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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Alickismyhero on January 27, 2018, 05:24:31 pm
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According to Willo, doing the commentary, we should have had 2 of the 3 shouts for penalties today.
What are the views of the supporters who went today.
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One shout, bit of a push on Blair. Would have been a bit soft I think.
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Willo made the comment that Fergie might get his gun out after the game.
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None of them looked good shouts to me.
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From the lack of replies Willo has got it wrong. One of the shouts was for a hand ball but none of our supporters even mention it. Lets see what Fergie says.
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Rowe dived, Mandeville was just crowded out. Blair was pushed but it was innocuous at best. Their player did handle the ball, but it was a bit unfortunate. Certainly haven’t come away thinking we were the victims of a big injustice. Just some wretched luck with central defensive injuries. I think we’d have won that game with a central defence.
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I don’t think any were pens
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What about first half on marquis
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Someone had their feet taken and the push was more than just a push. Both good shouts. In the premier league you would get them every time. Do we play to different rules?
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Same here. No pens for me. Mandeville tried to buy one. The push was more of a manoeuvring away from the ball. Rob Jones used to do it all the time.
As said, once Wright went off (fractured ribs!) it was a case of hoping we'd score more than them. With the chances created and missed, that could easily have happened.
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Someone had their feet taken and the push was more than just a push. Both good shouts. In the premier league you would get them every time. Do we play to different rules?
Yes, surely you must have noticed?
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Rowe dived, Mandeville was just crowded out. Blair was pushed but it was innocuous at best. Their player did handle the ball, but it was a bit unfortunate. Certainly haven’t come away thinking we were the victims of a big injustice. Just some wretched luck with central defensive injuries. I think we’d have won that game with a central defence.
Agree entirely, non of the penalty shouts looked penalties to me and with 2 proper centre backs would almost certainly have kept a clean sheet. All 3 goals were from poor defending to say the least.
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Looks like Willo was looking at the game through rose tinted glasses. A bit disappointing really I enjoyed his informed comments. We need two CB's with height at the back. It sounded to me we were bullied again and Fergie has got to get it sorted ASAP.
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I thought the mandeville shout was a penalty but not the others
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Some of them I can see why people think they were pens, Mandeville especially but not for me. Ref was crap but clutching at straws with these shouts today.
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Mandeville one was a clear pen. It was right in front of me. Their players never touched the ball and he was barged from behind. Couldn't understand it not being given.
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In the laws of the game it says holding,pushing and tripping and kicking at are direct free kicks, therefore in the box a penalty.If anyone can show me where it says little pushes, not holding for very long, or light kicks, and just a little trip are not a direct free kick , i will agree with every one who thinks we should not have had at least two penalties.
Until then I disagree with you, and pushing and holding a player for 5 yards is a definite penalty, as is the trip and kick on Mandeville in my book.
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Selby,
I find it very strange the majority don't seem to support the penalty shouts were they not at the South stand end?
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Well from half way line in West Stand we were incensed that they weren’t given and that their number 9 wasn’t booked as early as when Wright got injured
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Alick I was in the West stand under the camera, and I think they are talking tripe.
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The worst tackle of the game resulted in Wright getting injured, if the referee did not think that the Bristol Rovers player did not play the ball ( he gave a corner ) then why is it not a tackle from behind, and could have been a sending off.
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The black guy for them was he the winger I think was a dirty sod all the game he was fouling all the time
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Just seen the Marquis miss/foul in the first half. It was either a penalty or Marquis wasn’t sacking.
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None of them penalties for me (west stand) and the first goal wasn't bad defending but awful goalkeeping. It was Lawlors ball all day long but he didn't give a call or come with any conviction for it.
The miss by Marquis in the first half was laughable
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We are getting a reputation for going down easy in the box and looking for penalties.
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Not the referees pulling together then, Rovers 91 and defending their reputation.
It smacks of one sided refereeing to me, and referees telling the assistants to leave the penalty areas to them.
In all the penalty shouts we have had over the last few weeks ( and quite a few were nailed on ) not one assistant has tried to take part in the game. it is disgusting when you consider how much money, and peoples jobs are at stake.
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I thought that they were all penalties at the time and unless I see something to convince me otherwise on the highlights I stand by that.
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I thought that they were all penalties at the time and unless I see something to convince me otherwise on the highlights I stand by that.
I made it 5 clear shouts for Penalties - by that I mean 2/3 rds of the Fans "going up". I am also in the West and I thought 2 maybe not 2 almost certain and 1 undecided
In the first half the "Ref" gave them a foul when one of our defenders eased one of them off the ball from a Corner - ok fair do's but when Blair was taken out in mid air it just had to be a Penalty.
I fear DF has shot us in the foot (no pun intended) because they now have a downer on us OR they are afraid to give us owt in case the Oppo Manager thinks they are favouring us to compensate for the past injustices !
Shoot em all
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I thought that they were all penalties at the time and unless I see something to convince me otherwise on the highlights I stand by that.
I made it 5 clear shouts for Penalties - by that I mean 2/3 rds of the Fans "going up". I am also in the West and I thought 2 maybe not 2 almost certain and 1 undecided
In the first half the "Ref" gave them a foul when one of our defenders eased one of them off the ball from a Corner - ok fair do's but when Blair was taken out in mid air it just had to be a Penalty.
I fear DF has shot us in the foot (no pun intended) because they now have a downer on us OR they are afraid to give us owt in case the Oppo Manager thinks they are favouring us to compensate for the past injustices !
Shoot em all
being 'eased' off the ball for those two instances for me are not fouls but, he gave a foul for them in their first half so, like you say, should have given the second one. No consistency.
I didn't get a clear view of the Marquis incident in the first half but I was directly behind Mandeville's run and for me it looked as though he deliberately planted his left foot towards the defender to make it look like contact. I'd like to see them again.
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Both the Marquis and Mandeville shouts were for taking out the standing foot, both were penalties after contact.
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Oh, and if easing off the ball is not shoulder to shoulder it is pushing, therefore a direct free kick, or if in the area a penalty. It does not in the laws of the game, say a little push, or a big push.
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It's weird in the penalty area. There seems to be a reluctance to punish fouls in the box that refs wouldn't think twice about doling out a free kick for elsewhere on the park. It really shouldn't be that way.
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I didn't have a good view of the Marquis one in the first half. However I thought the one on Mandeville was a definite penalty. I don't think the useless referee was ever going to give us one whatever happened.
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Just seen the Marquis one on the highlights and he clearly is fouled as he goes to get his shot away.
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Mandeville was a definite penalty.
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I've not watched yet but if these incidents are has as been said I hope Fergie takes this additional evidence to his Kangaroo court as well as the others to show the numpty's how poor things are at the end of the day these people are costing managers their jobs and clubs millions by utter incompetence or bias it needs sorting
It won't be overnight but Keith Hackett was saying the other night an ex footballer got his ref qualifications there was numerous reports as to how good he was especially as he knew all the tricks the players were up to but the the FA insisted he started at the bottom in park football there was no system of fasttracking he had to do his time.
These idiots at the FA and refs association need sorting out its no longer a jobs for the boys club its a multi million pound industry even at league 1 and 2 level
Put all the tools at their disposal and sort VAR out like other sports as instantaneous as possible
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After reading this thread I've got just one question.
Who the f**k is Willo?
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After reading this thread I've got just one question.
Who the f**k is Willo?
You don't know who Willo is?!
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None of them penalties for me (west stand) and the first goal wasn't bad defending but awful goalkeeping. It was Lawlors ball all day long but he didn't give a call or come with any conviction for it.
The miss by Marquis in the first half was laughable
He was clearly fouled
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After reading this thread I've got just one question.
Who the f**k is Willo?
You don't know who Willo is?!
Willo is William's? our injured striker.
He is sharing the commentary on Ifollow and he gives the insight of a current professional player, very interesting. He called for at least 2 penalties and criticised our players for not making more of the fouls by Bristol Rovers players particularly Harrison. Had our players highlighted the 7 fouls by Harrison in the first half, Harrison would have got his first yellow in the first half then he would have either changed his game or sent off with a second yellow in the second half. Then he would not have scored the third goal in the second half. BRovers were getting in to the refs ear whenever our boys and particularly Marquis got stuck in and we should have been doing the same thing.
My conclusion is that we are too easily bullied and need to wise up when it comes to pressurising the officials because it worked for BRovers in this game.
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I was seething that he got away with fouling & diving in the first half and was spoken to by the "Ref" once or twice as well and should have been on a Yellow much much f*****g earlier than he was
BUT as usual the Officials were very selective in what they saw. He impeded Lawlor twice in the same attempted clearance and the East Stand Lino SHOULD ffs Flag for that offence
After shamelessly clogging Alcock he then had handbags and again the Muppet Lino was looking right at it and did nowt
AND can anyone tell me why they were so pedantic on where we took Free Kicks from because in tht case Alcock was laid in their half in the Centre Circle for a few minutes and yet when we eventually took the kick they forced us back and back into our half
Unbelievable Jeff
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None of them penalties for me (west stand) and the first goal wasn't bad defending but awful goalkeeping. It was Lawlors ball all day long but he didn't give a call or come with any conviction for it.
The miss by Marquis in the first half was laughable
He was clearly fouled
Looked like he was claiming Hand Ball ? His first touch made it a very easy looking chance and I was sure it was going in but as you say he must have been fouled to miss how he did
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According to the Sun on Sunday we were denied 4 penalties yesterday and they even put the four in bold type
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Dagenham Rover, , I wouldn’t believe the date printed on that paper.
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Dagenham Rover, , I wouldn’t believe the date printed on that paper.
:) I wont dispute that I wass down the hospital and picked it up to read the report found it interesting that they were also trying to highlight things Fergies actually got a lot of support from ths media and such but the Ivory Towers will still find him guilty. The charge of fetching the game into disrepute ought to have been brought against the referees concerned
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Dagenham Rover, , I wouldn’t believe the date printed on that paper.
:) I wont dispute that I wass down the hospital and picked it up to read the report found it interesting that they were also trying to highlight things Fergies actually got a lot of support from ths media and such but the Ivory Towers will still find him guilty. The charge of fetching the game into disrepute ought to have been brought against the referees concerned
Or the FA themselves. Their incompetence at running the game is embarrassing.