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Title: Uber > yes or no
Post by: not on facebook on September 23, 2017, 08:14:36 pm
This will be tricky one as they are the far cheapest out there ,but that comes with the far bigger risk factor involved if you use them.





Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 23, 2017, 08:33:37 pm
Yes.
I find it madness that you can use it in Rotherham but not Donny.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: not on facebook on September 23, 2017, 09:07:31 pm
Yes.
I find it madness that you can use it in Rotherham but not Donny.

Iam not quite upto date with the uber facts  but I have to ask why I can be used in Rotherham and not in donny?.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 23, 2017, 09:10:34 pm
Yes.
I find it madness that you can use it in Rotherham but not Donny.

Iam not quite upto date with the uber facts  but I have to ask why I can be used in Rotherham and not in donny?.

Probably because of its proximity to Sheffield.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: roversdude on September 23, 2017, 09:25:59 pm
Never used them but nearly got run over by a silent über Prius in London last week
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Donnywolf on September 23, 2017, 09:39:05 pm
Never used them but nearly got run over by a silent über Prius in London last week

Ah yes the silent Prius. I had 2 and the number of people who step out in front of you in Car Parks is huge and always made me smile. They would jump and look at you and I always had a funny grin on my mush

Then in Budapest one day where I still looked right left right before crossing the road I stepped right into the path of the silent killer - I jumped - and the driver had a smile that I instantly "knew"

Anyway I decided enough was enough so now I have Rav4 Hybrid and its not as much fun cos pedestrian notice it more
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 23, 2017, 09:41:07 pm
I drive a hybrid too. The number of people who have walked out because they don't bother looking as they can't hear it is crazy. Only a matter of time before I hit someone!
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Donnywolf on September 23, 2017, 09:43:39 pm
... but to answer the point surely its market forces at work. Providing Uber have safe cars and safe vetted drivers surely they can then provide a service even if (or especially if) they undercut the Black Cabs ?

Incidentally I thought on Weds on way to AFC ..... Do Black Cabs still have to do The Knowledge cos with Sat Navs surely that would take them everywhere via the shortest route possible ?
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 23, 2017, 10:39:52 pm
Those of you who use Uber. I assume you understand their business model?

1) Play the "we're the friend of the punter who wants a cab - in fact we'll make prices so low that we won't make a profit for 5 years," card.

2) Drive as many taxi firm competitors out of business as they can.

3) In the meantime, invest shit loads in driverless car technology.

4) Be a monopoly business by 2030 when no drivers are needed.

5) Charge what the f**k you want...

This is a MASSIVE class war. What Uber plans is to put about 50 million drivers out of work across the world, and reap the profits for its investors. The cheap cab fares approach is just the initial skirmishes of that war.

Those of you who use Uber are the equivalent of those who used to blindly agree with what the Soviet Union said. You are blindly lapping up the product without thinking about the strategic position that powerful men are planning. We used to call the old Soviet lackeys "useful idiots". That's what Uber users are. Useful idiots who lap up cheap fares today, and don't give a moment's thoughtvas to what the implications will be in 10 years' time. 

 
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 23, 2017, 10:49:34 pm
Those of you who use Uber. I assume you understand their business model?

1) Play the "we're the friend of the punter who wants a cab - in fact we'll make prices so low that we won't make a profit for 5 years," card.

2) Drive as many taxi firm competitors out of business as they can.

3) In the meantime, invest shit loads in driverless car technology.

4) Be a monopoly business by 2030 when no drivers are needed.

5) Charge what the f**k you want...

This is a MASSIVE class war. What Uber plans is to put about 50 million drivers out of work across the world, and reap the profits for its investors. The cheap cab fares approach is just the initial skirmishes of that war.

Those of you who use Uber are the equivalent of those who used to blindly agree with what the Soviet Union said. You are blindly lapping up the product without thinking about the strategic position that powerful men are planning. We used to call the old Soviet lackeys "useful idiots". That's what Uber users are. Useful idiots who lap up cheap fares today, and don't give a moment's thoughtvas to what the implications will be in 10 years' time. 

 

I couldn't give a shit.

I'd rather pay a fiver for an Uber than twenty quid for a regular London cab.

They will get their London license renewed in the end.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 23, 2017, 11:36:51 pm
Like I said. Useful Idiot.

Their business model is predicated on making idiots think that they've got a good deal today, whilst actually f**king them over 10 times tomorrow.

Have you had a look at the Nottinghamshire coal mining villages lately?
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Dagenham Rover on September 23, 2017, 11:47:21 pm
I wouldnt like to guarantee they will get the license back theres reasons why they have been stopped from operating in other countries and cities as BST says theres a far far bigger picture with ubers business model
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Filo on September 24, 2017, 12:17:00 am
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: not on facebook on September 24, 2017, 03:07:36 am
BST unless ism getting the wrong end of the stick here ,but once driverless cars are flowing out of car show rooms it will be driverless taxis aswell.

So with above in mind why will uber have full run of driverless taxis ?
Surely micks driverless taxi company with his fleet of 10 or so cabs aswell as rosso driverless cabs and filo will have a driverless cab of his own.

With no drivers surely anyone could add their banger to a driverless cab fleet > or do I miss something.

Take away the drivers ,no more rapes or accidents or over charging etc etc hence surely no strict controll will be needed as in hackney carriage .

Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 24, 2017, 08:35:16 am
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off

The mini cab companies in Donny aren't exactly an example of how to run a good business.

And if you want to mention London cabbies, having lived there, many of them will deliberately take you on a longer route to inflate the fare. Or simply refuse to take you to your destination if they don't fancy going that way.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: NickDRFC on September 24, 2017, 09:39:43 am
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off

The mini cab companies in Donny aren't exactly an example of how to run a good business.

And if you want to mention London cabbies, having lived there, many of them will deliberately take you on a longer route to inflate the fare. Or simply refuse to take you to your destination if they don't fancy going that way.

I've lived in London for 8 of the last 9 years and the only issue I've ever had with a black cab is that sometimes they never seem to be about when you need them.

If paying a few more quid for my taxi home means that one less unvetted driver gets to scare some young girl in the back of his uber then I'm fine with that.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 24, 2017, 09:59:05 am
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off

The mini cab companies in Donny aren't exactly an example of how to run a good business.

And if you want to mention London cabbies, having lived there, many of them will deliberately take you on a longer route to inflate the fare. Or simply refuse to take you to your destination if they don't fancy going that way.

I've lived in London for 8 of the last 9 years and the only issue I've ever had with a black cab is that sometimes they never seem to be about when you need them.

If paying a few more quid for my taxi home means that one less unvetted driver gets to scare some young girl in the back of his uber then I'm fine with that.

Uber drivers are vetted. They all have enhanced checks.

And what makes you think all other London taxis are safe?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html%3famp#ampshare=https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Filo on September 24, 2017, 10:28:53 am
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off

The mini cab companies in Donny aren't exactly an example of how to run a good business.

And if you want to mention London cabbies, having lived there, many of them will deliberately take you on a longer route to inflate the fare. Or simply refuse to take you to your destination if they don't fancy going that way.

I've lived in London for 8 of the last 9 years and the only issue I've ever had with a black cab is that sometimes they never seem to be about when you need them.

If paying a few more quid for my taxi home means that one less unvetted driver gets to scare some young girl in the back of his uber then I'm fine with that.

Uber drivers are vetted. They all have enhanced checks.

And what makes you think all other London taxis are safe?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html%3famp#ampshare=https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html


TFL do not hold any records of uber drivers, as they are the licensing authourity and independent of any cab firm, that is totally wrong
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 24, 2017, 10:32:01 am
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off

The mini cab companies in Donny aren't exactly an example of how to run a good business.

And if you want to mention London cabbies, having lived there, many of them will deliberately take you on a longer route to inflate the fare. Or simply refuse to take you to your destination if they don't fancy going that way.

I've lived in London for 8 of the last 9 years and the only issue I've ever had with a black cab is that sometimes they never seem to be about when you need them.

If paying a few more quid for my taxi home means that one less unvetted driver gets to scare some young girl in the back of his uber then I'm fine with that.

Uber drivers are vetted. They all have enhanced checks.

And what makes you think all other London taxis are safe?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html%3famp#ampshare=https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html


TFL do not hold any records of uber drivers, as they are the licensing authourity and independent of any cab firm, that is totally wrong

And, what is your point? Fact is Uber perform their own checks, including enhanced DBS checks.

Maybe you could look at your employer Filo, and the way they operate their business before you take the moral high ground.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on September 24, 2017, 10:42:18 am
The FA also perform their own checks. Apparently.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on September 24, 2017, 11:36:20 am
BST unless ism getting the wrong end of the stick here ,but once driverless cars are flowing out of car show rooms it will be driverless taxis aswell.

So with above in mind why will uber have full run of driverless taxis ?
Surely micks driverless taxi company with his fleet of 10 or so cabs aswell as rosso driverless cabs and filo will have a driverless cab of his own.

With no drivers surely anyone could add their banger to a driverless cab fleet > or do I miss something.

Take away the drivers ,no more rapes or accidents or over charging etc etc hence surely no strict controll will be needed as in hackney carriage .



Oslo

When driverless cars come in, they will be very expensive. The additional technology required will make them much more expensive than normal cars. But we will have to use them, because they will use the roads much more efficiently than human-driven cars. So journey times and pollution will be reduced.

But. Most people won't be able to afford a driverless car. So, the predictions are that we won't own our own cars - we'll effectively use driverless taxis for every trip. Dial a cab to go to work, go to see your mum, go out for the day.

That's Uber's business model. They want to have a monopoly or a near-monopoly in the cab business so that, when we all depend on cabs for EVERY trip, they are the only player in town.

Think about the economics (Frosty won't care about this because he saves a couple of quid today, but for the rest of us, this is VERY important.) Uber has attracted $8bn of finance and it is valued at $70bn. That's a lot more than either Ford or General Motors.

But it's never once made a profit! So how can it be so highly valued? It's precisely because the big money men who have poured money into itcan see the big picture that Frosty isn't interested in. The current low fares are loss-leaders. They are the entry drug to make us all dependent on Uber when the big play that I described comes to pass.

Now, I'm not against the technology. It has to come and it will come. But if it's going to come, it's vital that we don't have a single mega-company controlling the market. We need hundreds, maybe thousands of local competitors all around the world. In the meantime, every one of you who uses Uber is bringing the day a bit closer when you don't CHOOSE to use them, but are utterly dependent on them
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Filo on September 24, 2017, 11:39:00 am
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off

The mini cab companies in Donny aren't exactly an example of how to run a good business.

And if you want to mention London cabbies, having lived there, many of them will deliberately take you on a longer route to inflate the fare. Or simply refuse to take you to your destination if they don't fancy going that way.

I've lived in London for 8 of the last 9 years and the only issue I've ever had with a black cab is that sometimes they never seem to be about when you need them.

If paying a few more quid for my taxi home means that one less unvetted driver gets to scare some young girl in the back of his uber then I'm fine with that.

Uber drivers are vetted. They all have enhanced checks.

And what makes you think all other London taxis are safe?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html%3famp#ampshare=https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html


TFL do not hold any records of uber drivers, as they are the licensing authourity and independent of any cab firm, that is totally wrong

And, what is your point? Fact is Uber perform their own checks, including enhanced DBS checks.

Maybe you could look at your employer Filo, and the way they operate their business before you take the moral high ground.

We've been here before with you, you know nothing about my employer, or the way he operates, and you probably know very little regarding how taxis are regulated
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 24, 2017, 11:42:54 am
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off

The mini cab companies in Donny aren't exactly an example of how to run a good business.

And if you want to mention London cabbies, having lived there, many of them will deliberately take you on a longer route to inflate the fare. Or simply refuse to take you to your destination if they don't fancy going that way.

I've lived in London for 8 of the last 9 years and the only issue I've ever had with a black cab is that sometimes they never seem to be about when you need them.

If paying a few more quid for my taxi home means that one less unvetted driver gets to scare some young girl in the back of his uber then I'm fine with that.

Uber drivers are vetted. They all have enhanced checks.

And what makes you think all other London taxis are safe?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html%3famp#ampshare=https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html


TFL do not hold any records of uber drivers, as they are the licensing authourity and independent of any cab firm, that is totally wrong

And, what is your point? Fact is Uber perform their own checks, including enhanced DBS checks.

Maybe you could look at your employer Filo, and the way they operate their business before you take the moral high ground.

We've been here before with you, you know nothing about my employer, or the way he operates, and you probably know very little regarding how taxis are regulated

You'd be surprised what I know. I've been in your taxi on more than one occasion.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: not on facebook on September 24, 2017, 11:45:36 am
BST unless ism getting the wrong end of the stick here ,but once driverless cars are flowing out of car show rooms it will be driverless taxis aswell.

So with above in mind why will uber have full run of driverless taxis ?
Surely micks driverless taxi company with his fleet of 10 or so cabs aswell as rosso driverless cabs and filo will have a driverless cab of his own.

With no drivers surely anyone could add their banger to a driverless cab fleet > or do I miss something.

Take away the drivers ,no more rapes or accidents or over charging etc etc hence surely no strict controll will be needed as in hackney carriage .



Oslo

When driverless cars come in, they will be very expensive. The additional technology required will make them much more expensive than normal cars. But we will have to use them, because they will use the roads much more efficiently than human-driven cars. So journey times and pollution will be reduced.

But. Most people won't be able to afford a driverless car. So, the predictions are that we won't own our own cars - we'll effectively use driverless taxis for every trip. Dial a cab to go to work, go to see your mum, go out for the day.

That's Uber's business model. They want to have a monopoly or a near-monopoly in the cab business so that, when we all depend on cabs for EVERY trip, they are the only player in town.

Think about the economics (Frosty won't care about this because he saves a couple of quid today, but for the rest of us, this is VERY important.) Uber has attracted $8bn of finance and it is valued at $70bn. That's a lot more than either Ford or General Motors.

But it's never once made a profit! So how can it be so highly valued? It's precisely because the big money men who have poured money into itcan see the big picture that Frosty isn't interested in. The current low fares are loss-leaders. They are the entry drug to make us all dependent on Uber when the big play that I described comes to pass.

Now, I'm not against the technology. It has to come and it will come. But if it's going to come, it's vital that we don't have a single mega-company controlling the market. We need hundreds, maybe thousands of local competitors all around the world. In the meantime, every one of you who uses Uber is bringing the day a bit closer when you don't CHOOSE to use them, but are utterly dependent on them

I never took the cost of a driverless car into my way of thinking on the subject ,now you mention it's price things that you first posted now seem to stack up.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: not on facebook on September 24, 2017, 12:06:41 pm
Back to the uber taxi thing but there does seem to be a underlying issue with female passengers getting raped by its drivers  which I guess is the main reason why uber finds it's self stopped it's opperation today.

As a male you will or should be ok using uber on your own. But you certianly would not want your daughter or lass using it would you,

Before uber Iam sure that there was rapes by taxi drivers from hire taxi firms ,just that since uber the amount of rapes has gone up untoldfold by uber taxi drivers.

Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Filo on September 24, 2017, 12:13:26 pm
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off

The mini cab companies in Donny aren't exactly an example of how to run a good business.

And if you want to mention London cabbies, having lived there, many of them will deliberately take you on a longer route to inflate the fare. Or simply refuse to take you to your destination if they don't fancy going that way.

I've lived in London for 8 of the last 9 years and the only issue I've ever had with a black cab is that sometimes they never seem to be about when you need them.

If paying a few more quid for my taxi home means that one less unvetted driver gets to scare some young girl in the back of his uber then I'm fine with that.

Uber drivers are vetted. They all have enhanced checks.

And what makes you think all other London taxis are safe?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html%3famp#ampshare=https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html


TFL do not hold any records of uber drivers, as they are the licensing authourity and independent of any cab firm, that is totally wrong

And, what is your point? Fact is Uber perform their own checks, including enhanced DBS checks.

Maybe you could look at your employer Filo, and the way they operate their business before you take the moral high ground.

We've been here before with you, you know nothing about my employer, or the way he operates, and you probably know very little regarding how taxis are regulated

You'd be surprised what I know. I've been in your taxi on more than one occasion.

Like I said you talk b*llocks, you've come that one before and been proved wrong, you don't know who I work for or when I work
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 24, 2017, 12:15:42 pm
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off

The mini cab companies in Donny aren't exactly an example of how to run a good business.

And if you want to mention London cabbies, having lived there, many of them will deliberately take you on a longer route to inflate the fare. Or simply refuse to take you to your destination if they don't fancy going that way.

I've lived in London for 8 of the last 9 years and the only issue I've ever had with a black cab is that sometimes they never seem to be about when you need them.

If paying a few more quid for my taxi home means that one less unvetted driver gets to scare some young girl in the back of his uber then I'm fine with that.

Uber drivers are vetted. They all have enhanced checks.

And what makes you think all other London taxis are safe?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html%3famp#ampshare=https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html


TFL do not hold any records of uber drivers, as they are the licensing authourity and independent of any cab firm, that is totally wrong

And, what is your point? Fact is Uber perform their own checks, including enhanced DBS checks.

Maybe you could look at your employer Filo, and the way they operate their business before you take the moral high ground.

We've been here before with you, you know nothing about my employer, or the way he operates, and you probably know very little regarding how taxis are regulated

You'd be surprised what I know. I've been in your taxi on more than one occasion.

Like I said you talk b*llocks, you've come that one before and been proved wrong, you don't know who I work for or when I work

I think you need help, Filo.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on September 24, 2017, 01:32:03 pm
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off

The mini cab companies in Donny aren't exactly an example of how to run a good business.

And if you want to mention London cabbies, having lived there, many of them will deliberately take you on a longer route to inflate the fare. Or simply refuse to take you to your destination if they don't fancy going that way.

I've lived in London for 8 of the last 9 years and the only issue I've ever had with a black cab is that sometimes they never seem to be about when you need them.

If paying a few more quid for my taxi home means that one less unvetted driver gets to scare some young girl in the back of his uber then I'm fine with that.

Uber drivers are vetted. They all have enhanced checks.

And what makes you think all other London taxis are safe?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html%3famp#ampshare=https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html


TFL do not hold any records of uber drivers, as they are the licensing authourity and independent of any cab firm, that is totally wrong

And, what is your point? Fact is Uber perform their own checks, including enhanced DBS checks.

Maybe you could look at your employer Filo, and the way they operate their business before you take the moral high ground.

We've been here before with you, you know nothing about my employer, or the way he operates, and you probably know very little regarding how taxis are regulated

You'd be surprised what I know. I've been in your taxi on more than one occasion.

Like I said you talk b*llocks, you've come that one before and been proved wrong, you don't know who I work for or when I work

I think you need help, Filo.

I think he wants proof. But no doubt you'll change the subject. Again.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 24, 2017, 01:50:01 pm
Uber is bad, very bad, the flout licensing laws and are basically unregulated. Surge pricing should tell you all you need to know about this company

During the London terror incidents recently, London cabbies were offering free rides for people stranded, Uber used surge pricing to rip people off

The mini cab companies in Donny aren't exactly an example of how to run a good business.

And if you want to mention London cabbies, having lived there, many of them will deliberately take you on a longer route to inflate the fare. Or simply refuse to take you to your destination if they don't fancy going that way.

I've lived in London for 8 of the last 9 years and the only issue I've ever had with a black cab is that sometimes they never seem to be about when you need them.

If paying a few more quid for my taxi home means that one less unvetted driver gets to scare some young girl in the back of his uber then I'm fine with that.

Uber drivers are vetted. They all have enhanced checks.

And what makes you think all other London taxis are safe?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html%3famp#ampshare=https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/over-400-london-cab-drivers-charged-with-crimes-last-year-a3226396.html


TFL do not hold any records of uber drivers, as they are the licensing authourity and independent of any cab firm, that is totally wrong

And, what is your point? Fact is Uber perform their own checks, including enhanced DBS checks.

Maybe you could look at your employer Filo, and the way they operate their business before you take the moral high ground.

We've been here before with you, you know nothing about my employer, or the way he operates, and you probably know very little regarding how taxis are regulated

You'd be surprised what I know. I've been in your taxi on more than one occasion.

Like I said you talk b*llocks, you've come that one before and been proved wrong, you don't know who I work for or when I work

I think you need help, Filo.

I think he wants proof. But no doubt you'll change the subject. Again.

Proof I was in his taxi? How would you get that, exactly?
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Filo on September 24, 2017, 02:04:15 pm

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Proof I was in his taxi? How would you get that, exactly?

The name of the taxi company, the name the booking was made under, pick up and drop off point, days and times?

A couple of those will do, the system is easily checkable
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 24, 2017, 02:29:05 pm

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Proof I was in his taxi? How would you get that, exactly?

The name of the taxi company, the name the booking was made under, pick up and drop off point, days and times?

A couple of those will do, the system is easily checkable

I'll just consult my diary from about three years ago.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Filo on September 24, 2017, 02:58:34 pm

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Proof I was in his taxi? How would you get that, exactly?

The name of the taxi company, the name the booking was made under, pick up and drop off point, days and times?

A couple of those will do, the system is easily checkable

I'll just consult my diary from about three years ago.

Your full of shit
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 24, 2017, 02:59:00 pm

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Proof I was in his taxi? How would you get that, exactly?

The name of the taxi company, the name the booking was made under, pick up and drop off point, days and times?

A couple of those will do, the system is easily checkable

I'll just consult my diary from about three years ago.

Your full of shit

*You're
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on September 24, 2017, 03:59:30 pm

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Proof I was in his taxi? How would you get that, exactly?

The name of the taxi company, the name the booking was made under, pick up and drop off point, days and times?

A couple of those will do, the system is easily checkable

I'll just consult my diary from about three years ago.

You don't need to consult a diary to tell us the name of the taxi company you're so insistent that you know so well.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on September 24, 2017, 04:00:14 pm

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Proof I was in his taxi? How would you get that, exactly?

The name of the taxi company, the name the booking was made under, pick up and drop off point, days and times?

A couple of those will do, the system is easily checkable

I'll just consult my diary from about three years ago.

Your full of shit

*You're

Way to go to change the subject.

Mystic Glyn strikes again.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Filo on September 24, 2017, 09:28:03 pm
This is the last time a certain person claimed I'd picked them up

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=261341.msg686769#msg686769
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 24, 2017, 10:27:43 pm
This is the last time a certain person claimed I'd picked them up

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=261341.msg686769#msg686769


Carry on digging through the archives Filo. There's plenty more you're not sharing
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on September 24, 2017, 10:35:58 pm
This is the last time a certain person claimed I'd picked them up

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=261341.msg686769#msg686769


Carry on digging through the archives Filo. There's plenty more you're not sharing

Pot. Kettle. Grimy arse.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: MrFrost on September 24, 2017, 10:42:45 pm
This is the last time a certain person claimed I'd picked them up

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=261341.msg686769#msg686769


Carry on digging through the archives Filo. There's plenty more you're not sharing

Pot. Kettle. Grimy arse.

I think you need your POF fix.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: not on facebook on September 24, 2017, 11:00:54 pm
This is the last time a certain person claimed I'd picked them up

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=261341.msg686769#msg686769

There is only one thing that gets my goat on the internett and that is when a person try their best
to dig out another's ID  and personal details .

Mr filo choose the username filo to help him keep his ID and whatever personall data from whoever he felt the need .

Mr frost I have allways had you as one of the better apples ,but I can't get my head round that you have twice tried to dig out personal facts on mr filo .

I find it very  very disturbing to claim to know someone via what seems incorrect info or mind games or grasping at straws ,it's just not cricket or queensbury rules.

Mr frost let it go and give your head a slight wobble .

Only way I would be happy if some buggers true ID and personal details was splashed across the net is if they was a child toucher ,sex case or terrorist ,to which I like to think non of them are on here.



Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Bentley Bullet on September 24, 2017, 11:04:04 pm
I'm confused here. Is Filo and Glyn Wigerly the same person? Failing that I'm quite sure Filo is quite capable of dealing with his own argument.

Billy, sort your party out, will you!
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on September 24, 2017, 11:46:29 pm
This is the last time a certain person claimed I'd picked them up

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=261341.msg686769#msg686769


Carry on digging through the archives Filo. There's plenty more you're not sharing

Pot. Kettle. Grimy arse.

I think you need your POF fix.

You must go on there looking for men a lot then as I haven't been on there since I met my wife on it and that was well over three years ago.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on September 24, 2017, 11:49:33 pm
I'm confused here. Is Filo and Glyn Wigerly the same person? Failing that I'm quite sure Filo is quite capable of dealing with his own argument.

Billy, sort your party out, will you!

I couldn't give a flying one about fighting for Filo. I want Frosty to either spill the beans or shut the feck up about it because it just looks like he's all piss and wind as usual.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: albie on September 25, 2017, 12:17:23 am
Back to Uber, Ladeez and Gennelmen!

Interesting reasons given for turning down Uber, and the business model was not really an issue for TfL.
Uber can still revise their stance on the points raised while their appeal is in play.

The idea of setting up a city wide scheme might have some backers;
Now's the time for an employee-owned Uber | WIRED UK (https://www.wired.co.uk/article/transport-for-london-uber-ban-create-a-new-app)
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: not on facebook on September 25, 2017, 12:28:06 am
There is no way in 51.8 years that Glynn is filo or filo is Glynn BB,where did that assumption come from.

While iam at it what is POF ? is this some gibbleydoook internet twang that I have not got a grasp for  > that's a 10/4 rubber duck,do you copy>
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: not on facebook on September 25, 2017, 12:49:32 am
Back to Uber, Ladeez and Gennelmen!

Interesting reasons given for turning down Uber, and the business model was not really an issue for TfL.
Uber can still revise their stance on the points raised while their appeal is in play.

The idea of setting up a city wide scheme might have some backers;
Now's the time for an employee-owned Uber | WIRED UK (https://www.wired.co.uk/article/transport-for-london-uber-ban-create-a-new-app)

Uber was not reporting or logging  whatever crimes that was committed by their drivers in a correct fashion according to what the police say.

This is why uber are going to be blocked from operations it seems.there are numerous country's or city's across Europe that have all ready put a block on uber from operating in their regions.

So with the above I will not lose any sleep if uber go to the wall when you take into account how high up rape cases have happened by uber drivers picking off lone drunk women drivers.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: hoolahoop on September 25, 2017, 09:44:48 am
No
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: NickDRFC on September 25, 2017, 10:32:27 am
If this thread was a film, Mr Frost and Glyn Wigley /Filo would definitely start kissing after such a tense and dramatic build up 😘😂
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: not on facebook on September 25, 2017, 10:42:39 am
Saying that about uber if they are happy to put their house in order from what the police have issues with ,I can't see why they can't carry on running its opperation
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: not on facebook on September 25, 2017, 10:45:38 am
If this thread was a film, Mr Frost and Glyn Wigley /Filo would definitely start kissing after such a tense and dramatic build up 😘😂

Them three swapping spit will put me off me tea > I take it that you mean full on gob openers and not pecks
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: hoolahoop on September 25, 2017, 06:33:35 pm
Those of you who use Uber. I assume you understand their business model?

1) Play the "we're the friend of the punter who wants a cab - in fact we'll make prices so low that we won't make a profit for 5 years," card.

2) Drive as many taxi firm competitors out of business as they can.

3) In the meantime, invest shit loads in driverless car technology.

4) Be a monopoly business by 2030 when no drivers are needed.

5) Charge what the f**k you want...

This is a MASSIVE class war. What Uber plans is to put about 50 million drivers out of work across the world, and reap the profits for its investors. The cheap cab fares approach is just the initial skirmishes of that war.

Those of you who use Uber are the equivalent of those who used to blindly agree with what the Soviet Union said. You are blindly lapping up the product without thinking about the strategic position that powerful men are planning. We used to call the old Soviet lackeys "useful idiots". That's what Uber users are. Useful idiots who lap up cheap fares today, and don't give a moment's thoughtvas to what the implications will be in 10 years' time. 

 

Very similar to the Brexitears then Billy in that they are getting those that will suffer the most to blindly put their thumbs up to their cynical ploys to erode workers rights and grabbing power all for themselves.

Just like the Über business model it relies on those that it will affect the most to blithely make the rope and build the scaffolds that will later serve for their own  executions.
Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: silent majority on September 25, 2017, 06:48:26 pm
A very interesting article about Uber here, whether for or against;

http://www.londonreconnections.com/2017/understanding-uber-not-app/

Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: not on facebook on September 25, 2017, 07:56:49 pm
Well if owt it's about time that London black cabs woke up and smelt the coffee ,as they are by far more exspenive and have major issues of many drivers taking the piss by going on the longer route.

Title: Re: Uber > yes or no
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on September 25, 2017, 08:05:11 pm
London traffic is ridiculous. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of cabbies use their local knowledge and will go a way that's longer in milage but is quicker in time taken because it avoids the black spots for snarl-ups.