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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: the vicar on February 10, 2018, 07:19:05 pm
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Terrible goal it took ages for the ball to get to the goal and he should of got to it a keeper should never give away a goal at the short side
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He still managed to pull off a couple of good saves that kept us in the game.
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Lawlor is a fine keeper, no doubt.
I also think he could have been better positioned though to keep the header out.
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Yes he is a good keeper but he has 1 or 2 blunders available in most games
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I think he has the potential to be a good keeper but I think at the moment he is bang average.... yes he does pull of some good saves ( most keepers do ) but he also lets in lots of soft goals including todays. There is no way he should be conceding goals like that.
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Today's goal wasn't down to Lawlor. I still think he will be sold in the close season, to a Championship club to be a second keeper . That's why Marosi and Jones signed contracts
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Then who's was it who was in goal who lost the ball on the short side from a header so far out to the side and should of collected it
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Can see why he's blamed but Anderson lost his man and then was in Lawlor's line of sight when the guy headed it downwards.
Could have done better but the guy should never have had the free header in the first place.
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Can see why he's blamed but Anderson lost his man and then was in Lawlor's line of sight when the guy headed it downwards.
Could have done better but the guy should never have had the free header in the first place.
Anderson could have done better and his reaction showed so when he held his head after the header went in.
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Yes I know that hound but Lawler should of stopped it
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Just seen the highlights. He’s got to save that.
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Can see why he's blamed but Anderson lost his man and then was in Lawlor's line of sight when the guy headed it downwards.
Could have done better but the guy should never have had the free header in the first place.
Lawlor seems to let quite a lot of headers from close range in.
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Yes he does but that was not quite close range lol
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Yes I know that hound but Lawler should of stopped it
I reckon so too vicar, I have already said as much.
He should have been better positioned at the far post.
It is an easy game from the stands though.
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Just seen the highlights. He’s got to save that.
I agree, poor getting beat at your near post, it was n't like it was point blank range either
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He lets far too many in from long range as well that he should be saving. But like i said earlier he has potential to be a good keeper but right now he's not in my opinion
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He still managed to pull off a couple of good saves that kept us in the game.
one good save today the 1st one was straight at him,yes he has saved us a few times with great saves but thought he was at fault today and partly to blame for both goals last week
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He lets far too many in from long range as well that he should be saving. But like i said earlier he has potential to be a good keeper but right now he's not in my opinion
Only eight teams have conceded less than us though and six of them are in the top seven.
Considering how so many people are saying how bad our defenders are some credit should surely be going to Lawlor.
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He lets far too many in from long range as well that he should be saving. But like i said earlier he has potential to be a good keeper but right now he's not in my opinion
He is a good keeper but I agree that he's got a lot more potential.
Although it's all relative. If he was better he wouldn't be here. Whatever keeper we get will either be young and raw and prone to the odd inexperienced mistake before heading up the leagues (lawlor) or a football league journeyman keeper who just isn't any better than this level.
Let's be honest, we were spoiled to have a keeper like Sullivan for so long. But even he had the odd clanger in him!
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If he'd have stayed upright, he would have gathered it easily.
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Wasn't a strong header and I certainly don't disagree that he might have done better, however in Lawlors defence it can't be easy when the ball is travelling through so many bodies in the box.
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Best we have had with his feet, not massively impressive with his hands. Fairly solid average keeper but decent sweeper.
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Lawlor must be Fergies love child, he won't have a bad word said against him
It's not so long a go that Morosi was hung out to dry By DF for dropping a few clangers.
Morosi deserves his chance now and should be given it on Tuesday.
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I literally don't get some of our fans and what they see at times. Lawlor is for me easily the best permanent keeper we've had since Sullivan. It isn't even close, he's better than Marosi (and I really do like Marko). He makes errors but he's young and actually pretty inexperienced for a pro keeper yet he has an excellent kick on him, is a superb shot stopper and his distribution is actually very good. Fergie is the first manager we've had that insists on constant short distribution from the keeper so of course it is going to be noticeable when it goes wrong more. Lawlor will be a Championship calibre goalkeeper within a few years and will spend the majority of his career at that level in my view. I just hope it's with us.
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He is at best an average league 1 keeper. No better nor worse than other goalkeepers in this league.
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Our recent unbeaten away record is mainly down to him
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easy to jump on Lawlors back, take the positives he kept us in it today.
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I would say he is our Number 1 at the moment - and as with most Keepers their mistakes are more noticeable and often lead to Goals
However he will continue to improve and will be aiming much higher than the Third tier and I reckon he will get there. Credit for the assist in stopping what looked like a certain goal before the Anderson block !
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I literally don't get some of our fans and what they see at times. Lawlor is for me easily the best permanent keeper we've had since Sullivan. It isn't even close, he's better than Marosi (and I really do like Marko). He makes errors but he's young and actually pretty inexperienced for a pro keeper yet he has an excellent kick on him, is a superb shot stopper and his distribution is actually very good. Fergie is the first manager we've had that insists on constant short distribution from the keeper so of course it is going to be noticeable when it goes wrong more. Lawlor will be a Championship calibre goalkeeper within a few years and will spend the majority of his career at that level in my view. I just hope it's with us.
Of all his mistakes this season, how many have been because he’s been trying to distribute it short? I like Lawlor, think he has plenty of potnential, but if you think about it he has probably averaged gifting a goal to the opposition every 2/3 games this season - at what point do you draw the line?
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Our recent unbeaten away record is mainly down to him
I know you will disagree but how many goals has he given away at home where we havent won this year?
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Lawlor is just one man in what should be a five man defence. I don't see why he alone should carry the can for goals conceded.
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You might make the point that when it comes to goals from corners, the goalkeeper has a more responsible role than when in open play. He clearly is not particularly strong in such situations.
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I wish we would leave a man on the far post for corners and some set pieces. I’m sure this would help us.
However, this end of the pitch is the very least of our worries. It’s only cos mistakes at this end cost goals. Mistakes at the business end tend to get overlooked and forgotten.
It’s the other end where we are totally toothless. Our inability to even threaten Charlton until the goal yesterday was rather alarming. And this has been a bit of a worrying trend throughout the season.
Marquis has been out of form for a chunk of it.
We have triers like May and Beestin but if you’re honest are they realistically the long term answer?
Then there’s the way the team is set up which certainly handicaps us. I’m not tactical expert but it just don’t work. The gap between our attackers and midfield yesterday was massive at times leaving a huge gap in the middle. And with the slow and ponderous way we play is inexcusable.
It’s not as if our play is down the flanks either.
The goal we scored against Bristol Rovers was perfect wing play by Blair, which is where he should always be, and provided the easiest goal you will see.
We never tried it again!!!! We kept coming inside.
Must do better and take the shackles off please.
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We play so f**king slowly and predictably that it's almost impossible for the strikers to get much chance of scoring as by the time the ball is with them they've been crowded out because the pass was seen about 5 minutes before it reaches them it's that obvious what they're going to do in the build up. It's all so ponderous.
None of this fast attacking football where we could tear a defence apart seemingly at will from last year - yes I know it's a tougher division but the style of play is totally different. It's been effective in stopping leaking as many goals but that's about it.
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Wasn't a strong header and I certainly don't disagree that he might have done better, however in Lawlors defence it can't be easy when the ball is travelling through so many bodies in the box.
I was right behind the line of the header, there were no bodies in between the header and Lawlor, he had a clear sight of it but went down on his arse expecting it to bounce right at his feet.
I'm sorry but to everybody saying he's a good keeper and the best since Sully, I haven't seen ANY of our keepers since Sully making so many basic errors which led to goals. Time Marosi was given his chance, if for no other reason than Lawlor needs to understand he has to get his act together.
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Absolutely right that there was no one between the CB and the keeper.
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Lawlor leaves me scratching my head at times with some of the goals he lets in, but then he also makes top class saves that no other keeper at the club would get near. That gives me hope that he will improve and iron out the silly errors and soft goals, and then we'll have a real player on our hands.
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Most keepers don’t peak until their mid to late twenties.
Lawlor still has time on his side.
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I literally don't get some of our fans and what they see at times. Lawlor is for me easily the best permanent keeper we've had since Sullivan. It isn't even close, he's better than Marosi (and I really do like Marko). He makes errors but he's young and actually pretty inexperienced for a pro keeper yet he has an excellent kick on him, is a superb shot stopper and his distribution is actually very good. Fergie is the first manager we've had that insists on constant short distribution from the keeper so of course it is going to be noticeable when it goes wrong more. Lawlor will be a Championship calibre goalkeeper within a few years and will spend the majority of his career at that level in my view. I just hope it's with us.
Of all his mistakes this season, how many have been because he’s been trying to distribute it short? I like Lawlor, think he has plenty of potnential, but if you think about it he has probably averaged gifting a goal to the opposition every 2/3 games this season - at what point do you draw the line?
Does anyone else think we should mix it up a bit ? Man City and others like to play from the back (s did SOD) but Charlton knew that and pressed us all game as others have done
So instead should we now and again play it longer and risk losing possession or even more likely the ball not ending on the "green bit between the Stands" and going straight out of play ?
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No because when we do hoof it it still doesn't work...
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Who is there capable of winning, let alone doing anything with a long ball launched forward? We don't have that type of physical target man that many other teams have, nor do we have the runners to support said target man and in my opinion, both are something we need at this level.
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I literally don't get some of our fans and what they see at times. Lawlor is for me easily the best permanent keeper we've had since Sullivan. It isn't even close, he's better than Marosi (and I really do like Marko). He makes errors but he's young and actually pretty inexperienced for a pro keeper yet he has an excellent kick on him, is a superb shot stopper and his distribution is actually very good. Fergie is the first manager we've had that insists on constant short distribution from the keeper so of course it is going to be noticeable when it goes wrong more. Lawlor will be a Championship calibre goalkeeper within a few years and will spend the majority of his career at that level in my view. I just hope it's with us.
Of all his mistakes this season, how many have been because he’s been trying to distribute it short? I like Lawlor, think he has plenty of potnential, but if you think about it he has probably averaged gifting a goal to the opposition every 2/3 games this season - at what point do you draw the line?
Does anyone else think we should mix it up a bit ? Man City and others like to play from the back (s did SOD) but Charlton knew that and pressed us all game as others have done
So instead should we now and again play it longer and risk losing possession or even more likely the ball not ending on the "green bit between the Stands" and going straight out of play ?
Have been thinking the same. Turn defenders a bit more some times. Marquis and Beestin are best with balls into feet but Kiwomya's pace will trouble centre-backs in this league and getting behind more will enable us to play further up the pitch. We're too predictable sometimes.
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I wish we would leave a man on the far post for corners and some set pieces. I’m sure this would help us.
However, this end of the pitch is the very least of our worries. It’s only cos mistakes at this end cost goals. Mistakes at the business end tend to get overlooked and forgotten.
It’s the other end where we are totally toothless. Our inability to even threaten Charlton until the goal yesterday was rather alarming. And this has been a bit of a worrying trend throughout the season.
Marquis has been out of form for a chunk of it.
We have triers like May and Beestin but if you’re honest are they realistically the long term answer?
Then there’s the way the team is set up which certainly handicaps us. I’m not tactical expert but it just don’t work. The gap between our attackers and midfield yesterday was massive at times leaving a huge gap in the middle. And with the slow and ponderous way we play is inexcusable.
It’s not as if our play is down the flanks either.
The goal we scored against Bristol Rovers was perfect wing play by Blair, which is where he should always be, and provided the easiest goal you will see.
We never tried it again!!!! We kept coming inside.
Must do better and take the shackles off please.
Beestin is one our best technical players. He's might not be a striker but he isn't just a "trier".
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Beestin is becoming a very good footballer.
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He should make a good un I agree - just needs to bulk up a bit and his fast feet will do the rest !
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Most keepers don’t peak until their mid to late twenties.
Lawlor still has time on his side.
So, he should be learning his trade in the seconds. Some of his efforts have been pathetic, especially not coming off his line
from corners.
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Most keepers don’t peak until their mid to late twenties.
Lawlor still has time on his side.
So, he should be learning his trade in the seconds. Some of his efforts have been pathetic, especially not coming off his line
from corners.
As I have said before, the staying on the line thing is quite common amongst modern day keepers.
It has to be the coaching.
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Just heard that Lawlor has nine clean sheets this season, equal sixth best.
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Our recent unbeaten away record is mainly down to him
I know you will disagree but how many goals has he given away at home where we havent won this year?
How can I disagree?
Youve asked a question, I've no idea