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Title: Did it cross the line?
Post by: donnyguy61 on January 20, 2018, 08:33:31 pm
http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/league-one/11216344/did-this-cross-the-line (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/league-one/11216344/did-this-cross-the-line)
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on January 20, 2018, 08:39:06 pm
Yes.........the linesman indicated that it did!  :)
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: IDM on January 20, 2018, 08:41:12 pm
Impossible to tell from that camera angle.. 
Title: Re: Was it a goal?
Post by: Donnywolf on January 20, 2018, 08:47:23 pm
Use the "remove" button and it will go !

However I think it was a goal. We have had such a raw deal lately that it must have been in. Lino was off like f**k so he was convinced !

GOAL !

Seriously Technology needed in all 4 Divisions !

PS Crap goalkeeping !
Title: Re: Was it a goal?
Post by: Haxey-Hood-DRFC on January 20, 2018, 08:48:55 pm
Not the best of angles to judge. But, hey, it counted. So good enough for me.

Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: drfchound on January 20, 2018, 08:50:50 pm
The keepers right foot is almost touching the metal pole that holds the net down so he would have had to have long arms to keep the ball in play without falling over.

Anyway, it appears to be that  the officials are always right so it must have been a goal.

Marquis seems to be convinced it is a goal straight away.

The fans reaction behind the goal is very positive about it too.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: glosterred on January 20, 2018, 08:54:46 pm
Yes.........the linesman indicated that it did!  :)

Don’t we just love Lino’s ......... this weekend


COYR
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Dutch Uncle on January 20, 2018, 09:02:08 pm
It may have defied the laws of Physics, but not the laws of Khemistry  :chair:
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: sheffield exile1 on January 20, 2018, 09:08:34 pm
Dutch, just back it was definitely over in my opinion, even sat behind the goal it looked over he spilled it badly and fell back from what I could see, he looked very guilty and doing the "not on my watch" movements, as I say, over for me...
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Dutch Uncle on January 20, 2018, 09:11:20 pm
I too thought it was over, just couldn’t resist the pun  ;)
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Rovers91 on January 20, 2018, 09:17:18 pm
Shrewsbury fans haven't argued the decision and think it was over line as well on their forum.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: silent majority on January 20, 2018, 09:25:05 pm
Shrewsbury fans haven't argued the decision and think it was over line as well on their forum.
And so did their players after the game. They gave a few interviews and never argued anything different.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: BigH on January 20, 2018, 09:25:59 pm
Dutch, just back it was definitely over in my opinion, even sat behind the goal it looked over he spilled it badly and fell back from what I could see, he looked very guilty and doing the "not on my watch" movements, as I say, over for me...
Absolutely, it was over the line. It was a very funny moment when the keeper realised that he hadn't been so smart after all, holding the ball out at arm's length thinking he'd prevented it from going in only to then find himself standing in the back of the goal! And a great reaction from the Rovers fans behind him!  As a fan you live for moments like that. Particularly as we've suffered from so many of them over the years!
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 20, 2018, 09:27:31 pm
I thought it was over the line, although I was quite a distance from the incident.

Bentley, in fact.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Dutch Uncle on January 20, 2018, 09:29:20 pm
Now that defies the laws of Physics, Chemistry and Biology all at the same time  :lol:
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Campsall rover on January 20, 2018, 09:30:19 pm
The linesman was in perfect position to see it as was stood next to the corner flag.
From behind the goal the keepers feet were well behind the line, as to the keepers hands with the ball firmly in his grasp impossible to say. The Lino did not hesitate and gave the goal immediately.
To be honest this Lino was excellent all afternoon and did not hesitate in any of his decisions. Probably the best Lino I have seen all season.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: johnny rovers on January 20, 2018, 09:32:41 pm
I don't give s**t, we've had some bad luck so far this season and it's about time Lady Luck was in our side for a change
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: RedJ on January 20, 2018, 09:36:10 pm
Shrewsbury fans haven't argued the decision and think it was over line as well on their forum.
And so did their players after the game. They gave a few interviews and never argued anything different.


The keeper was straight over to the assistant at full time having words with him, I'd guess about the goal.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: drfchound on January 20, 2018, 09:37:31 pm
I don't give s**t, we've had some bad luck so far this season and it's about time Lady Luck was in our side for a change





As I have previously said, luck does tend to even out over a season.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: selby on January 20, 2018, 09:40:34 pm
  As my mate said at the time, Henderson didn't relish that.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: drfchound on January 20, 2018, 09:50:58 pm
Got himself into a pickle.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Lincoln Rover on January 20, 2018, 10:21:14 pm
I listened to Radio Shropshire after the match and the regular commentators said that Henderson was very well known for getting far close in previous matches to crossing the line when catching the ball and it had been coming.
I was four rows back and CERTAINLY in.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: StocktonRover on January 20, 2018, 10:28:32 pm
He nearly did it a few minutes earlier. He did exactly the same by catching the ball and taking a step back but just stayed the right side of the line the first time.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: balbyrover on January 20, 2018, 10:34:26 pm
Impossible to tell from that angle. A pretty pointless video by sky in truth. They could have just stuck to the normal highlights.

Although everybody I have spoken to or seen comment that attended have said it looked well over. Everybody apart from Henderson himself who has tweeted to say "never a goal." Although he is going to say that isn't he. Huge gaff from him really.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Lincoln Rover on January 20, 2018, 10:37:14 pm
Their manager said it wasn't over AND that the goalie was fouled.
He went that far back  he was in a different post code.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: drfchound on January 20, 2018, 10:46:53 pm
Yeah, but don’t forget that Adams said the Coppinger incident wasn’t a pen either last week.
Only to be expected by the keeper and Hurst.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: RedJ on January 20, 2018, 11:12:17 pm
Their manager said it wasn't over AND that the goalie was fouled.
He went that far back  he was in a different post code.

How the f**k could the manager possibly have been able to tell? f**king cock.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: GazLaz on January 20, 2018, 11:24:23 pm
Their manager said it wasn't over AND that the goalie was fouled.
He went that far back  he was in a different post code.

How the f**k could the manager possibly have been able to tell? f**king cock.

He will be repeating what the keeper told him probably.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Alan Southstand on January 20, 2018, 11:41:15 pm
Linesman last week would Definately not given it.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: since-1969 on January 21, 2018, 12:03:47 am
Does anyone think we should not have been given it ? We’ve earned this after all the stupid decisions that’s gone against us over this season. VAR they can stick that pile of scrap metal in the bin , I’d sooner have a blind officials than geeks  running the game.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: eastender on January 21, 2018, 12:43:43 am
Not conclusive , but judging by the keepers feet and Baudry's position  i'd say yes.

(http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo164/eastender1/baud_zpswgxiztbj.png) (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/eastender1/media/baud_zpswgxiztbj.png.html)

Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: hoolahoop on January 21, 2018, 01:08:49 am
I don't give s**t, we've had some bad luck so far this season and it's about time Lady Luck was in our side for a change

Yep we were owed that if it wasn't and if it was then we still have one in the tank for when we next need it .
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Donnywolf on January 21, 2018, 06:24:22 am
Now that defies the laws of Physics, Chemistry and Biology all at the same time  :lol:

... not Alkhemy though !
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on January 21, 2018, 08:11:37 am
Paul Hurst, Shrews' manager, said that he hasn't seen any evidence that the ball crossed the line. Err, excuse me, the evidence was the linesman indicating with his flag that the ball had, indeed, crossed the line. Gawd only knows what his reaction would have been if the incident had been at the other end. Would he then have said that no evidence was available. 'Course he wouldn't!  :facepalm:

Sheer hypocrisy!
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Donnywolf on January 21, 2018, 09:01:20 am
Look like clear evidence in my Paper - where it says 2-2 !

You are right though in that had they scored in similar fashion he would have said "it was a clear goal - and my Players reactions confirmed that to me - they were the only evidence I needed"
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: since-1969 on January 21, 2018, 10:06:42 am
Doesn’t this add to DF’s defence , of his belief that officials are not up to the standard required .
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Donnywolf on January 21, 2018, 11:23:29 am
Its a hard one to judge I suppose and its the one decision that should be definitive

Goal Line Technology HAS to come to every Division. Its too big a business to "perhaps" get the mostimportant decision wrong

Rochdale away anyone ? Yeovil at home ? Geoff Hurst 66 Lampard a couple of Seasons back ?
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Bezza on January 21, 2018, 11:39:38 am
very brave of the linesman ,he could have ignored it like most of them would have ,did we give him a lift home ?
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: drfchound on January 21, 2018, 11:44:41 am
Its a hard one to judge I suppose and its the one decision that should be definitive

Goal Line Technology HAS to come to every Division. Its too big a business to "perhaps" get the mostimportant decision wrong

Rochdale away anyone ? Yeovil at home ? Geoff Hurst 66 Lampard a couple of Seasons back ?






Wolfi3, we both know how quickly time passes.
Lampard a couple of seasons back.  That was actually in 2010.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Donnyjim on January 21, 2018, 12:53:13 pm
no it wasn't and don't care. we deserve a bit of luck for a change.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Campsall rover on January 21, 2018, 02:22:52 pm
The linesman gave it immediately. No hesitation at all so that says enough for me. Any doubt he wouldn’t have given it would he???
This Lino was very good and did not wait for the ref on any decisions.
Goal Goal Goal Score 2-2 It’s in the record books and will not change.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on January 21, 2018, 02:36:43 pm
I've just scientifically solved the issue using geometrical evidence.......

Case solved!
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: BigH on January 21, 2018, 02:38:17 pm
Doesn’t this add to DF’s defence , of his belief that officials are not up to the standard required .
Nope, precisely the opposite. Unlike the dope who ran the line last week the linesman yesterday was spot on. He had a good game and was an example of how high the quality of officiating is/can be in this League. The point is that there's a degree of inconsistency among the refereeing fraternity that needs to be ironed out Professionalisation will help, however, it still won't legislate for human error and officials losing concentration at key moments; that will always be part of the game.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Campsall rover on January 21, 2018, 02:43:15 pm
I've just scientifically solved the issue using geometrical evidence.......

Case solved!
Nice one. CASE CLOSED.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: keith79 on January 21, 2018, 02:45:26 pm
I have seen this from a video behind the net. He catches it under the bar and falls backwards. It's well over the line
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Donnywolf on January 21, 2018, 02:51:30 pm
I too have now seen the highlights and imho there is NO DOUBT that the whole of the Ball crossed the line
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: deebee on January 21, 2018, 03:03:25 pm
A nice young lady on the coach back ( Donny Dogs Minder ) had several very good pictures on her Apple tablet showing the goalie catching the ball then stepping backwards and the ball CLEARLY well over the line. It also showed he was not fouled by any Rovers player. result. On another matter their first goal came from a corner that should have been a goal kick as it was their player it came off.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: southwestexile on January 21, 2018, 05:36:28 pm
The linesman was in perfect position to see it as was stood next to the corner flag.
From behind the goal the keepers feet were well behind the line, as to the keepers hands with the ball firmly in his grasp impossible to say. The Lino did not hesitate and gave the goal immediately.
To be honest this Lino was excellent all afternoon and did not hesitate in any of his decisions. Probably the best Lino I have seen all season.

Except that he didn't give the blatant foul on Marquis when he was clean through and hauled down about 20 yards out. Not saying we'd have scored but it would have reduced them to 10
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: Campsall rover on January 21, 2018, 05:40:02 pm
The linesman was in perfect position to see it as was stood next to the corner flag.
From behind the goal the keepers feet were well behind the line, as to the keepers hands with the ball firmly in his grasp impossible to say. The Lino did not hesitate and gave the goal immediately.
To be honest this Lino was excellent all afternoon and did not hesitate in any of his decisions. Probably the best Lino I have seen all season.

Except that he didn't give the blatant foul on Marquis when he was clean through and hauled down about 20 yards out. Not saying we'd have scored but it would have reduced them to 10
Can’t remember that one!
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: RedJ on January 21, 2018, 06:38:30 pm
It was fairly late on. I was screaming for a foul to be given. Just took him down as he was virtually on the edge of the box. Not even a free kick given.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: bobjimwilly on January 21, 2018, 07:45:50 pm
behind the goal angle: https://twitter.com/FleegleJason/status/954844425951301632

not conclusive though
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: DMnumber4 on January 22, 2018, 11:52:57 am
behind the goal angle: https://twitter.com/FleegleJason/status/954844425951301632

not conclusive though

I'd give it  :rtid:
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: eastender on January 22, 2018, 07:37:06 pm
From the Shrews fans Board.

http://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/96227/ (http://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/96227/)
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: The Red Baron on January 22, 2018, 07:51:33 pm
From the Shrews fans Board.

http://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/96227/ (http://blueandamber.proboards.com/thread/96227/)


They're a good deal more fair-minded than a lot of fans you come across on forums. Imagine if that was Plymouth?
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: RedJ on January 22, 2018, 07:59:54 pm
I hate Plymouth. Horrible little club with a horrible fan base.
Title: Re: Did it cross the line?
Post by: The Red Baron on January 22, 2018, 09:07:37 pm
I hate Plymouth. Horrible little club with a horrible fan base.

You certainly know how to wind them up. One of the things that always gets me about them is how they think they are a much bigger club than they are.