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Title: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Retdon1 on January 17, 2018, 10:03:17 pm
Just seen on twitter an advert for a Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat.... why on earth are we putting on an event about that scum....



RM Sports Events proudly presents:

The Real Class of ’92

Keepmoat Stadium, Doncaster – Friday 16th March 2018

After an extremely successful and enjoyable event in April with MJK Sports Events, RM Sports Events are delighted to get the Class of 92 back together for an evening in Doncaster.

April 26, 1992, a date Leeds fans will never forget. It is the day LUFC won the old First Division title. RM Events are proud to bring you an audience with THE REAL CLASS OF 92 – a Class of ’92 that took the title in a blur of white.

Take a step back in time and relive the events that are now part of Leeds United’s history. Confirmed speakers for this spectacular event so far are:
MEL STERLAND, ROD WALLACE, TONY DORIGO, STEVE HODGE, JON NEWSOME AND CHRIS WHYTE.

Thats not all. As well as the six speakers confirmed (above) this list will increase.

On the night , each of the players present will be individually interviewed. After this all of our guests will take part in an audience Q/A session specific to the 92 season. Add in two extended videos from the historic title – winning season and you have an unmissable event for LUFC supporters – an event that will bring the past right up to the present.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Filo on January 17, 2018, 10:07:28 pm
Disgusting!

Bellend Road is inferior to the KM obviously
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: German Rover on January 17, 2018, 10:09:44 pm
Pays our players wages.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 17, 2018, 10:17:40 pm
As long as we're getting profit out of it, who cares!
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: andysly on January 17, 2018, 10:24:35 pm
Town full of Leeds fans.
Profit or not, poor decision
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 17, 2018, 10:27:54 pm
What a thing to do, we make ourselves look silly at times. You politely decline this thing everyday of the week. Long term outreach programme in schools around the borough and we host a Leeds circlejerk event in our own manor!
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 17, 2018, 10:31:41 pm
As long as we're getting profit out of it, who cares!

Deary me.

Why not let them advertise the program, put up a hoarding in the ground and have their supporters club annual gala in the Belle Vue bar. All profit aren't we.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: RoversAlias on January 17, 2018, 10:33:36 pm
Got to agree with CiM on this one.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Filo on January 17, 2018, 10:38:05 pm
Got to agree with CiM on this one.

Yes I have to agree as well, we're trying to turn youngsters away from Leeds, hosting events for them in our own ground is counter productive
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: RedJ on January 17, 2018, 10:58:07 pm
It's f**king embarrassing. What other professional club would host another club's legends night in their own ground, never mind one that's been taking away potential fans for decades?
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 17, 2018, 10:59:42 pm
It's obviously a bigger picture than just Doncaster Rovers.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Dagenham Rover on January 17, 2018, 11:05:56 pm
Got to agree with CiM on this one.

Yes I have to agree as well, we're trying to turn youngsters away from Leeds, hosting events for them in our own ground is counter productive

Exactly and I seem to remember it isn't the first time
something like this has been done it is so counterproductive but I suppose its what happens when you end up with a marketing department that is purely a marketing department and has no affinity with the history of the brand they are marketing ........what can we do ...shoot them :)
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: mushRTID on January 17, 2018, 11:11:47 pm
You couldn’t write this. Embarrassing
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: curiousgeorge on January 18, 2018, 12:01:12 am
That's me done if this happens
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: bobjimwilly on January 18, 2018, 12:38:40 am
That's me done if this happens

I thought we'd heard the last from you back in April, then again in October...
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 18, 2018, 12:47:04 am
This is a hugely regrettable mistake.

What on earth was the club thinking?

A truly idiotic decision. Really, really stupid.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: RoversAlias on January 18, 2018, 12:47:58 am
That's me done if this happens

I thought we'd heard the last from you back in April, then again in October...

Come on Rob, he only keeps coming back out of curiosity.

 :coat:
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 18, 2018, 05:23:57 am
Got to agree with CiM on this one.

Yes I have to agree as well, we're trying to turn youngsters away from Leeds, hosting events for them in our own ground is counter productive

Is having a ‘legends’ night at the KM really going to persuade anybody to follow Leeds instead of Donny? I doubt it
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: roversdude on January 18, 2018, 05:33:00 am
I honestly thought this was going to be our Wembley winning team
Embarrassing night
Btw it looks like Mel Sterland has been a legend of Greggs
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: anne honemous on January 18, 2018, 05:54:04 am
Do you think if we all rung the ticket hotline (which is some guy's mobile) at daft times of the day, it would get moved to a new location?

http://rmsportsevents.co.uk/contact-us/
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: 1879Rovers on January 18, 2018, 07:38:12 am
I think someone should ring up Leeds and ask them if they want to make it a double night of rememberance. The class of 2008 and how they were played off the park at Wembley.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Silkscarf on January 18, 2018, 08:05:39 am
Shocking decision. I grew up in the Dirty Leeds era - admittedly a fine group of players but forever tainted by Revie and his methods. Everybody at school claimed to be a Leeds fan. I always hated them for those 2 reasons.

Maybe we can organise an event at Elland Road to celebrate the Wembley play-off win.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: phil old leake on January 18, 2018, 08:07:02 am
Absolutely fxxxing disgraceful. I would like to suggest that as many people as possible contact the club and vent their frustrations
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: colfromdonny on January 18, 2018, 08:16:07 am
Will Hayter be guest of honour
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Pancho Regan on January 18, 2018, 08:23:09 am
To be honest, I'd be more embarrassed if I was a Leeds fan having to attend a celebration at another Club's stadium.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Dr Fundlekrotch on January 18, 2018, 08:29:49 am
Got to agree with CiM on this one.

Yes I have to agree as well, we're trying to turn youngsters away from Leeds, hosting events for them in our own ground is counter productive

Is having a ‘legends’ night at the KM really going to persuade anybody to follow Leeds instead of Donny? I doubt it

I can't see young Rovers fans having their heads turned by an event marking the fact that Leeds last won something a quarter of a century ago
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: glosterred on January 18, 2018, 08:31:08 am
Absolutely fxxxing disgraceful. I would like to suggest that as many people as possible contact the club and vent their frustrations

Why? The club will be making money out of Leeds fans, and what is wrong with that?


COYR
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: phil old leake on January 18, 2018, 08:34:18 am
My email has gone to the club with my views

Making money from Leeds fans and advertising their club.  Not for me
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Donnywolf on January 18, 2018, 08:44:08 am
To be honest, I'd be more embarrassed if I was a Leeds fan having to attend a celebration at another Club's stadium.

Exactly what I thought !

What kind of Team wants to hold a Legends event in someone elses Ground - bizarre !

Maybe we could turn up and sing "You're Hospitalities too big for you !"
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: selby on January 18, 2018, 08:56:44 am
  Just double the price of the drinks.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on January 18, 2018, 09:04:22 am
Will Hayter be guest of honour

Who's Will Hayter?   :coat:
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 18, 2018, 09:32:44 am
I wonder if the club has promised to promote this like they do for most other events/sponsors?
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Filo on January 18, 2018, 09:37:04 am
I wonder if the club has promised to promote this like they do for most other events/sponsors?

I also wonder if Leeds fans will end up on the database for ticketing, giving them access to the hime end, should we play them in a future cup game
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Donnywolf on January 18, 2018, 09:48:49 am
  Just double the price of the drinks.

... AND remove the Bins out of harms way !
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: DaveDRFC on January 18, 2018, 09:53:16 am
Seeing as it is a third party company selling tickets and not the club I'd say it's highly unlikely they will end up on the club's database.

The guy who runs these events is a huge supporter of Firefly and every one he puts on raises a great deal of money for them. So while people might not agree with something like this happening at the Keepmoat I would guess with Firefly being one of the the club's official charity partners this season part of the reason they are doing this is to help them out.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Donnywolf on January 18, 2018, 09:55:07 am
That changes things a lot. Great cause
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: IDM on January 18, 2018, 10:27:14 am
That's me done if this happens

Really?  this will be tomorrow's chip paper...

Whilst it is not ideal to host a function associated with a rival club at the KM, it's hardly the end of the world is it?
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Colin C No.3 on January 18, 2018, 10:40:39 am
Next month they're holding 'A Tribute to Margaret Thatcher' evening.

There's a theme here somewhere....no pun intended.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: wing commander on January 18, 2018, 01:08:04 pm
  I cant believe these comments from so many of you..Every event we host generates money into the club..The same club some of you moan about not spending enough on the team,we have the facilities to do it which on that night would be unused and because some of you don't like Leeds you expect the club to turn it down??? Seriously..!!!..

You cant expect to pick and choose what the stadium hosts because it doesn't suit you and then expect the owners to dip into there pockets to pay large fee's like with Whiteman...It's all part of the same deal...
   The idea that this event will encourage people to support Leeds United is frankly laughable..The only people going to this event at the cost that it will be will be associated with Leeds Utd in the first place...
   
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 18, 2018, 01:56:14 pm
WC, that depends if its the same people saying those two things, i'm certainly not one of them.

If it comes down to 'what would you do for money' then bend over and let Leeds United tickle my balls is not one of them. If its for charity it softens the blow but in that press release it doesn't state that.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: wing commander on January 18, 2018, 02:19:07 pm
  Well we disagree either way..Makes no difference to me..I think anybody wanting to turn profit away from the stadium and Rovers coffers just because it's a Leeds United legend event is being very selfish..
   We need to generate money and its the clubs and it's staff task to reduce the financial impact,so the money the owners have to subsidise our club is as minimal as it can be..
   Of course its very easy to have these principles and morals as regards these things when your not paying it isn't it....
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: selby on January 18, 2018, 02:28:39 pm
  I hope they have a good time,enjoy the evening, and go away and tell others what a great venue it is to stage an event, and come back again.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: DaveDRFC on January 18, 2018, 03:55:36 pm
It definitely does benefit charity, I do regular fundraising and occasional driving for Firefly and have met the guy who puts on these events a couple of times. The Firefly logo is on the event flyer for this and other events, and he has also raised money for other local charities such as When You Wish Upon A Star and Bella's Voice.

This is the 6th event he's put on at the Keepmoat so it's obviously a long standing partnership rather than some sort of slight on Rovers fans by daring to bring old Leeds players to the ground.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: knockers on January 18, 2018, 04:14:08 pm
My email has gone to the club with my views

Making money from Leeds fans and advertising their club.  Not for me


Phil, You're just embarrassing yourself
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Campsall rover on January 18, 2018, 04:17:44 pm
That's me done if this happens
Sorry that’s ridiculous.
I agree I think it is short term profit at the expense of long term loss.
If you are not happy send a letter or e mail the marketing dept with you concerns.
But to throw your bat away and abandon the club ???
 :rtid:
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: roversdude on January 18, 2018, 05:50:16 pm
Campsall he’s a series doner
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: phil old leake on January 18, 2018, 06:04:29 pm
Club response to my email

Dear Phil
 
Thank you for your email and your continued support of Doncaster Rovers.
 
The event in question is a private booking, which it looks like will be along the lines of an “audience with” type of event.
 
The private booking has been directly through Centerplate, our catering partners, who the club have given rights to sell conference facilities at the stadium, in return for this right, Centerplate provide the club with a revenue stream, all of which is contribution to club running costs, including the first team.
 
Whilst the event is being held at the stadium, the club itself have no direct involvement , neither with the event booking, the event logistics or the event promotion, it is simply a private booking for an event taken by Centerplate, which could have easily been held at the Dome or a local hotel, in the same way that a wedding or wake could be.
 
Whilst it is unfortunate from a fan rivalry perspective, that is it a Leeds United event in Doncaster,  I am aware that the event in question is in association with Firefly, a Doncaster charity, that supports Doncaster people who are suffering from cancer, ensuring they have means of transport to in order to get to hospitals that can provide the treatment needed. 
 
I would therefore urge you to look beyond the football rivalry on this and consider the people who will be benefitting from the funds raised from such an event, if you’re looking for high profile examples of rival fans coming together for greater good, then look no further than Liverpool and Everton and their supporter foodbanks, who have provided inspiration for our own supporters initiative.
 
Regards
 
Shaun
 
E-signature
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Pancho Regan on January 18, 2018, 06:39:30 pm
Excellent response from the Club.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Not Now Kato on January 18, 2018, 06:44:43 pm
Excellent Response from DRFC.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: RedJ on January 18, 2018, 06:49:10 pm
Nice to see Centreplate care about the people they're meant to be catering for then...


Though the fact that a local charity will benefit does make it easier to take.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: RoversAlias on January 18, 2018, 08:12:17 pm
Makes sense Centreplate are behind it, they're our main villains these days  :P
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Dagenham Rover on January 18, 2018, 11:19:37 pm
Club response to my email

Dear Phil
 
Thank you for your email and your continued support of Doncaster Rovers.
 
The event in question is a private booking, which it looks like will be along the lines of an “audience with” type of event.
 
The private booking has been directly through Centerplate, our catering partners, who the club have given rights to sell conference facilities at the stadium, in return for this right, Centerplate provide the club with a revenue stream, all of which is contribution to club running costs, including the first team.
 
Whilst the event is being held at the stadium, the club itself have no direct involvement , neither with the event booking, the event logistics or the event promotion, it is simply a private booking for an event taken by Centerplate, which could have easily been held at the Dome or a local hotel, in the same way that a wedding or wake could be.
 
Whilst it is unfortunate from a fan rivalry perspective, that is it a Leeds United event in Doncaster, I am aware that the event in question is in association with Firefly, a Doncaster charity, that supports Doncaster people who are suffering from cancer, ensuring they have means of transport to in order to get to hospitals that can provide the treatment needed.
 
I would therefore urge you to look beyond the football rivalry on this and consider the people who will be benefitting from the funds raised from such an event, if you’re looking for high profile examples of rival fans coming together for greater good, then look no further than Liverpool and Everton and their supporter foodbanks, who have provided inspiration for our own supporters initiative.
 
Regards
 
Shaun
 
E-signature
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 


The only thing I will pick up there is Firefly are one of Rovers  charity partners not just a local charity

But they are a fantastic local charity having been in the unfortunate position to have had to call on them
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: bobjimwilly on January 18, 2018, 11:31:50 pm
An expected professional response from Shaun. To all you moaning about the event; since when did Leeds become a big rival? And how on earth is it "advertising" Leeds? Every kid in Doncaster with an interest in football will already know Leeds are - this event will not convert one single person to be a Leeds fan who already aren't  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: SydneyRover on January 19, 2018, 12:06:38 am
An expected professional response from Shaun. To all you moaning about the event; since when did Leeds become a big rival? And how on earth is it "advertising" Leeds? Every kid in Doncaster with an interest in football will already know Leeds are - this event will not convert one single person to be a Leeds fan who already aren't  :rolleyes:
On past threads that has been a lot of chat about Leeds "stealing" our youngsters or our best players but that's what an academy is all about training footballers to either slot into the team or sell to support the club. We don't complain when we buy players from other clubs. I've been to plenty of Leeds games in the past but it hasn't stopped me supporting DR and there are surely others that have been to watch games not connected with DR.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 19, 2018, 12:23:36 am
It's not about stealing our young players, it's about stealing our young potential supporters.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: SydneyRover on January 19, 2018, 12:59:44 am
It's not about stealing our young players, it's about stealing our young potential supporters.
True BB, I take your point, but supporters that are drawn away would probably go anyway for any number of reasons, I am confident in fact more confident than I have been in the past that DR/Club Doncaster is being managed in a way that will grow the club for a future in the Championship and there is nothing that grows support like winning.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 19, 2018, 01:03:27 am
I'll go along with that SydneyRover, hope you're right.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: bobjimwilly on January 19, 2018, 09:56:02 am
But this event isn't aimed at young "potential" supporters, nor will any be there, unless they have been dragged by their parents, in which case they'll more than likely become weeds fans anyway. This whole thread isn't a storm in a tea-cup, more like an egg cup.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 19, 2018, 10:33:44 am
Absolutely, and it saddens me that people are too willing to attack the club and ask questions later. It drags us down to the knuckle-dragging level of some of the supporters of club we love to hate up the road.

This event will have no effect whatsoever on the procurement of young fans. As someone said above it's tomorrows chip paper. Rise above it.

Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: wesisback on January 19, 2018, 11:32:59 am
Not sure I'd go that far. That Centreplate under the name of Keepmoat would hold this event is still very poorly thought out. It could have been held at the Dome and one of Doncasters other venues. This doesn't make it a coup on Rovers part.
I do however think the response from Shaun is well thought out and should put the arguments to bed. While it's a shit idea and I can understand the dismay its not worth staging mass boycotts and rioting on the night. 
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 19, 2018, 11:45:21 am
My response to Sydney Rover was regarding past threads involving L**ds 'stealing' our youngsters, NOT this thread.

I have no problem with L**ds wishing to use our superior to theirs media facilities. It should be them that's embarrassed, not us.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: DRFC-Hanksie on January 19, 2018, 12:19:44 pm
I think someone should ring up Leeds and ask them if they want to make it a double night of rememberance. The class of 2008 and how they were played off the park at Wembley.

Quality!
We could go as far as played off the park at Elland Road that year too.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 19, 2018, 07:31:08 pm
This is disgusting and embarrassing. Who ever allowed this needs shooting and not toubgue in cheek either. First class prick who ever has let this happen.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Pancho Regan on January 19, 2018, 07:37:12 pm
Sorry Padge but that is rubbish.

Have you read this whole thread? If there’s any embarrassment I would suggest it’s for Leeds fans having to use our excellent facilities for their celebration!

And a local Doncaster charity will benefit.

I have a deep dislike for Leeds but I don’t see any reason to get so upset about this. Turn it around and see it as an embarrassment for them, not for us.

Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Donnybob on January 19, 2018, 10:55:56 pm
Maybe they can entice Jim Bowen out of retirement to tell impressionable Donny kids raised on negative forum rubbish that, 'Here's what you could have won'.
PS: The Damned United will be performed at the Cast Theatre in June.
PPS: No news of them opening a club shop in the town centre... yet.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: IDM on January 20, 2018, 12:02:11 am
This is disgusting and embarrassing. Who ever allowed this needs shooting and not toubgue in cheek either. First class prick who ever has let this happen.

The only thing that's embarrassing here is posts like yours.. Have a word with yourself..
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: hoolahoop on January 20, 2018, 01:53:42 am
Got to admit that as good a cause as firefly is ;  I would prefer that we didn't go ahead at OUR  place
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 20, 2018, 03:15:20 am
I really do despair that some of us feel threatened and inferior to anything associated to Leeds United.

I do wonder who's suffering from small dick syndrome at times.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: NickDRFC on January 20, 2018, 08:46:55 am
I really do despair that some of us feel threatened and inferior to anything associated to Leeds United.

I do wonder who's suffering from small dick syndrome at times.

I think it’s pretty clear that Leeds fans are the biggest dicks.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Donnywolf on January 20, 2018, 09:21:28 am
I think someone should ring up Leeds and ask them if they want to make it a double night of rememberance. The class of 2008 and how they were played off the park at Wembley.

Quality!
We could go as far as played off the park at Elland Road that year too.


Very true ... that sequence near Left Corner of field (our end) where we had a Leeds Player chasing in a triangle trying to get the ball made me chuckle then and still does !

Also Dennis Wise saying we would be "trapped like Rabbits in a cars headlights" and Richie Wellens laughing after the game saying "what did we have to be afraid of - we were playing their Team not their Crowd"
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Donnybob on January 20, 2018, 09:39:30 am
Just because 'it's for charadee' does not excuse such blatant marketing of a rival business in OUR back yard. It simply perpetuates a myth.

I can understand the draw of glamour clubs at the cutting edge of the Prem. I can see that once upon a time the Damned United had a little bit of glory (more often than not as bridesmaids failing at the final hurdle) but right now and for the past quarter century they're strictly second division, practising their trade where we have ambition to be within 2 to 5 years.

Would we be happy with billboards around town promoting Rotherham, Barnsley or Scunthorpe? No. This fodder for the traitors in our midst. Fodder for future generations of ultimately deluded 'glory' seekers.

There are many ways to be rude. Dressing it up as charity is about as low as it comes, pandering to a bunch of locals who have turned their backs on what they regard is their local tinpot team.

It is not about feeling inferior in any way. It is not about regular followers being tempted away. This is the bully next door exerting his dominance, showing off, because he can. Hosting this and similar functions encourages him, gives him the feeling of superiority he needs.

This is the same friend that infiltrated our territory at Wembley and laughed at us, does so whenever they play at the Keepmoat. Here he goes again.

On principle it should never be allowed or encouraged.

Go on, use bravado and pretend it doesn't matter. But just ask yourself, what would be the reaction to an evening at Elland Road celebrating Doncaster's win at Wembley? Even if it was for a good cause?

Simply wouldn't happen. Shouldn't happen here. That evening would be better spent promoting our own legends with a dedicated local crowd, not enhancing the reputation of a bunch of scumbags, even if it is for a good cause.

It's just wrong on any level you look at it.

The bin kickers fans have disgraced themselves all over Europe so let's invite them here! Unbelievable Jeff, unbelievable.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: silent majority on January 20, 2018, 09:41:56 am
Wrong by who? And who is this bully?
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: IDM on January 20, 2018, 09:45:53 am
Got to admit that as good a cause as firefly is ;  I would prefer that we didn't go ahead at OUR  place

Surely it is for Leeds fans to be disappointed and embarrassed that "their" event is held elsewhere?

There are far more important things to get wound up about..

Donnybob, have a word with yourself!  Spend some time with your kids, take your wife out for a meal, go to watch Rovers at Shrewsbury.. etc, etc..
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Donnybob on January 20, 2018, 09:51:58 am
You're joking, surely? I've great respect for the work you do but come on. Perhaps you enjoy being belittled by opposition fans from our own town. Go on, give them a pat on the head, they are nice boys really. All that evil stuff on YouTube is made up like the moon landings. They didn't beat Rovers fans up in the service stations on the way to and from Wembley. Oh no, that was just letting off steam, etc, etc, etc. Lovely people.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Donnybob on January 20, 2018, 10:04:23 am
Quote: Donnybob, have a word with yourself! 

DIM, sorry auto correct did that, not me. Go f*** yourself you patronising b******! Perhaps I should add a smiley after that, just to show this evening of pure joy does not cause division amongst what is a tiny unrepresentative minority of Doncaster followers.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: silent majority on January 20, 2018, 10:05:14 am
Being angry with Leeds fans about certain issues is one thing, but who are you getting angry with about this event? Its not us, DRFC, who are organising this and promoting it.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Filo on January 20, 2018, 10:10:58 am
For me, regardless who organises it or who promotes it, it is a big piss take to host this in our Stadium, it's clearly targeted at the Donny Whites, many of whome have never seen their "legends" (although the names mentioned can hardly be labelled legends). There are many other venues around the Doncaster area this could have taken place, but they chose the KM, IT's an insult in my opinion
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: IDM on January 20, 2018, 10:13:55 am
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: silent majority on January 20, 2018, 01:55:24 pm
Some people are easily insulted then.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: i_ateallthepies on January 20, 2018, 05:35:57 pm
I really do despair that some of us feel threatened and inferior to anything associated to Leeds United.

I do wonder who's suffering from small dick syndrome at times.

I think it’s pretty clear that Leeds fans are the biggest dicks.

Debatable that Nick.  Reading this thread, we have a few of our own.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Pancho Regan on January 20, 2018, 08:08:57 pm
Just because 'it's for charadee' does not excuse such blatant marketing of a rival business in OUR back yard. It simply perpetuates a myth.

I can understand the draw of glamour clubs at the cutting edge of the Prem. I can see that once upon a time the Damned United had a little bit of glory (more often than not as bridesmaids failing at the final hurdle) but right now and for the past quarter century they're strictly second division, practising their trade where we have ambition to be within 2 to 5 years.

Would we be happy with billboards around town promoting Rotherham, Barnsley or Scunthorpe? No. This fodder for the traitors in our midst. Fodder for future generations of ultimately deluded 'glory' seekers.

There are many ways to be rude. Dressing it up as charity is about as low as it comes, pandering to a bunch of locals who have turned their backs on what they regard is their local tinpot team.

It is not about feeling inferior in any way. It is not about regular followers being tempted away. This is the bully next door exerting his dominance, showing off, because he can. Hosting this and similar functions encourages him, gives him the feeling of superiority he needs.

This is the same friend that infiltrated our territory at Wembley and laughed at us, does so whenever they play at the Keepmoat. Here he goes again.

On principle it should never be allowed or encouraged.

Go on, use bravado and pretend it doesn't matter. But just ask yourself, what would be the reaction to an evening at Elland Road celebrating Doncaster's win at Wembley? Even if it was for a good cause?

Simply wouldn't happen. Shouldn't happen here. That evening would be better spent promoting our own legends with a dedicated local crowd, not enhancing the reputation of a bunch of scumbags, even if it is for a good cause.

It's just wrong on any level you look at it.

The bin kickers fans have disgraced themselves all over Europe so let's invite them here! Unbelievable Jeff, unbelievable.

I completely and utterly disagree with you.

That’s more polite than saying ‘what a load of rubbish’ which is what I almost wrote.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Wellington Vaults on January 21, 2018, 11:49:13 am
The original event was held at Elland Road earlier in the year and someone obviously made some money out of it (the tickets weren’t cheap and it was a sell out).  So now the organisers are taking it to South Yorkshire where they know they have a target audience.  Nothing but a glorified “Sportsman’s Evening”.

At a time when sporting venues should be looking at every possible means of maximising revenue, seems a decent initiative to me.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 21, 2018, 12:32:25 pm
It will make money yes. Doncaster Rovers are the 4th highest maybe even 5th most supported team In Doncaster. Should look to do 1 for Liverpool, Man Utd and Sheffield Wednesday. For everyone to see their heroes they’ve only ever seen on TV
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: IDM on January 21, 2018, 12:35:00 pm
Do you not realise that the more you post opinions like that, the more you fuel them?

This is not a DRFC event, its someone else paying money to use our facilities, for a side that played 26 years ago..

This really isn't as big an issue as you're making out..
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Campsall rover on January 21, 2018, 02:38:58 pm
Do you not realise that the more you post opinions like that, the more you fuel them?

This is not a DRFC event, its someone else paying money to use our facilities, for a side that played 26 years ago..

This really isn't as big an issue as you're making out..
What a fuss about nothing. This obsession with Leeds United is nauseating.
It’s almost as if they have a hold over some of our supporters. Get a grip.
Yes I would agree they have some moronic ‘fans’ but it really is only a minority, believe me it really is a minority. Most are proper football supporters.
DRFC also have a minority of moronic ‘fans’ as do all clubs. Most at all clubs are proper football fans.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: wesisback on January 21, 2018, 03:26:04 pm
Could the club look at selling Leeds shirts in the club shop? At a time when clubs should be maximising every source of revenue possible it seems a decent initiative to me.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 21, 2018, 05:04:44 pm
It will make money yes. Doncaster Rovers are the 4th highest maybe even 5th most supported team In Doncaster. Should look to do 1 for Liverpool, Man Utd and Sheffield Wednesday. For everyone to see their heroes they’ve only ever seen on TV

Silly comment
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: NickDRFC on January 21, 2018, 08:09:12 pm
Could the club look at selling Leeds shirts in the club shop? At a time when clubs should be maximising every source of revenue possible it seems a decent initiative to me.

Absolutely because if I was a Leeds fan and wanted to buy a shirt the first place I’d look is in a different club shop. Plus I’d imagine that most fans on a match day would be looking to buy a Leeds shirt rather than any other memorabilia.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: wesisback on January 21, 2018, 09:28:19 pm
Could the club look at selling Leeds shirts in the club shop? At a time when clubs should be maximising every source of revenue possible it seems a decent initiative to me.

Absolutely because if I was a Leeds fan and wanted to buy a shirt the first place I’d look is in a different club shop. Plus I’d imagine that most fans on a match day would be looking to buy a Leeds shirt rather than any other memorabilia.
No I wholeheartedly agree. Why would Leeds fans be looking for anything to do with their team at the home of Doncaster Rovers. It's a head scratcher isn't it?
Of course its down to the club (or Centreplate if your business is inclined to hide behind third parties) to decide whether to host another clubs events. If they'd sooner ensure the income comes streaming in than maintaining a bit of dignity its down to them.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: phil old leake on January 22, 2018, 02:10:36 pm
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/fans-upset-as-doncaster-rovers-host-event-celebrating-rivals-leeds-united-1-8972740

Shame they spoilt it by advertising the night with a phone number at the end
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: IDM on January 22, 2018, 02:15:55 pm
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Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: glosterred on January 22, 2018, 02:37:59 pm
To miss quote Churchill, never in the field of forums has so much crap been written by so few....... no doubt they will never surrender



COYR
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: German Rover on January 22, 2018, 02:49:31 pm
https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/fans-upset-as-doncaster-rovers-host-event-celebrating-rivals-leeds-united-1-8972740

Shame they spoilt it by advertising the night with a phone number at the end

Shame they didn't mention the charity it's for either. Lazy journalism at its worst.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 22, 2018, 03:28:24 pm
Well, I'm certainly not 'upset' or have 'blasted' the club as the Free Press suggest, but I simply think it was not a sensible idea to host the event at the Keepmoat.

And the defense 'we should do anything for money' and 'they'll be more embarrassed than us' has not convinced me otherwise.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: wesisback on January 22, 2018, 03:36:07 pm
Do UKIP still hold their party conference in Doncaster?
Someone should let them know there's a venue that puts the pounds before their integrity.
Anyone attending that should also be more embarrassed than those not.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Axholme Lion on January 22, 2018, 03:39:15 pm
It was good to see them crying their eyes out at Elland Road on Saturday after being 3-2 up in the 89th minute. What a laugh we had, best away match ever! Ha ha ha.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: WheatleyRover on January 22, 2018, 09:21:06 pm
Would not have happened under John Ryan, its embarrassing hosting another clubs event at your ground, especially when its Leeds and all the Donny Whites.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: German Rover on January 23, 2018, 08:25:21 am
Would not have happened under John Ryan, its embarrassing hosting another clubs event at your ground, especially when its Leeds and all the Donny Whites.

It probably would have. The catering is sub contracted to centreplate, they've organised it.  It's therefore nothing to do with the club it just happens to be in a part of the stadium where we play.  Also don't forget it's raising money for a very worthwhile cause. Have a look at what bluebell trust do before claiming you are mortified with the whole event. I'm not embarrassed and neither should you be. 

Also John Ryan is gone, he's enjoying a well deserved retirement and he isn't coming back.  Can we stop talking about him like some white knight who'll come to town and save us all from the Donny whites.  It's simply not going to happen.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Lifelong supporter on January 23, 2018, 12:20:18 pm
According to the Club Doncaster spokesman they 'have given rights to sell conference facilities at the stadium, in return for this right, Centerplate provide the club with a revenue stream, all of which is contribution to club running costs, including the first team.'
That's all fine and dandy but does that mean we have no veto on any event held then?
For instance what if the EDL or any other such organisation wants to hold a rally there?
If that is the case, and we have sold away our rights to decide what events are held at the stadium, perhaps Club Doncaster could tell us just how much we are getting for this deal...and how much exactly is going to the first team?   

Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: German Rover on January 23, 2018, 03:39:41 pm
According to the Club Doncaster spokesman they 'have given rights to sell conference facilities at the stadium, in return for this right, Centerplate provide the club with a revenue stream, all of which is contribution to club running costs, including the first team.'
That's all fine and dandy but does that mean we have no veto on any event held then?
For instance what if the EDL or any other such organisation wants to hold a rally there?
If that is the case, and we have sold away our rights to decide what events are held at the stadium, perhaps Club Doncaster could tell us just how much we are getting for this deal...and how much exactly is going to the first team?   



It's not the EDL though is it?

It's a fundraiser for a childrens hospice.  The money raised goes to help support sick children.  if you think some overly sensitive middle aged mens embarrassment is more important than helping kids in need then you are flat out wrong!

I think a better question would be the one about your motives.  you have regularly attacked the Club Doncaster concept in the past as well as the people who have implemented it.  So why are you so bothered?
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: wesisback on January 23, 2018, 04:06:10 pm
Being for Charity doesn't make an event infallible and the line 'if you think some overly sensitive middle aged mens embarrassment is more important than helping kids in need then you are flat out wrong' is appalling. Nobody is suggesting that these charities don't need helping. What they're saying is that both the Rovers commercial team and Centreplate are an embarrassment for allowing such an event on in the home of Doncaster Rovers when they could have organised one for the club who reside there.
It may not be the EDL but you know it would be the same old Club apologists on the thread giving it the 'if its money into the pot' line.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: NickDRFC on January 23, 2018, 06:00:24 pm
Don’t get me wrong I think it is an overreaction from many, but German Rover - I was as under the impression that it was for Firefly rather than Bluebell Wood. I’m also under the impression that it is “associated with” the charity, rather than being a fundraising event (could be wrong but it might be the case that a portion of profits are donated rather than everything raised after costs - perhaps someone in the know could clarify?)
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Lifelong supporter on January 23, 2018, 06:05:30 pm
According to the Club Doncaster spokesman they 'have given rights to sell conference facilities at the stadium, in return for this right, Centerplate provide the club with a revenue stream, all of which is contribution to club running costs, including the first team.'
That's all fine and dandy but does that mean we have no veto on any event held then?
For instance what if the EDL or any other such organisation wants to hold a rally there?
If that is the case, and we have sold away our rights to decide what events are held at the stadium, perhaps Club Doncaster could tell us just how much we are getting for this deal...and how much exactly is going to the first team?   



It's not the EDL though is it?

It's a fundraiser for a childrens hospice.  The money raised goes to help support sick children.  if you think some overly sensitive middle aged mens embarrassment is more important than helping kids in need then you are flat out wrong!

I think a better question would be the one about your motives.  you have regularly attacked the Club Doncaster concept in the past as well as the people who have implemented it.  So why are you so bothered?

I'm flattered that you appear to pay close attention to my posts.
The problem is, you seem to have misread them.
I don't recall 'regularly attacking' the Club Doncaster concept at all, or the people who have implemented it.
What I would like to see is greater transparency when it comes to CD.
Who knew that Centerplate had been sold exclusive rights to sell conference facilities at the stadium and whether the terms of the deal allow a veto by Rovers?
Who knows what those rights have been sold for?
How do we assess whether we are getting value for money if we don't know?
That's why I'm bothered.
As for questioning my motives I just don't understand.
I'm a lifelong supporter.
Of Doncaster Rovers that is...not necessarily Club Doncaster.
If CD benefits DR that's great.
I'd just like it to be spelled out exactly how, and in monetary terms by how much?
Is there something dreadfully wrong with that?
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: NickDRFC on January 23, 2018, 06:09:49 pm
According to the Club Doncaster spokesman they 'have given rights to sell conference facilities at the stadium, in return for this right, Centerplate provide the club with a revenue stream, all of which is contribution to club running costs, including the first team.'
That's all fine and dandy but does that mean we have no veto on any event held then?
For instance what if the EDL or any other such organisation wants to hold a rally there?
If that is the case, and we have sold away our rights to decide what events are held at the stadium, perhaps Club Doncaster could tell us just how much we are getting for this deal...and how much exactly is going to the first team?   



It's not the EDL though is it?

It's a fundraiser for a childrens hospice.  The money raised goes to help support sick children.  if you think some overly sensitive middle aged mens embarrassment is more important than helping kids in need then you are flat out wrong!

I think a better question would be the one about your motives.  you have regularly attacked the Club Doncaster concept in the past as well as the people who have implemented it.  So why are you so bothered?

I'm flattered that you appear to pay close attention to my posts.
The problem is, you seem to have misread them.
I don't recall 'regularly attacking' the Club Doncaster concept at all, or the people who have implemented it.
What I would like to see is greater transparency when it comes to CD.
Who knew that Centerplate had been sold exclusive rights to sell conference facilities at the stadium and whether the terms of the deal allow a veto by Rovers?
Who knows what those rights have been sold for?
How do we assess whether we are getting value for money if we don't know?
That's why I'm bothered.
As for questioning my motives I just don't understand.
I'm a lifelong supporter.
Of Doncaster Rovers that is...not necessarily Club Doncaster.
If CD benefits DR that's great.
I'd just like it to be spelled out exactly how, and in monetary terms by how much?
Is there something dreadfully wrong with that?

Going off at a real tangent here, but to answer one of your questions “how do we assess whether we are getting value for money”...we don’t. It’s up to the business owners to assess whether they are getting value for money out of a deal like this, and if they aren’t it’s up to them to pull the plug or find someone (ie the CEO) who will find them better deals. The ins and outs of stuff like this, we have no right or need to know.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: hoolahoop on January 23, 2018, 07:19:01 pm
For me, regardless who organises it or who promotes it, it is a big piss take to host this in our Stadium, it's clearly targeted at the Donny Whites, many of whome have never seen their "legends" (although the names mentioned can hardly be labelled legends). There are many other venues around the Doncaster area this could have taken place, but they chose the KM, IT's an insult in my opinion

I don't often agree with every word you write but I agree with every word of the above.
These are the same scumbags who thought it was funny 1) throwing cheap beer over my 9 year old on the way to the final. 2) thought it funny to run riot and stealing in those same service stations on the way back again intimidating youngsters .

Finally these are scum fans that feel they can run riot wherever and whenever they want.
They need deporting to Poland, where they can try all that shite there and see what happens. They are pathetic and it's usually the " DonnyShites " who are their ringleaders ; gobbing all over youngsters, soaking 9 year olds with beer, frightening young and old alike with their pack like mentality ......real bigly lads.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: hoolahoop on January 23, 2018, 07:24:57 pm
Just because 'it's for charadee' does not excuse such blatant marketing of a rival business in OUR back yard. It simply perpetuates a myth.

I can understand the draw of glamour clubs at the cutting edge of the Prem. I can see that once upon a time the Damned United had a little bit of glory (more often than not as bridesmaids failing at the final hurdle) but right now and for the past quarter century they're strictly second division, practising their trade where we have ambition to be within 2 to 5 years.

Would we be happy with billboards around town promoting Rotherham, Barnsley or Scunthorpe? No. This fodder for the traitors in our midst. Fodder for future generations of ultimately deluded 'glory' seekers.

There are many ways to be rude. Dressing it up as charity is about as low as it comes, pandering to a bunch of locals who have turned their backs on what they regard is their local tinpot team.

It is not about feeling inferior in any way. It is not about regular followers being tempted away. This is the bully next door exerting his dominance, showing off, because he can. Hosting this and similar functions encourages him, gives him the feeling of superiority he needs.

This is the same friend that infiltrated our territory at Wembley and laughed at us, does so whenever they play at the Keepmoat. Here he goes again.

On principle it should never be allowed or encouraged.

Go on, use bravado and pretend it doesn't matter. But just ask yourself, what would be the reaction to an evening at Elland Road celebrating Doncaster's win at Wembley? Even if it was for a good cause?

Simply wouldn't happen. Shouldn't happen here. That evening would be better spent promoting our own legends with a dedicated local crowd, not enhancing the reputation of a bunch of scumbags, even if it is for a good cause.

It's just wrong on any level you look at it.

The bin kickers fans have disgraced themselves all over Europe so let's invite them here! Unbelievable Jeff, unbelievable.

I completely and utterly disagree with you.

That’s more polite than saying ‘what a load of rubbish’ which is what I almost wrote.

And I totally and utterly agree with him being at the sharp end of that behaviour. I wont forgive them for spoiling our day out .
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: DaveDRFC on January 24, 2018, 05:13:53 pm
The guy organising this event has posted the following on Facebook after the article in the Free Press this week. Once again confirms the main reason for the event is to raise money for Firefly.

'After a couple of days of publicity in the Free Press regarding my event, I think it's time I cleared a few things up and said my bit as the event seems to have upset a number of people...

It is my event, not Doncaster Rovers or Leeds Utd.
Why Doncaster, not in Leeds?? I am a Doncaster based event business, a friend of mine had the class of 92 in Leeds last year and I wanted to bring them back together for another one of my charity events.
The event is supporting a local charity Firefly who I'm sure 99% of people are aware of.

It was never intended to upset anybody by having the event at the Keepmoat as I have had many of my events there, it's a venue that suits my events and also one that financially is cheaper to hire than most in Doncaster.

I was never contacted by the Free Press for comment and it's quite annoying the way they went about it. I appreciate everyone has their own opinions but be assured the sole aim of this event is to support my chosen charity Firefly.

Hopefully this clears a few things up and hopefully now i can concentrate on making the event as successful as possible and people who can and want to can support the event.

Thank you'
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Donnybob on January 24, 2018, 05:31:33 pm
So if the goal is purely to raise money for charity, cancel the Class of 92 and organise a different attraction that more suitably reflects the town of Doncaster. One that folk like me would be happy to support. Using charadee to excuse poor judgement is crass. There are a million other ways to raise funding that don't pander to the club that is almost certainly rated by Rovers supporters as the least liked in the land. Were this the true Class of 92, from t'wilderness over t'Pennines I could have accepted that, admittedly through gritted teeth. But hang on. Will we make a penny out of the event? Are we the ones leaving ourselves open as the club that scammed a charity out of money? If we don't then the only justification for hosting is lost. If we do, how does that make us look?
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 24, 2018, 07:00:32 pm
So if the goal is purely to raise money for charity, cancel the Class of 92 and organise a different attraction that more suitably reflects the town of Doncaster. One that folk like me would be happy to support. Using charadee to excuse poor judgement is crass. There are a million other ways to raise funding that don't pander to the club that is almost certainly rated by Rovers supporters as the least liked in the land. Were this the true Class of 92, from t'wilderness over t'Pennines I could have accepted that, admittedly through gritted teeth. But hang on. Will we make a penny out of the event? Are we the ones leaving ourselves open as the club that scammed a charity out of money? If we don't then the only justification for hosting is lost. If we do, how does that make us look?
 

Nobody's stopping you doing exactly what you suggest, if you feel that strongly about it, instead of knocking someone else's efforts? The organiser of this obviously does feel strongly enough about what he's organised and got off his arse and done it.

PS I wonder what badge these 'Legends' will be wearing?:lol:
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: IDM on January 24, 2018, 07:05:19 pm
That molehill is getting bigger!!

:facepalm:
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Herbert Anchovy on January 24, 2018, 07:06:47 pm
So if the goal is purely to raise money for charity, cancel the Class of 92 and organise a different attraction that more suitably reflects the town of Doncaster. One that folk like me would be happy to support. Using charadee to excuse poor judgement is crass. There are a million other ways to raise funding that don't pander to the club that is almost certainly rated by Rovers supporters as the least liked in the land. Were this the true Class of 92, from t'wilderness over t'Pennines I could have accepted that, admittedly through gritted teeth. But hang on. Will we make a penny out of the event? Are we the ones leaving ourselves open as the club that scammed a charity out of money? If we don't then the only justification for hosting is lost. If we do, how does that make us look?

Maybe we could develop a hotline to you Bob so anyone wishing to organise a charity event could run it by you for approval first? Alternatively you could always organise your own.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: johnny rovers on January 24, 2018, 08:59:51 pm
Do UKIP still hold their party conference in Doncaster?
Someone should let them know there's a venue that puts the pounds before their integrity.
Anyone attending that should also be more embarrassed than those not.

How undemocratic😏
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Lifelong supporter on January 24, 2018, 11:41:12 pm
NickDRFC  'Going off at a real tangent here, but to answer one of your questions “how do we assess whether we are getting value for money”...we don’t. It’s up to the business owners to assess whether they are getting value for money out of a deal like this, and if they aren’t it’s up to them to pull the plug or find someone (ie the CEO) who will find them better deals. The ins and outs of stuff like this, we have no right or need to know.
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Are you saying we have no right or need to know anything about Club Doncaster?
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Muttley on January 25, 2018, 07:33:29 am
It's a private company, so technically we have no right to know anything beyond what is required by law to be published in their annual accounts.

If you really want to know more, you could always match the current owners' investments and I'm sure they would welcome you on to the board of directors with open arms.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: IDM on January 25, 2018, 07:59:52 am
NickDRFC  'Going off at a real tangent here, but to answer one of your questions “how do we assess whether we are getting value for money”...we don’t. It’s up to the business owners to assess whether they are getting value for money out of a deal like this, and if they aren’t it’s up to them to pull the plug or find someone (ie the CEO) who will find them better deals. The ins and outs of stuff like this, we have no right or need to know.

Are you saying we have no right or need to know anything about Club Doncaster?
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That's not how I read it - change the word to "everything" and your sentence is more accurate..
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: DonnyOsmond on January 25, 2018, 08:06:02 am
I'm pro making money for charity which I assume everyone would be.

However, I don't think Leeds fans would be happy if their was an event at Elland Road of the Man Utd team of 99. A mid table League One team doesn't want a bigger club from 40 miles away in the league above in our own back yard and I assume a mid table Championship team wouldn't want a bigger club from 40 miles away in the league above them in their back yard either.

To me, this guy should have either booked somewhere in Leeds/Wakefield or booked someone else at the Keepmoat.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: bobjimwilly on January 25, 2018, 10:30:53 am
Do some of you really see our "rivalry" with Leeds the same as Leeds v Man U?  :facepalm:

to me, this event is for a few Leeds fans in/around Donny to get together and meet their Legends of yesteryear. Absolutely no danger to our fan base, no danger of attracting new fans from Donny, but it will raise money for the club and a local charity. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: anne honemous on January 25, 2018, 10:57:33 am
Do some of you really see our "rivalry" with Leeds the same as Leeds v Man U?  :facepalm:

to me, this event is for a few Leeds fans in/around Donny to get together and meet their Legends of yesteryear. Absolutely no danger to our fan base, no danger of attracting new fans from Donny, but it will raise money for the club and a local charity. Am I missing something?

There's similarities.

Leeds don't give a monkeys about us, even though some of our fans are obsessed about them.

Likewise, Man United fans don't give a monkeys about Leeds, even though some Leeds fans will class them as the biggest rivals.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: bobjimwilly on January 25, 2018, 11:02:07 am
but Leeds were, at one point, the big rivals to Man U, and Man U fans would have felt the same way back then. We have never been big rivals to Leeds.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: anne honemous on January 25, 2018, 11:38:48 am
but Leeds were, at one point, the big rivals to Man U, and Man U fans would have felt the same way back then. We have never been big rivals to Leeds.

Think Man United's biggest rivals over the years have been Liverpool. Man City second biggest rivals, then they've probably given a passing thought to their noisy neighbours on t'other side of hill.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: DonnyOsmond on January 25, 2018, 11:40:46 am
but Leeds were, at one point, the big rivals to Man U, and Man U fans would have felt the same way back then. We have never been big rivals to Leeds.

But right now? You shouldn't promote any other club in your own town IMO. Its like the Leeds stuff in HMV aswell. If there's opportunities there's always gonna be a chance kids choose them over us.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Campsall rover on January 25, 2018, 12:20:43 pm
I really don’t see all what all the fuss is about. This event is NOT going to influence the present or next generation of Doncaster football supporters.
Doncaster has got Leeds, Sheffield Wed, Sheffield Utd, Man Utd, Liverpool, and other Clubs supporters living in the Borough.
But not as many as there were 15/20/30/40 or even 50 years ago.
DRFC is in the strongest position overall ( not talking about league position ) than it has probably ever been in its history.
A proper well respected and well run football club that cares about its local community.
This obsession with Leeds and their supporters Is quite frankly imo
pathetic, sad, and totally ridiculous.
DRFC has its own identity so let’s concentrate on DRFC.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: DonnyOsmond on January 25, 2018, 12:34:01 pm
I dont think its an obsession with Leeds. We'd be pissed off if it was Wednesday, Blades, Hull, any club...
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: IDM on January 25, 2018, 12:40:42 pm
Would we?

I might not be too enamoured if it was Scunthorpe or Rotherham, but generally I'd just get on wiht my life an dnot worry about it!
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: wesisback on January 25, 2018, 01:07:24 pm
I'm not sure I'd be as fussed if it was Hull, nor do I think the event would be held if it was Hull. It's because there is so many Leeds fans in Doncaster that it's being held and also the reason I'm dismayed its being held at our ground.
I'm also consistent that I won't shop in a HMV (not that anyone does anymore) due to their Leeds section that once resided in their Doncaster shop.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: anne honemous on January 25, 2018, 01:12:21 pm
I'm not sure I'd be as fussed if it was Hull, nor do I think the event would be held if it was Hull. It's because there is so many Leeds fans in Doncaster that it's being held and also the reason I'm dismayed its being held at our ground.
I'm also consistent that I won't shop in a HMV (not that anyone does anymore) due to their Leeds section that once resided in their Doncaster shop.

How about this then, if you've got such a bee in your bonnet about it.

Ring the geezer who has organised it and buy all the tickets - that way only a few Leeds fans get to see it (assuming some have bought tickets already) and the event is, errr, a bit crap.

Or alternatively, continue to moan about it....
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: RedJ on January 25, 2018, 01:15:38 pm
You're clearly not a buyer as a profession then. Buy them all up and sell above face value if you've any sense. :laugh:
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 25, 2018, 01:35:10 pm
I dont think its an obsession with Leeds. We'd be pissed off if it was Wednesday, Blades, Hull, any club...

Don't include me in that 'we'. I couldn't give a shit about it myself, but I wish them well in raising as much money for charity as possible.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: wesisback on January 25, 2018, 01:39:16 pm
I'm not sure I'd be as fussed if it was Hull, nor do I think the event would be held if it was Hull. It's because there is so many Leeds fans in Doncaster that it's being held and also the reason I'm dismayed its being held at our ground.
I'm also consistent that I won't shop in a HMV (not that anyone does anymore) due to their Leeds section that once resided in their Doncaster shop.

How about this then, if you've got such a bee in your bonnet about it.

Ring the geezer who has organised it and buy all the tickets - that way only a few Leeds fans get to see it (assuming some have bought tickets already) and the event is, errr, a bit crap.

Or alternatively, continue to moan about it....
I'm not responsible for the club/Centreplate/organisers lack of judgement.
I also reserve my right to moan about said lack of judgement.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: RoversAlias on January 25, 2018, 02:23:39 pm
I'm also consistent that I won't shop in a HMV (not that anyone does anymore) due to their Leeds section that once resided in their Doncaster shop.

This is a bit much, isn't it? I worked at HMV at the time that stuff was sold and it was because the manager was a Leeds fan, and sadly enough the garb sold which justified him putting it in the store. That just made me dislike the "Donny Whites" more for it being justified rather than put me off the shop due to a small bit of business savvy.

I don't believe they have sold Leeds merch since management changed anyway.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Iberian Red on January 25, 2018, 02:33:29 pm
According to the Club Doncaster spokesman they 'have given rights to sell conference facilities at the stadium, in return for this right, Centerplate provide the club with a revenue stream, all of which is contribution to club running costs, including the first team.'
That's all fine and dandy but does that mean we have no veto on any event held then?
For instance what if the EDL or any other such organisation wants to hold a rally there?
If that is the case, and we have sold away our rights to decide what events are held at the stadium, perhaps Club Doncaster could tell us just how much we are getting for this deal...and how much exactly is going to the first team?   



It's not the EDL though is it?

It's a fundraiser for a childrens hospice.  The money raised goes to help support sick children.  if you think some overly sensitive middle aged mens embarrassment is more important than helping kids in need then you are flat out wrong!

I think a better question would be the one about your motives.  you have regularly attacked the Club Doncaster concept in the past as well as the people who have implemented it.  So why are you so bothered?

I'm flattered that you appear to pay close attention to my posts.
The problem is, you seem to have misread them.
I don't recall 'regularly attacking' the Club Doncaster concept at all, or the people who have implemented it.
What I would like to see is greater transparency when it comes to CD.


Good to see someone taking the moral high ground.
However I seem to remember you didn't give a flying feck about it when we had aborted takeovers. Hmm, could that be a little bit of hypocrisy?
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: wesisback on January 25, 2018, 02:54:03 pm
I'm also consistent that I won't shop in a HMV (not that anyone does anymore) due to their Leeds section that once resided in their Doncaster shop.

This is a bit much, isn't it? I worked at HMV at the time that stuff was sold and it was because the manager was a Leeds fan, and sadly enough the garb sold which justified him putting it in the store. That just made me dislike the "Donny Whites" more for it being justified rather than put me off the shop due to a small bit of business savvy.

I don't believe they have sold Leeds merch since management changed anyway.
Every business takes a conscientious decision which may bring in certain customers and lose others. By bringing in thise Donny Whites I ensured that I didn't put a penny into that company. As a film lover that business will almost certainly have lost thousands in the 10+ years that followed. If it was worthwhile then as a business it has been a success. Ironically we've got a stag do in March where we planned to do a bit of football hospitality to start the day off, this isn't the reason for us not using Rovers (no visibility of prices was) but it will certainly ease the guilt on the day.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 25, 2018, 03:19:19 pm
I'm also consistent that I won't shop in a HMV (not that anyone does anymore) due to their Leeds section that once resided in their Doncaster shop.

This is a bit much, isn't it? I worked at HMV at the time that stuff was sold and it was because the manager was a Leeds fan, and sadly enough the garb sold which justified him putting it in the store. That just made me dislike the "Donny Whites" more for it being justified rather than put me off the shop due to a small bit of business savvy.

I don't believe they have sold Leeds merch since management changed anyway.
Every business takes a conscientious decision which may bring in certain customers and lose others. By bringing in thise Donny Whites I ensured that I didn't put a penny into that company. As a film lover that business will almost certainly have lost thousands in the 10+ years that followed. If it was worthwhile then as a business it has been a success. Ironically we've got a stag do in March where we planned to do a bit of football hospitality to start the day off, this isn't the reason for us not using Rovers (no visibility of prices was) but it will certainly ease the guilt on the day.

In that case I presume if this charity match goes ahead you'll stick to your principles and not put a penny further into DRFC by going to any more Rovers matches.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: wesisback on January 25, 2018, 03:27:22 pm
I've not bought anything from the concourse for two seasons now and have only attended away games this season (the latter is circumstance). I stopped using anything Centreplate provide (of those away games I've been to I've attempted to find out their food provider).
In a Capitalist world I'm a firm believer in voting with my wallet.
Again, you can try and bring the Charity element back in but a poor event doesn't become justified with it.
Nobody has told those females treated like meat this week to pipe down and think of the Children of Great Ormond Street.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Copps is Magic on January 25, 2018, 03:31:44 pm
I really don’t see all what all the fuss is about. This event is NOT going to influence the present or next generation of Doncaster football supporters.
Doncaster has got Leeds, Sheffield Wed, Sheffield Utd, Man Utd, Liverpool, and other Clubs supporters living in the Borough.
But not as many as there were 15/20/30/40 or even 50 years ago.
DRFC is in the strongest position overall ( not talking about league position ) than it has probably ever been in its history.
A proper well respected and well run football club that cares about its local community.
This obsession with Leeds and their supporters Is quite frankly imo
pathetic, sad, and totally ridiculous.
DRFC has its own identity so let’s concentrate on DRFC.

When you say 'influence a generation' it's you who's blowing things out of proportion and kicking up a fuss. No one is getting that hyperbolic apart from you as far as I can see.

What you say is incredibly blinkered. It must be - that is if you can't see the fact that, as a product of being absolutely shite for 30 years or so, we face a very unique challenge in this borough to shift the critical mass of people back towards our club. Being a 'well-respected'  club won't do it. No kid in a playground is telling his/her mates 'That Donny are a well-respected club, I'm going back next week'.

You say it's to do with an obsession with Leeds ignoring the very basic fact that football is about rivalries, opposition; you're playing someone different every week and its absolutely necessary to have a rivalry. It's intrinsically part of the whole f**king system. The only obsession with Leeds appears to be with the people on this forum. There's a thread on them on here every week it seems, and half the contributors are on this thread saying they don't 'understand this whole thing'!

Lastly why is it beyond the realms of possibility that such an event would sway people towards supporting Leeds? Its about the only thing they've got isn't it? highlighting their 'great' history? Because they equally been relatively shite also for a long time. If one kid dragged along by his dad, or one 'mate' dragged along with his mate is even momentarily inclined in that direction, then it was a mistake to host it in our stadium as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: RedJ on January 25, 2018, 03:42:34 pm
I'm also consistent that I won't shop in a HMV (not that anyone does anymore) due to their Leeds section that once resided in their Doncaster shop.

This is a bit much, isn't it? I worked at HMV at the time that stuff was sold and it was because the manager was a Leeds fan, and sadly enough the garb sold which justified him putting it in the store. That just made me dislike the "Donny Whites" more for it being justified rather than put me off the shop due to a small bit of business savvy.

I don't believe they have sold Leeds merch since management changed anyway.
Every business takes a conscientious decision which may bring in certain customers and lose others. By bringing in thise Donny Whites I ensured that I didn't put a penny into that company. As a film lover that business will almost certainly have lost thousands in the 10+ years that followed. If it was worthwhile then as a business it has been a success. Ironically we've got a stag do in March where we planned to do a bit of football hospitality to start the day off, this isn't the reason for us not using Rovers (no visibility of prices was) but it will certainly ease the guilt on the day.

In that case I presume if this charity match goes ahead you'll stick to your principles and not put a penny further into DRFC by going to any more Rovers matches.

Wait, it's a charity MATCH? I hadn't read anything about the event and I thought it was just a Q&A type thing, Jesus.
Title: Re: Leeds united legends night at the keepmoat
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 25, 2018, 04:18:43 pm
I'm also consistent that I won't shop in a HMV (not that anyone does anymore) due to their Leeds section that once resided in their Doncaster shop.

This is a bit much, isn't it? I worked at HMV at the time that stuff was sold and it was because the manager was a Leeds fan, and sadly enough the garb sold which justified him putting it in the store. That just made me dislike the "Donny Whites" more for it being justified rather than put me off the shop due to a small bit of business savvy.

I don't believe they have sold Leeds merch since management changed anyway.
Every business takes a conscientious decision which may bring in certain customers and lose others. By bringing in thise Donny Whites I ensured that I didn't put a penny into that company. As a film lover that business will almost certainly have lost thousands in the 10+ years that followed. If it was worthwhile then as a business it has been a success. Ironically we've got a stag do in March where we planned to do a bit of football hospitality to start the day off, this isn't the reason for us not using Rovers (no visibility of prices was) but it will certainly ease the guilt on the day.

In that case I presume if this charity match goes ahead you'll stick to your principles and not put a penny further into DRFC by going to any more Rovers matches.

Wait, it's a charity MATCH? I hadn't read anything about the event and I thought it was just a Q&A type thing, Jesus.

Ooops! My mistake, it is just a Q&A. My fingers got carried away with themselves..!