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Title: Kongolo
Post by: rich1471 on January 06, 2018, 05:09:21 pm
Was the best player today by a mile showed why he will be a great player in 2 or 3 years time never stopped runing
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Post by: Filo on January 06, 2018, 05:12:13 pm
Had a great game today, more of the same Rodney
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Post by: northern soul on January 06, 2018, 05:13:09 pm
Best game for its I've seen him have. BUT needs it to continue.
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Post by: Scooter on January 06, 2018, 05:22:58 pm
Definitely MoM. Great performance
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Post by: mushRTID on January 06, 2018, 05:25:02 pm
How didn’t he get MOTM, unbelievable.
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Post by: goalkick on January 06, 2018, 05:28:39 pm
Tommy Rowe played very well also.
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Post by: Colemans Left Hook on January 06, 2018, 05:43:06 pm
Was the best player today by a mile showed why he will be a great player in 2 or 3 years time never stopped runing

it sounds stupid saying he played better because his "Monegasque"  brother was nearby  - but probably true -- of course they won't go clubbing it together etc -- 
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Post by: salisburyrover on January 06, 2018, 05:49:07 pm
He had a great game but the only thing lacking was the final ball. I suppose this will come with time and experience but we need that end product now. Not taking anything away from him great work today but need something at the end of his good runs.
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Post by: bobbymax on January 06, 2018, 05:50:04 pm
Terrific today and even got back to defend. Rowe was also excellent, Baudry got bullied a bit by that lump Andrew (Wright would probably have done better) and Mason showed again that he isn't a left-back.
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Post by: knockers on January 06, 2018, 06:00:55 pm
That's not really Masons fault though is it. The lads been playing great on the right so why not leave him. Also Garrett should have played left to continue a run of games as he'll only get better with game time.
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Post by: adamtherover on January 06, 2018, 06:01:07 pm
Good running, but zero final ball and wont shoot when its easier to pass to someone in a worse position..
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Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 06, 2018, 06:05:13 pm
I find it bizarre changing defence to shoe horn Matty in at right back when we were doing well, Matty is a good player but not at right back. Stuff like this does irritate me about DF just over complicating things for the sake of it
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Post by: dickos1 on January 06, 2018, 06:06:46 pm
It's the same as monday though, which I thought was up there with our best performance of the season
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Post by: i_ateallthepies on January 06, 2018, 06:09:15 pm
Rodney showed some sublime first touches with difficult balls played up to him and numerous times he went past the defender but my God!! he has no end product.  Shat himself late in the game when he broke inside and didn't have a clue what to do next so just gave it to the two defenders standing on the edge of the box waiting for him.  His legs work far too fast for his brain.
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Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 06, 2018, 06:10:06 pm
No doubt he was superb. Keeps that up and no chance of Whiteman being missed.
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Post by: since-1969 on January 06, 2018, 06:12:36 pm
That's not really Masons fault though is it. The lads been playing great on the right so why not leave him. Also Garrett should have played left to continue a run of games as he'll only get better with game time.
Mason was s*** today ,no left foot , got cought too many times , gave away free kicks , one lead to their goal . The teams deficiencies were there to be seen today , no left back , no left side to our game , no height up front , no ideas on how to draw defenders out of their comfort zone and get behind them .
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 06, 2018, 06:13:10 pm
We saw much more of what he's capable of today. Even some defensive attributes. Hopefully that performance will give him some confidence and let's face it Rodney, you might as well have a pop at goal because nobody else will.
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Post by: RoversAlias on January 06, 2018, 06:43:21 pm
Kongolo was excellent today, my MOTM by a distance. Give him a license to run on the right hand side and he can be very effective.
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Post by: ravenrover on January 06, 2018, 07:21:24 pm
That's not really Masons fault though is it. The lads been playing great on the right so why not leave him. Also Garrett should have played left to continue a run of games as he'll only get better with game time.
Mason was s*** today ,no left foot , got cought too many times , gave away free kicks , one lead to their goal . The teams deficiencies were there to be seen today , no left back , no left side to our game , no height up front , no ideas on how to draw defenders out of their comfort zone and get behind them .
to be fair to Mason the winger went down at every opportunity however he also beat Mason at ease as he did Tyler last week. But faded in the 2nd half as he did the last game.
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Post by: graingrover on January 06, 2018, 07:27:33 pm
So Man City , Dutch FA , and DF ARE  right to consider this young man as a good prospect then ! I thought so too tbh!
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Post by: DonnyOsmond on January 06, 2018, 07:34:21 pm
So Man City , Dutch FA , and DF ARE  right to consider this young man as a good prospect then ! I thought so too tbh!

There's a difference between a prospect and being right ready now for League One.
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Post by: steve@dcfd on January 06, 2018, 07:37:25 pm
Tommy Rowe played very well also.

Yes he did but missed a sitter he should have scored.
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Post by: Retdon1 on January 06, 2018, 07:40:03 pm
I've been a big critic of kongolo all season but today he was excellent. Hopefully he can keep this level of performance up from now on.
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Post by: aidanstu on January 06, 2018, 07:42:52 pm
I thought Kongolo was excellent today but seems to lack of confidence in the final third. That will come and he clearly has the ability.

I felt for Mason today, he had a poor first half and you could visibly see his confidence go with his body language when things were not going his way and the morons in the crowd turned in him despite some very good recent performances. Credit to him though he gave his head a shake and had a better second half.
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Post by: chrisd_123 on January 06, 2018, 08:00:02 pm
I may be proven wrong here but Kongolo imo just needs more 90 minutes'.

He's been good in spells and today was fantastic but even towards the end of today he tired. The issue he has had is he'd never had a real run in the side as DF's first choice was Houghton/Whiteman/Rowe and then the rotation on the right of Blair/Copps/Kongolo and even Beestin recently.

He seems like a player who struggles if he doesn't get consistency in games.

Given a run of starts and full games, he's clearly got something and could be a big asset. More starts means he can continue gaining the match fitness to finish games strongly.
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Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 06, 2018, 08:08:54 pm
Thing is until today performances haven't really warranted a run of games but he's earnt the shirt for next week so hopefully he gets it now
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Post by: chrisd_123 on January 06, 2018, 08:40:09 pm
Thing is until today performances haven't really warranted a run of games but he's earnt the shirt for next week so hopefully he gets it now

Yeah I agree he's been hit and miss but I suppose that's the catch 22 with young players. Hopefully he'll kick on now and in 5/6 games time he'll be the mainstay.

The frustrating thing about him I suppose is that he's clearly got talent unlike some players we've had in the past that have somehow warranted more chances.
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Post by: adamtherover on January 06, 2018, 08:44:37 pm
No doubt he was superb. Keeps that up and no chance of Whiteman being missed.

The same whiteman that shoots on sight and usually scores,  vesus dave who runs v fast till he hits a dedender? 
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Post by: donny dave on January 06, 2018, 09:42:32 pm
No doubt he was superb. Keeps that up and no chance of Whiteman being missed.

The same whiteman that shoots on sight and usually scores,  vesus dave who runs v fast till he hits a dedender? 
For god's sake he is 19 or 20 in a foreign country give the guy credit when he deserves it.
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Post by: donny dave on January 06, 2018, 09:44:45 pm
As you can guess I like him he WILL prove the doubters wrong.
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Post by: Campsall rover on January 06, 2018, 10:01:53 pm
Some of the comments on here are beyond belief just because we lost a football match.
Would anybody even contemplate criticising Rodney if we had won today. I doubt it very much.
He is 20 and learning about the demands of professional football at league 1 level. He needs a run in the team now to develop further.
I admit i have been very critical of him during the season, especially when he is without the ball.
Today he proved he has considerable ability and vision and with growing confidence and belief in himself he can become a very good player indeed.
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Post by: Alan Southstand on January 06, 2018, 10:12:47 pm
Shame the rest of them didn't help one bit. Our midfield must be one of, if not the, worst in the division. There is no way, much like Alfie May, should be anywhere near the first team yet, but there he was today trying his best but was quite literally a boy against men.

For goodness sake, we need some experience in the right places and with some physicality about them. Plymouth will be rubbing their hands together!
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Post by: chrisd_123 on January 06, 2018, 10:17:17 pm
Shame the rest of them didn't help one bit. Our midfield must be one of, if not the, worst in the division. There is no way, much like Alfie May, should be anywhere near the first team yet, but there he was today trying his best but was quite literally a boy against men.

For goodness sake, we need some experience in the right places and with some physicality about them. Plymouth will be rubbing their hands together!

This is a joke, right?

Worst midfield in the division? We're hardly Barcelona and weren't at it today but that is one hell of a statement. I bet if you offered Houghton and Rowe to 99% of teams in this division they'd take them in their starting 11. We're not going to win the league but come on, that statement is laughable. Nowhere near the worst in this division.

And yes, May wasn't great today but 8 days ago he played against the same opposition and scored did he not?
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Post by: dickos1 on January 06, 2018, 10:18:38 pm
Shame the rest of them didn't help one bit. Our midfield must be one of, if not the, worst in the division. There is no way, much like Alfie May, should be anywhere near the first team yet, but there he was today trying his best but was quite literally a boy against men.

For goodness sake, we need some experience in the right places and with some physicality about them. Plymouth will be rubbing their hands together!

You're coming out with an awful lot of nonsense tonight
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Post by: GazLaz on January 06, 2018, 10:33:33 pm
Houghton and Rowe are two of the best in the division, add in Copps... not useless.
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Post by: Campsall rover on January 06, 2018, 10:57:42 pm
On Monday eve all was rosy, tonight well do I need to say anything.
Why when we win the team are brilliant and DF should be knighted and when we lose a match the team are rubbish and  DF should be sacked.
That’s what it is like on this forum. Why can’t a bit of perspective on preceedings be given in some of the posts.
I have never heard so much rubbish spouted on here for quite some time.

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Post by: RoversAlias on January 06, 2018, 10:59:44 pm
On Monday eve all was rosy, tonight well do I need to say anything.
Why when we win the team are brilliant and DF should be knighted and when we lose a match the team are rubbish and  DF should be sacked.
That’s what it is like on this forum. Why can’t a bit of perspective on preceedings be given in some of the posts.
I have never heard so much rubbish spouted on here for quite some time.



It is so hot and cold, and I agree it is as bad as it's been in a long time. I've tried to only come on for two short spells tonight because it's just not worth it. Some sections of our fanbase I fear will never be satisfied with this hobby of theirs.
Title: Re: Kongolo
Post by: Mustapha-Dump on January 06, 2018, 11:54:53 pm
All season long I’ve described Kongolo as having another gear that he just never gets into and today finally he got into it, needs to keep at it now and maybe get some shooting practice in training and he could be very useful in the run in
Title: Re: Kongolo
Post by: Bezza on January 07, 2018, 08:03:11 am
Enjoyed Kongolo`s performance big improvement, but up front and left back sadly lacking.
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Post by: Campsall rover on January 07, 2018, 09:10:38 am
Not Mason’s fault though as he has been great at right back in the last few matches. That is position. Up front we are lacking in the goal scoring department that is without question.
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Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 07, 2018, 09:41:57 am
DFs got a problem getting the balance right accommodating Mason Blair and Kongolo. Mason has been good recently and trusts his defensive capabilities over Garratt. A pity Mason had a poor game and his limitations on the left were too obvious. Mind you Rowe didn't help him much in the first half while Blair and Kongolo worked quite well in tandem on the right.
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Post by: dickos1 on January 07, 2018, 10:02:01 am
Not Mason’s fault though as he has been great at right back in the last few matches. That is position. Up front we are lacking in the goal scoring department that is without question.


He played well at left back on Monday against probably the leagues best player
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Post by: Super Colin Cramb on January 07, 2018, 10:09:42 am
By far Kongolo’s best performance, some of his first touches were awesome. I thought in the second half Kongolo and Matty played well together and matty beat there full back a few times and delivered some crosses into the box. With Kongolo tracking back gave Matty the confidence to go further forward.

Kongolo now needs a run in the team and thinks like final ball and shooting will improve.
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Post by: phil old leake on January 07, 2018, 10:56:26 am
Kongolo best performance by any player this season.  Outstanding
Let’s just get a player in who can score
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Post by: The Red Baron on January 07, 2018, 11:09:07 am
Kongolo best performance by any player this season.  Outstanding
Let’s just get a player in who can score

I wouldn't go that far, but he was our best player yesterday and it is easily the best game he's had for us. Still needs better decision making when he gets around the box.
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Post by: JonWallsend on January 07, 2018, 02:23:18 pm
Not Mason’s fault though as he has been great at right back in the last few matches. That is position. Up front we are lacking in the goal scoring department that is without question.


He played well at left back on Monday against probably the leagues best player

Yes but he was playing against a left footer in Maddison. Fergie said after it had been a deliberate ploy to counteract Maddison's left foot with Mason's right. The lad from Rochdale kept going outside him.

I just think yesterday was an off day from Mason. He can do a job at left back, he was vastly improved in second half. Too many times in first half his touch let him down and he didn't have easy passes around him and without the option to just shape one down the line in behind the full back, which is all Rochdale tried to do down both flanks, he became devoid of any confidence.

Think Rowe got in better positions in second half which made Mason's life a lot easier.

As I said just an off day
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Post by: drfchound on January 07, 2018, 05:36:02 pm
As has been said earlier, Blair had Kongolo helping him out.
Mason didn’t get the same from Rowe, especially in the first half.

I agree that Niall wasn’t at his best yesterday but he clearly isn’t a left sided player but he was asked to play there.

It says a lot about what the manager thinks about his other left back options.