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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Dabby on December 13, 2017, 12:07:26 am
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https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/news/2017/december/ticket-information-for-rochdale-double/
Rovers face fellow Sky Bet League One side Rochdale twice in two different competitions over the Christmas and New Year period and supporters can take advantage of reduced ticket prices in each game.
Darren Ferguson’s side entertain the Dale at the Keepmoat Stadium in the league on Friday 29 December, before attention turns to the FA Cup third round on Saturday 6 January 2018.
Prices for the Sky Bet League One fixture are as follows: £10 for adults, £5 for concessions and £1 for 17 and under.
The prices for the FA Cup game are as follows: £15 for adults, £10 for concessions and £5 for 17 and under.
Tickets will go on sale at 12pm on Tuesday 12 December.
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I still think £15 is an excessive amount for the FA Cup game, even at the Third Round stage, when the lowest amount clubs can charge for that round is £10.
Good to see that prices have been slashed for the league game though.
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It's a good trade off making the league game a tenner...not for season ticket holders though.
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It's a good trade off making the league game a tenner...not for season ticket holders though.
An adult South Stand season ticket works out at 14.74 per game. Go into the ticket office and demand your 4.74 back as people will get in cheaper than you. That's the least you deserve.
Honestly, accept sometimes it's not all about you, and one cheap game will not cause you significant harm.
Signed
A Season ticket holder.
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Alright, calm down.
I'm not even bothered, just pointing it out. I'm glad the club are going with this price structure due to the successive games against the same opponent.
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Don’t seem to recall to many complaints when the Rovers charged £15 for the Scunthorpe FA Cup game.
COYR
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Anne ,will you be happy to pay £45 for a potential 4th round tie at Old Trafford, or will you be dining with the stars there at god knows how much.
Seem to remember a box for ten with a balcony and down the side was £13,000 for a cup game last year.
Forgot plus V.A.T.
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Price should be more for the cup as the away side gets a higher percentage of the receipts
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Fifteen quid isn't excessive for the cup game in my opinion.
People pay £20 for league game tickets and i don't see many complaints about that.
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It would take a lot of individual league game ticket offers to diminish the value of a ST.
Folks don't have much spare cash at this time of year so these prices are great. £15 for the FA Cup 3rd round isn't a bad price.
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The constant moaning about the cheka trade,fa cup,and league cup ticket prices, makes me wonder if the same people are the ones who moan about the player budget.
Cup runs can make it easier for the owners to fund this side of the club.
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The constant moaning about the cheka trade,fa cup,and league cup ticket prices, makes me wonder if the same people are the ones who moan about the player budget.
Cup runs can make it easier for the owners to fund this side of the club.
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The constant moaning about the cheka trade,fa cup,and league cup ticket prices, makes me wonder if the same people are the ones who moan about the player budget.
Cup runs can make it easier for the owners to fund this side of the club.
I think that when 90 odd percent of fans paid cash at a turnstile every week you never thought about it. Now a lot of fans roll up every week and just rip a ticket out of a book, it's not the same as paying. Then a cup game comes along and fans have to think about paying and look at what it costs them. Look at Bradford City's league gates and compare it it the cup attendences. I think that it was about 4,750 for the Plymouth game.
They have very cheap season tickets but most of their fans won't pay for the extra games. I live in Bradford and my mates are very disappointed that when they go to cup games the atmosphere is nowhere near as good.
Then of course you get the debacle over tickets when they played Chelsea away and every man and his dog wanted to go. Their arrangements that day were a farce.
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It should be easy with a data base,season tickets,members,and any other regular ticket purchases first. People who have purchased tickets for earlier rounds or over 2 league games, then a free for all for the I have always supported the team, but do not go to matches but want to go to this game.
Then you are being fair,and I think in the rare times we have had a more attractive game,in most cases the club have bent over backwards to make sure everyone who wanted a ticket got one.
Likewise with transport to the games,Paul and his gang have worked wonders.
Lets hope we have these problems this season.
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City have over 17,000 season ticket holders though. They panicked and on the Saturday that they went on sale people were queueing before midnight on the Friday. They also allowed someone with five or more books get five or more tickets. It was mayhem.
There were also bus loads of City fans setting off early Saturday morning for an away game down south unable to queue.
The club changed their policy after this and if I remember right held some back for some of those travelling to the away game.
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Clubs have to agree a ticket price, and if Dale say 15 or 20 then it is up to both clubs to sort it between them, as they share the profits so no good moaning
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Well this got out of hand.
Irony is, I was the person who questioned someone else's indignation when they said £15 was too much for the Scunny cup game, because it was (and still is) a fair price. I'm not moaning, I'm happy to pay that price for the Rochdale game and applaud the club's initiative for this and the league fixture. Didn't mean for it to come across otherwise.
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Buy a ticket for the League game and get the Cup game discounted?
That way it's inclusive of STH's?
Just a thought.
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I still think £15 is an excessive amount for the FA Cup game, even at the Third Round stage, when the lowest amount clubs can charge for that round is £10.
Good to see that prices have been slashed for the league game though.
Is it because in the FA cup both teams receive a % each, so they have to agree a price and £15 may be the minimum?
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I still think £15 is an excessive amount for the FA Cup game, even at the Third Round stage, when the lowest amount clubs can charge for that round is £10.
Good to see that prices have been slashed for the league game though.
Is it because in the FA cup both teams receive a % each, so they have to agree a price and £15 may be the minimum?
The minimum price is currently £10 for rounds 1 to 6. Both clubs and the FA have to agree.
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Anne ,will you be happy to pay £45 for a potential 4th round tie at Old Trafford, or will you be dining with the stars there at god knows how much.
Seem to remember a box for ten with a balcony and down the side was £13,000 for a cup game last year.
Forgot plus V.A.T.
Nope, it's an absolute disgrace that Derby fans are being charged that amount for the game in the 3rd Round as well.
It's complete profiteering.
The minimum price is there for a reason but it seems very, very few clubs have chosen to abide by it.
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I agree 100%,stupid but people pay it.
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I still think £15 is an excessive amount for the FA Cup game, even at the Third Round stage, when the lowest amount clubs can charge for that round is £10.
Good to see that prices have been slashed for the league game though.
Is it because in the FA cup both teams receive a % each, so they have to agree a price and £15 may be the minimum?
According to this article from FSF
The minimum price is currently £10 for rounds 1 to 6. Both clubs and the FA have to agree.
According to this article from the FSF, it is now the home club's discretion what to charge.
http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/The-price-of-change-new-FA-Cup-rule-stings-home-and-away-fans
(ii) Competition Proper
Immediately after the draw is known, the Club playing at home shall decide on the prices of admission, subject to a minimum price of £10.00 for all spectators other than concessions. The away Club’s spectators can only be charged more than the home Club’s spectators if mutually agreed by both Clubs.
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I still think £15 is an excessive amount for the FA Cup game, even at the Third Round stage, when the lowest amount clubs can charge for that round is £10.
Good to see that prices have been slashed for the league game though.
Is it because in the FA cup both teams receive a % each, so they have to agree a price and £15 may be the minimum?
According to this article from FSF
The minimum price is currently £10 for rounds 1 to 6. Both clubs and the FA have to agree.
According to this article from the FSF, it is now the home club's discretion what to charge.
http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/The-price-of-change-new-FA-Cup-rule-stings-home-and-away-fans
(ii) Competition Proper
Immediately after the draw is known, the Club playing at home shall decide on the prices of admission, subject to a minimum price of £10.00 for all spectators other than concessions. The away Club’s spectators can only be charged more than the home Club’s spectators if mutually agreed by both Clubs.
The minimum price still applies though.
Strangely enough we tabled this very item at last weeks NC meet because of other issues surrounding the FA Cup, which will become apparent over the next few months, yet despite discussing it it still slipped my mind!
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This is going to read a little contradictory. It’s good to have affordable ticketing over this period and cup games. Saying that I do feel a little aggrieved that I’m a season ticket holder and will be paying more than someone who might just be bored over xmas and fancies a game.
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This is going to read a little contradictory. It’s good to have affordable ticketing over this period and cup games. Saying that I do feel a little aggrieved that I’m a season ticket holder and will be paying more than someone who might just be bored over xmas and fancies a game.
Yes but if that same person likes what he or she sees, the next game they pay for at full price would then mean their average payment is more than that for ST holders, and they are not guaranteed to sit in a regular place with their mates etc etc etc..
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One of the (few) benefits of getting older is that £10 per game is still more than i pay per game for my seniors season ticket.
However, even if i was paying the standard adult rate i would still welcome the initiative in the hope that it encouraged people to come to more matches.
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Can't believe people are f**king whinging about £4 difference. Over the course of the season you'll get that back several times over having stumped up for your season ticket. Christ, some people need to get a grip.
Moan when there's nobody turning up, moan when the club try to get people through the door. Jesus wept.
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Can't believe people are f**king whinging about £4 difference. Over the course of the season you'll get that back several times over having stumped up for your season ticket. Christ, some people need to get a grip.
Moan when there's nobody turning up, moan when the club try to get people through the door. Jesus wept.
I know what you're saying. However, purely playing devil's advocate, do you reckon some people test the club's resolve knowing that they're likely to put a reduced offer out and it's just a case of who blinks first?
I know there'll be a school of thought that anyone who wants to go will buy a ticket regardless, but it is a possibility.
RE: Trying to get people through the door. a) Attendances seem to have been ok / good thus far I think. They usually top 7,000 and this is in a division where away support can be unreliable e.g. Walsall where we could take 1,000 but they only bring 300 up here.
b) isn't it "Rovers utopia" that they never have to put on any offer ever again because we're at capacity? For a town this size...
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I would think that 99% of season ticket holders at the Rovers just want as many supporters at cup games as possible, it is part of supporting the club.
I do anyway.
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I would think that 99% of season ticket holders at the Rovers just want as many supporters at cup games as possible, it is part of supporting the club.
I do anyway.
I still think the Rochdale FA Cup game is over-priced considering the product on offer.
There will be much worse prices about for games in the same round, but at a stage so far away from Wembley, clubs shouldn't be breaking the £10 Minimum threshold - there's no reason to.
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Sorry I disagree, a FA Cup 3rd round tie against a club in the same division is still less than a regular league fixture..
In comparison, £15 is fair..
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Sorry I disagree, a FA Cup 3rd round tie against a club in the same division is still less than a regular league fixture..
In comparison, £15 is fair..
In comparison between the two, then possibly you're right.
Then again, I think £15 would be an acceptable price for League One games and anything above that is starting to take the pee.
About 10 years ago, I think the average price in League One was about £18-£20. Now, it must be something closer to £23-£25.
For the product on offer, I feel this is too high.
If prices keep going the same way, then I think it's only a matter of time before attendances fall through the floor, especially as nowadays there's more competition than ever from other forms of entertainment (cinemas, PS4s, Xboxs, etc).
That said, I think lower division clubs like ourselves have started to realise over the last few years that we can't bump up prices too much, because there is a point where fans will walk away and do other stuff.
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Our home fans per game is up this season.
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Our home fans per game is up this season.
But considerably down on our Championship days!
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Our home fans per game is up this season.
But considerably down on our Championship days!
As you would expect.
Standard of opposition, name of opposition clubs and players.
Novelty of being in the Championship after 50 years away.
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Our home fans per game is up this season.
But considerably down on our Championship days!
Partly, I agree.
But ticket prices haven't come down from the Championship days when just about everything else has.
I'm no expert, but I bet third and fourth tier clubs in any other Western European country aren't paying the equivalent of what we're doing.
Football should be more affordable for everyone.
As you would expect.
Standard of opposition, name of opposition clubs and players.
Novelty of being in the Championship after 50 years away.
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Most clubs at level 3 in western Europe aren't professional, I wouldn't have thought.
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I bought my ticket for the Rochdale FA Cup game yesterday. Ironically as a STH the discounted Rochdale League game is probably going to be the first home League game I'll miss this season. Never been a fan of Friday night games, although I can understand why we're doing it.
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Most clubs at level 3 in western Europe aren't professional, I wouldn't have thought.
It's still the third tier, being 'professional' doesn't necessarily make the product any better.
I think the biggest problem in this country is because rip-off ticket prices have occurred over such a long and sustained period of time, especially at top levels, lower clubs have followed suit and fans have generally become accustomed to inflated prices across the board, and ultimately accepted them at face value.
In France, for example, Monaco's tickets for their supposedly unattractive games against teams like Metz, Amiens, Dijon, Guingamp, etc, start at 5 Euros for Adults.
In England, there's a cap at £30 for away fans at Premier League game!
Now I'm sure the Premier League clubs, with vast amounts of extra money and revenue compared to Ligue 1 clubs, could afford to not charge an amount more than six times that of one of the top clubs in France.
The product is certainly not six times better than Ligue 1, either.
It's a shame the Government, FA and any legislative body with a bit of clout can't step in and put a reasonable cap on ticket prices, to bring them in line with what our friends are paying on the continent.
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Most clubs at level 3 in western Europe aren't professional, I wouldn't have thought.
It's still the third tier, being 'professional' doesn't necessarily make the product any better.
No. But semi-pro football tends to be cheaper as a general rule.
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Football admission in this country is ridiculously inflated anyway. In the Czech Republic - or Czechia, if you prefer - you can watch a Sparta Prague game for about £4.20. And we all know the way German football works (assuming you don't buy through a tout of course which can cost a small fortune).
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Redj you can also get a beer for 70p (sometimes cheaper) and a three course meal for your £4.20 so this comparison doesn't really stack up.
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Not really sure how that does anything to counter my point...
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Cost of living?
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Sorry I disagree, a FA Cup 3rd round tie against a club in the same division is still less than a regular league fixture..
In comparison, £15 is fair..
I'm sure when Rovers left OBV, the 'on the gate' price of an adult standing on the pop side was £16.
Eleven years on; better facilities, similar standard of football etc etc
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Cost of living?
Well maybe so, but the cost of living in Germany isn't massively different to ours and they don't charge a fortune for football tickets.
But even so, £4.20 to watch the best football team in the country?
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Anne - comparing to the third tier level of any other league in Europe (or anywhere) isn't a fair comparison to make because the standard isn't as good. Most by that level aren't professional, the English game is just a different beast to most other countries in terms of depth and breadth.
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Anne - comparing to the third tier level of any other league in Europe (or anywhere) isn't a fair comparison to make because the standard isn't as good. Most by that level aren't professional, the English game is just a different beast to most other countries in terms of depth and breadth.
And the fact we've gradually been ripped off. A little increase here and there, talk of better facilities adds a little bit more. Before you know it £26 in the third tier
It isn't right!
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Anne - comparing to the third tier level of any other league in Europe (or anywhere) isn't a fair comparison to make because the standard isn't as good. Most by that level aren't professional, the English game is just a different beast to most other countries in terms of depth and breadth.
If the English game is that good, why have we not come anywhere close to winning a major international mens tournament in the last 20 years?
Germany, as poor as their standard must be, are clearly doing something right if they keep getting to the final four of major international tournaments.
I think the word 'professional' is a little bit ambiguous as training more times a week that part-time players and employing a guy on a decent wage who tells players how many bits of fruit and veg they should eat each week, doesn't necessarily make the end product any better.
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May not make the end product better but I'd bet it increases the costs they have to cover.
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Is it £10 for Rochdale fans as well?
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Also £15 showed no interest in the second round for a more appealing fixture against one of our local rivals. Having said that from a profit perspective there will be probably slightly less tickets sold but the extra fiver will make more than the tenner tickets in my opinion
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Third round of the FA Cup for £15 is a snip in my opinion, fellow league opposition or not. No league pressure & the added edge of 90 minutes of cup football with the potential to make round four & more revenue for the club. Well done to the club.
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Anne - comparing to the third tier level of any other league in Europe (or anywhere) isn't a fair comparison to make because the standard isn't as good. Most by that level aren't professional, the English game is just a different beast to most other countries in terms of depth and breadth.
If the English game is that good, why have we not come anywhere close to winning a major international mens tournament in the last 20 years?
Germany, as poor as their standard must be, are clearly doing something right if they keep getting to the final four of major international tournaments.
I think the word 'professional' is a little bit ambiguous as training more times a week that part-time players and employing a guy on a decent wage who tells players how many bits of fruit and veg they should eat each week, doesn't necessarily make the end product any better.
He says quite clearly that he’s referring to the depth rather than the quality at the top. Having a better third division than our counterparts is obviously not going to turn us into World Cup winners!
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Anne - comparing to the third tier level of any other league in Europe (or anywhere) isn't a fair comparison to make because the standard isn't as good. Most by that level aren't professional, the English game is just a different beast to most other countries in terms of depth and breadth.
If the English game is that good, why have we not come anywhere close to winning a major international mens tournament in the last 20 years?
Germany, as poor as their standard must be, are clearly doing something right if they keep getting to the final four of major international tournaments.
I think the word 'professional' is a little bit ambiguous as training more times a week that part-time players and employing a guy on a decent wage who tells players how many bits of fruit and veg they should eat each week, doesn't necessarily make the end product any better.
Nick's said it, but yes if you think the standard of League One has any bearing whatsoever on whether or not England can win the World Cup then I don't know what to tell you. Obviously the events of Doncaster v Oldham have as much bearing on the national team as my Christmas dinner vegetable preferences do.
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Sorry I disagree, a FA Cup 3rd round tie against a club in the same division is still less than a regular league fixture..
In comparison, £15 is fair..
In comparison between the two, then possibly you're right.
Then again, I think £15 would be an acceptable price for League One games and anything above that is starting to take the pee.
About 10 years ago, I think the average price in League One was about £18-£20. Now, it must be something closer to £23-£25.
For the product on offer, I feel this is too high.
If prices keep going the same way, then I think it's only a matter of time before attendances fall through the floor, especially as nowadays there's more competition than ever from other forms of entertainment (cinemas, PS4s, Xboxs, etc).
That said, I think lower division clubs like ourselves have started to realise over the last few years that we can't bump up prices too much, because there is a point where fans will walk away and do other stuff.
Anne If you don't like the price then stay at home job done
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Anne - comparing to the third tier level of any other league in Europe (or anywhere) isn't a fair comparison to make because the standard isn't as good. Most by that level aren't professional, the English game is just a different beast to most other countries in terms of depth and breadth.
If the English game is that good, why have we not come anywhere close to winning a major international mens tournament in the last 20 years?
Germany, as poor as their standard must be, are clearly doing something right if they keep getting to the final four of major international tournaments.
I think the word 'professional' is a little bit ambiguous as training more times a week that part-time players and employing a guy on a decent wage who tells players how many bits of fruit and veg they should eat each week, doesn't necessarily make the end product any better.
And how many of the last World Cup winning team actually play in Germany? Genuine question as I have no idea
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Anne - comparing to the third tier level of any other league in Europe (or anywhere) isn't a fair comparison to make because the standard isn't as good. Most by that level aren't professional, the English game is just a different beast to most other countries in terms of depth and breadth.
If the English game is that good, why have we not come anywhere close to winning a major international mens tournament in the last 20 years?
Germany, as poor as their standard must be, are clearly doing something right if they keep getting to the final four of major international tournaments.
I think the word 'professional' is a little bit ambiguous as training more times a week that part-time players and employing a guy on a decent wage who tells players how many bits of fruit and veg they should eat each week, doesn't necessarily make the end product any better.
And how many of the last World Cup winning team actually play in Germany? Genuine question as I have no idea
Of the 23 man squad that won the 2014 World Cup, 16 were playing in the Bundesliga. Of the rest, four were playing in the Premier League, two in Serie A and one in La Liga.
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Thank you TRB