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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: BillyStubbsTears on December 23, 2017, 10:57:18 pm
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As I’ve been saying. Rocky start. And since then, decent upper-mid table form. 1.40 points per game since mid September.
Context: In O’Driscoll’s first season, he was in charge for 39 games. We averaged 1.41 points per game.
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Can't be right..
Ferguson isn't capable of achieving anything better than 1 ppg
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I'm not taking sides , but that's not even comparable 3 months compared to a full season.
Ridiculous stats.
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As I’ve been saying. Rocky start. And since then, decent upper-mid table form. 1.40 points per game since mid September.
Context: In O’Driscoll’s first season, he was in charge for 39 games. We averaged 1.41 points per game.
Can't be right..
Ferguson isn't capable of achieving anything better than 1 ppg
I'm not taking sides , but that's not even comparable 3 months compared to a full season.
Ridiculous stats.
Nothing controversial in your statement of fact BST but the peanut gallery appear to want to ignore or downplay the truth for some reason.
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“The clown is incapable of ending a bad run”.
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When these statements get proven wrong they just find other ones to come out with.
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The problem with reminding people of their statements after a win/good run is they come back at you after a loss/bad run.
Makes for a pretty depressing forum at times. Everyone is so desperate to be proven right, it’s boring.
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It's the hope that gets you.
A couple of good January signings and we could make a play off push.
Or, no-one comes in and we struggle in the bottom half.
Football
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It was a good win yesterday and there has been some other good performances recently, without question. We have also moved up the table.
It is equally fair to say that Wimbledon still have a game in hand and if for instance they draw this game, rather than even win, we are then only three points away from the relegation places, with everyone having played the same games.
It is a tight league so good news we are piecing some results together now we are in the second half of the season. Long may it continue.
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Great post Mush, first grown-up statement on this thread. The stats last week show one thing, this week they show us another. As does the league table, we've moved up some places, next week we could move down some places. It's all still in the balance.
My position, as for a while, has been we've got a talented group of player who we (the manager) doesn't always get the best out of. There were glimpses of a more complete performance yesterday which I'm very glad to see.
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Good to see us dig in and get a victory and what about Lawlor he is doing well for me, if we can follow it up with two home wins, maybe it will shut the moaners up.
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The problem with reminding people of their statements after a win/good run is they come back at you after a loss/bad run.
Makes for a pretty depressing forum at times. Everyone is so desperate to be proven right, it’s boring.
I wasn't attempting to be proven right or remind people of their statements
My point was there are lots on here that no matter what happens they won't be happy with Ferguson. So when they keep going on about he can't end a poor run or he can't get a better ratio than 1ppg.
Once this gets proven incorrect they will just forget all about this and just being out another statement negative about him.
Everyone on here has said they'd be happy with midtable this season, and we're there at the halfway point so I would've thought everyone would be happy for xmas.
The fact that we are midtable means we are only a few points off the bottom and only a few points off the top.
Not many people talking about the top though
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As I’ve been saying. Rocky start. And since then, decent upper-mid table form. 1.40 points per game since mid September.
Context: In O’Driscoll’s first season, he was in charge for 39 games. We averaged 1.41 points per game.
Can't be right..
Ferguson isn't capable of achieving anything better than 1 ppg
I'm not taking sides , but that's not even comparable 3 months compared to a full season.
Ridiculous stats.
Nothing controversial in your statement of fact BST but the peanut gallery appear to want to ignore or downplay the truth for some reason.
Syd I think you might find that Dickos is actually agreeing with BST and is taking the proverbial 🎅
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As I’ve been saying. Rocky start. And since then, decent upper-mid table form. 1.40 points per game since mid September.
Context: In O’Driscoll’s first season, he was in charge for 39 games. We averaged 1.41 points per game.
Can't be right..
Ferguson isn't capable of achieving anything better than 1 ppg
I'm not taking sides , but that's not even comparable 3 months compared to a full season.
Ridiculous stats.
Nothing controversial in your statement of fact BST but the peanut gallery appear to want to ignore or downplay the truth for some reason.
Syd I think you might find that Dickos is actually agreeing with BST and is taking the proverbial 🎅
A classic case of reading who the poster is, rather than reading and digesting the post
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I’m certainly not interested in this being an argument to win. I’m just pointing out the facts. We were in dreadful form at the start of the season. We’ve been in decent form for the past 3 months.
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All fine margins. If their disallowed late ‘goal’ had been allowed, we would have had seven points from our last seven league games.
Bigger picture is that we have marginally improved our form as the season has progressed and performances while erratic, have become a little more consistent. Still irritating failures of concentration especially late in games, but some signs of more consistently good performances.
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Interesting how these fine margins are ok to be mentioned when we win but when we lose with goals in injury time and penalties that shouldn't be given, and people say if those goals hadn't have gone in we'd be 6th. The response is well they did go in didn't they.
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Give it a rest Dickos.
It's the 2nd league win since 28th Oct. Enjoy it.
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Only 2 defeats in this period also.
One against the best side in the league by a mile and one a 95th minute winner.
Not sure what it's going to take for some people to be able to get rid of their negativity
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Do you think the answer might be a sustained run of form to get us in a more comfortable position?
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Dickos. Have a pint, spend time with your kids, see some elderly relatives, god knows....just lighten up a bit comrade!
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As billy has suggested I think we're in the middle of a good bit of form right now.
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As billy has suggested I think we're in the middle of a good bit of form right now.
I'll give you a big clue here dickos, the stats BST points out don't show 'a good bit form'*, they show average form and equate to an average finish at the end of the season, presuming he's excluded the first 8 games of the season.
*just think about it logically, how can 2 wins in 2 months be good form?
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It's 7 games, and we've only lost 2 as I said, we've also gone from 1 point above relegation to 4 points and got within a point of the top half.
1.4 points per game is good form, over a season it would get you within a whisker of the playoffs
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All fine margins. If their disallowed late ‘goal’ had been allowed, we would have had seven points from our last seven league games.
Bigger picture is that we have marginally improved our form as the season has progressed and performances while erratic, have become a little more consistent. Still irritating failures of concentration especially late in games, but some signs of more consistently good performances.
First 8 games of the season. 6 points. 0.75 ppg. Equal to 35 points over a season. Bottom of the table form.
Last 15 games. 21 points. 1.40 ppg. 64-65 points over a full season. Equal to about 10th place.
I’d say that’s a bit more than a marginal improvement, wouldn’t you? Especially since we’ve played 5 of the current top 6 and 9 of the current top 11 in the latter run.
Personally, I’m quite impressed by how Ferguson has turned things around after the first six weeks of the season.
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As I’ve been saying. Rocky start. And since then, decent upper-mid table form. 1.40 points per game since mid September.
Context: In O’Driscoll’s first season, he was in charge for 39 games. We averaged 1.41 points per game.
Can't be right..
Ferguson isn't capable of achieving anything better than 1 ppg
I'm not taking sides , but that's not even comparable 3 months compared to a full season.
Ridiculous stats.
Nothing controversial in your statement of fact BST but the peanut gallery appear to want to ignore or downplay the truth for some reason.
Syd I think you might find that Dickos is actually agreeing with BST and is taking the proverbial 🎅
A classic case of reading who the poster is, rather than reading and digesting the post
Filo is your point levelled at my comment?
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21 points from 15 games
that's ether won 6 drawn 3 lost 7
or won 5 drawn 6 lost 5
which is mid table form
don't know what the stats say but excluding the two Bank of England or to be more accurate Bank of Lancashire (ringers) in this league
so many matches in this league are single goal affairs
over the last month we have had seismic movement at the bottom of this league (the no hopers have suddenly got hope) could BST or anyone tell us
how many points Oldham Gillingham and Plymouth have got
and how many the droppers Fleetwood Bristol rovers MK dons afc wimbledon and Rochdale have got (probably not a lot)
would give us a good comparison
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As I’ve been saying. Rocky start. And since then, decent upper-mid table form. 1.40 points per game since mid September.
Context: In O’Driscoll’s first season, he was in charge for 39 games. We averaged 1.41 points per game.
Can't be right..
Ferguson isn't capable of achieving anything better than 1 ppg
I'm not taking sides , but that's not even comparable 3 months compared to a full season.
Ridiculous stats.
Nothing controversial in your statement of fact BST but the peanut gallery appear to want to ignore or downplay the truth for some reason.
Syd I think you might find that Dickos is actually agreeing with BST and is taking the proverbial 🎅
A classic case of reading who the poster is, rather than reading and digesting the post
Filo is your point levelled at my comment?
No, it's pointing out that sometimes when people disagree all the time, they tend to disagree with the person, rather than the post. I was referring to the previous post in the thread, not yours
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It's worth also pointing out that if we take the same number of points from the next 23 games we will finish on 54, which most seasons would ensure safety.
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It's worth also pointing out that if we take the same number of points from the next 23 games we will finish on 54, which most seasons would ensure safety.
on the point of pointing out just want to "point out" the fate of rovers last two opponents on Saturday
oxford unlucky 7-0 loss at home to Wigan after scraping it over Rovers
and Oldham 4-1 hammering a mighty Plymouth after drawing here
trying to predict results & extrapolating Rovers strength on those 2 results and you could argue Rovers are doomed earlier in the season Bradford consistently beat a good team and lost to a poor one
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21 points from 15 games
that's ether won 6 drawn 3 lost 7
or won 5 drawn 6 lost 5
which is mid table form
don't know what the stats say but excluding the two Bank of England or to be more accurate Bank of Lancashire (ringers) in this league
so many matches in this league are single goal affairs
over the last month we have had seismic movement at the bottom of this league (the no hopers have suddenly got hope) could BST or anyone tell us
how many points Oldham Gillingham and Plymouth have got
and how many the droppers Fleetwood Bristol rovers MK dons afc wimbledon and Rochdale have got (probably not a lot)
would give us a good comparison
21 points from 15 games
that's ether won 6 drawn 3 lost 7
or won 5 drawn 6 lost 5
which is mid table form
don't know what the stats say but excluding the two Bank of England or to be more accurate Bank of Lancashire (ringers) in this league
so many matches in this league are single goal affairs
over the last month we have had seismic movement at the bottom of this league (the no hopers have suddenly got hope) could BST or anyone tell us
how many points Oldham Gillingham and Plymouth have got
and how many the droppers Fleetwood Bristol rovers MK dons afc wimbledon and Rochdale have got (probably not a lot)
would give us a good comparison
Coleman.
21 points in 15 games form over a whole season would have put you in:
11th place in L1 in 2016/17
13th place in 2015/16
8th place in 2014/15
9th place in 2013/14
13th place in 2012/13
10th place in 2011/12
10th place in 2010/11
Which supports what I’ve been saying for a few weeks. Since a rocky first 6 weeks, we’ve been in decent upper-mid table form.
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The league is all the place this year. We're 4 points above relegation, but we're also 14th. I'm not worried.
Think it was DRNaith who said in the summer, "people are happy finishing mid table, but only if we win every game to get there".
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Apologies if I miss any of the subliminal messages contained in any of the posts but the information contained in the current league table show that after a very shaky start and we are now in a much better position, yes maybe only a few points above the drop zone but with a buffer of 6 teams below us.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/leagueonefootball/table
If you look at the teams around us over the past 5 games there are not that many with any better averages or the wherewithal to suddenly improve. A win over Northampton tomorrow for me (despite their position) will show we are very capable of finishing mid table for which I for one would take as I have said staying up is the name of the game and any better is a bonus. Northampton have beaten Walsall and drawn with Blackburn, no mean feat from near bottom of the table.
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As billy has suggested I think we're in the middle of a good bit of form right now.
I'll give you a big clue here dickos, the stats BST points out don't show 'a good bit form'*, they show average form and equate to an average finish at the end of the season, presuming he's excluded the first 8 games of the season.
*just think about it logically, how can 2 wins in 2 months be good form?
Just don't bother this Dickos character is an absolute cretin. Oh who's always right
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As billy has suggested I think we're in the middle of a good bit of form right now.
I'll give you a big clue here dickos, the stats BST points out don't show 'a good bit form'*, they show average form and equate to an average finish at the end of the season, presuming he's excluded the first 8 games of the season.
*just think about it logically, how can 2 wins in 2 months be good form?
Just don't bother this Dickos character is an absolute cretin. Oh who's always right
Ha ha
Get a grip man.
It's not my fault the victory on Saturday ruined your xmas
Clown
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You're ruining my Christmas. Fergie rimmer
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And Goodwill to all men!
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Here, here. I shall be the bigger man ( which is what his wife says ) and end this "it's all about me" nonsense.
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Here, here. I shall be the bigger man ( which is what his wife says ) and end this "it's all about me" nonsense.
Nah, my wife thinks your a bellend aswell
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Zzz....sorry did someone say something. Ah no it was just a tumbleweed blowing by.
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f**k me, didn't you lot have anything better to do on Christmas day afternoon??
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As I’ve been saying. Rocky start. And since then, decent upper-mid table form. 1.40 points per game since mid September.
Context: In O’Driscoll’s first season, he was in charge for 39 games. We averaged 1.41 points per game.
Can't be right..
Ferguson isn't capable of achieving anything better than 1 ppg
I'm not taking sides , but that's not even comparable 3 months compared to a full season.
Ridiculous stats.
Nothing controversial in your statement of fact BST but the peanut gallery appear to want to ignore or downplay the truth for some reason.
Syd I think you might find that Dickos is actually agreeing with BST and is taking the proverbial 🎅
A classic case of reading who the poster is, rather than reading and digesting the post
Filo is your point levelled at my comment?
No, it's pointing out that sometimes when people disagree all the time, they tend to disagree with the person, rather than the post. I was referring to the previous post in the thread, not yours
thank you
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As billy has suggested I think we're in the middle of a good bit of form right now.
I'll give you a big clue here dickos, the stats BST points out don't show 'a good bit form'*, they show average form and equate to an average finish at the end of the season, presuming he's excluded the first 8 games of the season.
*just think about it logically, how can 2 wins in 2 months be good form?
Are we in a good bit of form yet? Or are there still excuses to why we're winning every week?
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So the record now is 27 points from the last 17 games. That’s play-off form for getting in for half a season.
Keep up that form till May and we end up on 66 points. Squeeze another couple of wins out and we might even be dark horses for the play offs.
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I hope we do make the play offs Billy.
I had a back to back promotion bet halfway through last season and got 12/1.
We do well in playoff matches.
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It really now depends on whether Fergie gets the backing to push on.
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Fergie says he is going sort loans and Jordan out ASAP then at the end of the of the window may look to add some extra bodies