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Title: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: watto-drfc on February 13, 2018, 08:36:52 pm
He's got to go to avoid the drop
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: BerlinRed on February 13, 2018, 08:38:56 pm
He's got to go to avoid the drop

You're probably right. Seems to be the same mistakes each week. Feeling sorry for the fans who're there tonight!
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: drfchound on February 13, 2018, 08:39:45 pm
Waiting for someone to come on and stick up for him.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: StocksArmy on February 13, 2018, 08:41:51 pm
He has to, absolutely has to go. End of story
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: Rich_The_Conisbrough_Rover on February 13, 2018, 08:42:02 pm
Bye 👋🏻

FERGIE OUT.

Relegation battle beckoning.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: BigKeif on February 13, 2018, 08:44:33 pm
I can’t defend him anymore, this is embarrassing and I’ve had enough of these poor performances!

Seriously fearing the worse for the rest of the season as were back in the same position as two years ago.

Think Rotherham fans are right and will give us a good hiding at their place.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: esdailles left foot on February 13, 2018, 08:45:22 pm
Waiting for someone to come on and stick up for him.

Oh they will eh Dickos
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: DRFCMach2man on February 13, 2018, 08:46:37 pm
Can't see a game coming up that I could confidently say we will win. Damage limitation needed second half but can't c us coming back from 3 down. Lose to Fleetwood- which on current showings is more than possible - and we will be in the ZONE which we know Fergie will not be able to get us out of. Hope I am wrong but starting to get a really bad feeling about our run in.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: DD on February 13, 2018, 08:51:27 pm
Absolutely!
Whilst I have some (minor) sympathy (loss of Andrew & recent loss of 3 centre halves) why oh why does he continue to mess around with formations & putting players in unfamiliar positions....especially at the back!!!
So tonight's joke is a back 3 who have (correct me if I'm wrong) 2 appearances between them. For heavens sake fergie - stick to a back 4 - put Garret at left back, Anderson, Boyle at CH & let Mason try to get a bit of form at right back. Try & keep some shape which the players understand.
Relegation scrap awaiting!
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: since-1969 on February 13, 2018, 08:53:17 pm
Not sure where DF goes from here , 3 defenders who in the face of it should be comfortable has NOT improved the side . If it had not been for the injuries to Butts Wrighty and Fenchie we more than likely would have a striker on loan to help Marquis. Three points above the drop and it  looks like the confidence us just draining away . We only play one half of a game and just gift goals nearly every match . Surely current form is down to lack motivation not just poor  preparation.  We’ve never looked like a team that can totally dominate teams , our best has just not been good enough to maintain from game to game .
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: CrippyCooke on February 13, 2018, 08:56:24 pm
I think the players are good enough to keep us up. I'm worried about where we're heading in the long-term under Ferguson but I would wait and see where we are come the end of the season before making a decision on that front.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: pib on February 13, 2018, 08:57:46 pm
It's worrying.

Not saying Ferguson out (and never actually have) but it's hard not to think about what happened two years ago.  After a promising Christmas the gap could be down to 4 points between us and the relegation zone tonight, and in the form we are in and tough games coming up that's a concern.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: drfchound on February 13, 2018, 08:58:46 pm
It's worrying.

Not saying Ferguson out (and never actually have) but it's hard not to think about what happened two years ago.  After a promising Christmas the gap could be down to 4 points between us and the relegation zone tonight, and in the form we are in and tough games coming up that's a concern.




.......to some of us.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 09:00:15 pm
He's got to go to avoid the drop

Your first post on the team since December 17th
Funny that
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: watto-drfc on February 13, 2018, 09:08:29 pm
My 1st post???
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: drfchound on February 13, 2018, 09:09:43 pm
Doesn't look that way to me.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 09:17:53 pm
Doesn't look that way to me.

It wouldn't do would it hound!
But if you care to look since December 17th he's posted about the winter break and the sackings of managers of other clubs.

So yes since the 17th December he has t posted about drfc..
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on February 13, 2018, 09:25:01 pm
The real worry is the midfield and how bad it has been of late.  Whiteman has been average at best, Houghton out of form, Rodney not good enough.  It's a problem especially without Rowe.  We've been lucky to get the points we have...
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: drfchound on February 13, 2018, 09:28:46 pm
Doesn't look that way to me.

It wouldn't do would it hound!
But if you care to look since December 17th he's posted about the winter break and the sackings of managers of other clubs.

So yes since the 17th December he has t posted about drfc..





Stop jumping on my posts man.

However, it wasn't his first post, as you had said.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 09:35:32 pm
First post on the team, get those specs polished fella.
Oh and you jumped on my post.
I can only assume you're on the sauce tonight
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: drfchound on February 13, 2018, 09:43:55 pm
First post on the team, get those specs polished fella.
Oh and you jumped on my post.
I can only assume you're on the sauce tonight




No, only a coffee.

Oh, I tell a lie, I had HP brown sauce on my omelette earlier.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: RoversAlias on February 13, 2018, 09:51:39 pm
What did we all have on our pancakes? Classic orange and sugar for me, another member of the household had corned beef which just baffled me!

(Anything to break the cycle of bickering here)
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: drfchound on February 13, 2018, 09:54:05 pm
What did we all have on our pancakes? Classic orange and sugar for me, another member of the household had corned beef which just baffled me!

(Anything to break the cycle of bickering here)




Good grief, I forgot it was pancake day.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 10:03:58 pm
Corned beef that's tomorrow int it ash Wednesday
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: the vicar on February 13, 2018, 10:05:26 pm
Rovers dint miss them they were as flat as pancake all game
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 10:07:29 pm
Darren gough was on the radio earlier saying he had corned beef hash on his pancake. Grew up having it and said everyone round there did
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 13, 2018, 10:08:00 pm
Doesn't look that way to me.

It wouldn't do would it hound!
But if you care to look since December 17th he's posted about the winter break and the sackings of managers of other clubs.

So yes since the 17th December he has t posted about drfc..

Get it on your sandwich board.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: dickos1 on February 13, 2018, 10:12:37 pm
Here's another one!
As long as you're entertaining yourself comrade that's all that matters
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: The Red Baron on February 13, 2018, 10:39:20 pm
The real worry is the midfield and how bad it has been of late.  Whiteman has been average at best, Houghton out of form, Rodney not good enough.  It's a problem especially without Rowe.  We've been lucky to get the points we have...

Bang on. All three were hopeless tonight.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 13, 2018, 10:47:34 pm
I have long given up trying to make sense of the team set up. These are all nominally good players but bizarrely when put in the usually mystifying formations, they rarely play consistently well. Maybe way beyond us lot, but god only knows what the formations are meant to achieve.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: Albert Trousers on February 13, 2018, 11:04:38 pm
Has to go I agree but I have a degree of sympathy for him tonight, he couldn’t have expected the players to put in such a disinterested shift, 5 yard passes to a man with now Walsall player near we’re going out for throw ins, they weren’t great at all & Lawlor barely had a save to make but we look like s side who are already relegated. The midfield/wing back 5 tonight of Blair, Rowe,Kongolo, Houghton & Whiteman were nothing short of an embarrassment.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: Chris Black come back on February 13, 2018, 11:06:38 pm
To entirely misquote and misatribute Stalin - one man looking disinterested is unfortunate, 11 players doing bugger all has much deeper roots.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: Akinfenwa on February 13, 2018, 11:19:04 pm
How often do we have midfield players as the flanks' last line of defence? Our defending in those areas really can be a bag of spanners at times, and is it any wonder why?

I get that there's supposed to be some beneficial trade-off that allows us to be stronger in other areas but it doesn't appear to be working as intended. The midfield has been pants and the forwards aren't performing either.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: since-1969 on February 13, 2018, 11:29:21 pm
Can't see a game coming up that I could confidently say we will win. Damage limitation needed second half but can't c us coming back from 3 down. Lose to Fleetwood- which on current showings is more than possible - and we will be in the ZONE which we know Fergie will not be able to get us out of. Hope I am wrong but starting to get a really bad feeling about our run in.
What would happen if we went down .
DF - leaves
Rowe- leaves
Kongolo -returns
Marquis - moves on
Etc etc ... there are more negitives than positives .
The board would set its stall out as a lower league club and reign all the expenses in and reduce the playing staff to fit a reduced budget so no more development players.
 
If DF has lost the players and can’t get another run going then L2 is looking more likely.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: drfchound on February 14, 2018, 10:29:36 am
Can't see a game coming up that I could confidently say we will win. Damage limitation needed second half but can't c us coming back from 3 down. Lose to Fleetwood- which on current showings is more than possible - and we will be in the ZONE which we know Fergie will not be able to get us out of. Hope I am wrong but starting to get a really bad feeling about our run in.
What would happen if we went down .
DF - leaves
Rowe- leaves
Kongolo -returns
Marquis - moves on
Etc etc ... there are more negitives than positives .
The board would set its stall out as a lower league club and reign all the expenses in and reduce the playing staff to fit a reduced budget so no more development players.
 
If DF has lost the players and can’t get another run going then L2 is looking more likely.





Hard to argue with most of that.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: silent majority on February 14, 2018, 07:26:02 pm
Can't see a game coming up that I could confidently say we will win. Damage limitation needed second half but can't c us coming back from 3 down. Lose to Fleetwood- which on current showings is more than possible - and we will be in the ZONE which we know Fergie will not be able to get us out of. Hope I am wrong but starting to get a really bad feeling about our run in.
What would happen if we went down .
DF - leaves
Rowe- leaves
Kongolo -returns
Marquis - moves on
Etc etc ... there are more negitives than positives .
The board would set its stall out as a lower league club and reign all the expenses in and reduce the playing staff to fit a reduced budget so no more development players.
 
If DF has lost the players and can’t get another run going then L2 is looking more likely.





Hard to argue with most of that.

Apart from the board reigning in the costs of course, why would they do that? Its easier to balance a budget in the lower league than this one so expenditure should be OK, as was proven last season.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: drfchound on February 14, 2018, 07:58:09 pm
Can't see a game coming up that I could confidently say we will win. Damage limitation needed second half but can't c us coming back from 3 down. Lose to Fleetwood- which on current showings is more than possible - and we will be in the ZONE which we know Fergie will not be able to get us out of. Hope I am wrong but starting to get a really bad feeling about our run in.
What would happen if we went down .
DF - leaves
Rowe- leaves
Kongolo -returns
Marquis - moves on
Etc etc ... there are more negitives than positives .
The board would set its stall out as a lower league club and reign all the expenses in and reduce the playing staff to fit a reduced budget so no more development players.
 
If DF has lost the players and can’t get another run going then L2 is looking more likely.





Hard to argue with most of that.

Apart from the board reigning in the costs of course, why would they do that? Its easier to balance a budget in the lower league than this one so expenditure should be OK, as was proven last season.





Well, attendances would be lower in L2, as they were last season, so income would be less.
In fact they could be lower than last season because lots of floating fans would be very disappointed at yet another relegation and perhaps not bother coming at all to the KMS.
Less income = less money available to give to the manager.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: silent majority on February 14, 2018, 09:12:41 pm
Can't see a game coming up that I could confidently say we will win. Damage limitation needed second half but can't c us coming back from 3 down. Lose to Fleetwood- which on current showings is more than possible - and we will be in the ZONE which we know Fergie will not be able to get us out of. Hope I am wrong but starting to get a really bad feeling about our run in.
What would happen if we went down .
DF - leaves
Rowe- leaves
Kongolo -returns
Marquis - moves on
Etc etc ... there are more negitives than positives .
The board would set its stall out as a lower league club and reign all the expenses in and reduce the playing staff to fit a reduced budget so no more development players.
 
If DF has lost the players and can’t get another run going then L2 is looking more likely.





Hard to argue with most of that.

Apart from the board reigning in the costs of course, why would they do that? Its easier to balance a budget in the lower league than this one so expenditure should be OK, as was proven last season.





Well, attendances would be lower in L2, as they were last season, so income would be less.
In fact they could be lower than last season because lots of floating fans would be very disappointed at yet another relegation and perhaps not bother coming at all to the KMS.
Less income = less money available to give to the manager.

Don't doubt that attendances would drop, but that's not all the argument. Yes less money from ticket sales but expenses drop dramatically too. So less expenditure means the same amount to go around, as we did last season. Its a known fact that Lg1 is the hardest league to balance the books in the top 4 divisions.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: 1879Rovers on February 17, 2018, 03:31:03 am
I think the West Brom players have pinched it.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: raggytash on February 17, 2018, 05:40:04 am
I think if we did go down. Blunt and Baldwin would have to go to...clearly not upto the job and if they give the Ferguson too long it’s entirely there decision when they have the power to act now.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: acko on February 17, 2018, 08:05:16 am
Sorry i stick with DF till at least the end of season.Who would replace him who we could afford,and who would want a job whereby it seems the only players they could sign are young inexperianced loanees.Ive heard people mention Wilcox but would he make a difference.No stick with DF till end of season at least and a change in transfer stratergy is needed.I am confident we will not go down.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: Campsall rover on February 17, 2018, 08:36:18 am
Sorry i stick with DF till at least the end of season.Who would replace him who we could afford,and who would want a job whereby it seems the only players they could sign are young inexperianced loanees.Ive heard people mention Wilcox but would he make a difference.No stick with DF till end of season at least and a change in transfer stratergy is needed.I am confident we will not go down.
Yes Wilcox would I my opinion steady the ship and would totally abandon the 3/5 at the back system.
Hope we don’t need that to happen. It’s up to Fergie to sort it over the next 3 games.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: Campsall rover on February 17, 2018, 08:50:00 am
I think if we did go down. Blunt and Baldwin would have to go to...clearly not upto the job and if they give the Ferguson too long it’s entirely there decision when they have the power to act now.
Are Blunt and Baldwin responsible for the tacticts and performances on the field of play?
Do you want them to do what Richardson did and run the dressing room and pick the team.
No they don’t do that do they. They employ a manager and coach to do that.
He has a budget and he uses that in the way he wishes. They decide on tacticts and pick the team.
That’s what they are paid for. End of. Get a proper perspective on reality raggytash.
All you do is slag the board off. We are luck to have local people running the club as it should be run.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: Campsall rover on February 17, 2018, 08:51:54 am
Let’s see where Barnsley are in 3 years.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: drfchound on February 17, 2018, 09:19:12 am
If Ferguson does get the bullet we have no idea who is out there to bring in, yes that is true.
However, by the same token there is also likely to be the man who can get more out of the players than the DF
As Campsall says, the CEO and Chairman don’t pick the team.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: dickos1 on February 17, 2018, 09:33:17 am
At the end of the day up until the week when we lost all our centre halves we were doing very well. We all hoped we could manage but we're struggling. All it's done is open the door to all the moaners who have been quiet for the majority of the season.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: idler on February 17, 2018, 10:44:43 am
Dickos if there is nothing to moan at then people won't moan much.
If in their eyes there is something to moan about then they will. The main problem is the very small percentage that never make a positive post when we are doing well but come straight on when we lose.
I think that in our present position we have every reason to be concerned. That level of concern will vary with each fan's personality. Reasoned,structured debate is a good way to air grievances and possibly swayed by another point of view whereas point scoring between posters achieves nothing. Having watched the Rovers for 50 years in August I'm used to being disappointed but still remain optimistic. We need the players to give us more confidence hopefully starting today.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: IDM on February 17, 2018, 10:57:43 am
I think if we did go down. Blunt and Baldwin would have to go to...clearly not upto the job and if they give the Ferguson too long it’s entirely there decision when they have the power to act now.

Rubbish..  we’re not owned and run by disreputable characters, and football form aside, we are probably run now as best as we ever have been..
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: dickos1 on February 17, 2018, 10:57:52 am
I agree, of course we can be disappointed but the rationale people can look and see that the main cause is injuries to our 3 centre halves.
But for the wallys it's just an opportunity to come back and slag the manager off
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: drfchound on February 17, 2018, 12:43:23 pm
Dickos if there is nothing to moan at then people won't moan much.
If in their eyes there is something to moan about then they will. The main problem is the very small percentage that never make a positive post when we are doing well but come straight on when we lose.
I think that in our present position we have every reason to be concerned. That level of concern will vary with each fan's personality. Reasoned,structured debate is a good way to air grievances and possibly swayed by another point of view whereas point scoring between posters achieves nothing. Having watched the Rovers for 50 years in August I'm used to being disappointed but still remain optimistic. We need the players to give us more confidence hopefully starting today.





Idler, a good post.
I consider myself to be a concerned poster, not a moaner.
I have also followed the Rovers for over fifty years and reserve the right to be concerned when things are not going too well.

I do make plenty of positive posts.
There have been plenty of good times.
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: dickos1 on February 17, 2018, 01:35:52 pm
You must have been concerned a long time
Title: Re: Taxi for ferguson
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on February 17, 2018, 06:10:37 pm
Cancel that bloody taxi right now! Who on earth would we replace him with, when we have only 12 matches left? John Sheridan, Stuart McCall, Phil Brown?   :facepalm: