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Title: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Filo on January 23, 2018, 11:52:56 pm
Fighting between themselves at the front behind the goal and two old lasses being arrested after getting involved! 😀😀😀😀
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: RedJ on January 24, 2018, 12:05:04 am
On top of that, setting off a flare a row behind a f**king child.

Stupid enough anyway but how f**king selfish have you got to be to set one off directly behind a little lad.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: turnbull for england on January 24, 2018, 07:21:43 am
They weren't arrested we were sat above tunnel where they stopped them there and had a long chat. Offered them chance to go into side seatingfor injury time but they went home instead
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: wesisback on January 24, 2018, 07:25:13 am
To be fair I'm hearing one of the incidents was a woman taking a swing because a lad used a very offensive racist term. I hope she caught him cleanly.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: German Rover on January 24, 2018, 07:28:18 am
Booing and giving the dogs abuse to a player who's obviously seriously injured as well was a very classy move as well.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Filo on January 24, 2018, 07:37:18 am
To be fair I'm hearing one of the incidents was a woman taking a swing because a lad used a very offensive racist term. I hope she caught him cleanly.

Don't know what kicked it off, but the Women were on the F and C key well before the incident, one was also pointing and swearing at a Policeman and refusing to leave at one point. Some other elderly people asked to be moved into the side area, bbecause the trouble was spilling over into them, it was on the front row and again the selfish ones stood up spoiling it for those who wish to sit or are unable to stand for the duration of the game
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 24, 2018, 07:38:29 am
Booing and giving the dogs abuse to a player who's obviously seriously injured as well was a very classy move as well.

He hadn't acted great himself.....

Anyone racist to quote Ferguson "shoot them"
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Northants Nomad on January 24, 2018, 07:43:19 am
This mindless sub-set of morons is one of the primary reasons I am not attending as many games as I used to, especially away games. It's not as safe as it was. And the Club know who they are - Christ sake, a few brag about it on Twitter.

I don't know all of them or their names but I could easily point a few trouble-makers out.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: German Rover on January 24, 2018, 07:54:22 am
Booing and giving the dogs abuse to a player who's obviously seriously injured as well was a very classy move as well.

He hadn't acted great himself.....

Anyone racist to quote Ferguson "shoot them"

He shouldn't have been on the pitch to get injured, but he took a Tommy Rowe thunderbolt to the knee. I'm surprised his lower leg didn't clear the stand.

Agree on the racist thing. These people need to be out of our club and not come back.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: the vicar on January 24, 2018, 08:59:43 am
And there is another section effected I was in the wings of the side to the right and one chap had a bab asthma attack with the pyro, I'm asthmatic my self and it gets to me so I know how he feels
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: hoolahoop on January 24, 2018, 09:26:22 am
And there is another section effected I was in the wings of the side to the right and one chap had a bab asthma attack with the pyro, I'm asthmatic my self and it gets to me so I know how he feels

It's time these knobjockeys were "outed"for good .
For years our supporters were recognised as some of the friendliest by oppo clubs and their supporters which meant that low level stewarding was granted to us however over the last few seasons these t**ts have undone years of hard work done by our own supporters club, self- stewarding and excellent police liason support . Somehow we need to get these idiots away from games , some know who they are ......now get them banned for life please especially the pyromaniacs !!
These idiots don't represent our club and we want it back from them asap.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: donnievic on January 24, 2018, 09:29:28 am
Booing and giving the dogs abuse to a player who's obviously seriously injured as well was a very classy move as well.
f**k him don't usually condone things like that but brought it on himself with the way he acted earlier in game going down twice before faking it
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Jimmydee on January 24, 2018, 09:38:12 am
There was a cheeky runt wanting to cause trouble with some Scunny fans on the way out of the ground, he was complaining to the stewards/police saying that he had been hit by someone and I'm only 13, he's the next generation of our hooligans.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Campsall rover on January 24, 2018, 09:47:06 am
And there is another section effected I was in the wings of the side to the right and one chap had a bab asthma attack with the pyro, I'm asthmatic my self and it gets to me so I know how he feels

It's time these knobjockeys were "outed"for good .
For years our supporters were recognised as some of the friendliest by oppo clubs and their supporters which meant that low level stewarding was granted to us however over the last few seasons these t**ts have undone years of hard work done by our own supporters club, self- stewarding and excellent police liason support . Somehow we need to get these idiots away from games , some know who they are ......now get them banned for life please especially the pyromaniacs !!
These idiots don't represent our club and we want it back from them asap.
With all the CCTV in the grounds I can’t understand why most these morons haven’t been caught and banned already. It is time now to get it sorted because a small minority are going to turn many genuine supporters away from following the club especially away matches.
I think it is 4 consequitive away games at Scunthorpe now where we have had flares set off and other trouble in the ground.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: German Rover on January 24, 2018, 09:47:48 am
There was a cheeky runt wanting to cause trouble with some Scunny fans on the way out of the ground, he was complaining to the stewards/police saying that he had been hit by someone and I'm only 13, he's the next generation of our hooligans.

There were some punches thrown on way out with scunny fans. The police got hold of them. That'll be a three year banning order, a possible criminal conviction and everything that comes with it, all for a couple of punches. You just have to look at Amanda Rogers Twitter feed to see how draconian punishments are when football is involved.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: wesisback on January 24, 2018, 10:02:57 am
And there is another section effected I was in the wings of the side to the right and one chap had a bab asthma attack with the pyro, I'm asthmatic my self and it gets to me so I know how he feels

It's time these knobjockeys were "outed"for good .
For years our supporters were recognised as some of the friendliest by oppo clubs and their supporters which meant that low level stewarding was granted to us however over the last few seasons these t**ts have undone years of hard work done by our own supporters club, self- stewarding and excellent police liason support . Somehow we need to get these idiots away from games , some know who they are ......now get them banned for life please especially the pyromaniacs !!
These idiots don't represent our club and we want it back from them asap.
With all the CCTV in the grounds I can’t understand why most these morons haven’t been caught and banned already. It is time now to get it sorted because a small minority are going to turn many genuine supporters away from following the club especially away matches.
I think it is 4 consequitive away games at Scunthorpe now where we have had flares set off and other trouble in the ground.
Having been lucky enough to spend time in a football control room, it's incredibly difficult to pinpoint the exact point it gets set off and as you can imagine the purportrators don't hold onto it for long. While HD cameras have moved the efforts forward, working out the person to the seat is practically impossible.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Nudga on January 24, 2018, 10:38:20 am
A big reason why I don't go much anymore. I like to take my two young lads but the last 5 or 6 times we've been something has happened within our own fans that has shit them up.
They particularly enjoy it anymore so what's the point going?
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: MEGA1879 on January 24, 2018, 10:53:05 am
Load of b*llocks!!!
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: graingrover on January 24, 2018, 11:01:23 am
I have to show my age and intolerance at bad social behavior by condemning ALSO some of our chants . There seem to be fewer chants in support of our team  and more e moronic chants X place is a s***house being the most popular . The nasty chants when Bishop was lying with a serious injury were  not clever nor will they do much for the image of our club in the broader football community.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Filo on January 24, 2018, 11:10:16 am
Load of b*llocks!!!

What is?
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: MEGA1879 on January 24, 2018, 11:29:09 am
Don't boo or Sing certain Songs!!! It's a f**kin football match. I dispear😣
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: anton123 on January 24, 2018, 11:44:26 am
Iv never take a pyro to a game myself but I like it when we use them as it creates a great atmosphere, I understand some people have trouble with the smoke but we know they usually go off at the back of the stand direct behind the goal so why don’t people who don’t like been apart of that sit near the front and to the side
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: anne honemous on January 24, 2018, 11:45:32 am
Iv never take a pyro to a game myself but I like it when we use them as it creates a great atmosphere, I understand some people have trouble with the smoke but we know they usually go off at the back of the stand direct behind the goal so why don’t people who don’t like been apart of that sit near the front and to the side

Problem with pyros is the smoke goes everywhere and isn't just contained to a small section at the back of the stand.

Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Filo on January 24, 2018, 11:51:31 am
Iv never take a pyro to a game myself but I like it when we use them as it creates a great atmosphere, I understand some people have trouble with the smoke but we know they usually go off at the back of the stand direct behind the goal so why don’t people who don’t like been apart of that sit near the front and to the side

You mean like people wishing to sit go to the front, and the selfish t**ts that want to stand go to the front as well, that works really well does n't it, as was demonstrated last night
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: anton123 on January 24, 2018, 11:57:44 am
There was plenty of space to sit and see last night guess u didn’t look hard enough, it’s only the odd occasion when we sell out anyway , but hey ho u can’t please everyone I guess
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Filo on January 24, 2018, 12:08:11 pm
There was plenty of space to sit and see last night guess u didn’t look hard enough, it’s only the odd occasion when we sell out anyway , but hey ho u can’t please everyone I guess

I was on the front row, you'd expect to get an unobstuctive view from there, but in the second half most of the single cell pond life came down to the front obstructing any view that I and many others had, then there were the two hooligan old lasses and some lads having a bit of a fight.

Where do you think I should have sat to accomodate the selfish t**ts?
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: rtid88 on January 24, 2018, 12:08:51 pm
Don't boo or Sing certain Songs!!! It's a f**kin football match. I dispear😣

Clearly one of the morons from last night!

After going away to watch us at the Emirates and our own fans ruining a lot of peoples enjoyment of the game by fighting amongst themselves, refusing to sit down when asked by elderly people or people with kids, flares been thrown onto the pitch, I have very little interest in going to any away games these days. Far too many idiots who are not there to support the club/ players/manager but purely to act like pillocks!
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Filo on January 24, 2018, 12:10:14 pm
Don't boo or Sing certain Songs!!! It's a f**kin football match. I dispear😣

Clearly one of the morons from last night!

After going away to watch us at the Emirates and our own fans ruining a lot of peoples enjoyment of the game by fighting amongst themselves, refusing to sit down when asked by elderly people or people with kids, flares been thrown onto the pitch, I have very little interest in going to any away games these days. Far too many idiots who are not there to support the club/ players/manager but purely to act like pillocks!

Most of them don't even watch the game
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: IDM on January 24, 2018, 12:15:15 pm
Iv never take a pyro to a game myself but I like it when we use them as it creates a great atmosphere, I understand some people have trouble with the smoke but we know they usually go off at the back of the stand direct behind the goal so why don’t people who don’t like been apart of that sit near the front and to the side

Which bit of pyros being illegal in football stadia don’t you understand?
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: rich1471 on January 24, 2018, 12:16:19 pm
There was a cheeky runt wanting to cause trouble with some Scunny fans on the way out of the ground, he was complaining to the stewards/police saying that he had been hit by someone and I'm only 13, he's the next generation of our hooligans.He did get punched in the face from a lad who looked about 20 , some rovers fan said he did not punch him hard enough he did look like a little scoot as well

Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: RedJ on January 24, 2018, 12:17:06 pm
Iv never take a pyro to a game myself but I like it when we use them as it creates a great atmosphere, I understand some people have trouble with the smoke but we know they usually go off at the back of the stand direct behind the goal so why don’t people who don’t like been apart of that sit near the front and to the side

Problem with pyros is the smoke goes everywhere and isn't just contained to a small section at the back of the stand.



Compounded by the fact that the stand is tiny and the roof pretty low.






The ones at Brentford are the only time I've ever thought they added anything to the occasion, and even then it was still a daft idea. Looked great in the pictures but could've done serious harm.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: anton123 on January 24, 2018, 12:29:30 pm
Like I said guys iv never taken 1 to a match myself but it’s just my view that I kinda enjoy to see the red smoke going off now and again
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: silent majority on January 24, 2018, 12:48:40 pm
There was a cheeky runt wanting to cause trouble with some Scunny fans on the way out of the ground, he was complaining to the stewards/police saying that he had been hit by someone and I'm only 13, he's the next generation of our hooligans.

There were some punches thrown on way out with scunny fans. The police got hold of them. That'll be a three year banning order, a possible criminal conviction and everything that comes with it, all for a couple of punches. You just have to look at Amanda Rogers Twitter feed to see how draconian punishments are when football is involved.

Amanda Rogers?
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: German Rover on January 24, 2018, 12:57:41 pm
The fsf solicitor. Looks after football supporters. Fsf fair cop I think it is on Twitter.  Big fan of her work
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: German Rover on January 24, 2018, 01:03:06 pm
Amanda jacks! Ha ha ha
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: silent majority on January 24, 2018, 01:26:17 pm
And she's not the solicitor either. Amanda is our case worker who works in tandem with the authorities and a legal team who are absolutely excellent at what they do.


But thanks for the shout out, she is very good at what she does.

Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: RoversAlias on January 24, 2018, 01:48:55 pm
Like I said guys iv never taken 1 to a match myself but it’s just my view that I kinda enjoy to see the red smoke going off now and again

You'd not enjoy it if you had asthma like myself and many other supporters, or if you had a young kid with you. Or if it got set off near you and injured you. Just selfish of those who do bring them and let them off.

Supporters maybe need searching better before going in to lessen the chances of this happening too.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: RedJ on January 24, 2018, 02:03:24 pm
Last night they only seemed to search the people that wear stuff you'd associate with trouble causers like the scarf over the face getup etc.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: southwestexile on January 24, 2018, 02:30:05 pm
Dear Viz, I had to laugh at the '.........is a shithole' song when it was sung in Shrewsbury, as it is clearly one of the nicest towns in the U.K.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: aidanstu on January 24, 2018, 03:01:12 pm
And there is another section effected I was in the wings of the side to the right and one chap had a bab asthma attack with the pyro, I'm asthmatic my self and it gets to me so I know how he feels

It's time these knobjockeys were "outed"for good .
For years our supporters were recognised as some of the friendliest by oppo clubs and their supporters which meant that low level stewarding was granted to us however over the last few seasons these t**ts have undone years of hard work done by our own supporters club, self- stewarding and excellent police liason support . Somehow we need to get these idiots away from games , some know who they are ......now get them banned for life please especially the pyromaniacs !!
These idiots don't represent our club and we want it back from them asap.

I agree but it’s equally
Offensive to make a homophobic comment like you just did.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Dr Fundlekrotch on January 24, 2018, 03:33:38 pm
Last night they only seemed to search the people that wear stuff you'd associate with trouble causers like the scarf over the face getup etc.

And that will be everyone if the pyros are going off so they can breathe
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: RedJ on January 24, 2018, 03:45:51 pm
Last night they only seemed to search the people that wear stuff you'd associate with trouble causers like the scarf over the face getup etc.

And that will be everyone if the pyros are going off so they can breathe

What, so everybody with a ticket will be going towards the turnstiles with scarves over their face so they can breathe through a pyro that may or may not be at a game?
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: drfchound on January 24, 2018, 03:55:29 pm
Dear Viz, I had to laugh at the '.........is a shithole' song when it was sung in Shrewsbury, as it is clearly one of the nicest towns in the U.K.





Don’t know if anyone else picked up on this, two minutes after the “Scunthorpe’s a sh*t hole” song they decided to sing the “ don’t take me home, please don’t take me home” song.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 24, 2018, 04:11:04 pm
Our fans are far far away from being the worst in the football league in regards to trouble and idiocy.

Expect similar will happen when we play Rotherham however it happens with every team.

Problem with smoke bombs they drop it on the floor as they don’t want to be identified. Held in the air above would cause as much of an issue.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 24, 2018, 04:35:59 pm
Like I said guys iv never taken 1 to a match myself but it’s just my view that I kinda enjoy to see the red smoke going off now and again

And that's you idea of 'an atmosphere'? You're at a football match FFS, you've already got an atmosphere,
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Mike_F on January 24, 2018, 04:47:33 pm
I've never had much of an issue with pyro before and I used to love watching Gazzetta Football Italia back in the '90s with flares going off in the stands and the like but last night I couldn't see the pitch, found it hard to breathe and got a really sore throat thanks to the density of the smoke in the stand. It was horrible for a reasonably fit and healthy bloke like me so it must've been awful for children and asthma sufferers.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 24, 2018, 04:49:09 pm
I've never had much of an issue with pyro before and I used to love watching Gazzetta Football Italia back in the '90s with flares going off in the stands and the like but last night I couldn't see the pitch, found it hard to breathe and got a really sore throat thanks to the density of the smoke in the stand. It was horrible for a reasonably fit and healthy bloke like me so it must've been awful for children and asthma sufferers.

But it creates 'an atmosphere'!!
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: ZiggerZagger on January 24, 2018, 05:21:48 pm
I blame Rus Abbot ....... :coat:
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Campsall rover on January 24, 2018, 07:25:27 pm
Iv never take a pyro to a game myself but I like it when we use them as it creates a great atmosphere, I understand some people have trouble with the smoke but we know they usually go off at the back of the stand direct behind the goal so why don’t people who don’t like been apart of that sit near the front and to the side
Are you serious. They are a serious health hazard to any one with breathing difficulties and they are ILLEGAL. Have you never noticed smoke does not stay in one place.
We even had one total nutter who set one off in a motorway service station a couple of years ago.



Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Filo on January 24, 2018, 07:54:42 pm
Iv never take a pyro to a game myself but I like it when we use them as it creates a great atmosphere, I understand some people have trouble with the smoke but we know they usually go off at the back of the stand direct behind the goal so why don’t people who don’t like been apart of that sit near the front and to the side

The first one let off last night was let off to the left of the goal as the fans faced the pitch, so I reckon your really helpful advice really worked did n't it?
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: normal rules on January 24, 2018, 10:00:34 pm
Everyone on here has phones with cameras. Take pics, vids, give them to plod. Easy.
Less talk, more do.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: anne honemous on January 24, 2018, 10:09:39 pm
Everyone on here has phones with cameras. Take pics, vids, give them to plod. Easy.
Less talk, more do.

Exactly what people should do at the Rotherham game in a few weeks.

Our fans have been arguing amongst themselves for years though. Remember 'poogate' at Orient or the fighting in the stands at Hartlepool? They were at least five years ago.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: the vicar on January 24, 2018, 10:26:23 pm
Iv never take a pyro to a game myself but I like it when we use them as it creates a great atmosphere, I understand some people have trouble with the smoke but we know they usually go off at the back of the stand direct behind the goal so why don’t people who don’t like been apart of that sit near the front and to the side
for your information I was sat to the extreme right of the stand and it goes alone the roof and films the whole stand it affected my breathing so much I had to go out side till it went so I missed parts of the game, so is that right
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: the vicar on January 24, 2018, 10:38:00 pm
Like I said guys iv never taken 1 to a match myself but it’s just my view that I kinda enjoy to see the red smoke going off now and again

You'd not enjoy it if you had asthma like myself and many other supporters, or if you had a young kid with you. Or if it got set off near you and injured you. Just selfish of those who do bring them and let them off.

Supporters maybe need searching better before going in to lessen the chances of this happening too.
I to have asthma and c.o.p.d and can't breathe correctly best of times, but it is impossible to when they set them off. They give the pyros to the younger fans to take in as they never get searched cos of their age
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Filo on January 24, 2018, 10:55:53 pm
I blame Rus Abbot ....... :coat:

Oh what an atmosphere
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Filo on January 24, 2018, 11:03:17 pm
https://fsoa.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Smoke-Bombs-Flares-and-Fireworks-Factsheet-for-FSF1.docx
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: rich1471 on January 24, 2018, 11:44:39 pm
Like I said guys iv never taken 1 to a match myself but it’s just my view that I kinda enjoy to see the red smoke going off now and again

You'd not enjoy it if you had asthma like myself and many other supporters, or if you had a young kid with you. Or if it got set off near you and injured you. Just selfish of those who do bring them and let them off.

Supporters maybe need searching better before going in to lessen the chances of this happening too.
I to have asthma and c.o.p.d and can't breathe correctly best of times, but it is impossible to when they set them off. They give the pyros to the younger fans to take in as they never get searched cos of their age
yesterday I entered the ground with a multi tool I had on me by mistake in my coat , it has a 3 inch blade as part of it and I was searched the only to stop people entering the ground with pyros is to search people properly
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: anton123 on January 25, 2018, 07:00:18 am
Do we have and evidence of are fans who have been injured or take to hospital cos they could not breath because of the smoke ? If so then people who enjoy the show of smoke might understand what you are getting at but all I see at the min is lots of people who don’t like the young lads and there antics so jump on here and winge
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Dagenham Rover on January 25, 2018, 07:41:36 am
Do we have and evidence of are fans who have been injured or take to hospital cos they could not breath because of the smoke ? If so then people who enjoy the show of smoke might understand what you are getting at but all I see at the min is lots of people who don’t like the young lads and there antics so jump on here and winge


A 10 second google  but not up to date



Recent examples of injuries caused by pyrotechnics at English football grounds

•   Leeds United v Shrewsbury Town, 11 August 2012 – two supporters were injured, one requiring hospital treatment, when an industrial firework was ignited and thrown in the away supporters’ toilet. 
•   Coventry City v Walsall, 8 December 2012 - a flare was discharged by the Walsall supporters. A steward placed his foot on the device to prevent further smoke escaping, however the sole of his shoe melted causing injury.
•   Leicester City v Sheffield Wednesday, 9 March 2013 - a female supporter received treatment for burns to her leg from one of the smoke bombs thrown between supporters. 
•   Bolton Wanderers v Huddersfield Town, 2 April 2013 - Bolton supporters ignited a flare and an 18 year old youth was treated for burns picking it up.
•   West Bromwich Albion v Newcastle United, 20 April 2013 – fans were treated for shrapnel wounds following the setting off of thunder flashes. Debris passed through jeans and caused cuts to legs.
•   Wigan Athletic v Aston Villa, May 2013 - a 15-year-old boy suffered lung damage from a smoke bomb thrown during the game. The boy needed hospital treatment, while two women aged 22 and 24, also required attention for the effects of the device.
•   Liverpool v Everton, May 2013 – an eight year Everton fan was hit by a smoke bomb thrown by fans in the away end. He was treated for a burn on his neck on his first visit to a Merseyside derby.
•   Aston Villa v Tottenham Hotspur on 20 October 2013 - an assistant referee was struck by a lit smoke canister thrown from the stand.



Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: IDM on January 25, 2018, 07:56:04 am
Do we have and evidence of are fans who have been injured or take to hospital cos they could not breath because of the smoke ? If so then people who enjoy the show of smoke might understand what you are getting at but all I see at the min is lots of people who don’t like the young lads and there antics so jump on here and winge

are you serious?

why not do the research yourself, to understand why these things are illegal at football.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: the vicar on January 25, 2018, 07:59:36 am
Do we have and evidence of are fans who have been injured or take to hospital cos they could not breath because of the smoke ? If so then people who enjoy the show of smoke might understand what you are getting at but all I see at the min is lots of people who don’t like the young lads and there antics so jump on here and winge
no one said anyone went to hospital cos they could not breathe I SAID it affected people in the ground that could not, Me for one and another chap, but that does not seem to bother you and the others that actually use the damn things, you seem to condone the idiots using them, some won't be happy or things done till something does happen and someone ether does get taken to hospital or even dies, it seems to be ok with you because you  don't have a breathing problem but it WILL drive our fans away
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 25, 2018, 08:03:01 am
Do we have and evidence of are fans who have been injured or take to hospital cos they could not breath because of the smoke ? If so then people who enjoy the show of smoke might understand what you are getting at but all I see at the min is lots of people who don’t like the young lads and there antics so jump on here and winge

The people who have given personal accounts of their own difficulties on this very forum ARE evidence, you pillock.

You want to enjoy smoke? Go to a bonfire and have an orgasm.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Filo on January 25, 2018, 08:05:42 am
Do we have and evidence of are fans who have been injured or take to hospital cos they could not breath because of the smoke ? If so then people who enjoy the show of smoke might understand what you are getting at but all I see at the min is lots of people who don’t like the young lads and there antics so jump on here and winge

Probably the most stupid post on here regarding smoke bombs, it must make you wonder why the powers that be ban them eh?
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: the vicar on January 25, 2018, 08:10:27 am
Anyone that finds it good fun that others take them in to the ground should get a lengthy  BAN from any football ground in the country as they are just as bad as the idiots
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 25, 2018, 08:13:02 am
Anyone that finds it good fun that others take them in to the ground should get a lengthy  BAN from any football ground in the country as they are just as bad as the idiots

But being able to gasp in wonder at a puff of smoke outweighs any distress fellow supporters might have to endure!!
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: anton123 on January 25, 2018, 08:23:19 am
Orr Glyn give it a rest it’s a debate page and all I said was I don’t mine it so that means I should get a ban haha 😂 , no wonder there is so much arguing at rovers game with busy body’s like u about
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 25, 2018, 08:32:23 am
Orr Glyn give it a rest it’s a debate page and all I said was I don’t mine it so that means I should get a ban haha 😂 , no wonder there is so much arguing at rovers game with busy body’s like u about

And I'm debating, so I won't give it a rest.

I've never said you should have a ban. Why do you think I did?

Them stewards, police and other supporters who want the rules followed for others' safety are real busybodies aren't they. Bas**rds, eh?
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Filo on January 25, 2018, 08:48:52 am
Orr Glyn give it a rest it’s a debate page and all I said was I don’t mine it so that means I should get a ban haha 😂 , no wonder there is so much arguing at rovers game with busy body’s like u about

You also said that those that object to it are doing so to have a whinge
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: the vicar on January 25, 2018, 08:54:10 am
If I am winging about others affecting my health that is poor anyway then I am guilty
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: IDM on January 25, 2018, 09:04:06 am
Orr Glyn give it a rest it’s a debate page and all I said was I don’t mine it so that means I should get a ban haha 😂 , no wonder there is so much arguing at rovers game with busy body’s like u about

Yes it is a debate, but getting away from any personal or OTT remarks, you aren't going to win a debate on pyros at football.  That's not an age thing either, it's a legal thing and also common sense.

So what if coloured smoke looks great?  I think it looks great too, but the other issues outweigh the "look".  Having an opinion is all well and good, but that doesn't mean you can't be wrong..
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: glosterred on January 25, 2018, 12:56:34 pm
Into the 3rd page of some of our fans are total d**kheads, which surprises me as I thought it was a given!


COYR
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: RedJ on January 25, 2018, 01:08:54 pm
I quite like how they look, so you could say I "enjoy the show". What I don't like is having my lungs f**king filled with the stuff because it's being set off in an enclosed space where there's next to no escape, with a young child who can barely breathe because of it, isn't my idea of enjoyment.

It's not too bad on an open terrace as at least the smoke can dissipate into the sky unimpeded, but it still goes everywhere with the wind. And as stated, the people who set them off lob them on the floor as soon as they can anyway, so not only are they selfish as f**k, they're too cowardly to allow themselves to be held to account. They want to feel rebellious without actually getting caught. No surprise that it's mostly younger people that do it.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: anne honemous on January 25, 2018, 01:19:16 pm
The pyro smoke bomb is the toy of choice for the wannabee hooligans who will also run around outside afterwards giving it large and trying to provoke something with fellow teeny boppers from the opposition.

It'll be exactly the same in Rotherham in a few weeks!

If you put them in a pub with a few tables, chairs, proper blokes and some blades knocking about, I suddenly doubt they'd be so boisterous.

Always been the same but as they grow up and get older, they'll learn.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 25, 2018, 01:31:46 pm
I quite like how they look, so you could say I "enjoy the show". What I don't like is having my lungs f**king filled with the stuff because it's being set off in an enclosed space where there's next to no escape, with a young child who can barely breathe because of it, isn't my idea of enjoyment.

It's not too bad on an open terrace as at least the smoke can dissipate into the sky unimpeded, but it still goes everywhere with the wind. And as stated, the people who set them off lob them on the floor as soon as they can anyway, so not only are they selfish as f**k, they're too cowardly to allow themselves to be held to account. They want to feel rebellious without actually getting caught. No surprise that it's mostly younger people that do it.

And, of course, when they're chucked on the floor the fumes are coming at people from below and are denser and more concentrated. At least when they're held aloft there's a good chances the fumes will go straight into any wind and over people's heads. But no, being a coward is the order of the day. Still, the smoke makes some people's match 'experience' so much better that it outweighs the distress it causes so many other people, so that's alright then.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: RedJ on January 25, 2018, 01:41:16 pm
The pyro smoke bomb is the toy of choice for the wannabee hooligans who will also run around outside afterwards giving it large and trying to provoke something with fellow teeny boppers from the opposition.

It'll be exactly the same in Rotherham in a few weeks!

If you put them in a pub with a few tables, chairs, proper blokes and some blades knocking about, I suddenly doubt they'd be so boisterous.

Always been the same but as they grow up and get older, they'll learn.

Or when they mouth off at the wrong person and get a good hiding.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Axholme Lion on January 25, 2018, 02:25:36 pm
And there is another section effected I was in the wings of the side to the right and one chap had a bab asthma attack with the pyro, I'm asthmatic my self and it gets to me so I know how he feels

It's time these knobjockeys were "outed"for good .
For years our supporters were recognised as some of the friendliest by oppo clubs and their supporters which meant that low level stewarding was granted to us however over the last few seasons these t**ts have undone years of hard work done by our own supporters club, self- stewarding and excellent police liason support . Somehow we need to get these idiots away from games , some know who they are ......now get them banned for life please especially the pyromaniacs !!
These idiots don't represent our club and we want it back from them asap.
With all the CCTV in the grounds I can’t understand why most these morons haven’t been caught and banned already. It is time now to get it sorted because a small minority are going to turn many genuine supporters away from following the club especially away matches.
I think it is 4 consequitive away games at Scunthorpe now where we have had flares set off and other trouble in the ground.
Having been lucky enough to spend time in a football control room, it's incredibly difficult to pinpoint the exact point it gets set off and as you can imagine the purportrators don't hold onto it for long. While HD cameras have moved the efforts forward, working out the person to the seat is practically impossible.

Do Doncaster fans sit in the seats allocated on their tickets or just stand up anywhere?
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: RedJ on January 25, 2018, 03:44:42 pm
Bit of both.

Mostly the latter.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: RedArmy on January 25, 2018, 06:13:09 pm
Agree, expect to see similar behaviour at Rotherham. Can spoil it for the majority. Dont get me wrong its great to celebrate a goal with randomers because the team you all love have just scored but to celebrate with a smoke bomb? no need. My Opinion of course before i am shot down.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: DRFC-Hanksie on January 26, 2018, 12:13:39 pm
To be fair I'm hearing one of the incidents was a woman taking a swing because a lad used a very offensive racist term. I hope she caught him cleanly.

That's what i've heard too. Same lad who dressed in a burka at Bradford. Absolute f**king muppet.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on January 26, 2018, 01:27:41 pm
To be fair I'm hearing one of the incidents was a woman taking a swing because a lad used a very offensive racist term. I hope she caught him cleanly.

That's what i've heard too. Same lad who dressed in a burka at Bradford. Absolute f**king muppet.

Wouldn't it be karma if he did the same at the home match against Bradford. And got the shit kicked out of him by some real racists. :lol:
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: wesisback on January 26, 2018, 02:50:53 pm
The charges were dropped after his arrest at the game and the ladies were arrested in this incident. When you think about some of the trivial incidents that football fans are charged for it makes a mockery of the justice system.
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: turnbull for england on January 26, 2018, 06:53:09 pm
The charges were dropped after his arrest at the game and the ladies were arrested in this incident. When you think about some of the trivial incidents that football fans are charged for it makes a mockery of the justice system.
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The ladies weren't arrested, as I said earlier they left of their own accord and ended on good terms with the police
Title: Re: Some of our fans are total d**kheads
Post by: wesisback on January 26, 2018, 07:11:00 pm
Apologies, I admit I heard that third hand and lazily didn't check.