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Title: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Upton Rover on August 03, 2017, 03:11:40 pm
Not good at predicting a starting 11. So what's your thoughts. It also looks to me like DF will be trying to go all and win games and he will be prepared to concede quite a few goals. After all you have to score goals to win games in this game.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on August 03, 2017, 03:16:59 pm
Depends if he wants to play 4 or 5 at the back.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: BigKeif on August 03, 2017, 03:18:31 pm
I've a feeling Fergie will go 3-5-2 with the wing backs this Saturday.

Lawlor

Wright butler Andrews

Blair coppinger whiteman kongolo Rowe

Marquis mandeville
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Retdon1 on August 03, 2017, 03:22:15 pm
My guess would be

                        Lawlor

          Alcock.  Butler.  Mason
Blair.                                    Andrews
                     Kongolo
         Coppinger.        Rowe

            Marquis.     Mandenville
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on August 03, 2017, 03:23:38 pm
Mason Butler Alcock

Blair Copps Whiteman Rowe Andrews

Mandeville Marquis

Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on August 03, 2017, 03:27:40 pm
Or if he plays 442...

Blair Butler Wright Stevens

              Whiteman
Dave.    .                   Rowe
              Copps
       
       Mandy.    Marquis
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Welling Rover on August 03, 2017, 03:29:19 pm
Playing with no keeper then !!
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: drfchound on August 03, 2017, 03:32:22 pm
Or if he plays 442...

Blair Butler Wright Stevens

              Whiteman
Dave.    .                   Rowe
              Copps
       
       Mandy.    Marquis




Stevens?
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: drfchound on August 03, 2017, 03:32:46 pm
My guess would be

                        Lawlor

          Alcock.  Butler.  Mason
Blair.                                    Andrews
                     Kongolo
         Coppinger.        Rowe

            Marquis.     Mandenville




 :that:
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on August 03, 2017, 03:36:02 pm
Or if he plays 442...

Blair Butler Wright Stevens

              Whiteman
Dave.    .                   Rowe
              Copps
       
       Mandy.    Marquis




Stevens?

Andrews. Or Enda Stevens.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: RoversAlias on August 03, 2017, 03:42:39 pm
Who is Andrews? Who is Stevens? Not like Rovers fans to get players names wrong  :coat:
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on August 03, 2017, 03:44:59 pm
Who is Andrews? Who is Stevens? Not like Rovers fans to get players names wrong  :coat:

Bore off.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: steve@dcfd on August 03, 2017, 03:48:12 pm
Depends which way DF goes

1st choice.                 Lawlor

Blair.           Wright.                  Butler.              Andrews

                                  Mason

          Whiteman.                                  Rowe


                                    Coppinger

                             
                  Mandeville.                        Marquis


Or.                                         
 2nd choice.                  Lawlor

            Mason.             Butler.                  Andrews


Blair.      Whiteman.                  Kongolo.              Rowe

                                 Coppinger

                  Mandeville.                             Marquis
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Mac the hooped man on August 03, 2017, 03:51:38 pm
Not good at predicting a starting 11. So what's your thoughts. It also looks to me like DF will be trying to go all and win games and he will be prepared to concede quite a few goals. After all you have to score goals to win games in this game.

i would be a tad dissappointed if he didnt go out to win games?
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: balbyrover on August 03, 2017, 03:53:06 pm
Not good at predicting a starting 11. So what's your thoughts. It also looks to me like DF will be trying to go all and win games and he will be prepared to concede quite a few goals. After all you have to score goals to win games in this game.

i would be a tad dissappointed if he didnt go out to win games?

Some managers don't.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Chris Black come back on August 03, 2017, 03:54:23 pm
Kongolo only trained with team the first time today. He is right diamond player so partially competing with Copps.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: BigKeif on August 03, 2017, 03:58:20 pm
Kongolo only trained with team the first time today. He is right diamond player so partially competing with Copps.

He's also a box to box player too apparently and with copps sitting behind the strike force linking play up last year, I just think Fergie will play them together.

I get he's only trained for first time today too but just a feeling he will play.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: bedale rover on August 03, 2017, 04:01:07 pm
I think

3-3-1-3
Lawlor

Mason
Wright
Butler

Blair
Kangolo
Andrews

Copps

Mandeville
Marquis
Rowe
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: RoversAlias on August 03, 2017, 04:05:06 pm
Who is Andrews? Who is Stevens? Not like Rovers fans to get players names wrong  :coat:

Bore off.

Lighten up.

On topic, I think he'll play 3-5-2. If he does, here's the XI I'll expect:

Lawlor

Blair
Alcock
Butler
Mason
Andrew

Whiteman
Coppinger
Rowe

Mandeville
Marquis

Kongolo, Ben Khemis on the bench to ease them in a little bit. Plus I think if he plays 3 in the centre he'll prefer Coppinger to Kongolo for now.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: bpoolrover on August 03, 2017, 04:06:30 pm
Think you have to go with wright, we will be in trouble every ball in the box with Alcock and mason
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 03, 2017, 04:06:41 pm
Kongolo and Whiteman will start, I doubt their parent clubs have loaned them out to bench warm
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on August 03, 2017, 04:06:51 pm
I think

3-3-1-3
Lawlor

Mason
Wright
Butler

Blair
Kangolo
Andrews

Copps

Mandeville
Marquis
Rowe


That's a new formation on me!
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on August 03, 2017, 04:09:13 pm
L
Kongolo and Whiteman will start, I doubt their parent clubs have loaned them out to bench warm

Kongolo is very unlikely to start if we play three centre halves.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 03, 2017, 04:10:27 pm
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Kongolo and Whiteman will start, I doubt their parent clubs have loaned them out to bench warm

Kongolo is very unlikely to start if we play three centre halves.

I don't think we will
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on August 03, 2017, 04:23:02 pm
L
Kongolo and Whiteman will start, I doubt their parent clubs have loaned them out to bench warm

Kongolo is very unlikely to start if we play three centre halves.

I don't think we will

I'm not a massive fan of 3 centre halves at this level because I think you need better, more intelligent players to play the system than you tend to find in the 3rd or 4th division. I do think we have been at our best this pre season when we have been set up like that though. I'm sure Fergie has noticed this as well.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 03, 2017, 04:24:15 pm
Don't forget Blair may be a doubt due to his recent bereavement. If so, possibly Mason will play right wing back.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Jonathan on August 03, 2017, 04:35:03 pm
Kongolo and Whiteman will start, I doubt their parent clubs have loaned them out to bench warm

I hope that isn't a stipulation within the deals. They're not our players and we shouldn't be under any obligation to shoe horn them into our team. They should be selected on merit and on the basis that the team / system within which they'll operate is suitably balanced for the game.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: DonnyOsmond on August 03, 2017, 04:36:00 pm
Kongolo only trained with team the first time today. He is right diamond player so partially competing with Copps.

Not Matty Blair?
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 03, 2017, 04:43:52 pm
L
Kongolo and Whiteman will start, I doubt their parent clubs have loaned them out to bench warm

Kongolo is very unlikely to start if we play three centre halves.

I don't think we will

I'm not a massive fan of 3 centre halves at this level because I think you need better, more intelligent players to play the system than you tend to find in the 3rd or 4th division. I do think we have been at our best this pre season when we have been set up like that though. I'm sure Fergie has noticed this as well.

Fair enough I just can see him playing them both but we shall see Saturday
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 03, 2017, 04:45:33 pm
Kongolo and Whiteman will start, I doubt their parent clubs have loaned them out to bench warm

I hope that isn't a stipulation within the deals. They're not our players and we shouldn't be under any obligation to shoe horn them into our team. They should be selected on merit and on the basis that the team / system within which they'll operate is suitably balanced for the game.

I agree with you Jonathan but usually it is a stipulation unless injured
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: graingrover on August 03, 2017, 04:51:01 pm
Appears that all Gillingham's 5/6 new signings were to add height and strength in the back line so WRIGHT may be chosen ahead of ALCOCK to help counter that threat at corners and crosses .
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: dickos1 on August 03, 2017, 04:53:21 pm
Fergie wouldn't agree to having players that had guarantees they had to start.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on August 03, 2017, 04:53:45 pm
Fergie wouldn't agree to having players that had guarantees they had to start.

This.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 03, 2017, 04:55:12 pm
Kongolo is a central midfielder and can play the defensive position, as per Houghton. At 6' 2", he is the tallest midfielder we have had for some time and I'd want him in there. So, for me:

Lawlor

Blair
Alcock (or Mason)
Butler
Andrew

Kongolo (Dave)

Copps, Whiteman, Rowe

Marquis
Mandeville (or Williams)
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: mushRTID on August 03, 2017, 04:56:53 pm
We've got options!!! Why was everyone panicking??
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 03, 2017, 04:57:26 pm
Re the loans, I'm guessing there won't be such a stipulation in longer term loans so DF likely to use his discretion, although I think Whiteman will be the more certain of the two. He also has the height and is a good header of the ball.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Alan Southstand on August 03, 2017, 05:08:57 pm
Dave is taller!
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 03, 2017, 05:38:24 pm
Kongolo is a central midfielder and can play the defensive position, as per Houghton. At 6' 2", he is the tallest midfielder we have had for some time and I'd want him in there. So, for me:

Lawlor

Blair
Alcock (or Mason)
Butler
Andrew

Kongolo (Dave)

Copps, Whiteman, Rowe

Marquis
Mandeville (or Williams)

I think that's the nearest with possibly Mason for Blair with Alcock in. Still think Whiteman will play the holding role but either way, I'll be happy with that!
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: GazLaz on August 03, 2017, 05:58:12 pm
Kante is the best midfielder in the country and he's 4'6. Heights irrelevant.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on August 03, 2017, 06:04:23 pm
We're talking about defending set pieces!
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: DearneValleyRover on August 03, 2017, 06:10:12 pm
Dave is taller!

He might jump like Leo Fortune-West though. Only player I've seen with sunglasses on the bottom of his boots  :coat:
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Bezza on August 03, 2017, 06:31:58 pm
whatever side Fergie starts with its going to be backed up with a strong bench, Hold on it could be a roller coaster ride.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Move DRFC on August 03, 2017, 06:43:01 pm
Hope he doesn't go 5 at the back. Got us relegated trying to play with it last time in this division and we didn't get going last season until he played 4 at the back. You have to have better players than we have to successfully play a 3-5-2
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: drfchound on August 03, 2017, 08:55:21 pm
Hope he doesn't go 5 at the back. Got us relegated trying to play with it last time in this division and we didn't get going last season until he played 4 at the back. You have to have better players than we have to successfully play a 3-5-2




Surely the "5 at the back" is a typo.
Did you mean three.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: dknward2 on August 03, 2017, 09:26:46 pm
Don't even think Fergie will really know what his best 11 is right now but I'll guarantee he wants all 3 points and same the fact if it means letting 3 in we will just go and score 4
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: deebee on August 04, 2017, 08:17:00 am
One good point is that if we can't pick the team there's no way Gillingham can so they will not know how to set up against us. I know this works in reverse also. Looking forward to it should be a very exciting
game can't wait.
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: anton123 on August 04, 2017, 10:32:53 am
i would go with for this game
LAWLOR
BLAIR     WRIGHT      BUTLER     ANDREWS

                     WHITEMAN

DAVE                                         ROWE

                      COPPS

     MANDY                      MARQUIS
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Upton Rover on August 04, 2017, 12:58:21 pm
I would have William's in place of Mandeville
Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Upton Rover on August 04, 2017, 01:01:47 pm
Probable: 4-4-2 - Lawlor; Blair, Wright, Butler, Andrew; Mason, Whiteman, Coppinger, Rowe; Mandeville, Marquis

Title: Re: Any ideas on Saturdays starting 11
Post by: Al4475 on August 04, 2017, 03:28:54 pm
No idea - possibly:
Lawlor

Mason, Butler, Wright, Andrew

Blair, Whiteman, Kongolo, Rowe

Copps

Marquis

A bench that includes: Marosi, Alcock, Khemis, May (if he's not suspended), Beestin, Mandeville and Williams perhaps?

But that could all change when Kongolo's Man City defender bud and Houghton arrive later today/before midday tomorrow! Lol