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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: keith79 on January 01, 2018, 12:25:52 am
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We got anyone yet 😂
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26 minutes into the transfer window and nothing, no ambition this club 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Brammall out.
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None expected
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None expected by who?
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Looking good on Houghton. Won’t believe it until he signs. He’s too good for us at this level. I’ll be surprised if we’re not gazumped
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Bet you're fun at parties.
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Today could be the last games for Houghton, Kongolo and Whiteman so we can't hang around. I hope we get something positive in Fergie's post match interview.
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Ferguson said yesterday Houghton deal isn't far away.
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And also that Sheffield Utd appear to be happy for Whiteman to stay..
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And also that Sheffield Utd appear to be happy for Whiteman to stay..
Think it was stated a while ago that Whiteman would be staying
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It's not sounding too positive on any new signings though, which is disappointing to hear. We've been here before and not done anything in January and suffered the consequences. Surely, we are not going to fall into the same trap again!
It's not like we need major surgery, but we do need a bit more experience.
I'll be overjoyed if we sign Jordan permanently, like everyone else, but we've managed to claw our way back up the league to a very healthy looking 10th place, but......it doesn't take much to fall right back down again. The league seems to be breaking up into a mini-league of the top 8 or so, and the rest. We really have our work cut out if we want to break into that top 8. A bit of extra experience will help us enormously and, of course, with the promise of a couple of new faces of our own in February, we could be in a position to make it an exciting finish.
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If we got Houghton to sign then we could bring in a loan
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it makes sense to keep quiet about transfers until we know who Rovers get in the Fa cup draw on Monday a big fish live on TV and it's a different ball game
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It's not sounding too positive on any new signings though, which is disappointing to hear. We've been here before and not done anything in January and suffered the consequences. Surely, we are not going to fall into the same trap again!
It's not like we need major surgery, but we do need a bit more experience.
I'll be overjoyed if we sign Jordan permanently, like everyone else, but we've managed to claw our way back up the league to a very healthy looking 10th place, but......it doesn't take much to fall right back down again. The league seems to be breaking up into a mini-league of the top 8 or so, and the rest. We really have our work cut out if we want to break into that top 8. A bit of extra experience will help us enormously and, of course, with the promise of a couple of new faces of our own in February, we could be in a position to make it an exciting finish.
Agree with that Alan, we have some really tough games coming up, it would be a shame to drop back down the league for the want of a bit of experience & cover for left back, would love to see a terrier type midfielder to come in to help break up play & help keep possession a bit more, Houghton & Whiteman are excellent players, but we tend to forget how young & inexperienced they are, just need that bit more experience to get us through in my opinion. If we do I believe we will finish really strongly.
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it makes sense to keep quiet about transfers until we know who Rovers get in the Fa cup draw on Monday a big fish live on TV and it's a different ball game
That is of course,providing that we progress on Saturday.
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We're only a few hours into a 31 day window.so not sure why it's not looking good already
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Who said it's not looking good?
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Not looking too positive then, there's 30 days left
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Were very much second best this season , it just hasn’t worked out . From the start of the season transfer plans have never been all the organized with players staying when told to leave etc etc . January seems to be about securing what we’ve got with Houghton , Kongolo . Money is not in abundance at Rovers if they get anyone it’s likely to be a loan or no fee player . If anything the players have proved themselves as a team now and with a little tweaking it will get us through to the end of the season and take a long look at it from there. There’s more chance of players going out on loan than coming in imo.
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If we get Jordan on a permanent deal I will be happy. Best holding midfielder I've seen at Rovers in my 45 years watching them. He is the sort of player you build a team around. Hopefully he will be ours for a very long time.
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It's not sounding too positive on any new signings though, which is disappointing to hear. We've been here before and not done anything in January and suffered the consequences. Surely, we are not going to fall into the same trap again!
It's not like we need major surgery, but we do need a bit more experience.
This is a very good point. Two years ago we really suffered from complacency in the transfer window, and complacency in general actually, and got slapped down a league for it.
Not too fussed at this early stage but a bit of strengthening up front and maybe some fresh legs at the back would be useful given our defenders' tendency to all get crocked at once for some reason.
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Dickos, before you start jumping up and down on your 'let's all be positive' rant, it wasn't me who said we needed to get our business done early a few weeks ago, it was the manager. That positive statement by the manager has turned into a much less positive statement saying that if we sign Houghton, there won't be much left in the kitty and we'll have to wait until later in the month.
The consensus of opinion on here seems to be saying the same thing, that is we need a bit of extra experience where it matters. Nobody is suggesting we need to bring in half a dozen players and there needs to be radical changes, but we are short in one or two areas. Hats off to Fergie for managing the squad the best he can under the circumstances, but all I'm saying is now's the time he needs the support of the Board and I sincerely hope they are not found wanting.
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If we get Jordan on a permanent deal I will be happy. Best holding midfielder I've seen at Rovers in my 45 years watching them. He is the sort of player you build a team around. Hopefully he will be ours for a very long time.
Brian Stock won’t be happy!
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Brian stock is the best one we have had by a mile in my my time.
The midfield of Coppinger, Green, Stock, Wellens & Oster (usually 4 of the 5 would play) was probably the best this club have ever had.
Didn’t see the 50’s team though.
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Brian stock is the best one we have had by a mile in my my time.
The midfield of Coppinger, Green, Stock, Wellens & Oster (usually 4 of the 5 would play) was probably the best this club have ever had.
Didn’t see the 50’s team though.
I agree. The only comparable one was when we had Alan Little and the Snodins.
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Oster and Green never played in the same Rovers team. Green left in 2008 and we didn't sign Oster until 2009.
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Brian Stock is the best midfielder I’ve seen play for us, just shading Wellens. It’s hard to set Houghton’s place after just two parts of seasons on loan so far. But I feel like we’ve seen enough to know he’s a very very good player and well worth the investment. He plays with a calmness and maturity that defies his years, is always in position to intercept and he doesn’t shy away from a tackle. He protects the ball well and has an eye for a pass, this is also an area I feel he can develop and improve in further and become a bit bolder with passing choices as he has it in his locker. All the qualities are there and if you watch the way he talks and organises other players through the game I’d have him down as future captain material. He’s captained Chelsea and England youth teams (no mean feat) and it would be a major coup for us to secure him in the long term.
Obviously in an ideal world it’d be nice to get one or two more in. But I can absolutely see why getting Houghton is the priority for now. Once that’s done I would assume we’ll look at the other options available.
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And yet...
Brian Stock struggled to break into a very weak Wales side whereas Paul Green was a regular for a couple of years in a much stronger Republic of Ireland side.
Stock was (sometimes) a sumptuous orchestrator. Green was pretty much always a relentless terrier.
Without a doubt it was O’Driscoll’s biggest mistake to fail to appreciate and properly harness Green’s talent. Green was a bit part player throughout 2007 when we badly misfired. He was central to the side that finally achieved greatness in early 2008. O’Driscoll said at the end of 2007/08 he’d been surprised by how well Green had played. But by then, Green had jumped ship. Given that our second half of 08/09 was promotion form, I often wonder what we might have achieved if Green had remained for that first Championship season.
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28 days left to decide whether Billy Sharp is surplus at the Blades and available for loan.
I'm surprised a few Blades fans calling RS and suggesting he's not the future. Even if Billy hasn't been starting I can't see Wilder letting him go although they have Ched Evans and Hanson in the wings to add to Clarke and Donaldson.
I would love this to happen albeit unlikely!
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28 days left to decide whether Billy Sharp is surplus at the Blades and available for loan.
I'm surprised a few Blades fans calling RS and suggesting he's not the future. Even if Billy hasn't been starting I can't see Wilder letting him go although they have Ched Evans and Hanson in the wings to add to Clarke and Donaldson.
I would love this to happen albeit unlikely!
You'd think the likes of Wigan and Blackburn would be very interested if Billy was made available.
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They would, but would he? Wishful thinking! 😉
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No chance. Half a chance of promotion The Blades. Why the f**k would he want to be elsewhere even if he’s not playing?
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I think we need to be prudent here...Houghton would be a great permanent addition for the future but you pay more for players in fee's and wages in January..For me we need to just sign the loan players to comfortably get us through to the summer as it's next season when I think we can really kick on..
For a start we wont be paying some of our biggest earners anymore for nothing..Williams will be released from his high contract and Cedric Evina who while currently on loan at Crawley is rumoured to be a very big drain on our resources still..The lad from Chelsea will have got some games in this season hopefully and with a pre season behind him will be like a new signing...Hopefully that money saved will be used to fund a few good acquisitions and we will have a really good squad going into next year...
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Oster and Green never played in the same Rovers team. Green left in 2008 and we didn't sign Oster until 2009.
Yes you are not wrong. We had Woods of course after Green.
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Individually Ian Snodin is the best midfielder I have seen play for Rovers. The other players he played with were not as good a unit as the 2007/8/9/10 midfield. Other than his brother Glynn of course but he played quite a bit at Left back as well as left midfield.
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28 days left to decide whether Billy Sharp is surplus at the Blades and available for loan.
I'm surprised a few Blades fans calling RS and suggesting he's not the future. Even if Billy hasn't been starting I can't see Wilder letting him go although they have Ched Evans and Hanson in the wings to add to Clarke and Donaldson.
I would love this to happen albeit unlikely!
I went to watch Sheff Utd in a poor defeat at home to Bolton the other day and Billy Sharp was quite benign. But then again, Sheff U's tactic was to lump the ball up high down the middle for short men Sharp and Clarke, against three huge defenders including David Wheater. Heard a few shouts of "gerrim off" around me regarding Sharp though before he was hooked for Clayton Donaldson around the hour mark.
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28 days left to decide whether Billy Sharp is surplus at the Blades and available for loan.
I'm surprised a few Blades fans calling RS and suggesting he's not the future. Even if Billy hasn't been starting I can't see Wilder letting him go although they have Ched Evans and Hanson in the wings to add to Clarke and Donaldson.
I would love this to happen albeit unlikely!
I went to watch Sheff Utd in a poor defeat at home to Bolton the other day and Billy Sharp was quite benign. But then again, Sheff U's tactic was to lump the ball up high down the middle for short men Sharp and Clarke, against three huge defenders including David Wheater. Heard a few shouts of "gerrim off" around me regarding Sharp though before he was hooked for Clayton Donaldson around the hour mark.
From what I’ve seen of Sheff U this season they are not a long ball side. I’m sure that’s not how Wilder told them to play but a couple poor results and when confidence drops a bit it’s easier for players to play long rather than play football.
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I'm sure you're right, they just looked like they had no idea what to do against such a physical side and resorted to a tactic that played right into Bolton's hands.
There were ex-Rovers everywhere, four in the Sheffield Utd team. Stevens looked good, Duffy was alright but Lundstram was probably the most frustrating player on the park. Even Lee Butler was on the Bolton bench barking orders.
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28 days left to decide whether Billy Sharp is surplus at the Blades and available for loan.
I'm surprised a few Blades fans calling RS and suggesting he's not the future. Even if Billy hasn't been starting I can't see Wilder letting him go although they have Ched Evans and Hanson in the wings to add to Clarke and Donaldson.
I would love this to happen albeit unlikely!
it’s not April 1st already is it ??
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My mate's son was in Majorca a few weeks ago and John Hanson was there. He's apparently been told there is no future for him at SU. A few Bradford City fans want him back but one lass stated that he is in the village pub every night while not playing so unlikely to be match fit, as well as being on 10k a week there.
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Assuming what Chelsea write is accurate, Houghton's loan ends tomorrow..
http://www.chelseafc.com/teams/on-loan-players/jordan-houghton.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/teams/on-loan-players/jordan-houghton.html)
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Assuming what Chelsea write is accurate, Houghton's loan ends tomorrow..
http://www.chelseafc.com/teams/on-loan-players/jordan-houghton.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/teams/on-loan-players/jordan-houghton.html)
It does aling with the others
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James Hanson is reported to be in talks with Bury
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Assuming what Chelsea write is accurate, Houghton's loan ends tomorrow..
http://www.chelseafc.com/teams/on-loan-players/jordan-houghton.html (http://www.chelseafc.com/teams/on-loan-players/jordan-houghton.html)
It does aling with the others
Hopefully we keep all except Kongolo. He does seem to have a few flashes of quality in him but as I've said before, they're too few and far between.
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Think Hanson would be a good option for us, shame if he goes Bury.
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Think Hanson would be a good option for us, shame if he goes Bury.
Any immobile striker is not good for us. Our midfield whoever plays does not put enough crosses either in the air or on the floor to help them score. That’s why Marquis and May have to work so hard. Mandeville could look better if we produced more crosses or into the box as he is not a striker that runs all over the attacking third.
So Hanson would be a no to me.
Also it appears we are not looking at additional players without players going out or a lucrative 4th round FA cup tie.
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Think Hanson would be a good option for us, shame if he goes Bury.
I wouldn’t want him, big wages and shite.
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Think Hanson would be a good option for us, shame if he goes Bury.
Any immobile striker is not good for us. Our midfield whoever plays does not put enough crosses either in the air or on the floor to help them score. That’s why Marquis and May have to work so hard. Mandeville could look better if we produced more crosses or into the box as he is not a striker that runs all over the attacking third.
So Hanson would be a no to me.
Also it appears we are not looking at additional players without players going out or a lucrative 4th round FA cup tie.
I just think he’d be a decent option to have.
Paddy Madden gone Fleetwood
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Brian stock is the best one we have had by a mile in my my time.
The midfield of Coppinger, Green, Stock, Wellens & Oster (usually 4 of the 5 would play) was probably the best this club have ever had.
Didn’t see the 50’s team though.
Bobby Herbert RH, Jackie Teasedale LH , Bert Tindill IL , Alick Jeffrey IR .. Impossiible to compare since in the 50's midfield was shared between half backs and inside forwards and our two inside forwards( above) were essentially goalscorers rarely seen in defense .
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Yes it was a totally different game back in the fifties. You can blame Don Revie he invented the Revie plan 4-4-2
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No chance. Half a chance of promotion The Blades. Why the f**k would he want to be elsewhere even if he’s not playing?
Since Billy first left us he has spent much of his time above L1 level warming the bench.
Maybe L1 is where he looks best.
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Forget Billy now, we have had two bites of him and I can’t see us getting him fo a third time. I think he would be great alongside Marquis but we won’t get him. I don’t see the Blades letting him go anywhere.
As for Hanson, no thank you, he represents the past, one dimensional player and we need to be looking to the future not the past.
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I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than sign Hanson. Rubbish.
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Think Hanson would be a good option for us, shame if he goes Bury.
Any immobile striker is not good for us. Our midfield whoever plays does not put enough crosses either in the air or on the floor to help them score. That’s why Marquis and May have to work so hard. Mandeville could look better if we produced more crosses or into the box as he is not a striker that runs all over the attacking third.
So Hanson would be a no to me.
Also it appears we are not looking at additional players without players going out or a lucrative 4th round FA cup tie.
I just think he’d be a decent option to have.
Paddy Madden gone Fleetwood
Mush, I still live in Bradford and used to live in Idle where John Hanson used to stack shelves in the local Co-op. He hasn't done bad for himself at all but with a better attitude might have done far better. Trust me, he wouldn't improve us one iota.
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Not that keen on Hanson, but he'll be courted by ourselves and clubs in League 2.
Given their stupidity in the summer of signing everything that blinked as quickly as possible and for as much money as possible, you'd have thought Bury would have learned their lesson by now...
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Not that keen on Hanson, but he'll be courted by ourselves and clubs in League 2.
Given their stupidity in the summer of signing everything that blinked as quickly as possible and for as much money as possible, you'd have thought Bury would have learned their lesson by now...
If Bury don’t get relegated this season then I will start predicting we will get back to back promotions this and next season and we will all be going to Old Trafford, The Etihad, The Emirates, Anfield and Stamford Bridge etc etc in season 2019/20
I get ahead of myself on occasions but even I can’t see that happening. Pigs really do fly then.
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I notice Chelsea have began recalling in their crop of young players out on loan, interesting that JH is not among that list
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Forget Billy now, we have had two bites of him and I can’t see us getting him fo a third time
Fourth :blink:
09-10 LOAN
10-12 Permanent
14 LOAN
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I notice Chelsea have began recalling in their crop of young players out on loan, interesting that JH is not among that list
The 2 players they have recalled look like they were on season loans. Houghton's loan officially ends today so wouldn't technically be a recall.
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I think Eion Doyle would be a decent shout for us. Proven at this level and already into double figures this season on loan at Oldham. Not sure how much Preston would want for him though.
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And yet...
Brian Stock struggled to break into a very weak Wales side whereas Paul Green was a regular for a couple of years in a much stronger Republic of Ireland side.
Stock was (sometimes) a sumptuous orchestrator. Green was pretty much always a relentless terrier.
Without a doubt it was O’Driscoll’s biggest mistake to fail to appreciate and properly harness Green’s talent. Green was a bit part player throughout 2007 when we badly misfired. He was central to the side that finally achieved greatness in early 2008. O’Driscoll said at the end of 2007/08 he’d been surprised by how well Green had played. But by then, Green had jumped ship. Given that our second half of 08/09 was promotion form, I often wonder what we might have achieved if Green had remained for that first Championship season.
Struggling or not, when Stock was in consideration for Wales their midfield could call on Aaron Ramsey, Joe Ledley and Gareth Bale.
Yup, he did struggle to get past them!
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I think Eion Doyle would be a decent shout for us. Proven at this level and already into double figures this season on loan at Oldham. Not sure how much Preston would want for him though.
Out for the rest of the season apparently
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And yet...
Brian Stock struggled to break into a very weak Wales side whereas Paul Green was a regular for a couple of years in a much stronger Republic of Ireland side.
Stock was (sometimes) a sumptuous orchestrator. Green was pretty much always a relentless terrier.
Without a doubt it was O’Driscoll’s biggest mistake to fail to appreciate and properly harness Green’s talent. Green was a bit part player throughout 2007 when we badly misfired. He was central to the side that finally achieved greatness in early 2008. O’Driscoll said at the end of 2007/08 he’d been surprised by how well Green had played. But by then, Green had jumped ship. Given that our second half of 08/09 was promotion form, I often wonder what we might have achieved if Green had remained for that first Championship season.
Struggling or not, when Stock was in consideration for Wales their midfield could call on Aaron Ramsey, Joe Ledley and Gareth Bale.
Yup, he did struggle to get past them!
Paul Green >>>> Gareth Bale
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I think Eion Doyle would be a decent shout for us. Proven at this level and already into double figures this season on loan at Oldham. Not sure how much Preston would want for him though.
Out for the rest of the season apparently
Nailed on signing then ;)
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Our type of signing ... crocked , cheap and unavailable.
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And yet...
Brian Stock struggled to break into a very weak Wales side whereas Paul Green was a regular for a couple of years in a much stronger Republic of Ireland side.
Stock was (sometimes) a sumptuous orchestrator. Green was pretty much always a relentless terrier.
Without a doubt it was O’Driscoll’s biggest mistake to fail to appreciate and properly harness Green’s talent. Green was a bit part player throughout 2007 when we badly misfired. He was central to the side that finally achieved greatness in early 2008. O’Driscoll said at the end of 2007/08 he’d been surprised by how well Green had played. But by then, Green had jumped ship. Given that our second half of 08/09 was promotion form, I often wonder what we might have achieved if Green had remained for that first Championship season.
Struggling or not, when Stock was in consideration for Wales their midfield could call on Aaron Ramsey, Joe Ledley and Gareth Bale.
Yup, he did struggle to get past them!
Fair points. Would have been fairer still if you’d noted that it was actually David Vaughan and Dave Edwards who generally kept Stock out of the Wales side.
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Darren Ferguson; "When we bought Kiwomya we were told he would be an ever-present"
Antonio Conte; " He is a never-present"
;)
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Curtis Main gone to Motherwell I feel for them
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He will be the best striker in Scotland.
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Hahahaha, what an absolute fraud that man is.
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Even a Guy scored goals up there.
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BBC reporting that Keifer Moore is on his way to Peterborough after the clubs agreed a fee. Although the article infers Posh are not sure how they're going to pay for him!
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That could well burst the bubble for Rotherham.
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Not convinced by quite how good Moore is, but I’d have loved to see him here and would be grateful if we don’t have to face him again. Anything he lacks in ability he clearly made up for with outright physicality and he won everything that went near him in the air. Whether he’s mobile enough to suit the way we play is debatable, but he causes havoc in the box and clearly knows where the goal is.
Anyhow, looks like he’s off to Posh. And he’s a **** anyway.
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Moore going Peterborough works for us, since we've played them twice already. Means we only had to come up against him once, and of course it weakens our dear near neighbours.
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Does that mean Marriott is on way then?
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Does that mean Marriott is on way then?
You couldn’t replace Marriott with Moore, complete opposite style of players.... Well you could I suppose but it wouldn’t make sense! They don’t mind spending a few quid Posh, but if he was that good Ipswich wouldn’t sell him. Big Mick loves players of Moore’s profile.
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I think Eion Doyle would be a decent shout for us. Proven at this level and already into double figures this season on loan at Oldham. Not sure how much Preston would want for him though.
Out for the rest of the season apparently
He has an illness that appears worst than first thought. He’s been out for two weeks with it and could be out for months? He’s returned to Preston.
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Fair play to Peterboro', they certainly don't mess about when replacing players. One good striker possibly going and one in straight away - no messing. Different abilities, yes, but a good standard for this league.
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I think Eion Doyle would be a decent shout for us. Proven at this level and already into double figures this season on loan at Oldham. Not sure how much Preston would want for him though.
Out for the rest of the season apparently
He has an illness that appears worst than first thought. He’s been out for two weeks with it and could be out for months? He’s returned to Preston.
A blood clot apparently
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Reading through Peterboroughs chairman's twitter last night they pulled out the deal as Moore wanted 10k+ a week.
Rumoured to be going Barnsley now.
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That could well burst the bubble for Rotherham.
Probably not. His replacement David Ball, who somehow couldn't get a game for love nor money but deputised when Moore served a 3 game ban, has got 5 goals in 6 games which has helped the Millers up to 7th.
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Reading through Peterboroughs chairman's twitter last night they pulled out the deal as Moore wanted 10k+ a week.
Rumoured to be going Barnsley now.
He is probably on that at Ipswich so why would you want move for less.
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Very much doubt he's on anything like that, they only signed him from forest green rovers less than a year ago.
I'd imagine he's on about a 10th of that
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Reading through Peterboroughs chairman's twitter last night they pulled out the deal as Moore wanted 10k+ a week.
Rumoured to be going Barnsley now.
He is probably on that at Ipswich so why would you want move for less.
At a chance of playing more often I'd guess.
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Very much doubt he's on anything like that, they only signed him from forest green rovers less than a year ago.
I'd imagine he's on about a 10th of that
I can't imagine he's on anything as low as 1k at a Championship club. I agree it won't be as high as 10k+ but somewhere in the middle is more my estimation. He has every right to ask for a good wage at a club clearly feeling they need to sign him, the worst case scenario for him is that he stays at Rotherham for the rest of the season and enhances his reputation further.
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I reckon a player signed from a non league club won't be on much more.
The fella arsenal signed from non league only got 2k a week and this is Ipswich.
Probably the bottom 2 or 3 budgets in the league
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A good league 1 striker and owned by a Championship club will be asking for that amount money. He may not get it depends how much the buying club wants him.
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I reckon a player signed from a non league club won't be on much more.
The fella arsenal signed from non league only got 2k a week and this is Ipswich.
Probably the bottom 2 or 3 budgets in the league
Kieffer Moore is a bit different to Cohen Bramall (if it's him you mean at Arsenal). Moore was older when signing for Ipswich and had played with some success in the football league. He played for Yeovil in the Championship, there's no way he was signed by Ipswich on pittance youth teamer wages even if they did get him from FGR at the time.
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He will be on more than a grand a week I reckon, there were a few clubs in for him. The fact he’s asked for £10k at P’Boro indicates that as well.