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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: wilts rover on February 01, 2018, 10:06:14 pm
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Whatever you think of the project it's good to read something positive about the town:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/transformation/kylie-noble/we-re-movement-not-just-magazine
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Think they should have checked their facts first specifically the number of mines in Doncaster
Good read and pleased to read our status is improving
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Yes 3 is a bit of a low figure
I will say Hatfield Main - Armthorpe - Edlington - Bullcroft - Askern - Rossington - Bentley - Cadeby - Barnburgh - Brodsworth and maybe Denaby ? just for openers
Over to the rest of you for Mines IN the DMBC area
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Think Barnburgh was in S Yorks area of British Coal
Could add Hickleton, Thorne ?, think Denaby has been gone a while
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Moorends is definitely missing from your list yes. Stainforth obviously - or is that classed as Hatfield?
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Yes Hatfield Main was at Stainforth
I should have put (Stainy) in brackets and put Markham (Armthorpe) Yorkshire Main (Edlo) etc to be consistent.
I left out Thorne as it was realistically finished in 1956 despite them spending Millions on new Pit Heads etc only for it never to reopen
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That list is complete as far as i remember from my time at the coal board. Maltby was just Rotherham despite being only a couple of miles t'otherside of Tickhill.
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DW agree with bit about Thorne, however I know when I started in 81 some of lads who started at same time had their own pit classed as Thorne (even though they never went there)
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Cadeby closed in 1966. Har worth 2006.
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Have any of you ever come across Doncopolitan magazine?
If so, what do you think of it?
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Have any of you ever come across Doncopolitan magazine?
If so, what do you think of it?
Yes. You gave me a copy! ;)
It looked like the kind of magazine that Doncaster should have had years ago.
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Have any of you ever come across Doncopolitan magazine?
If so, what do you think of it?
I love it. It's often hit and miss but that's because it covers such a wide range that sometimes there's nothing in there that interests me (last month's was a great example of that). In terms of getting the voice out there that Doncaster has a hub of culture, it knocks the socks off what the council achieve.
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Genuinely never heard of it until this and haven't ever seen it.
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Think you are wrong with Cadeby this closed after the strike
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Yes just looked at what the article actually says now - and it says during the Strike it (Doncaster) was home to 3 of the 55 Collieries in Yorkshire
This is the list I have found and will check it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_collieries_in_Yorkshire_(1984%E2%80%932015)
So Roversdude was right in that the article said there were 3 Doncaster (area) Mines and in fact when the Strike started there were 9 (using that list)
Askern
Barnburgh
Bentley
Brodsworth
Cadeby & Denaby
Hatfield Main (Stainy)
Markham Main (Armthorpe)
Rossington
Yorkshire Main (Edlo)
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I subscribe to Doncopolitan. I know it's free if you pick a copy up around town but for £15 a year I get it posted out so never miss an issue and more importantly, support a very worthwhile piece of our town's cultural development.
As Wes said, sometimes there's not a lot in there for me but other times it's full of relevant and interesting content.
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Harworth?
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Just in Nottinghamshire area !
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https://www.nmrs.org.uk/mines-map/coal-mining-in-the-british-isles/yorkshire-coalfield/doncaster/
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In today's free press a major film production company wants the High Melton College site which after £45 million investment will fill a missing link in the current U.K. Film Industry.4/600 jobs on site. And lots more in the area.
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Sounds exciting Sproty and much better than original plan
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It's been 'sold in principle' for a while to that company now, just waiting for Is to be dotted and Ts crossed.
It will always have to be an education provider though due to a covenant or something like that, I'm told. The film company are going to be using it to provide apprenticeships.
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Cheers RedJ great update
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Have any of you ever come across Doncopolitan magazine?
If so, what do you think of it?
I picked up a couple of early editions, liked it and - as others have said - thought it was the sort of thing that Doncaster really needed. I started subscribing, but was disappointed that the magazine seemed to include more and more adverts with each edition meaning there wasn't as much to read, so I let my subscription run out and haven't bothered renewing.
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Cadeby closed in 1966. Har worth 2006.
Idler. Cadeby closed in 1986 after the strike. I grew up straight over the road from Cadeby pit. It closed while I was at University in November 86. I came back home that Xmas and couldn't sleep because it was so quiet. I'd grown up being used to the sounds of wagons being shunted and klaxons going off and blokes shouting all night.
Denaby Main pit closed about 1966 or 67.
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Cheers BST, I maybe got Cadeby and Denaby mixed up.👍
We were contracting in the North East in 1984 and sometimes used to see convoys of police vans and land rovers coming south on the A1 earlyish in a morning. Sad times.
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Wonder if they did only contain police personnel?
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Wonder if they did only contain police personnel?
Whoever they were, they never wore any id numbers
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Wonder if they did only contain police personnel?
Whoever they were, they never wore any id numbers
I really can't believe how people still believe these silly urban myths.
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Wonder if they did only contain police personnel?
Whoever they were, they never wore any id numbers
I really can't believe how people still believe these silly urban myths.
Not an urban myth, I saw it with my own eyes in Stainforth, theres plenty of pictures online showing coppers without id numbers. I worked with an ex copper based at Thorne, he confirmed that a good proportin of "Policemen" brought from out of area did not wear id numbers
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Filo I'm not on about that I'm referring to the myth about sqaddies being used in Police uniforms
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Filo I'm not on about that I'm referring to the myth about sqaddies being used in Police uniforms
Did I mention squaddies?
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It would be easy to dispel these urban myths by releasing records, can’t understand what is so secret that these are not available
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... well being ever the sceptic it suggests there maybe is something to hide - perhaps the urban myth may be true after all ?
Personally I have no idea whether the swelled Police ranks at the time were augmented by Soldiers / hired hands / or by paying vast Overtime sums to Police from elsewhere in the country but someone will know and that may be the reason . Genuinely their may be no skeletons in that cupboard but as you say why not say so
Have the Papers reached and passed their release date - and are there different times that apply - I dont know that either !
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Time has been and gone DW but government refused to release until 2066 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/27/amber-rudd-review-secret-police-files-on-1980s-miners-strike-yvette-cooper-orgreave
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I met a lad on holiday in Tunisia in 1990. He was a police motorcycle sergeant then. He had been on the picket lines when a PC with the Met.
He said he felt sorry for the miners but some of the Met lads had taken the mickey and waved pay slips to wind miners up. He was glad to go back, if I remember right he got thumped a couple of times but could understand the miners frustration. They were put up in a school whilst here I think. When they finally left their buses were stopped on the motorway and not allowed to go until a PC on one of the buses gave back a TV that he had decided to take with him.
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Time has been and gone DW but government refused to release until 2066 https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/apr/27/amber-rudd-review-secret-police-files-on-1980s-miners-strike-yvette-cooper-orgreave
Which all suggests there is something to hide, so the keep them secret until eveyone involved at the time is dead
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Think a lot were billeted at Bawtry
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Sqaddies in Police uniforms! Not one single member of the armed forces from that time has ever come forwards And claimed they were used in such a way, not one.
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Sqaddies in Police uniforms! Not one single member of the armed forces from that time has ever come forwards And claimed they were used in such a way, not one.
Official secrets act?
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Something hidden though Sproty
There were an awful lot of police uniforms with no numbers on, if there is nothing to hide release the records
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Unfortunately we have a lot of our ex service men in the Prison system and in mental health treatment I doubt very much that they would give 2 hoots about whistleblowing on something that happened 30 years ago, and let's just look a recent events if one came forwards others would and do you really believe we would be prosecuting them under the official Secrets Act?
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Wonder if they did only contain police personnel?
Whoever they were, they never wore any id numbers
I really can't believe how people still believe these silly urban myths.
You're way off beam with that one Sprotty. And further, some of the ones who did have numbers were wearing 'false' numbers - I can confirm that from personal experience when, after being nearly run off the road by one of the police 'battle wagons' I went to Bently police station to lodge a formal complaint against the driver and one officer who refused to give me his name and simply stuck his shoulder number under my face. When I made the complaint the seargeant who investigated advised me that there was no police officer with such a number, neither were there any records of the registration numbers of the 'battle wagon' or the police car also involved.
Oh, and I was simply going about my business and had nothing to do with the miners or the strike. Wrong place, wrong time, disgraceful policing.