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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: POD on December 26, 2017, 05:52:26 pm
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He made a bad mistake when we were 1-0 up which almost cost an equaliser, which could have changed the game.
Within a minute, he was down the other end banging in an excellent penalty.
What a difference a minute can make in a game!
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Other than that mistake, he was very good. Took the penalty very well. Overlapped quite well and was careful with the ball.
Thought Garratt had another good game although going forward, I think there's more he could do.
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The mistake from mason set off the save from Lawlor in which got cleared to marquis who drew the foul hence the penalty. It was a fine margin that we got on the right side of.
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Other than that mistake, he was very good. Took the penalty very well. Overlapped quite well and was careful with the ball.
Thought Garratt had another good game although going forward, I think there's more he could do.
Aye, true. But if he can get the basics as a defender right then he can work on the attacking stuff as he goes on. He's certainly improving, just like Joe Wright, with more experience.
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He’s a really good player, can’t believe the stick he’s got at times.
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He's a man possessed at the moment. Fair play to him telling cops he should take the pen - especially as cops has chickened out previously
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Copps has scored two out of two as well this season.
I don’t know when he chickened out of taking one though?
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Why change the pen taker after he scored the last one
COYR
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Copps has scored two out of two as well this season.
I don’t know when he chickened out of taking one though?
Nothing to do with chickening out. Your penalty taker stays on. In any case, Copps has a patchy record and probably took on the job because no-one fancied it.
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I thought overall Mason and Garratt did well. That's easily the best I've seen Garratt play, although I understand he was good at Bristol.
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They were allowed to play as full backs, rather than wing backs. As a result they looked comfortable.
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They've played as full backs previously and struggled, but I think Garratt is improving game on game and I've always rated mason.
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They are clearly more comfortable as full backs. In same manner that Blair is more comfortable as a wing back. The flat back four worked well yesterday and while it may be necessary to change at times, the personnel fit better in this than in to a 5/3. You can play a four at back while also playing the favoured diamond of our manager - as shown yesterday.
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Only last week people were moaning about him playing the diamond, we've just got to realise different formations suit different opposition.
The last two games, the lineups haven't been received well but we've won both games
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Agree Dickos. In addition, I would suggest that in response to people saying Northampton were poor that there may be an element of us making them look poor by the manager doing his homework, and choosing the right players, formation and tactics. Northampton’s last two matches were a win against Walsall and a draw against Blackburn - not so shoddy.
Credit to DF when it’s due.
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Exactly Dutch, I've said elsewhere it may have been down to us making them look poor.
People's view would carry much more weight if they also praised him when it was merited rather than looking for excuses as to why we won instead of praising him.
I know the response will be the opposite towards me but I have been critical and then it's thrown back at me months and years later.
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If DF continues to rotate for the next two games in this spell of 4 games in 9 days then Mason is due a break . Since he came in as a loanee from Villa his application and adaptability to play in different positions has been good . I think he has made the right back spot his now leaving Matty Blair to forage forward if they get played together instead of the Kongolo Mason duo.
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He made a bad mistake when we were 1-0 up which almost cost an equaliser, which could have changed the game.
Within a minute, he was down the other end banging in an excellent penalty.
What a difference a minute can make in a game!
This season is riddled with mistakes , from being too weak up front to not being able to keep a lead and see games out that’s why we’re playing catch up.
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Smart stop from Lawlor that prevented it from going to one all just before Mason put away the penalty. Have to say Lawlor is looking increasingly assured and it’s easy to forget how young he is. If he keeps on improving in the way he has lately then we have quite a prospect there.
Good to see young players developing in the team. Garratt is another that’s noticeably growing in confidence.
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Only last week people were moaning about him playing the diamond, we've just got to realise different formations suit different opposition.
The last two games, the lineups haven't been received well but we've won both games
Nobody on this thread has criticised the diamond.
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Agree Dickos. In addition, I would suggest that in response to people saying Northampton were poor that there may be an element of us making them look poor by the manager doing his homework, and choosing the right players, formation and tactics. Northampton’s last two matches were a win against Walsall and a draw against Blackburn - not so shoddy.
Credit to DF when it’s due.
Dutch, as you know, you can only beat the team you are up against.
However, just look at the league table.
It shows how bad Northampton are, bottom four and the worst goal difference by a street.
Okay, their last two results have been good for them but what about the previous twenty odd matches.
Don’t forget that we beat Blackburn away. (Dickos, don’t bother reminding me about Walsall because WE were awful that day).
I agree that the manager set up in a way to make things tough for them and it worked well, credit to him for that.
You have to be honest though and say that Northampton had nothing to offer in return.
They were very poor.
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He made a bad mistake when we were 1-0 up which almost cost an equaliser, which could have changed the game.
Within a minute, he was down the other end banging in an excellent penalty.
What a difference a minute can make in a game!
This season is riddled with mistakes , from being too weak up front to not being able to keep a lead and see games out that’s why we’re playing catch up.
We are a young side, if we learn from the mistakes we will be more then fine.
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Only last week people were moaning about him playing the diamond, we've just got to realise different formations suit different opposition.
The last two games, the lineups haven't been received well but we've won both games
Nobody on this thread has criticised the diamond.
You like to show me where I suggested anybody had?
Some readers wouldn't have gone a miss for your letter to santa
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Agree Dickos. In addition, I would suggest that in response to people saying Northampton were poor that there may be an element of us making them look poor by the manager doing his homework, and choosing the right players, formation and tactics. Northampton’s last two matches were a win against Walsall and a draw against Blackburn - not so shoddy.
Credit to DF when it’s due.
Dutch, as you know, you can only beat the team you are up against.
However, just look at the league table.
It shows how bad Northampton are, bottom four and the worst goal difference by a street.
Okay, their last two results have been good for them but what about the previous twenty odd matches.
Don’t forget that we beat Blackburn away. (Dickos, don’t bother reminding me about Walsall because WE were awful that day).
I agree that the manager set up in a way to make things tough for them and it worked well, credit to him for that.
You have to be honest though and say that Northampton had nothing to offer in return.
They were very poor.
But you don't think it might be because we made them look poor, no?
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The lad is a talent, & he is getting better at this level each game, yes he made a mistake yesterday but give another 12 months experience he will be a top player for us in my opinion.
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Your glass seems to be less than half empty at the moment and I don't understand why.
A couple of months ago we lost to a well out-of-town Northampton side. Now we've played them off the park 3-0 and could've had 6 or 7.
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Your glass seems to be less than half empty at the moment and I don't understand why.
A couple of months ago we lost to a well out-of-town Northampton side. Now we've played them off the park 3-0 and could've had 6 or 7.
I know,
It seems the more we win the more some on here are trying to give excuses as to why it's happening.
Must be an awful predicament to be in, not being able to simply enjoy your football team winning
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For the record, my last post was aimed at Hound which I thought I'd noted but clearly didn't. Although it could definitely apply to a few different people on here of late.
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Your glass seems to be less than half empty at the moment and I don't understand why.
A couple of months ago we lost to a well out-of-town Northampton side. Now we've played them off the park 3-0 and could've had 6 or 7.
I know,
It seems the more we win the more some on here are trying to give excuses as to why it's happening.
Must be an awful predicament to be in, not being able to simply enjoy your football team winning
I enjoy the team playing well and winning as much as anyone but try to avoid getting carried away with things just yet.
I don’t think I have said that we didn’t deserve the win and I did also say that we could have had five or six goals.
How is that not acknowledging or putting down the team.
I also try to have an objective view about both teams on the pitch and have a view on why the results turn out the way they do.
I honestly think that Northampton were really poor and yes, our team had an influence on that, it has to doesn’t it.
Saying that the opponents are poor doesn’t in any way detract from a good team performance by us.
I am a long way from being critical of everything we do and my previous posts very often stick up for players when they get slated on here, again there are often many reasons why a player doesn’t perform at his best.
TBH though there are some posters who would swear that everything is rosy on the pitch and do the very opposite of what I am being accused of.
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If you mean me, then I've criticised when needed. I said Ferguson got it wrong at Wigan, I've said Williams is dreadful, marquis and may are struggling in front of goal, baudry has been poor.
The arguement of me being positive all the time is just something used when I point out all the constantnegativity on here.
I'm glad there's many others now pointing this out
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Decent player Mason. I think his versatility hinders him a little bit (a la Jimmy O'C) because he's not settled in one position but he's making RB his own now which is pleasing.
I think my only slight criticism of him would be that he needs to show a bit more composure on the ball sometimes. Occasionally it's like a hot potato and he wants to just get it forward. We saw at times last season that he's actually a good player on the ball when he relaxes a bit.
FWIW I think Baudry has been very good when I've seen him this season. All 3 of our senior centre halves are in decent form.
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Mason is now in a settled position at right back and that is helping his development as a player no question.
Baudry looked much more comfortable against Northampton because he played as the right sided centre back. Previously he has played on the left of the three centre backs. I think DF has now got a bit of a dilemma as to who to play in a two centre back formation Baudry or Wright. Butler can’t be left out if fit as he has proved me totally wrong this season. I thought he would struggle. On the contrary he has been outstanding.
I do hope DF sticks to a flat back four. We don’t have the quality of wing backs to play that system.
Blair is NOT comfortable playing that role in my opinion, most of the time he doesn’t know when to stick or twist. Wigan away was the best example. He was made to look stupid at times that night, and the blame was DF’s as he got his tactics very wrong.
Blair is a right sided midfield/winger and should be used only in that role or don’t play him.
I am now hoping that DF has realised putting round pegs in square holes does not work.
I think the penny may have finally dropped.
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I would agree with much of that analysis.
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Another good performance and some quality set pieces. Really rate this lad.
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Where were these quality set pieces then?
Other than that yes he did well again.
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His free kicks looked good from my seat.
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Where were these quality set pieces then?
Other than that yes he did well again.
really, some of the balls he played into tonight were very good and should have resulted in more goals
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Yes his corners and some crosses too were into some very dangerous areas. Rochdale defended these balls well to their credit.
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I thought his set piece delivery was terrific.
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I didn't think they were that good. Though perhaps that's because as stated Rochdale dealt with them well.
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Thought they were hit and miss personally. I've no problem with him carrying on though.
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Very good again. Really improving into a quality player. As has been mentioned, his set pieces are excellent.
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Was one of the few players tonight that was consistent in both halves.
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He consistently put the ball in dangerous places from corners and free kicks..
Plus for the second half he was up against Andrews.. My MotM shortly followed by Marquis.
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Those who have criticised Mason haven't got a clue.
He's turning into one of our most important players. He's tactically spot on, knows when to drop off or not, tackles well and can see a pass long or short.
He's now taking most free kicks and corners not to mention penalties.
He's only young as well. We've got a right prospect there.
Players like Kongolo ought to watch him and learn.
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He was very good tonight. Composed on the ball, battled hard without it.
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Mason was excellent tonight, my MOTM.
I watched him closely - he has grown immensely in confidence. He was brave and solid in his defensive work and a threat going forward. And I too was impressed with his dead-ball deliveries.
A great prospect if he keeps improving at this rate.
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He lost his man for their best chance of the game. He’s an okay right back but his best asset is his delivery into the box
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If Andrew was still at left back, that would make for a very solid looking back 4 and we would have a threat from either left or right side. God, how we've missed that extra dimension, but it has been tempered by the steady improvement in Garrett.
We will have 2 decent full backs when Danny joins us once more but until then, I think another loanees is not out the question. Mason looking more and more the part, but Garrett still learning.
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Mason is the real success though he does not get as much natural support as say Alfie May because his rôle in the team is less highlighted . In his time as a loanee he was sometimes used in the middle of the backline or infront of them but over these last three games in particular he has made that right back spot his own in my view . I thought DF would have rested him last night in favour of Alcock but Mason worked indefatigably again.
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The new Dave Mulligan.
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I think he's come on leaps and bounds. He was probably nothing but steady last year at left or right back, in fact the best game I saw him have last year was at Notts County in the middle and that was where I thought his future lay. However he now looks so comfortable in a back four, and increasingly so going forward - long may it continue.
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He's also improved alot in the air. He won some very important headers. He's still learning from his mistakes but game on game, he's getting better. He's also got a very level headed temperament and good stamina.