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Viking Chat => Lucky Pint => Topic started by: bobjimwilly on January 20, 2018, 10:19:03 am
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Today’s team
TEAM | Darren Ferguson has named his side for the 3pm kick-off against @shrewsweb in @SkyBetLeagueOne which sees @Coppinger26 make his 500th @EFL regular season start. #DRFC
COYR
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I didn't think his 500th was this soon?
Few more changes than I expected but good to see Wright given another shot. Hope it pays off.
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Marquis up top on his own.
Aaaaannnddd cue the usual comments at 17:00 when he’s run his blood to water, got the shite kicked out of him and not scored.
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Well, it's a defensive line up but it has worked before. Options on the bench for when Copps runs out of gas. Be great if he could score today!
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I didn't think his 500th was this soon?
Few more changes than I expected but good to see Wright given another shot. Hope it pays off.
It is not Copps 500th - it is his 496th appearance in the League for DRFC
Mabe his 500th 'start' for DRFC in all competitions?
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It's not worked well in the past this formation but if whiteman rowe and copps make more forward runs there is no reason why we can't get a result today
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Do they mean all Copps' EFL games or just those at Doncaster?
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Do they mean all Copps' EFL games or just those at Doncaster?
You may be right IDM. I make this his 570th appearance in EFL for all clubs, so possibly his 500th start
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Keep it 0-0 until around 70mins and then go for it when they start to tire
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Shrewsbury won't tire
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Butler booked on 8 mins
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Not what we need.
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Butler replaced by Baudry because of an injury
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10: First change for Doncaster with Matthieu Baudry coming on to replace Andy Butler who seems to have hurt himself in the foul on Morris #salop 0-0
Also got a yellow card for the foul he was injured in
COYR
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Rovers fans coming through loud and clear on ifollow.
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Now we'll see whether we miss Butler.
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And now Joe Wright is injured
17’ Tommy Rowe clears a corner with Joe Wright off having treatment in a head injury. 0-0 #DRFC
16’ Joe Wright is back on with a bandage on his head 0-0 #DRFC
COYR
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Appreciate the updates lads!
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Anyone else struggling with Ifollow? Mine was fine then went off and it's noe saying "commentary of this match has not yet started"
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We’ve survived the first 20 mins been second best let’s hope we grow into the game now
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1-0 shrews
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Bugger should have kept my mouth shut
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23’ Goal to Shrewsbury. Mat Sadler fires the ball home after a corner. 1-0 #DRFC
20: Whalley whipped the corner in, the ball dropped in the Donny box and Sadler was quickest to react to stab the ball home and give Town the early advantage #salop 1-0
COYR
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Soft goal to be honest.
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Radio saws Lawlor flapped at one. Punched a distance of 6 yards!
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Would appear we have been under a bit of pressure.
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23’ Goal to Shrewsbury. Mat Sadler fires the ball home after a corner. 1-0 #DRFC
COYR
BBC reckons 21 minutes :blink:
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Up hill now change of formation needed
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23’ Goal to Shrewsbury. Mat Sadler fires the ball home after a corner. 1-0 #DRFC
COYR
BBC reckons 21 minutes :blink:
Someone needs a new watch
COYR
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Come on you Reds...
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I don't think we've been in their area yet, I think we need a formation change
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By the sounds of it, we could do with getting a bit of possession!
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Watching on Ifollow. We look like conceding EVERYTIME there is a corner/set-piece. Referee has told Wright to go off for blood twice at key times during the game, and with Butler off we look extremely vulnerable.
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We're offering nothing in their half of the pitch either.
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38mins and we have a corner, oooh it’s a corner
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We’ve had a chance
40: Chance for Doncaster after Coppinger gets in behind Hendrie, he shoots low to the nearpost but Henderson and Nsiala do enough to put it behind to safety #salop 1-0
COYR
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Things looking up. 2 corners and a shot! Woohoo
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Things looking up. 2 corners and a shot! Woohoo
Tiny steps..... they will tire.
This will be like the Rumble in the Jungle..... they may have us on the ropes now, but wait for the fightback...
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We could have 2 cb's out on Tuesday night!
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To be fair we’re lucky to be only 1 down at halftime
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Shrewsbury aren't spectacular, just so much more organised than us and working better as a unit.
Our tactic here and in the last game seems to be the hopeless punt forward to Marquis.
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Well, we've been there before. Dominated the first half, then let em back in. Can we do what Plymouth did to us?
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Are our players wearing the black armbands remembering Cyril Regis?
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Shrewsbury are very dominant Donny Baz. We’ll be fortunate to get a point at this game.
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I’d sum up our first half in one word ... Tame.
Very vulnerable at the back, snails pace going forward and totally lacking in ideas on the few occasions we got in or around their box.
Need to up our tempo considerably to ‘tame’ the Shrews
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They should be out of sight , their back four are playing in midfield because we are offering nothing in their half, they are quicker to every second ball.
DF has to change things this half , we might as well play to up front and put them on the back foot.
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All sounds very familiar.
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They should be out of sight , their back four are playing in midfield because we are offering nothing in their half, they are quicker to every second ball.
DF has to change things this half , we might as well play to up front and put them on the back foot.
We're playing with them...... wait for the counter punch second half.. :boxing:
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Going to try the DVR tactic here:
Well, Shrewsbury have got to 62 minutes without conceding a goal...................
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Beestin on for Rodney.
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We've just given them yet another glorious chance from a corner.... saved by lawlor. Then we've had a go at the other end with a shot just wide after a decent cross went through everybody.
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Glad he's not waiting around to change it up a bit.
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Today's attendance is 5,818 ( with 502 from @drfc_official ) - thank you for the support and a safe journey home #salop
Well done to the travellers today
COYR
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Bugger.
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Game over
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Good afternoon everyone! Not a good situation, hopefully we can turn it around in this half, very tough game, a benchmark of good or not good we are.
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They jumped highest for the corner AGAIN. Softly headed down through about 3 of our players who stand still and watch... their lad puts it in on the turn. Far too easy.
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Watching on Ifollow. We look like conceding EVERYTIME there is a corner/set-piece. Referee has told Wright to go off for blood twice at key times during the game, and with Butler off we look extremely vulnerable.
As I was saying.
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Two set pieces. Another soft goal really. Mind you. Shrewsbury are very good. Respect to them. I hope they go up. Another unfashionable upstart team, like us.
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We've conceded an awful lot of goals from set pieces again recently, not good enough at all.
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Cant see us getting owt from 2-0 down against these.
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Radio Sheffield's timing immaculate, "One err, Two nil to Shrewsbury"
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Am I right in saying both goals have come from balls to the back post again?
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52’ Goal to Shrewsbury, with Morris firing home following a corner 2-0 #DRFC
COYR
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Now we'll see whether we miss Butler.
Question answered.
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It's now that you realise how many headers Butler wins cleanly.
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Oh well no shame as long as we have tried our best sounds like we may have given them to much respect playing only 1 up front in first half
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Long kick from Lawlor goes out of play!
Get him to prctice those kicks or kick it down the middle!
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Oh well no shame as long as we have tried our best sounds like we may have given them to much respect playing only 1 up front in first half
Don't know about respect.
The manager set the team up in a way that e thought was best to get a result out of this game.
They should be respected though based on their league position.
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Wright was off the pitch again receiving treatment when they took the corner , and no one bothered to jump with there man at the back post.
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2-1 come onnnnn
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That's game over for me. 1 cb off injured, 1 with a head wound and 2 full backs who are 'make do and mend' players. We need strengthening, there is just no getting away from it. Against some sides in this division, we may get away with it, but not the better ones.
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Get in there. Frenchie.
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And here comes the ultimate irony - we score form a corner via a central defender!!
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That's game over for me. 1 cb off injured, 1 with a head wound and 2 full backs who are 'make do and mend' players. We need strengthening, there is just no getting away from it. Against some sides in this division, we may get away with it, but not the better ones.
No extra players coming in though, we have been told.
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That's game over for me. 1 cb off injured, 1 with a head wound and 2 full backs who are 'make do and mend' players. We need strengthening, there is just no getting away from it. Against some sides in this division, we may get away with it, but not the better ones.
game over at 1-2 with about half an hour to play??
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It's now that you realise how many headers Butler wins cleanly.
Sorry but we concede from set pieces when he plays. It’s something we’ve been guilty of for sometime
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....and they played Tuesday and into extra time, credit to them.
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Going to try the DVR tactic here:
Well, Shrewsbury have got to 62 minutes without conceding a goal...................
Well that worked (with an edit or two admittedly).
Come on Rovers.
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62’ Coppinger’s corner is flicked on by Rowe and Baudry forces it home at the near post 2-1 #DRFC
COYR
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68: Doncaster change with Jordan Houghton being replaced by Issam Ben Khemis #salop 2-1
COYR
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Come on just one more rovers let’s at least get the draw
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It would be great to nick a point from this.
We have to play five of the top eight in the next few games.
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Hope Houghton is not injured, also!
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It's now that you realise how many headers Butler wins cleanly.
Sorry but we concede from set pieces when he plays. It’s something we’ve been guilty of for sometime
I agree. Sounds like our two main beefcakes were off the pitch for both goals.
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Hope Houghton is not injured, also!
Could just be tactical??
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A draw would be a great result against a top team.
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They must be worried
71: Looks like Beckles has gone into defence for now with Town putting five at the back #salop 2-1
COYR
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It's now that you realise how many headers Butler wins cleanly.
Sorry but we concede from set pieces when he plays. It’s something we’ve been guilty of for sometime
I agree. Sounds like our two main beefcakes are off the pitch for both goals.
I am not surprised that we concede from set plays when Butler plays.
All teams concede from set plays whoever is in the team.
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Whiteman just had a screamer tipped over.
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That's why I wrote 'hope'.
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2-2!
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Get in there... goalie messed up
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Wow. Their Keeper has caught the ball, walked backwards under his own momentum and walked it into the goal. Rarely seen.
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2-2
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Come on Rovers.
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lets go for the winner!
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Get bloody innnnnnnnnnnnmnn
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:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Funny old game!
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Wow. Their Keeper has caught the ball, walked backwards under his own momentum and walked it into the goal. Rarely seen.
Imagine if Lawlor had done that !!
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74: Doncaster are on level terms, the ball is fired into the Town goal, Henderson looks to collect ball, he takes a step back under the challenge and ref Backhouse looks to his assistant who gives it as a goal #salop 2-2
74’ Issam Ben Khemis has equalised for Rovers! His long ball is loooking to cause problems at the far post, Dean Henderson gets two hands on it but it goes over the line 2-2 #DRFC
Ben the chemist! Don’t you like Lino’s
COYR
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Magic! Let's win this! :woot:
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BBC credit Ben the Chemist with the goal.
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We can win this, they must be tiring after Tuesday evening, they are for the taking, won't have a better chance to beat them.
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Going to try the DVR tactic here:
Well, Shrewsbury have got to 62 minutes without conceding a goal...................
Well that worked (with an edit or two admittedly).
Come on Rovers.
Try summat again!,😃
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Geoff Stelling:
Donny have just scored through Ben Khemis
His brother is Boots the Khemis
Ho Ho
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Cant see us getting owt from 2-0 down against these.
😂😂😂😄😄😄
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Cant see us getting owt from 2-0 down against these.
😂😂😂😄😄😄
That worked as well.
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Chemist has been crocked here, looks bad.
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Ffs!
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Geoff Stelling:
Donny have just scored through Ben Khemis
His brother is Boots the Khemis
Ho Ho
DF - he’s a funny man I shoot him last (allegedly)
COYR
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I'd say he's broke something by the way hes walking.
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Ben Nevis
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What's happening chaps?
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I'd say he's broke something by the way hes walking.
Shyte news, he has waited long enough to get his chance and then this happens.
Was it a malicious tackle?
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Down to ten men now.
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Khemis off injured, own to 10 for the rest of the game
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ffs
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Rovers down to 10 men, hope we can hang on.
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Come on Rovers.
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Depending on the injuries today I expect DF may ask the board for further support?
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5 mins added time
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Depending on the injuries today I expect DF may ask the board for further support?
What was Butlers injury ?
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dunno - went off after 12 mins..
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Butler was a hip/groin.
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typical! Our player gets injured, putting us down to 10 men and the injury time gives the oppo the advantage!
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Groin injury, bad enough to go off, might not make it for the Scunny game.
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Yes. A very good point that. Great character to come back from two down. Stick that in your coracle.
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typical! Our player gets injured, putting us down to 10 men and the injury time gives the oppo the advantage!
It didnt. we've been the better team all 2nd half.
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FT 2-2.
Rowe had good chance at death.
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great point, but injuries don't look good
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Good result, especially coming back from being 2 down.
Onwards and upwards
COYR
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Happy with a draw before the game, even more so after being 0-2 down.. Can't comment on the performance as I wasn't there, but a great point.
Only concern is the injuries..
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Brilliant come back by the lads.
Good set up of the team too.
Scunny lost at home too so there will be additional pressure on them not to lose two home games in a few days.
Come on Rovers.
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typical! Our player gets injured, putting us down to 10 men and the injury time gives the oppo the advantage!
It didnt. we've been the better team all 2nd half.
I was referring to Ben Khemis injury
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Updates here hugely appreciated, thanks! :thumbsup:
Sounds like a classic game :scarf:
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Fantastic point given being 2 down and the injuries
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Imagine how good we could be if we could perform for more than 45 mins per game. Great point.
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I'm saying it didn't give them any advantage, it was us who looked like we had the extra man. Almost certainly because of their game midweek.
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3 players injured in 1 game and we still don't know if Houghton went off with an injury, so it could be 4. We'll be relying on youth team players before long.
Great character to get it back to 2-2. Shame about Weldricks.
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Very very noisy support from our supporters right through that match. Great stuff.
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I would have taken the draw before the game so I’m glad we came back into it and got it back hope the injured players aren’t to bad. Shews are one of the better teams in this league the lads should take the positives and carry it on now.
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3 players injured in 1 game and we still don't know if Houghton went off with an injury, so it could be 4. We'll be relying on youth team players before long.
Great character to get it back to 2-2. Shame about Weldricks.
I assume you mean the 3rd injured player was Wright? He played all game didn't he? Nowt was said on twitter by the official feed or the journos to say Houghton was injured so the conclusion is that it was tactical..
Butler and Ben Khemis, we'll wait and see..
Why do you make the tone of your post more worrying?
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Total turn around second half ... we were dominant most of the time. Shrews were hanging on. Special praise for Alfie Beestin who I thought was superb. Very physical game which we only got to grips with and matched them in the second half.Only second guessing but the injuries probably not as bad as they looked.
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Good point. Move onto Tuesday.
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random, unrelated observation - only one 0-0 draw in the whole of Premier League and EFL today (Stevenage v Carlisle in L2)
Also our match was only draw in L1 today.
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Pages 1 and 2 of Lucky pint today sums up many of our fans,
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Radio said that the Beestin sub was a game changer.
I agre with TheFunk, and I'm sure many of you think the same. Performing 45 mins a game isn't enough.
Are we unfit or is it tactical or mental?
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The thought of history repeating itself can sometimes be very frightening.
Twos year ago, about this time, we came from 0-2 behind to draw with Gillingham in a match we suffered many injuries :ohmy:
I do think we are much better two years on, but if Butler is out for some time we must replace him.
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Radio said that the Beestin sub was a game changer.
I agre with IDM, and I'm sure many of you think the same. Performing 45 mins a game isn't enough.
Are we unfit or is it tactical or mental?
In this game it was simply a case of, if we were able to defend set-pieces I thought we'd have won the game quite comfortably. In general it might be a different question.
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Pages 1 and 2 of Lucky pint today sums up many of our fans,
Not really sure what you are saying but if it is that supporters were complaining about things I don't see how it can sum up many of our supporters.
The posts were only commenting on how things were going AT THAT TIME and the same group of posters were very complimentary as things improved.
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Pages 1 and 2 of Lucky pint today sums up many of our fans,
The ebb and flow of emotions, look and listen around you, it happens in every stadium in the land
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Pages 1 and 2 of Lucky pint today sums up many of our fans,
The ebb and flow of emotions, look and listen around you, it happens in every stadium in the land
Precisely, even if some do see things differently..
It's far worse on twitter, go 2-0 down and its the end of the world..
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3 players injured in 1 game and we still don't know if Houghton went off with an injury, so it could be 4. We'll be relying on youth team players before long.
Great character to get it back to 2-2. Shame about Weldricks.
I assume you mean the 3rd injured player was Wright? He played all game didn't he? Nowt was said on twitter by the official feed or the journos to say Houghton was injured so the conclusion is that it was tactical..
Butler and Ben Khemis, we'll wait and see..
Why do you make the tone of your post more worrying?
See DF's post match comments in the DFP https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-ferguson-may-be-forced-into-loan-market-after-double-injury-blow-at-shrewsbury-1-8970391 (https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-ferguson-may-be-forced-into-loan-market-after-double-injury-blow-at-shrewsbury-1-8970391)
No mention of Wright or Houghton being injured, and also hints we can look at the loan market if these two are bad ones..
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Pages 1 and 2 of Lucky pint today sums up many of our fans,
Given the performance in the first half I don’t see a problem with any of the comments and has stated those negative feelings changed in the second half as our performance improved. You really need to take the blinkers off nothing is straight down the middle, Black or white etc.. when emotions are involved everything changes from one minute to the next
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Point being it's a bit silly and very negative to give in after 60 or so minutes. Imagine if the players did that.
Today was an unbelievably tough game and we've supporters saying it's game over and the formation is all wrong.
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Wasn’t the formation changed though and then we got back into the game?
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It's now that you realise how many headers Butler wins cleanly.
Sorry but we concede from set pieces when he plays. It’s something we’ve been guilty of for sometime
I agree. Sounds like our two main beefcakes are off the pitch for both goals.
I am not surprised that we concede from set plays when Butler plays.
All teams concede from set plays whoever is in the team.
Looking at the highlights it appears to be Blair who was picking up the player who headed down for the first goal.
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It’s worth noting that Wright was off the field getting treatment and was ready and asking to come back on before they took the corner but the officials wouldn’t let him back on.
This happened earlier as well when the ball was out of play and both times he wasn’t allowed back on until after the game had restarted.
Is this just the ref being a dick or is that what the rules state?
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It’s worth noting that Wright was off the field getting treatment and was ready and asking to come back on before they took the corner but the officials wouldn’t let him back on.
This happened earlier as well when the ball was out of play and both times he wasn’t allowed back on until after the game had restarted.
Is this just the ref being a dick or is that what the rules state?
Yeah, I read that on the thread earlier (Wright being off the pitch).
Some refs seem to allow players straight back on and yet others make them wait a while.
Would there have been an opportunity for the ref to let Wright back on before the corner was taken?
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It’s worth noting that Wright was off the field getting treatment and was ready and asking to come back on before they took the corner but the officials wouldn’t let him back on.
This happened earlier as well when the ball was out of play and both times he wasn’t allowed back on until after the game had restarted.
Is this just the ref being a dick or is that what the rules state?
Yeah, I read that on the thread earlier (Wright being off the pitch).
Some refs seem to allow players straight back on and yet others make them wait a while.
Would there have been an opportunity for the ref to let Wright back on before the corner was taken?
Yeah, without doubt. Fergie was going mental with the Lino and 4th official and the ref looked over before turning back and instructing the corner to be taken.
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Wasn’t the formation changed though and then we got back into the game?
Not really no. And people moaning with 40 minutes to go and giving up is just typical of our supporters
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It isn’t actually unreasonable for supporters to feel that the game may be lost at 2-0 down.
In all four divisions of the EFL and PL only one other team, Accrington, came back from 2 goals behind to get something from their game.
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Honourable mention for Leeds, who came from 2-0 down with 10 men to lead 3-2 - before hilariously f**king it up at the death.
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It isn’t actually unreasonable for supporters to feel that the game may be lost at 2-0 down.
In all four divisions of the EFL and PL only one other team, Accrington, came back from 2 goals behind to get something from their game.
Of course it is, people were sharpening their knives, planting the seed for their upcoming moans.
Posts were very negative, not been In Their half not got any possession
When in reality we had 53% posession
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Were you there today? we were shite in the first half. Looked a different side after the break.
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I was one of them that thought we wouldn't get back into it. But that was based on the fact being 2 down our best centre back off injured our other with his head bandaged and the fact we were playing one of the best home teams in league 1. I'm glad we did and huge respect to the players and Fergie for the changes and for not giving up. We need to take the positives and we could get all 3 points on Tuesday
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It isn’t actually unreasonable for supporters to feel that the game may be lost at 2-0 down.
In all four divisions of the EFL and PL only one other team, Accrington, came back from 2 goals behind to get something from their game.
Of course it is, people were sharpening their knives, planting the seed for their upcoming moans.
Posts were very negative, not been In Their half not got any possession
When in reality we had 53% posession
I expect when you're sat at a game and we go 2 or 3 down you exclaim with happy confidence "no problem this lads, we will win!" every time? Fair play if you do, but it is human nature to see such events and expect it to end in defeat and disappointment, because the odds suggest at that stage that it will. It's lovely to come back and get a draw or even a win but it is rare and so we're all doubly pleased when we pull it off. The only negativity I've seen on this board since 5 o'clock yesterday is you with this in here and one other poster on the main board criticising fans for the same thing.
Short version: stop picking fights with supporters for being perfectly normal and typical football fans during the course of the game.
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If you mean me, I don't have an issue with someone saying words to the effect of "we're not likely to get anything out of this game now " or "we're going to struggle to get back into this one" when we are 2-0 down away from home.. Comments like that make sense and are reasonable..
Saying "game over" going 2-0 down on say 85, 86 minutes, is understandable.
But "game over" - at 52 minutes - is a step too far IMHO.
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Just watched the highlights dubious positioning of the ball for the corner that leads to the first goal
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Just watched the highlights dubious positioning of the ball for the corner that leads to the first goal
A feature of almost every game I see.
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Just watched the highlights dubious positioning of the ball for the corner that leads to the first goal
A feature of almost every game I see.
I know you look over the ball nowadays and if any part of the ball cuts across the marking its legal but that looks very dodgy
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Yep I know the rule Daggers but still say it is a feature of every game I see.
Usually on the side where there isn’t a linesman.