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Title: Very good..
Post by: Copps is Magic on December 26, 2017, 04:53:34 pm
..nay, I'm going to bring out an excellent. Copps, Rowe, and May in particular with a noticeable difference between what May and Marquis offered the team today (and their body language). 13th, 8 off the play-offs, 7 off the drop. We're Donny Rovers, we know who we are.
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Post by: Alan Southstand on December 26, 2017, 04:56:08 pm
First back to back wins this season?
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Post by: Chris Black come back on December 26, 2017, 05:19:11 pm
Much better again. Four at back worked a great today.
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Post by: pib on December 26, 2017, 05:21:00 pm
Slow start but towards the end of the first half was much better, then 2nd half we controlled it really well.

Hope we can keep it up! Much better.

Thought Marquis was very good today other than his finishing. Looked desperate for a goal but his all round play and effort was superb.
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Post by: NickDRFC on December 26, 2017, 05:27:39 pm
Thought we played very well, an excellent team performance. Defence never really looked troubled and Mason & Garrett got forward reasonably well. Rowe and Copps controlled things in midfield. Not sure how May got man of the match, he put a lot of effort in but there were several chances missed and a few times when he lacked quality when we were in good positions. Marquis worked hard as well but god can he be frustrating - lets his frustration get the better of him far too often, and his touch was terrible too many times in good positions. First time I've seen Beestin and thought both he and Blair did well when coming on.

Onwards and upwards.
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Post by: DonnyOsmond on December 26, 2017, 05:31:01 pm
Whiteman was solid too.
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Post by: Chris Black come back on December 26, 2017, 05:32:26 pm
Not sure about our peno though...
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Post by: mushRTID on December 26, 2017, 05:36:34 pm
We need to be cautious as they were the worst side to visit in a long time.

But, we are clearly improving and it was a good performance. On our day I still think we’ve playoff potential. We’re certainly streets ahead of that shower that visited today.
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Post by: Chris Black come back on December 26, 2017, 05:38:21 pm
They just didn’t look bothered really.
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Post by: anne honemous on December 26, 2017, 05:42:09 pm
The first 30 minutes were a bit of a non event with both teams having spells of pressure without really doing much more.

Once we got the goal and upped the ante, I thought our class showed and we more than deserved to win. Everything about our performance was positive after 30+ minutes and apart from a 10 minute spell early in the second half where they had more of the ball, we always looked the better team.

The most positive thing is Northampton are a team down there and what won it for us was the fact our hunger was much, much superior to their hunger.

Even with a lazy Marquis, we still looked dangerous.

We shouldn't get carried away as they were crap and we've got plenty of flaws which need to be addressed in January, but we should certainly be proud of the fact we're one step closer to safety.

30 down, 20 to go... bring on Rochdale!
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Post by: albie on December 26, 2017, 05:47:23 pm
Fergie post match interview;
https://is.gd/TV2bZz

Doesn't really say much.
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Post by: MachoMadness on December 26, 2017, 05:47:48 pm
If that’s the standard of teams down at the bottom then we shouldn’t need to worry about relegation again. Looked good today, admittedly against very poor opposition but we have lost to poor teams this season as well so a definite improvement. Good to get some goals and a clean sheet.
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Post by: German Rover on December 26, 2017, 05:53:12 pm
I personally thought marquis was crap today. There was a lot of movement to be seen making movement. He seemed to stop dead every time he received the ball and would have had a hat trick if he had put his foot through the ball with the goal open for him. He also needs to stop this paddy when it doesn't go for him, looking up to the sky like Andy Williams is famous for. At least once it cost us as the ball was played through, and the ball ended up with him anyway. Head down ready to go could have resulted in a chance on goal.

We were too slow today. If we I'd played with pace we could have put 6 or 7 past them today. If we keep giving teams time to get themselves squared when we have the ball wide, better teams will lap it up.
Title: Re: Very good..
Post by: i_ateallthepies on December 26, 2017, 05:53:51 pm
A lazy Marquis?, are you havin' a laugh?
Title: Re: Very good..
Post by: Copps is Magic on December 26, 2017, 05:54:56 pm
Thought Marquis was very good today other than his finishing. Looked desperate for a goal but his all round play and effort was superb.

Well, we saw things very differently then.

What typified it for me in terms of Marquis today was when May passed that through ball to him - he gave it a first glance, then threw his head back in anger thinking it wasn't going to reach him. Then a second or so later he suddenly thought 'better give that a second look' and lo and behold it arrived at his feet.

That exemplified his attitude throughout the game. I thought May held the ball up much better and linked up well. Both lacking confidence to shoot.
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Post by: dickos1 on December 26, 2017, 05:57:01 pm
I personally thought marquis was crap today. There was a lot of movement to be seen making movement. He seemed to stop dead every time he received the ball and would have had a hat trick if he had put his foot through the ball with the goal open for him. He also needs to stop this paddy when it doesn't go for him, looking up to the sky like Andy Williams is famous for. At least once it cost us as the ball was played through, and the ball ended up with him anyway. Head down ready to go could have resulted in a chance on goal.

We were too slow today. If we I'd played with pace we could have put 6 or 7 past them today. If we keep giving teams time to get themselves squared when we have the ball wide, better teams will lap it up.

We won 3-0 and you've written 17 lines of negative comments
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Post by: tonybuk86 on December 26, 2017, 05:59:03 pm
I also think Marquis did good today, we played well as a team, as well we looked hungry when we attacked them. With this league so open this year a loss could put us back down, but let's hope this means a unbeaten run now. Up the Rovers!
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on December 26, 2017, 06:09:35 pm
Certainly a good win. Copps made a difference and Whiteman had an excellent game holding things together in the middle. Back 4 solid with Lawlor having very little to do.

Without mentioning any other players, I still think there's more in the bank. The signs are good and with a little more desire and determination, we could still be a force to be reckoned with.
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Post by: drfchound on December 26, 2017, 06:15:52 pm
I also think Marquis did good today, we played well as a team, as well we looked hungry when we attacked them. With this league so open this year a loss could put us back down, but let's hope this means a unbeaten run now. Up the Rovers!





Careful with that comment about a loss putting us back down.
Someone’s negative ometer will click in.

A good win against our worst opponents of the season, with the worst goal difference in the division.
It could easily have been five or six nil.

Unlike last week, we are now genuinely mid table, eight points off the top six and seven out of the bottom four.

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Post by: graingrover on December 26, 2017, 06:16:26 pm
The only advantage of I follow is I can watch the match then replay the whole 90 minutes so he who called Marquis' performance was clearly not only not watching the game twice but spent the whole match in the bogs with constipation today.
  How Garratt has developed .. how maturely Mason played apart from that one loss of the ball before he regained composure  and charged forward again . When the lump of a Cente half failed to flatten May then nearly S*** himself with relief as Alfie turned but hit the post lol .
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Post by: Bentley Bullet on December 26, 2017, 06:18:10 pm
It makes me wonder if Marquis has a grudge against May, the way he shows his disgust towards him on occasions. I really do hope I'm wrong in thinking that Marquis sometimes looks like he wants May to fail.
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Post by: ZiggerZagger on December 26, 2017, 06:27:51 pm
Marquis today, was the same as he's been for a few weeks. Great out wide winning the ball. Great in the air. Link up play with midfield excellent.  But, and it's a big but, where the hell has this Mardy Marquis come from. As said earlier he should of been walking off with the ball tucked up his shirt. He was shocking today in front of goal, all down to himself spitting his dummy out because the ball wasn't within a few inches of his foot. 4 times in the 2nd half alone he gave up on through balls that went perfect, but then all of a sudden realised he could of got to it. Then turns round giving verbal to whoever past it to him.
Title: Re: Very good..
Post by: anne honemous on December 26, 2017, 06:46:14 pm
I wasn't calling Marquis though plenty in the stands were at various points in the second half, even when we were 3-0 up and absolutely in cruise control.

What frustrates me is he's clearly a capable lad, but there's loads of times when he makes it look like it's an effort to chase a loose ball, press the opposition, or go after a ball which isn't exactly inch perfect towards him. Quite often he'll be indecisive or won't commit that extra yard, the defender will get it and Marquis will make a half hearted movement towards the opposition player before it gets hoofed downfield.

In terms of what he does when he has the ball at his feet, or when he's prepared to work - and to be fair, he naturally seems to drift out wide a lot which actually is on benefit to us, that's undisputed.
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Post by: selby on December 26, 2017, 06:51:28 pm
  Was May good in front of goal then?
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Post by: drfchound on December 26, 2017, 07:08:02 pm
  Was May good in front of goal then?





No, not really.
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Post by: dickos1 on December 26, 2017, 07:16:54 pm
I also think Marquis did good today, we played well as a team, as well we looked hungry when we attacked them. With this league so open this year a loss could put us back down, but let's hope this means a unbeaten run now. Up the Rovers!





Careful with that comment about a loss putting us back down.
Someone’s negative ometer will click in.

A good win against our worst opponents of the season, with the worst goal difference in the division.
It could easily have been five or six nil.

Unlike last week, we are now genuinely mid table, eight points off the top six and seven out of the bottom four.



We've gone up one place, 14th is still midtable.

Nobody likes the excuse of playing the best side in the division so why bother using the worst side in the division.
A side that drew with Blackburn 3 days ago.

Maybe we made them look shite, I know you wont have that. But for me that's what happened
Title: Re: Very good..
Post by: drfchound on December 26, 2017, 07:22:14 pm
I also think Marquis did good today, we played well as a team, as well we looked hungry when we attacked them. With this league so open this year a loss could put us back down, but let's hope this means a unbeaten run now. Up the Rovers!





Careful with that comment about a loss putting us back down.
Someone’s negative ometer will click in.

A good win against our worst opponents of the season, with the worst goal difference in the division.
It could easily have been five or six nil.

Unlike last week, we are now genuinely mid table, eight points off the top six and seven out of the bottom four.



We've gone up one place, 14th is still midtable.

Nobody likes the excuse of playing the best side in the division so why bother using the worst side in the division.
A side that drew with Blackburn 3 days ago.

Maybe we made them look shite, I know you wont have that. But for me that's what happened





No, I was just using facts to back up my comment.
If you look, they do have the worst goal difference in the division and if they didn’t have a decent keeper we could have had five or six goals today.
Last week when we were mid table to you, the rest of us noticed that we were nine points from the top six but only four from the bottom four.
Today is a more realistic view of being genuinely mid table.
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Post by: Pancho Regan on December 26, 2017, 07:22:58 pm
Marquis today, was the same as he's been for a few weeks. Great out wide winning the ball. Great in the air. Link up play with midfield excellent.  But, and it's a big but, where the hell has this Mardy Marquis come from. As said earlier he should of been walking off with the ball tucked up his shirt. He was shocking today in front of goal, all down to himself spitting his dummy out because the ball wasn't within a few inches of his foot. 4 times in the 2nd half alone he gave up on through balls that went perfect, but then all of a sudden realised he could of got to it. Then turns round giving verbal to whoever past it to him.

Should of, could of.

You mean should have, could have.
Title: Re: Very good..
Post by: dickos1 on December 26, 2017, 07:28:31 pm
I also think Marquis did good today, we played well as a team, as well we looked hungry when we attacked them. With this league so open this year a loss could put us back down, but let's hope this means a unbeaten run now. Up the Rovers!





Careful with that comment about a loss putting us back down.
Someone’s negative ometer will click in.

A good win against our worst opponents of the season, with the worst goal difference in the division.
It could easily have been five or six nil.

Unlike last week, we are now genuinely mid table, eight points off the top six and seven out of the bottom four.



We've gone up one place, 14th is still midtable.

Nobody likes the excuse of playing the best side in the division so why bother using the worst side in the division.
A side that drew with Blackburn 3 days ago.

Maybe we made them look shite, I know you wont have that. But for me that's what happened





No, I was just using facts to back up my comment.
If you look, they do have the worst goal difference in the division and if they didn’t have a decent keeper we could have had five or six goals today.
Last week when we were mid table to you, the rest of us noticed that we were nine points from the top six but only four from the bottom four.
Today is a more realistic view of being genuinely mid table.

Mate we were 14th, if we finish the season 14th we will have finished midtable.
Yes Northampton have a poor goal difference, when we lost to Wigan were you saying it's ok Wigan are the best side in the league.
Nope you weren't
Title: Re: Very good..
Post by: drfchound on December 26, 2017, 07:41:02 pm
I also think Marquis did good today, we played well as a team, as well we looked hungry when we attacked them. With this league so open this year a loss could put us back down, but let's hope this means a unbeaten run now. Up the Rovers!





Careful with that comment about a loss putting us back down.
Someone’s negative ometer will click in.

A good win against our worst opponents of the season, with the worst goal difference in the division.
It could easily have been five or six nil.

Unlike last week, we are now genuinely mid table, eight points off the top six and seven out of the bottom four.



We've gone up one place, 14th is still midtable.

Nobody likes the excuse of playing the best side in the division so why bother using the worst side in the division.
A side that drew with Blackburn 3 days ago.

Maybe we made them look shite, I know you wont have that. But for me that's what happened





No, I was just using facts to back up my comment.
If you look, they do have the worst goal difference in the division and if they didn’t have a decent keeper we could have had five or six goals today.
Last week when we were mid table to you, the rest of us noticed that we were nine points from the top six but only four from the bottom four.
Today is a more realistic view of being genuinely mid table.

Mate we were 14th, if we finish the season 14th we will have finished midtable.
Yes Northampton have a poor goal difference, when we lost to Wigan were you saying it's ok Wigan are the best side in the league.
Nope you weren't





I never say “ it’s ok” for any reason when we lose.

I realise we are 14th.
I was merely explaining that despite the league ladder position, last week we were twice as far away from the top six than we were from the bottom four.
Just a fact really.

If we finish around 14th I will be ok with that after the way we have struggled to pick up points with any consistency in the first half of the season.

Even a point per game should keep us up now.
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Post by: RoversAlias on December 26, 2017, 08:30:26 pm
We're actually 13th anyway lads, stop being so negative.
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Post by: drfchound on December 26, 2017, 08:43:22 pm
We're actually 13th anyway lads, stop being so negative.




RA, I am being positive, we are now mid table, almost the same number of points from the top six as we are away from the bottom four.
Much better than last week.
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Post by: RoversAlias on December 26, 2017, 08:54:21 pm
We're actually 13th anyway lads, stop being so negative.




RA, I am being positive, we are now mid table, almost the same number of points from the top six as we are away from the bottom four.
Much better than last week.

I was being facetious mate  ;)
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Post by: drfchound on December 26, 2017, 10:21:56 pm
I bet you could fatchees  for England.
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Post by: RoversAlias on December 26, 2017, 10:25:15 pm
They're yet to contact me mate.

I literally was making a joke about the recent "positive v negative" debates on here, because in this particular discussion everyone was saying we were 14th when we are in actuality 13th. Hence the facetious joke, implying everyone is being negative by saying we're a place lower than we actually are. Nevermind.
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Post by: drfchound on December 26, 2017, 10:27:13 pm
Very deep, very very deep mate. :evil:
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Post by: dickos1 on December 26, 2017, 10:28:57 pm
I was pointing out we're now 13th and before today we were 14th both of these are midtable.
Hound was suggesting 14th isn't midtable but 13th is
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Post by: SydneyRover on December 26, 2017, 10:37:00 pm
We"re actually joint 12th as we have the same points and GD as Walsall, didn't see the game but with the last 2 results from Northampton I'm surprised to hear they didn't play better than what 
 many of the comments report. Great result, what a confidence boost for the club.
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Post by: RoversAlias on December 26, 2017, 10:57:16 pm
I give up lads. Merry Christmas.
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Post by: Paul Simpson on December 27, 2017, 12:11:12 am
Merry Christmas 🎄 thanks Donny for a cracking day 😀👍⚽️
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Post by: SydneyRover on December 27, 2017, 07:39:57 am
9th, sorry too much holiday spirit
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Post by: Campsall rover on December 27, 2017, 07:57:58 pm
If we win against Rochdale we will be 10th until at least 4-50 on Saturday  :woohoo:
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Post by: drfchound on December 28, 2017, 11:26:04 am
I was pointing out we're now 13th and before today we were 14th both of these are midtable.
Hound was suggesting 14th isn't midtable but 13th is






Give over.
Hound wasn’t suggesting anything of the sort.
My suggestion was merely points based.
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Post by: dickos1 on December 28, 2017, 09:40:37 pm
Irrelevant
We were 14th last week and 13th this week. And you said we weren't midtable last week but we are now.

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Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 10:05:56 am
Irrelevant
We were 14th last week and 13th this week. And you said we weren't midtable last week but we are now.





Oh no i didn't.
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Post by: Bezza on December 29, 2017, 11:33:26 am
please note we lost away at Northampton, so 3-0 was a good win and it could have been more.
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Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 02:10:18 pm
Irrelevant
We were 14th last week and 13th this week. And you said we weren't midtable last week but we are now.





Oh no i didn't.

Oh yes you did

Unlike last week, we are now genuinely mid table, eight points off the top six and seven out of the bottom four.
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Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 05:38:56 pm
Irrelevant
We were 14th last week and 13th this week. And you said we weren't midtable last week but we are now.





Oh no i didn't.

Oh yes you did

Unlike last week, we are now genuinely mid table, eight points off the top six and seven out of the bottom four.





Emphasis on the word “genuinely” and as I explained, points based.
I did not actually say we were not mid table.
Only an uneducated person could fail to understand what I was saying.
Surely that doesn’t include you Dickos?
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Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 08:19:33 pm
Whatever mate

Hope you're surviving us being 2-0 up
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Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 10:35:06 pm
Whatever mate

Hope you're surviving us being 2-0 up





Pathetic and uncalled for comment.
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Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 10:39:55 pm
As uncalled for as calling someone uneducated?
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Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 10:40:53 pm
As uncalled for as calling someone uneducated?





I didn’t say you were, in fact I suggested it wouldn’t include you.
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Post by: anne honemous on December 29, 2017, 10:41:24 pm
Put your handbags away fellas.
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Post by: dickos1 on December 29, 2017, 10:50:25 pm
As uncalled for as calling someone uneducated?





I didn’t say you were, in fact I suggested it wouldn’t include you.


This is called sarcasm my friend.
If you can't take it don't dish it out
Title: Re: Very good..
Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 10:55:12 pm
Go to bed man FFS and stop embarrassing yourself.
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Post by: RoversAlias on December 29, 2017, 11:00:14 pm
Dickos stop picking fights. It's fair when you tell some negative posters to cheer up and enjoy the wins we've had this week but now you're earning the same speech because instead of arguing with Hound for the sake of it, just try and bloody enjoy our win tonight!
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Post by: drfchound on December 29, 2017, 11:19:46 pm
Like I am doing.
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Post by: RedJ on December 29, 2017, 11:26:39 pm
Nah. Can't be. We don't want the club to do well remember, we're absolutely gutted.
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Post by: Filo on December 30, 2017, 08:33:23 am
This thread is like being in a primary school playground
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Post by: nightporter on December 30, 2017, 09:06:40 am
This thread is like being in a primary school playground

Like most threads lately, it's getting boring.
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Post by: since-1969 on December 30, 2017, 10:19:54 am
First back to back wins this season?
Northampton?