couldn't meet his demands.
So what's your point. As I said to you earlier, he wasn't a target (which you dismissed) hence there wasn't a financial provision made for him.
Obviously once he made himself available then they're tried to do a deal however, he's secured a better financial package elsewhere. End of.
He was a target, otherwise we wouldn't have bothered having him on trial.
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That doesn't mean we couldn't afford him, it means we didn't want to spend that much on him.
How many games he played in last 5 years?
And you're wanting us to splash a load of money on him.
It's very risky from Peterborough, to give someone like him a two year deal is daft
How do to you know that's what it means. It isn't what Ferguson says in the interview
Ferguson indicates we would have offered him a two year deal. That wasn't the issue.
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He wasn't a target that DF had on his original list and made provision for the budget! He became available and was offered a trial and Fergie wanted to sign him.
Once you accept that, then you may be able to understand why we couldn't match what he wants.
No great loss in my opinion but no doubt the bugger will prove me wrong now!
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And I repeat yet again that DF is being patient and waiting for the right person to fill the spaces we have left.
Why do people assume that Taylor or Greer were top of the list? Neither was ever on our short list to begin with, yes they became available but they weren't identified initially.
And until the PL clubs finalise their player lists we may not be finalising our squad either.
Ferguson said he wanted to sign Tàylor. If he wasn't the right person then why start discussing a move with him?
That doesn't mean we couldn't afford him, it means we didn't want to spend that much on him.
How many games he played in last 5 years?
And you're wanting us to splash a load of money on him.
It's very risky from Peterborough, to give someone like him a two year deal is daft
How do to you know that's what it means. It isn't what Ferguson says in the interview
Ferguson indicates we would have offered him a two year deal. That wasn't the issue.
That's not accurate either, what DF said was;
Ferguson denied the two-year deal offered to Taylor by Peterborough was the determining factor. He said: "It wasn't anything to do with that. "It was more about the whole structure of the deal.
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And I repeat yet again that DF is being patient and waiting for the right person to fill the spaces we have left.
Why do people assume that Taylor or Greer were top of the list? Neither was ever on our short list to begin with, yes they became available but they weren't identified initially.
And until the PL clubs finalise their player lists we may not be finalising our squad either.
Ferguson said he wanted to sign Tàylor. If he wasn't the right person then why start discussing a move with him?
That doesn't mean we couldn't afford him, it means we didn't want to spend that much on him.
How many games he played in last 5 years?
And you're wanting us to splash a load of money on him.
It's very risky from Peterborough, to give someone like him a two year deal is daft
How do to you know that's what it means. It isn't what Ferguson says in the interview
Ferguson indicates we would have offered him a two year deal. That wasn't the issue.
That's not accurate either, what DF said was;
Ferguson denied the two-year deal offered to Taylor by Peterborough was the determining factor. He said: "It wasn't anything to do with that. "It was more about the whole structure of the deal.
Paint it up how you like. It clearly indicates we would have offered two years.
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No point in letting facts get in the way of usual doom and gloom arguments
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And I repeat yet again that DF is being patient and waiting for the right person to fill the spaces we have left.
Why do people assume that Taylor or Greer were top of the list? Neither was ever on our short list to begin with, yes they became available but they weren't identified initially.
And until the PL clubs finalise their player lists we may not be finalising our squad either.
Ferguson said he wanted to sign Tàylor. If he wasn't the right person then why start discussing a move with him?
That doesn't mean we couldn't afford him, it means we didn't want to spend that much on him.
How many games he played in last 5 years?
And you're wanting us to splash a load of money on him.
It's very risky from Peterborough, to give someone like him a two year deal is daft
How do to you know that's what it means. It isn't what Ferguson says in the interview
Ferguson indicates we would have offered him a two year deal. That wasn't the issue.
That's not accurate either, what DF said was;
Ferguson denied the two-year deal offered to Taylor by Peterborough was the determining factor. He said: "It wasn't anything to do with that. "It was more about the whole structure of the deal.
Paint it up how you like. It clearly indicates we would have offered two years.
I'm not painting it any colour, but what I am doing is quoting the man as reported and not interpreting it meet my negative opinion.
But what it probably means is we didn't want to tie up a significant portion of our budget, on someone who couldn't guarantee to get through a two year contract. To me that makes common sense.
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How much of the budget has gone on giving Marquis a 3 year deal.
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Lot of doom mongering again. Sometimes it just doesn't work out. Might not be because we're poor but actually there's thousands to a deal and Ferguson has to make his choices.
I say fair play for sticking to a deal. Imagine you break the bank on him you end up with Butler, Baudry etc at the door tomorrow complaining. There's so many complexities we should trust Ferguson.
Every year we get the same comments and every year the budget in the accounts is shown to be of a high level and every year we lose money. Unless a sheikh walks through the door that's how it is.
Perhaps Peterbrough have more cash, perhaps they chose to spend more on him. Either way he's made that choice and we move on. We have a solid starting line up but clearly still need another one or two in.
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How much of the budget has gone on giving Marquis a 3 year deal.
The deal was factored into the budget, as was LG1 payment level for our current squad. And no doubt a promotion bonus will also be factored in!!
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Well it's clear what Taylors motivation was. To get the best financial deal without having to prove himself. Not blaming him for that.
I would have liked to have seen him tested v Owls tomorrow before offering him anything, although DF seemed to be happy with what he'd seen.
Wouldn't be surprised if he's also got a nice little signing on fee upfront.
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Hes obvioysly gone to a club thats prepared to put their money where their mouth is!!!!!!!!
Meanwhile were left with a crippled defence and an injury crisis before the season has even started!!!!
WTF is going on!!!!!!! If we're giving a three year contract and more money to Marquis why cant we sign a defender to give ourselves a chance of staying up????
Not good enough at all. DISGRACEFUL THAT THE SEASON KICKS OFF IN 10 DAYS AND WE DONT HAVE A DEFENCE!!!!!
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We'll see who the next person is on the list, tomorrow night (I presume). I've read the Bury preview of their thoughts on us and it would seem the whole division know exactly where we are short.
We either sort it before the kick off or, rest assured, teams will be well versed in how to get at us, particularly in the early matches.
I couldnt agree more.... Im glad weve got Gillingham in the first game and they've lost the best player otherwise Id be scared of us getting a right tonking off them!!!!
Why do we have a defence in an awful position for where it should be at this stage of pre season and an injury crisis with a manager that has always had a poor defensive record????????
Its not good is it!!!!
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Hes obvioysly gone to a club thats prepared to put their money where their mouth is!!!!!!!!
Meanwhile were left with a crippled defence and an injury crisis before the season has even started!!!!
WTF is going on!!!!!!! If we're giving a three year contract and more money to Marquis why cant we sign a defender to give ourselves a chance of staying up????
Not good enough at all. DISGRACEFUL THAT THE SEASON KICKS OFF IN 10 DAYS AND WE DONT HAVE A DEFENCE!!!!!
Utter nonsense.
You're moaning about having a crippled defence but then moaning that we haven't spent a load of money on a crippled defender.
We had all this negative shite this time last year, and on the morning of the first game of the season we signed houghton and mason. They didn't turn out bad did they.
People need to get a grip
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And I repeat yet again that DF is being patient and waiting for the right person to fill the spaces we have left.
Why do people assume that Taylor or Greer were top of the list? Neither was ever on our short list to begin with, yes they became available but they weren't identified initially.
And until the PL clubs finalise their player lists we may not be finalising our squad either.
Sorry fella, but Thats rubbish!!!!!!
We cant be after the right person as they would be signed by a club long before the last week of pre season.
Good players always get snapped up early on by good clubs who are going for it and were left to feed off the scraps and we cant even get them with Petrboro out bidding us for taylor,, and Greer not coming in now!!!!!
We dont have a defence and the season starts in 10 days...... you can dress it up however you want and we arent biding our time to get the right player because we have an injury crisis and no options at centre back.
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I seem to recall us signing a certain Rob Jones very late in pre season with say only one friendly left to play. That one didn't turn out too badly did it 😉
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Hes obvioysly gone to a club thats prepared to put their money where their mouth is!!!!!!!!
Meanwhile were left with a crippled defence and an injury crisis before the season has even started!!!!
WTF is going on!!!!!!! If we're giving a three year contract and more money to Marquis why cant we sign a defender to give ourselves a chance of staying up????
Not good enough at all. DISGRACEFUL THAT THE SEASON KICKS OFF IN 10 DAYS AND WE DONT HAVE A DEFENCE!!!!!
Utter nonsense.
You're moaning about having a crippled defence but then moaning that we haven't spent a load of money on a crippled defender.
We had all this negative shite this time last year, and on the morning of the first game of the season we signed houghton and mason. They didn't turn out bad did they.
People need to get a grip
We lost the first game 3-2 at accrington last year and had one of the worst defences in the top half of the table!!!!!
Now weve gone up a division and dont have a defence so you do the maths. Its not hard to work out that were going to get punished in this area and any new defenders we bring in now wont have time to gel.
We also have a manager thats had a bad defence throughout his career as a manager!!!!
Whatever the budget is,, we need to blow it out the window if we have to in order to get some good defenders signed otherwise were going to get embarrased early on in the season.
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And I repeat yet again that DF is being patient and waiting for the right person to fill the spaces we have left.
Why do people assume that Taylor or Greer were top of the list? Neither was ever on our short list to begin with, yes they became available but they weren't identified initially.
And until the PL clubs finalise their player lists we may not be finalising our squad either.
Sorry fella, but Thats rubbish!!!!!!
We cant be after the right person as they would be signed by a club long before the last week of pre season.
Good players always get snapped up early on by good clubs who are going for it and were left to feed off the scraps and we cant even get them with Petrboro out bidding us for taylor,, and Greer not coming in now!!!!!
We dont have a defence and the season starts in 10 days...... you can dress it up however you want and we arent biding our time to get the right player because we have an injury crisis and no options at centre back.
Sorry to not share your hysterical and immature opinion on building teams. However I have spoken at length with the club this pre-season and I had another telephone conversation on Monday morning when it was reiterated yet again that we are being patient and having to bide our time.
Good players don't always get snapped up early doors, especially when players are attached to PL clubs. We will have to wait for them to start to finalise their plans before we can finalise ours. That's a fact of modern football.
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Quote from Jonesy "don't panic-don't panic"
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Hes obvioysly gone to a club thats prepared to put their money where their mouth is!!!!!!!!
Meanwhile were left with a crippled defence and an injury crisis before the season has even started!!!!
WTF is going on!!!!!!! If we're giving a three year contract and more money to Marquis why cant we sign a defender to give ourselves a chance of staying up????
Not good enough at all. DISGRACEFUL THAT THE SEASON KICKS OFF IN 10 DAYS AND WE DONT HAVE A DEFENCE!!!!!
Utter nonsense.
You're moaning about having a crippled defence but then moaning that we haven't spent a load of money on a crippled defender.
We had all this negative shite this time last year, and on the morning of the first game of the season we signed houghton and mason. They didn't turn out bad did they.
People need to get a grip
We lost the first game 3-2 at accrington last year and had one of the worst defences in the top half of the table!!!!!
Now weve gone up a division and dont have a defence so you do the maths. Its not hard to work out that were going to get punished in this area and any new defenders we bring in now wont have time to gel.
We also have a manager thats had a bad defence throughout his career as a manager!!!!
Whatever the budget is,, we need to blow it out the window if we have to in order to get some good defenders signed otherwise were going to get embarrased early on in the season.
More nonsense,
You do know there's 10 days to go yet don't you, our defence wasn't one of the worst,
The two players we signed on the day of the first game were two of our best players last season.
Yes let's blow our budget out the water, great idea!
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And I repeat yet again that DF is being patient and waiting for the right person to fill the spaces we have left.
Why do people assume that Taylor or Greer were top of the list? Neither was ever on our short list to begin with, yes they became available but they weren't identified initially.
And until the PL clubs finalise their player lists we may not be finalising our squad either.
Sorry fella, but Thats rubbish!!!!!!
We cant be after the right person as they would be signed by a club long before the last week of pre season.
Good players always get snapped up early on by good clubs who are going for it and were left to feed off the scraps and we cant even get them with Petrboro out bidding us for taylor,, and Greer not coming in now!!!!!
We dont have a defence and the season starts in 10 days...... you can dress it up however you want and we arent biding our time to get the right player because we have an injury crisis and no options at centre back.
Sorry to not share your hysterical and immature opinion on building teams. However I have spoken at length with the club this pre-season and I had another telephone conversation on Monday morning when it was reiterated yet again that we are being patient and having to bide our time.
Good players don't always get snapped up early doors, especially when players are attached to PL clubs. We will have to wait for them to start to finalise their plans before we can finalise ours. That's a fact of modern football.
When your up the clubs backside,, you're bound to say that and not say anything negative because you wont want to upset anyone.
When you take away the blinkers we're still 3 centre backs short with 10 days of pre season to go!!!! WTF is going on becayse I bet theres not 1 other club out there,, who is so weak in such an important position at this time!!!!
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3 centre backs short 😂😂😂😂😂
I bet every club has negative clowns spouting similar nonsense
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George,
Ha ha!! I don't say anything negative? Somehow I doubt very much if Gavin or Liam would agree with that!!
But wetting my knickers on a football forum is not what I do, I leave that to people like you.
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George,
Ha ha!! I don't say anything negative? Somehow I doubt very much if Gavin or Liam would agree with that!!
But wetting my knickers on a football forum is not what I do, I leave that to people like you.
And you're a fit and proper person to represent us when you come out with that????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Next joke.................
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George,
Ha ha!! I don't say anything negative? Somehow I doubt very much if Gavin or Liam would agree with that!!
But wetting my knickers on a football forum is not what I do, I leave that to people like you.
And you're a fit and proper person to represent us when you come out with that????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Next joke.................
Why would I represent you?
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George,
Ha ha!! I don't say anything negative? Somehow I doubt very much if Gavin or Liam would agree with that!!
But wetting my knickers on a football forum is not what I do, I leave that to people like you.
And you're a fit and proper person to represent us when you come out with that????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Next joke.................
Why would I represent you?
Isnt that your job at the fsf as you tell us all the time???????
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You do like the use of question marks and apostrophes don't you?
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George,
Ha ha!! I don't say anything negative? Somehow I doubt very much if Gavin or Liam would agree with that!!
But wetting my knickers on a football forum is not what I do, I leave that to people like you.
And you're a fit and proper person to represent us when you come out with that????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Next joke.................
I'd rather him represent us than a dullard like you.
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This is still a football forum isn't it? anyone would think we were demoted last season and were without a budget.
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However I have spoken at length with the club this pre-season and I had another telephone conversation on Monday morning when it was reiterated yet again that we are being patient and having to bide our time.
So, can we read into that you're a tad concerned as well SM? Otherwise, why have to ask the same question twice?
I'm finding it really difficult to get to grips with what our master plan was/is. 5 players, we were told were coming in and it didn't depend on any of the transfer-listed players leaving. We don't have even those 5 yet, never mind the '2 or 3' that may have been added later. And now we are reading criticisms of Middleton's advisors because they have not found him a Club. Mmmmm, let me see, that wouldn't have anything to do with freeing up funds, would it?
We didn't want Williams, then we find he's staying due to personal reasons (fair enough); then we have a few goes at sorting Marquis out and then we're after more experience and since then.....nowt!
We have McCullough, Bawdry and (possibly but hopefully not) Kiwomya out of action for a good few weeks and we're 'biding our time'. By my reckoning the time is almost up, as we start a week on Saturday. So, even if he gets 'the right men', they simply have a job on catching up to the rest of the squad and finding their feet.
Not great, is it?
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I'm not concerned at all. And I haven't asked a question twice. Most of my conversations with the club are about other matters and not about players who are coming or going. As a general rule that's not something I like to have knowledge about, after all why would I feel entitled to ask those questions?
But sometimes it crops up in conversation when we're discussing certain issues, and that's what happened on Monday. The message that I received is that the club could sign players right now if they wished but that would mean missing out on certain players that they have to wait longer for, and they don't intend to do that. They will wait until they know for certain whether they can sign those players, and then when they know how they stand they will commit one way or the other.
But, I'll repeat the message again, it has nothing to do with the budget. The budget is fine, it's all about attracting the best players to the club.
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If you think Middleton leaving the club would free up funds to get players in then you're daft.
He'll be on a pittance
We can't sign players just to cover 2/3 weeks of the season, have to make do until they're fit.
We need a centre half and a centre midfielder, and I'm confident we will have them come 5th august
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Not rocket science though is it, trying to get players off the books who have no future. Why would you want them hanging around and if it does help fund other deals then great!
Blowing the budget on one, possibly two players who are past their prime and injury risks would be stupid if it jeopardises money set aside for other, less risky players at the other end of their careers and contingencies should we suffer further injury woe.
I have no doubt DF hoped his acquisitions during the summer would have gone better but that's football, there are rarely sure things.
DF and GB have to deal with the here and now and are infinitely wiser, knowledgeable and more intelligent than any of us about these matters. Whilst I'm sure they want to improve the situation, they won't panic.
Keep calm. Patience is a great virtue and hopefully we'll be rewarded.
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I remember us signing Jason Shackel on the morning of the first game of the season and he didn't turn out bad.
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I agree with comment above from Filo. DF is constantly giving it large about players. Premiership players coming. Steven Taylor I'm starting to think that non of it's true he's just bigging it up
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And I repeat yet again that DF is being patient and waiting for the right person to fill the spaces we have left.
Why do people assume that Taylor or Greer were top of the list? Neither was ever on our short list to begin with, yes they became available but they weren't identified initially.
And until the PL clubs finalise their player lists we may not be finalising our squad either.
Sorry fella, but Thats rubbish!!!!!!
We cant be after the right person as they would be signed by a club long before the last week of pre season.
Good players always get snapped up early on by good clubs who are going for it and were left to feed off the scraps and we cant even get them with Petrboro out bidding us for taylor,, and Greer not coming in now!!!!!
We dont have a defence and the season starts in 10 days...... you can dress it up however you want and we arent biding our time to get the right player because we have an injury crisis and no options at centre back.
Sorry to not share your hysterical and immature opinion on building teams. However I have spoken at length with the club this pre-season and I had another telephone conversation on Monday morning when it was reiterated yet again that we are being patient and having to bide our time.
Good players don't always get snapped up early doors, especially when players are attached to PL clubs. We will have to wait for them to start to finalise their plans before we can finalise ours. That's a fact of modern football.
When your up the clubs backside,, you're bound to say that and not say anything negative because you wont want to upset anyone.
When you take away the blinkers we're still 3 centre backs short with 10 days of pre season to go!!!! WTF is going on becayse I bet theres not 1 other club out there,, who is so weak in such an important position at this time!!!!
3 centre backs short? What utter b*llocks.
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There's a world beyond Rovers, fellas. Have a good Wednesday.
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Alcock, Wright, Butler, Baudry, Mason, Garratt, McCullough, Fielding. 3 extra seems a tad excessive.
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There really is some cretins on here that seem to hijack every thread with the intent of getting a reaction (or over reaction) from others...
Everyone knows who they are............ so why not just ignore them and save us all the trouble of reading through this drivel in the hope of finding something constructive..
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Let's judge this later in the season
I'm sure plans are in place to get in who we need
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I think 1 of good quality is needed that's all. Does it need the hysteria of some on here? No not at all.
We can easily make do right now, but most of us want that bit more than making do.
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Alcock, Wright, Butler, Baudry, Mason, Garratt, McCullough, Fielding. 3 extra seems a tad excessive.
He's just picked a number and kept repeating it until someone's bitten and given him some attention. Makes a change from going on about possession I suppose.
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I'd rather throw one of our younger ones in until we get our main target, at least give them a chance to show what they've got