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Title: Rubbish
Post by: raggytash on February 12, 2018, 02:24:44 pm
Well guys, it’s my first post in ages and deliberately so... after attending the Bristol rovers, Charlton and Shrewsbury games it’s quite clear we’re very poor.

How does df organise his teams? We are set up wrong in nearly every game, no vision, no pace and definitely no attacking motive.

Secondly, the board!! 3 years into a 5 year plan we’re struggling to stay up, attendances are above the budget, and there plan is clearly dead in the water.

This board clearly stated about the dons and rovers progressing.... rovers are static...no improvement whatsoever, the dons in a lower league than when the plan was out....

If the board arnt upto it, lets try and progress otherwise because it’s boring and it’s there for all to see absolutely no ambition, the performances are shite and boring...

My opinion by the way... no digs or pops!
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: silent majority on February 12, 2018, 02:31:07 pm
Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.

Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: chrisd_123 on February 12, 2018, 02:31:48 pm
Well guys, it’s my first post in ages and deliberately so... after attending the Bristol rovers, Charlton and Shrewsbury games it’s quite clear we’re very poor.

How does df organise his teams? We are set up wrong in nearly every game, no vision, no pace and definitely no attacking motive.

Secondly, the board!! 3 years into a 5 year plan we’re struggling to stay up, attendances are above the budget, and there plan is clearly dead in the water.

This board clearly stated about the dons and rovers progressing.... rovers are static...no improvement whatsoever, the dons in a lower league than when the plan was out....

If the board arnt upto it, lets try and progress otherwise because it’s boring and it’s there for all to see absolutely no ambition, the performances are shite and boring...

My opinion by the way... no digs or pops!

I don't understand where this "Struggling to stay up" is coming from.

I don't agree with it but I do understand the argument about progression but "Struggling to stay up"?. We've never once been in the bottom 4 this season and are 6 points above the drop. I'm not saying this definitely won't change but bloody hell, struggling to stay up is a bit much.

Is this the same board who have just paid a relatively large amount to sign Ben Whiteman and also allowed the extra budget to bring in the defenders we desperately needed? We're never going to have budgets to match Portsmouth etc so I don't get what people are truly expecting?

We haven't been great recently granted but this post is very kneejerk.

Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: tommy toes on February 12, 2018, 03:04:28 pm
It's the 'large amount' to sign the likes of Ben Whiteman that worries me. I'm not sure about Fergie's judgement of players ability or where to play them.
Recent performances have been terrible and we will be in a relegation fight unless things change.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Danmckay456 on February 12, 2018, 03:06:30 pm
Hopefully next season we address the right hand side with a new full back and quick winger a high priority.

A centre back in who can strike a partnership up with another one who we already have , Andrews to fill the left back void to free up tommy Rowe who without doubt can win you games on his own when being given freedom.

We need to break the bank for a striker we just can’t kill teams off and one who will shoot from anywhere
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 12, 2018, 03:14:18 pm
Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.



Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: raggytash on February 12, 2018, 03:15:01 pm
I just hope Ferguson ditches the ideology of finding a ‘ golden nugget’ Beestin is nowhere near ready, may is awful, and the kongolo loan is weird at best...

Fair enough let’s get a young, exciting and attacking side, but it’s far from and it’s absolutely shite most of the time tbf, I can see the idea, but it’s not happening at all.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: DonnyOsmond on February 12, 2018, 03:17:30 pm
I just hope Ferguson ditches the ideology of finding a ‘ golden nugget’ Beestin is nowhere near ready, may is awful, and the kongolo loan is weird at best...

Fair enough let’s get a young, exciting and attacking side, but it’s far from and it’s absolutely shite most of the time tbf, I can see the idea, but it’s not happening at all.

Bring back Chaplow!
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: DonnyOsmond on February 12, 2018, 03:20:45 pm
Its hilarious that we've got 3 years left of this plan and apparently the boards failing. The plan wasn't to get promoted straight away, we build a squad long term, other wise we'll go up and come straight back down. Football has turned so short term.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: donnievic on February 12, 2018, 03:45:08 pm
I just hope Ferguson ditches the ideology of finding a ‘ golden nugget’ Beestin is nowhere near ready, may is awful, and the kongolo loan is weird at best...

Fair enough let’s get a young, exciting and attacking side, but it’s far from and it’s absolutely shite most of the time tbf, I can see the idea, but it’s not happening at all.

Beestin know where near ready????he has probably been our best player over the last 3 month
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 12, 2018, 04:24:42 pm
I just hope Ferguson ditches the ideology of finding a ‘ golden nugget’ Beestin is nowhere near ready, may is awful, and the kongolo loan is weird at best...

Fair enough let’s get a young, exciting and attacking side, but it’s far from and it’s absolutely shite most of the time tbf, I can see the idea, but it’s not happening at all.

Beestin know where near ready????he has probably been our best player over the last 3 month

But he's seen three matches so knows it all.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: steve@dcfd on February 12, 2018, 04:34:15 pm
It's the 'large amount' to sign the likes of Ben Whiteman that worries me. I'm not sure about Fergie's judgement of players ability or where to play them.
Recent performances have been terrible and we will be in a relegation fight unless things change.

It may be considered a large amount by some yet in the terms of League 1 clubs that want promotion the amount is normal. We may have spend that amount on two or three more players if we want to progress in this league. We may have to increase our spending on the academy if we want to consistently bring players through instead of spending on other players.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 12, 2018, 05:07:13 pm
It was a plan to be established in the championship for both teams not just be there, but I think the Dons will be in the championship after this season weather they stay there is another thing but there we are
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: bobjimwilly on February 12, 2018, 05:15:23 pm
Beestin is going to be a great player, and we'll be lucky to keep him in the future I think
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 12, 2018, 05:17:33 pm
Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.



Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Cantley Rover on February 12, 2018, 05:22:34 pm
Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.



Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

I reckon one win in 9 is very consistent too.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 12, 2018, 05:30:29 pm
Exactly a side drawing 7 of their last 8 games or whatever it is cant be called inconsistent
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: since-1969 on February 12, 2018, 05:33:57 pm


If the board arnt upto. it,

My opinion by the way... no digs or pops!
Clearly a dig at the board ?
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 12, 2018, 05:37:45 pm
People can dig at who they want if that is what they believe.  They are doing ok but they are not as heavenly as some on here think they are but they are doing ok nothing outstanding though
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: steve@dcfd on February 12, 2018, 06:23:01 pm
Beestin is going to be a great player, and we'll be lucky to keep him in the future I think

Sorry don’t know as yet how you can believe he is going to be great. As a lot to prove yet he must continue to progress.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 12, 2018, 06:45:41 pm
Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.



Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have yet to be in the top 8. Therefore we are
Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.



Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have not been in the top 8. We are therefore struggling to live up to this standard.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: steve@dcfd on February 12, 2018, 06:59:13 pm
Where as this top 8 budget come from?
Checking the figures of two years ago we had a budget around mid table.
As it improved this time round?
Looking at the budget for league 1 2016/2017 teams that got promoted had over twice the 4m budget we had, in fact Sheff United had a 11m budget.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 12, 2018, 07:45:50 pm
Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.



Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have yet to be in the top 8. Therefore we are
Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.



Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have not been in the top 8. We are therefore struggling to live up to this standard.

Top 8 budget?

Even if we did have this, you think the budget is the only bearing on a league position?
Look at bury, look at Shrewsbury
That tells you everything.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: POD on February 12, 2018, 08:09:03 pm
It was a plan to be established in the championship for both teams not just be there, but I think the Dons will be in the championship after this season weather they stay there is another thing but there we are
It would be nice to think that we could be an established Championship team, but realistically a club like Rovers with modest support and little potential beyond that will be a decent League One team at best, with occasional flirtations at the Championship. 
To be an established Championship side, Rovers would need crowds to be at ground capacity every match or alternatively a rich benefactor (like Bournemouth). 
Personally, as long as we are competing and I am being entertained each time I go to the match, I am not really bothered which league we are playing in. 
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 12, 2018, 08:24:55 pm
Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.



Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have yet to be in the top 8. Therefore we are
Well its the 2nd year of a 5 year plan. That being said we have had a major hiccup this season with the passing of Dick Watson, that cannot be ignored as he was a passionate and dedicated owner and fan of DRFC. It'll take a while for a major disruption like that to pass and the situation to revert to normal. I think the time for criticising the board isn't right now, and certainly not after they went the extra mile 3 times in recent months.



Agree with this. The Board is providing a more than adequate budget for this league and providing stability and support. It is down to the manager and his players to live up to this standard. At present they are struggling to do so on a consistent basis.

I reckon one defeat in 11 is very consistent

We have a top 8 budget. We have not been in the top 8. We are therefore struggling to live up to this standard.

Top 8 budget?

Even if we did have this, you think the budget is the only bearing on a league position?
Look at bury, look at Shrewsbury
That tells you everything.


If you are of the opinion that the clubs with the largest budgets do not tend to dominate the leagues in which they play, then keep chugging on the bong brother. It is consistently the major determinant of success.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 12, 2018, 08:30:10 pm
Didn't suggest that did I? Your suggesting it's the only reason teams do well and because we have a top 8 budget then automatically that's where we should be

Which is nonsense
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 12, 2018, 09:08:36 pm
Good luck with your theory that budget has no impact on outcome. There used to be guy outside Arndale with sandwich board supporting theory of Flat Earth. Suspect he has probably passed away but both his sandwich board and standing spot are free, so maybe that could be of help?
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 12, 2018, 09:32:06 pm
You're good at always changing your arguement I'll give you that.
Nowhere did I say it has no impact chap
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: silent majority on February 12, 2018, 09:36:53 pm
It was a plan to be established in the championship for both teams not just be there, but I think the Dons will be in the championship after this season weather they stay there is another thing but there we are
It would be nice to think that we could be an established Championship team, but realistically a club like Rovers with modest support and little potential beyond that will be a decent League One team at best, with occasional flirtations at the Championship. 
To be an established Championship side, Rovers would need crowds to be at ground capacity every match or alternatively a rich benefactor (like Bournemouth). 
Personally, as long as we are competing and I am being entertained each time I go to the match, I am not really bothered which league we are playing in. 

Not necessarily. The solidarity payments and TV income is disproportionate when you're in the Championship. That goes quite along way to offsetting the lack of income from other sources.

But like you, so long as I have a team to support it doesn't always matter what division we're in, but it's always a better afternoon if the stadium is fullish and the performances are OK.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: raggytash on February 12, 2018, 09:48:52 pm
I’m not having a go, I’m saying everything is done on the cheap, we need established quality which isn’t cheap but without a bit of investment we’re going to be watching crap till god knows when.

Why on earth play Rowe at left back is a joke? I think it’s fair to say we’re 4 or 5 good players short.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: silent majority on February 12, 2018, 09:53:07 pm
I’m not having a go, I’m saying everything is done on the cheap, we need established quality which isn’t cheap but without a bit of investment we’re going to be watching crap till god knows when.

Why on earth play Rowe at left back is a joke? I think it’s fair to say we’re 4 or 5 good players short.

When you say 'everything is done on the cheap' what do you mean by that?

Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: PDX_Rover on February 12, 2018, 10:38:13 pm
I’ve be end watching Beestin the last few games. He’s a very exciting prospect imo. Inventive, good movement, shields the ball well and holds it up to bring others into play. Always wants the ball. And he has goals in him too. I think he potentially is a very, very good player in the making. Seems to be well-grounded too.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Campsall rover on February 12, 2018, 10:52:50 pm
Well guys, it’s my first post in ages and deliberately so... after attending the Bristol rovers, Charlton and Shrewsbury games it’s quite clear we’re very poor.

How does df organise his teams? We are set up wrong in nearly every game, no vision, no pace and definitely no attacking motive.

Secondly, the board!! 3 years into a 5 year plan we’re struggling to stay up, attendances are above the budget, and there plan is clearly dead in the water.

This board clearly stated about the dons and rovers progressing.... rovers are static...no improvement whatsoever, the dons in a lower league than when the plan was out....

If the board arnt upto it, lets try and progress otherwise because it’s boring and it’s there for all to see absolutely no ambition, the performances are shite and boring...

My opinion by the way... no digs or pops!
Well that’s what I call a negative post. Be careful what you wish for. Most clubs would love to have owners like ours. If you think they have no ambition why do you think they are bothering to be involved with the club at all. They have forked out several million pounds on this club. Do you think they are doing that just for the hell of it?
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: roversdude on February 13, 2018, 07:17:02 am
Think you’ve been waiting for a run of defeats to start spouting negativity, unfortunately we are holding our own without playing well so decided to be a WUM
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 08:11:27 am
Correct
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Cantley Rover on February 13, 2018, 10:00:47 am
Think you’ve been waiting for a run of defeats to start spouting negativity, unfortunately we are holding our own without playing well so decided to be a WUM

Having won only once in the last 9 games you think we are holding our own? I can see why some non ultra positive fans might be a little negative. Maybe they have good memories and can't see where a win is going to come from? We have been here before remember.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 10:04:23 am
If 1 defeat in 11 or 9 or however you want to portray isn't holding your own then what is.
Are we lower in the table than we were 11 or 9 games ago? Closer to relegation zone?
No
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: idler on February 13, 2018, 10:15:52 am
Dickos, looking behind at the chasing pack is only like looking at the sky to decide whether or not to take an umbrella out when it is cloudy.
We are in a decentish position but after two collapses at the back end of recent seasons surely you can understand our fans concern. I don't think that we will go down but then I again I didn't expect our last two relegations either.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: raggytash on February 13, 2018, 10:55:30 am
I’m not being negative at all, what I’m saying is we’re playing awful almost week in week out and somehow nicking a point.... it’s terrible to watch and there’s no style or substance to our play whatsoever.

Nearly ever goal we concede is a set piece... what are they doing about it in training??? If things like this can’t be sorted after 3 quarters of a season surely the coaching staff needs looking at.... were well on with being the lowest scorers too... what does that suggest?? Our strikers are not good enough or the supply to them isn’t?
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 11:09:18 am
Dickos, looking behind at the chasing pack is only like looking at the sky to decide whether or not to take an umbrella out when it is cloudy.
We are in a decentish position but after two collapses at the back end of recent seasons surely you can understand our fans concern. I don't think that we will go down but then I again I didn't expect our last two relegations either.

I wouldn't call last season a collapse, and the year before we were already losing games by now and had less points on the board.

I agree we shouldn't ignore below but nobody at all is mentioning above and we're much closer to the top 10/11 than we are the bottom 4
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: RoversAlias on February 13, 2018, 11:43:49 am
Think you’ve been waiting for a run of defeats to start spouting negativity, unfortunately we are holding our own without playing well so decided to be a WUM

Having won only once in the last 9 games you think we are holding our own? I can see why some non ultra positive fans might be a little negative. Maybe they have good memories and can't see where a win is going to come from? We have been here before remember.

Of course we're holding our own, not getting beat and getting creditable draws away to top sides like Shrewsbury, Scunthorpe and Portsmouth.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 13, 2018, 11:48:04 am
I’m not being negative at all

Are you saying you're being positive but nobody's noticed?
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Pancho Regan on February 13, 2018, 12:53:44 pm
Of course he's not being negative.

Didn't you see the title of the thread.....?

 ;)
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 12:57:35 pm
To be fair I think Most of the people negative on here even convince themselves that they aren't being negative
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 01:33:33 pm
Well guys, it’s my first post in ages and deliberately so... after attending the Bristol rovers, Charlton and Shrewsbury games it’s quite clear we’re very poor.

How does df organise his teams? We are set up wrong in nearly every game, no vision, no pace and definitely no attacking motive.

Secondly, the board!! 3 years into a 5 year plan we’re struggling to stay up, attendances are above the budget, and there plan is clearly dead in the water.

This board clearly stated about the dons and rovers progressing.... rovers are static...no improvement whatsoever, the dons in a lower league than when the plan was out....

If the board arnt upto it, lets try and progress otherwise because it’s boring and it’s there for all to see absolutely no ambition, the performances are shite and boring...

My opinion by the way... no digs or pops!
Well that’s what I call a negative post. Be careful what you wish for. Most clubs would love to have owners like ours. If you think they have no ambition why do you think they are bothering to be involved with the club at all. They have forked out several million pounds on this club. Do you think they are doing that just for the hell of it?

not everything has to be positive people that tell the truth just tell the truth weather negative or positive and don't do what the others do and pull the wool over others eyes
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Filo on February 13, 2018, 01:38:23 pm
Whats Golf got to do with owt?
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Cantley Rover on February 13, 2018, 01:47:17 pm
Dickos, looking behind at the chasing pack is only like looking at the sky to decide whether or not to take an umbrella out when it is cloudy.
We are in a decentish position but after two collapses at the back end of recent seasons surely you can understand our fans concern. I don't think that we will go down but then I again I didn't expect our last two relegations either.

I wouldn't call last season a collapse, and the year before we were already losing games by now and had less points on the board.

I agree we shouldn't ignore below but nobody at all is mentioning above and we're much closer to the top 10/11 than we are the bottom 4

So from being red hot favourites to end up as champions to finishing third last season wans't a collapse? It was a good job we didn't have many more games to play otherwise we would have been in the play offs.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 01:49:57 pm
The whole reason it happened was because the players thought it was job done after winning promotion with 5 games to go.
The year before the collapse was mid season not the end as we actually won 2 of our last few games.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Cantley Rover on February 13, 2018, 01:54:16 pm
The whole reason it happened was because the players thought it was job done after winning promotion with 5 games to go.
The year before the collapse was mid season not the end as we actually won 2 of our last few games.

Yes you are correct that the players thought it was job done. Once we had guaranteed promotion they thought they were on holiday. Unfortunately we as fans wanted to see Rovers promoted as champions. Do we not matter?
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: IDM on February 13, 2018, 01:59:16 pm
The other point about the last few games was that all our opponents had something to play for, ie confirming the play offs or avoiding relegation.

Shouldn't have stopped us winning one, but it's in the past now.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Bentley Bullet on February 13, 2018, 02:01:53 pm
The whole reason it happened was because the players thought it was job done after winning promotion with 5 games to go.
The year before the collapse was mid season not the end as we actually won 2 of our last few games.

Let's hope the players have learnt their lesson and don't take safety for granted this season, like some of our fans seem to be doing!
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 13, 2018, 02:02:02 pm
The whole reason it happened was because the players thought it was job done after winning promotion with 5 games to go.
The year before the collapse was mid season not the end as we actually won 2 of our last few games.

Yes you are correct that the players thought it was job done. Once we had guaranteed promotion they thought they were on holiday. Unfortunately we as fans wanted to see Rovers promoted as champions. Do we not matter?

Not just fans. The manager set a clear, publicly stated goal of winning the title. From that point on the team lost every single game.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 02:03:12 pm
If everyone came on here to just kiss each other's arses and blow smoke up eath other then why is there need for a forum
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 02:06:06 pm
Whats Golf got to do with owt?
read it again mate
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 02:15:54 pm
The whole reason it happened was because the players thought it was job done after winning promotion with 5 games to go.
The year before the collapse was mid season not the end as we actually won 2 of our last few games.

Yes you are correct that the players thought it was job done. Once we had guaranteed promotion they thought they were on holiday. Unfortunately we as fans wanted to see Rovers promoted as champions. Do we not matter?

You're changing your arguement which seems to be a common theme on here.
You said if the season had continued any longer then we wouldn't have got promoted but now you're agreeing it only happened because the players had already won promotion
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 02:16:23 pm
The whole reason it happened was because the players thought it was job done after winning promotion with 5 games to go.
The year before the collapse was mid season not the end as we actually won 2 of our last few games.

Yes you are correct that the players thought it was job done. Once we had guaranteed promotion they thought they were on holiday. Unfortunately we as fans wanted to see Rovers promoted as champions. Do we not matter?

Not just fans. The manager set a clear, publicly stated goal of winning the title. From that point on the team lost every single game.

Well no they actually drew the next game
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Filo on February 13, 2018, 02:19:42 pm
Whats Golf got to do with owt?
read it again mate

You little tinker you've changed it, that'll learn me to make sure I quote it next time 😀😀😀😀
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 13, 2018, 02:20:11 pm
If everyone came on here to just kiss each other's arses and blow smoke up eath other then why is there need for a forum

Does that mean you only use it to wind people up?

I presume that when you post something from now on you'd want everybody to completely disagree with you otherwise it's a waste of a forum! :lol:
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 02:26:56 pm
Whats Golf got to do with owt?
read it again mate

You little tinker you've changed it, that'll learn me to make sure I quote it next time 😀😀😀😀
lol predictive text mate
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 02:34:24 pm
If everyone came on here to just kiss each other's arses and blow smoke up eath other then why is there need for a forum

Does that mean you only use it to wind people up?

I presume that when you post something from now on you'd want everybody to completely disagree with you otherwise it's a waste of a forum! :lol:
you really don't understand the concept of a forum do you, well a forum is to talk about All things not to just come on here and agree with people like you it is to have a difference of opinion.  I don't want anyone to agree or disagree with me or anyone else just have there own opinions and be truthful as they could be
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 13, 2018, 02:41:07 pm
If everyone came on here to just kiss each other's arses and blow smoke up eath other then why is there need for a forum

Does that mean you only use it to wind people up?

I presume that when you post something from now on you'd want everybody to completely disagree with you otherwise it's a waste of a forum! :lol:
you really don't understand the concept of a forum do you, well a forum is to talk about All things not to just come on here and agree with people like you it is to have a difference of opinion.  I don't want anyone to agree or disagree with me or anyone else just have there own opinions and be truthful as they could be

I agree with that. But that isn't what you said to start with.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 02:44:16 pm
It is exactly what I said and meant, what blowing smoke up each other's arse means is agreeing with the main just cos that is what the others  want us to do well I don't do that cos I am true to myself
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Glyn_Wigley on February 13, 2018, 02:46:08 pm
I disagree!
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 13, 2018, 03:14:50 pm
The whole reason it happened was because the players thought it was job done after winning promotion with 5 games to go.
The year before the collapse was mid season not the end as we actually won 2 of our last few games.

Yes you are correct that the players thought it was job done. Once we had guaranteed promotion they thought they were on holiday. Unfortunately we as fans wanted to see Rovers promoted as champions. Do we not matter?

Not just fans. The manager set a clear, publicly stated goal of winning the title. From that point on the team lost every single game.

Well no they actually drew the next game

If you use a smaller pen, you could probably fit “one point from fifteen is entirely fine” on to your sandwich board as well comrade. Would need to be in fairly thick pen for folk to read it though.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 03:47:44 pm
I disagree!
there you are so you disagree no harm done, it is your opinion as the other is mine 
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: IDM on February 13, 2018, 04:10:33 pm
That's not an argument, that's just a contradiction!
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: roversdude on February 13, 2018, 04:30:02 pm
I’m Spartacus
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 04:34:48 pm
It does not have to be classed as anything realy does it
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: IDM on February 13, 2018, 04:39:34 pm
It was a monty python reference vicar, the “argument” sketch.  Not in your line of humour I guess..
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 04:47:49 pm
Then it falls on deaf ears as I have only seen 15 minutes of a Monty python episode  as it is two idiotic
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: IDM on February 13, 2018, 04:51:14 pm
Oh no it’s not..
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: darren61 on February 13, 2018, 04:59:26 pm
Oh no it’s not..

 Thats a woody phrase.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 05:04:39 pm
It might not you never know lol
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 05:13:42 pm
The whole reason it happened was because the players thought it was job done after winning promotion with 5 games to go.
The year before the collapse was mid season not the end as we actually won 2 of our last few games.

Yes you are correct that the players thought it was job done. Once we had guaranteed promotion they thought they were on holiday. Unfortunately we as fans wanted to see Rovers promoted as champions. Do we not matter?

Not just fans. The manager set a clear, publicly stated goal of winning the title. From that point on the team lost every single game.

Well no they actually drew the next game

If you use a smaller pen, you could probably fit “one point from fifteen is entirely fine” on to your sandwich board as well comrade. Would need to be in fairly thick pen for folk to read it though.

Just a bit of a task picking you up on all your made up facts which you use to try and prove a point.

How's the 1 point per game going on you e been a bit quiet on that recently comrade
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Cantley Rover on February 13, 2018, 05:46:59 pm
Did you enjoy the game on Saturday Dickos? Just wondering what you thought of it.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 06:11:34 pm
If he enjoyed that game he needs certifying as anyone else would I'm affraid
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 06:14:26 pm
Not particularly no, worst we've played all
Season for me!
Why?
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Cantley Rover on February 13, 2018, 06:17:14 pm
Not particularly no, worst we've played all
Season for me!
Why?

Just intrigued to hear your thoughts.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on February 13, 2018, 06:26:36 pm
There’s a lot of talk about us falling into a relegation scrap. Which sort of suggests that we’ve been getting sucked closer to the bottom 4 over this recent winless run.

Except we haven’t. In the first week of Jan, we were 7 points above 4th bottom and had played a match more. Today we’re 6 points above 4th bottom on level matches. Back then, the teams in the bottom 4 had nearly half a season to catch us. We’re 6 matches further on and they’ve made no progress on us.

We’ve just had our hardest run of matches in the whole season. And a defensive injury crisis. And we’re holding our own. The comparisons with 2 years ago are a bit over done if you ask me.
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 06:40:05 pm
There’s a lot of talk about us falling into a relegation scrap. Which sort of suggests that we’ve been getting sucked closer to the bottom 4 over this recent winless run.

Except we haven’t. In the first week of Jan, we were 7 points above 4th bottom and had played a match more. Today we’re 6 points above 4th bottom on level matches. Back then, the teams in the bottom 4 had nearly half a season to catch us. We’re 6 matches further on and they’ve made no progress on us.

We’ve just had our hardest run of matches in the whole season. And a defensive injury crisis. And we’re holding our own. The comparisons with 2 years ago are a bit over done if you ask me.

That's what I've been saying
We're as far away from the relegation zone right now as we have been all season
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Not Now Kato on February 13, 2018, 06:59:47 pm
There’s a lot of talk about us falling into a relegation scrap. Which sort of suggests that we’ve been getting sucked closer to the bottom 4 over this recent winless run.

Except we haven’t. In the first week of Jan, we were 7 points above 4th bottom and had played a match more. Today we’re 6 points above 4th bottom on level matches. Back then, the teams in the bottom 4 had nearly half a season to catch us. We’re 6 matches further on and they’ve made no progress on us.

We’ve just had our hardest run of matches in the whole season. And a defensive injury crisis. And we’re holding our own. The comparisons with 2 years ago are a bit over done if you ask me.

In the first week of January we were in 11th place.  We're now in 15th place.  That's four places nearer the relegation zone however you look at it.
 
Hopefully we'll improve on that this evening. 
Title: Re: Rubbish
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 13, 2018, 07:23:51 pm
The whole reason it happened was because the players thought it was job done after winning promotion with 5 games to go.
The year before the collapse was mid season not the end as we actually won 2 of our last few games.

Yes you are correct that the players thought it was job done. Once we had guaranteed promotion they thought they were on holiday. Unfortunately we as fans wanted to see Rovers promoted as champions. Do we not matter?

Not just fans. The manager set a clear, publicly stated goal of winning the title. From that point on the team lost every single game.

Well no they actually drew the next game

If you use a smaller pen, you could probably fit “one point from fifteen is entirely fine” on to your sandwich board as well comrade. Would need to be in fairly thick pen for folk to read it though.

Just a bit of a task picking you up on all your made up facts which you use to try and prove a point.

How's the 1 point per game going on you e been a bit quiet on that recently comrade

Note it all down on your sandwich board comrafe and stand outside Tut to make sure folk can see it all.