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Title: Ellis Harrison
Post by: GazLaz on January 27, 2018, 04:49:15 pm
What a player he is. Pace, can finish, gets stuck in, good in the air. Stood out a mile for Bristol today.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: esdailles left foot on January 27, 2018, 05:08:38 pm
If he's anything other than a midfielder, forget it.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Filo on January 27, 2018, 05:27:49 pm
Should have ota second yellowbefore he scored
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: nortikorner on January 27, 2018, 05:37:06 pm
Would not have got a look in if Butler had been playing . should have been sent off for a foot up at Lawlor and i believe the same at Wright for him to go off
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: GazLaz on January 27, 2018, 05:40:51 pm
Would not have got a look in if Butler had been playing . should have been sent off for a foot up at Lawlor and i believe the same at Wright for him to go off

Butler is our injured and people are talking about him like he is Tony Adams!
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Padge_DRFC on January 27, 2018, 05:43:19 pm
Would not have got a look in if Butler had been playing . should have been sent off for a foot up at Lawlor and i believe the same at Wright for him to go off

Butler is our injured and people are talking about him like he is Tony Adams!

Because Alcock is that bad!

I’m also starting to wonder who is worse Evian or Garrett.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: RoversAlias on January 27, 2018, 05:46:53 pm
I don't care how well he did as a centre forward for them, he was a total cock. Committed about a dozen fouls, no exaggeration and should have been carded long before the foul late on that got him a yellow. I'd rather have Marquis. Summed it up with that drop ball he endured was smashed as hard as he could away from the goalie. Pillock of the highest order.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: goalkick on January 27, 2018, 05:50:17 pm
Garrett was easily relieved of the ball but with the situation today with the defence did his best.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: DonnyOsmond on January 27, 2018, 05:50:25 pm
That's probably how opposition see Marquis.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Cantley Rover on January 27, 2018, 06:04:19 pm
I would swap him for Marquis tomorrow.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 27, 2018, 06:10:30 pm
Hard to judge look what he was up against from us today we’ll make lot of strikers look good with that back 3 I think.

Not criticising the lads just a fact it’s not their position and it’s unlucky to have 3, 4 if you count luke, centre back out
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: RobTheRover on January 27, 2018, 06:31:02 pm
I've not felt as much ire towards a player since Wellens at Oldham many years ago. Can we sign him? He's ace. Plays hard, runs fast, can finish, and winds up opposition players and fans. What a package.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: GazLaz on January 27, 2018, 06:37:44 pm
I've not felt as much ire towards a player since Wellens at Oldham many years ago. Can we sign him? He's ace. Plays hard, runs fast, can finish, and winds up opposition players and fans. What a package.

He was actually decent in the air as well for a small lad. He will get a move before too long.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: northern soul on January 27, 2018, 06:47:09 pm
He won't be there for to long if that's how he plays.
I said during game, I hope kiwomya does the same for us.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Capmeister on January 27, 2018, 06:55:06 pm
You kidding right? He was up against a makeshift back four. Only Mason’s a regular. Alcock got a gash on his leg as long as me arm
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: GazLaz on January 27, 2018, 06:55:28 pm
He won't be there for to long if that's how he plays.
I said during game, I hope kiwomya does the same for us.

Kiwomya hasn’t got that physicality to his game I don’t think.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: moses on January 27, 2018, 06:56:16 pm
I was thinking, he is a bas**rd, but I want to see him in a Rovers shirt.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Draytonian III on January 27, 2018, 07:19:20 pm
He played well but ,his strike rate is 1 in 4 in League 1 or lower, not exactly setting the world on fire.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: mrfrostsdad on January 27, 2018, 07:22:31 pm
Best player on the pitch by a country mile today
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: RugbyRover on January 27, 2018, 07:29:01 pm
I agree: he put the fear of god into poor little Mason. I think that lad has a big future in the game, looks like he can do everything......wonder how much he would go for?
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: GazLaz on January 27, 2018, 07:30:03 pm
He played well but ,his strike rate is 1 in 4 in League 1 or lower, not exactly setting the world on fire.

Believe what you see with your eyes, not what wikipedia tells you.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: GazLaz on January 27, 2018, 07:31:06 pm
I agree: he put the fear of god into poor little Mason. I think that lad has a big future in the game, looks like he can do everything......wonder how much he would go for?

A team like Wigan or Blackburn would be nicking him at half a million quid.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: RugbyRover on January 27, 2018, 07:51:47 pm
I agree: he put the fear of god into poor little Mason. I think that lad has a big future in the game, looks like he can do everything......wonder how much he would go for?

A team like Wigan or Blackburn would be nicking him at half a million quid.

looks like he's a bit older than I thought, I thought he was a young kid but seems to be 24...maybe a late developer? seems he had a few misdemeanours in his early career.

he can't play that well every game else someone would have picked him up already. Certainly one of the standout performances at the Keepmoat this season tho.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: bobbymax on January 27, 2018, 07:58:35 pm
Here's the alternative view.
All I saw was a dirty t@*t who spent most of the game barging into whichever defender happed to be nearest the ball as it fell out the sky. He should have been booked long before he was and off for that shocking challenge on Alcock. They were the most limited, one dimensional team I've seen all season. Had we had any fit defenders, they wouldn't have got a sniff.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 27, 2018, 08:00:42 pm
If he can bully proper defences the way he did our defiantly a good player, but has to be said that he was playing against a young fullback, an ageing and out of form/practise fullback and a sub fullback in a back three. not the best barometer for judging players quality
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: StocktonRover on January 27, 2018, 08:04:45 pm
Am I the only one who thinks he should have been red carded after the challenge on Alcock. Not just for the challenge but for the fact behind the refs back after he was booked he swung out at Whitman (?)
I can understand the ref not seeing it but both Lino’s and the 4th official should have seen it.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Donnywolf on January 27, 2018, 08:07:34 pm
Would not have got a look in if Butler had been playing . should have been sent off for a foot up at Lawlor and i believe the same at Wright for him to go off

Wonder if their game plan included to "target" in Joe Wright ? Obviously they knew we were depleted at CB and if we had just the one how good would it be to get at him / nobble him ?
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Drover on January 27, 2018, 08:08:49 pm
He played well but ,his strike rate is 1 in 4 in League 1 or lower, not exactly setting the world on fire.

Believe what you see with your eyes, not what wikipedia tells you.

Not after 1 game! Many,Many players have looked world beaters in their first game for Rovers,only to end up being a bag of cack.And as sewardsdrfc says,with the 1st choice CH pair missing,Wright going off injured early and with players playing out of position,that was one of the weakest/disjointed defense I have seen us play for a longtime(years).Mind you,I was'nt at Glandford park Tues.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: The Red Baron on January 27, 2018, 08:10:35 pm
With a strong referee he'd have been off before half time for an accumulation of fouls. The over the top tackle on Alcock was worth a red all on its own.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Donnywolf on January 27, 2018, 08:10:44 pm
Am I the only one who thinks he should have been red carded after the challenge on Alcock. Not just for the challenge but for the fact behind the refs back after he was booked he swung out at Whitman (?)
I can understand the ref not seeing it but both Lino’s and the 4th official should have seen it.

No you are not. He was at it all game - fouling - diving - & hounding Lawlor twice in the same passage of play. Then the "tackle" on Alcock was a bad un. Then of course there were handbags afterwards which the East Stand Lino clearly saw and of course ignored

Good stand out Player - bad sportsman !
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: roversdude on January 27, 2018, 08:12:59 pm
Am I the only one who thinks he should have been red carded after the challenge on Alcock. Not just for the challenge but for the fact behind the refs back after he was booked he swung out at Whitman (?)
I can understand the ref not seeing it but both Lino’s and the 4th official should have seen it.

Thought the challenge in itself warranted a red
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Draytonian III on January 27, 2018, 08:20:30 pm
My eyes have seen a lot of players Gaz Lad whilst watching football,mainly Rovers, and I believe I'm a fair judge of a player both good and bad.
Also unlike yourself I don't comment or pick at other people's post just for arguments sake
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: dickos1 on January 27, 2018, 08:32:36 pm
Their manager transfer listed him after 6 weeks in the job and then obviously changed his mind
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: drfchound on January 27, 2018, 08:43:13 pm
Am I the only one who thinks he should have been red carded after the challenge on Alcock. Not just for the challenge but for the fact behind the refs back after he was booked he swung out at Whitman (?)
I can understand the ref not seeing it but both Lino’s and the 4th official should have seen it.

No you are not. He was at it all game - fouling - diving - & hounding Lawlor twice in the same passage of play. Then the "tackle" on Alcock was a bad un. Then of course there were handbags afterwards which the East Stand Lino clearly saw and of course ignored

Good stand out Player - bad sportsman !






I also agree with the above points but would add that he swung a punch at Alcock in the first half.
A good player yes but should have been sent off long before he scored.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: selby on January 27, 2018, 08:45:46 pm
  He was like a fish out of water at Bristol, the big ginger lad gave us much more trouble over the two games.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: drfchound on January 27, 2018, 08:50:52 pm
I forgot to say that Butler would have sorted Harrison out had he been on the pitch.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on January 27, 2018, 09:17:45 pm
The foul on Alcock was a shocking one. Stone cold red card. He was nowhere near getting a proper challenge in. Alcock was making a determined clearance and Harrison went over the top of the ball with his studs into Alcock’s shin.

Potential leg breaker as well as a coward’s challenge in that Harrison was never going to be hurt in a challenge like that. Very, very poor of the ref not to have seen it for what it was.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Dagenham Rover on January 27, 2018, 09:30:20 pm
He was pretty handy at kicking the ball away as well he did it twice in quick succesion early on should have been in the book then
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Retdon1 on January 27, 2018, 09:37:52 pm
I didn't think he was that good to be honest. I thought the ginger lad was their best player by far
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: The Red Baron on January 27, 2018, 09:38:27 pm
The foul on Alcock was a shocking one. Stone cold red card. He was nowhere near getting a proper challenge in. Alcock was making a determined clearance and Harrison went over the top of the ball with his studs into Alcock’s shin.

Potential leg breaker as well as a coward’s challenge in that Harrison was never going to be hurt in a challenge like that. Very, very poor of the ref not to have seen it for what it was.

Exactly how I saw it. The referee was pretty useless throughout so it was just one of many he got wrong.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: drfchound on January 27, 2018, 09:38:44 pm
The foul on Alcock was a shocking one. Stone cold red card. He was nowhere near getting a proper challenge in. Alcock was making a determined clearance and Harrison went over the top of the ball with his studs into Alcock’s shin.

Potential leg breaker as well as a coward’s challenge in that Harrison was never going to be hurt in a challenge like that. Very, very poor of the ref not to have seen it for what it was.





Agreed BST, Harrison could have been off a few times today.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Lesonthewest on January 28, 2018, 12:32:52 am
Here's the alternative view.
All I saw was a dirty t@*t who spent most of the game barging into whichever defender happed to be nearest the ball as it fell out the sky. He should have been booked long before he was and off for that shocking challenge on Alcock. They were the most limited, one dimensional team I've seen all season. Had we had any fit defenders, they wouldn't have got a sniff.

Agreed, we have 2 regular centre halves on the pitch he gets nowhere near us & would be dealt with, when Joe Wright was replaced he smelt blood & bullied his way through the game, we made it easy for him today.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Donnybax on January 28, 2018, 10:04:00 am
Dirty bas**rd he was. Every tackle he put in was shin height. A stronger referee would’ve sent him of before the hour.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 28, 2018, 10:25:33 am
Butler plays and Wright stays on he does nothing. Equally even average players have good days. Look at Lewis guy...
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Donnywolf on January 28, 2018, 11:13:37 am
Just seen the highlights and he did Lawlor as well after a near post catch cos he ran in and smashed him
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: drfc1951 on January 28, 2018, 11:15:55 am
The foul on Alcock was a shocking one. Stone cold red card. He was nowhere near getting a proper challenge in. Alcock was making a determined clearance and Harrison went over the top of the ball with his studs into Alcock’s shin.

Potential leg breaker as well as a coward’s challenge in that Harrison was never going to be hurt in a challenge like that. Very, very poor of the ref not to have seen it for what it was.





Agreed BST, Harrison could have been off a few times today.
The foul on Alcock was a shocking one. Stone cold red card. He was nowhere near getting a proper challenge in. Alcock was making a determined clearance and Harrison went over the top of the ball with his studs into Alcock’s shin.

Potential leg breaker as well as a coward’s challenge in that Harrison was never going to be hurt in a challenge like that. Very, very poor of the ref not to have seen it for what it was.

Fergie said on radio Sheffield Alcock had a 6 inch cut on his leg.





Agreed BST, Harrison could have been off a few times today.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: GazLaz on January 28, 2018, 02:12:14 pm
Last little bit from me on this lad. The theory that if Buts and Wright were playing he would have done nothing is nonsense for me. He could have been playing against Ferdinand and Terry and i would have thought the same. It was the process of why he did what he did that I liked more than any result of what he did. He did some very intelligent things. Numerous times he made sure he was left one on one with the defender he knew he would beat for pace and power, eventually getting his reward. It nearly paid off twice before. His movement from set pieces was excellent. He kept making the run to drag our left and right centre halves out so they could get a midfield runner, usually the caveman look a like, into the space created. He was a clever player, we will see where he is in two years.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: phil old leake on January 28, 2018, 02:39:40 pm
I agree with some of the comments above. He’s an absolute fxxxing cxxk with pace and who scores goals. He was a twxt yesterday
If he’d played for us we would be loving him
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: selby on January 28, 2018, 02:41:23 pm
  He will not be at as high a level as Gaffney. If we were to buy any of their players he would be the one to get.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: bobbymax on January 28, 2018, 05:19:20 pm
Last little bit from me on this lad. The theory that if Buts and Wright were playing he would have done nothing is nonsense for me. He could have been playing against Ferdinand and Terry and i would have thought the same. It was the process of why he did what he did that I liked more than any result of what he did. He did some very intelligent things. Numerous times he made sure he was left one on one with the defender he knew he would beat for pace and power, eventually getting his reward. It nearly paid off twice before. His movement from set pieces was excellent. He kept making the run to drag our left and right centre halves out so they could get a midfield runner, usually the caveman look a like, into the space created. He was a clever player, we will see where he is in two years.
All well and good, but you're still ignoring the fact that he had no conventional centre-half against him after he'd crocked Wright. It makes a hell of a difference if you're being marked by a bigger defender who knows his position. I maintain, he wouldn't have seen much of the ball against a Butler-type centre-back, I don't care how good you thought his movement was.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: GazLaz on January 28, 2018, 05:55:36 pm
Last little bit from me on this lad. The theory that if Buts and Wright were playing he would have done nothing is nonsense for me. He could have been playing against Ferdinand and Terry and i would have thought the same. It was the process of why he did what he did that I liked more than any result of what he did. He did some very intelligent things. Numerous times he made sure he was left one on one with the defender he knew he would beat for pace and power, eventually getting his reward. It nearly paid off twice before. His movement from set pieces was excellent. He kept making the run to drag our left and right centre halves out so they could get a midfield runner, usually the caveman look a like, into the space created. He was a clever player, we will see where he is in two years.
All well and good, but you're still ignoring the fact that he had no conventional centre-half against him after he'd crocked Wright. It makes a hell of a difference if you're being marked by a bigger defender who knows his position. I maintain, he wouldn't have seen much of the ball against a Butler-type centre-back, I don't care how good you thought his movement was.


You are surmising. I’m going on things that actually happened.
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Drover on January 28, 2018, 06:07:23 pm
Last little bit from me on this lad. The theory that if Buts and Wright were playing he would have done nothing is nonsense for me. He could have been playing against Ferdinand and Terry and i would have thought the same. It was the process of why he did what he did that I liked more than any result of what he did. He did some very intelligent things. Numerous times he made sure he was left one on one with the defender he knew he would beat for pace and power, eventually getting his reward. It nearly paid off twice before. His movement from set pieces was excellent. He kept making the run to drag our left and right centre halves out so they could get a midfield runner, usually the caveman look a like, into the space created. He was a clever player, we will see where he is in two years.

Even without Buts,We was playing very well and did'nt look like conceding a goal until Wright went off,So I beg to differ.I think Harrison had a very good game,but I think alot went right for him in that game,like the ref being soft on him,like other posters say,I'd much prefer Gaffney.   
Title: Re: Ellis Harrison
Post by: Drover on January 28, 2018, 06:13:48 pm
Last little bit from me on this lad. The theory that if Buts and Wright were playing he would have done nothing is nonsense for me. He could have been playing against Ferdinand and Terry and i would have thought the same. It was the process of why he did what he did that I liked more than any result of what he did. He did some very intelligent things. Numerous times he made sure he was left one on one with the defender he knew he would beat for pace and power, eventually getting his reward. It nearly paid off twice before. His movement from set pieces was excellent. He kept making the run to drag our left and right centre halves out so they could get a midfield runner, usually the caveman look a like, into the space created. He was a clever player, we will see where he is in two years.
All well and good, but you're still ignoring the fact that he had no conventional centre-half against him after he'd crocked Wright. It makes a hell of a difference if you're being marked by a bigger defender who knows his position. I maintain, he wouldn't have seen much of the ball against a Butler-type centre-back, I don't care how good you thought his movement was.


You are surmising. I’m going on things that actually happened.
What Actually happened when we played them at Memorial stadium away then? Wright,Baudry and Butler played,we won with a clean sheet.