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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Chris Black come back on February 13, 2018, 11:02:21 pm
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2015/16 relegation season. We won two games on trot on 28 Dec and 2 Jan, then we did not win again for rest of the season. This streak started when we were on 34 points.
This season. We won three games on trot on 23, 26 and 29 Dec, but we have not won since. This streak started when we were on 33 points.
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Good call but there are big differences.
In 15/16, by the time we’d played 33 matches, we were only 2 points of the drop zone and we’d picked up a grand total of 3 points from the previous 9 matches. The rot started earlier (in terms of matches played) and was deeper (in terms of results).
I still think there’s enough in the squad to dig us out of this comfortably. Baudry getting fit will be key. After those last two performances though I wouldn’t put any money on us staying up. Those are a match for any of the capitulations in 2016.
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I doubt we will go down and suspect we will end up just shy of 50 points or so.
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Good call but there are big differences.
In 15/16, by the time we’d played 33 matches, we were only 2 points of the drop zone and we’d picked up a grand total of 3 points from the previous 9 matches. The rot started earlier (in terms of matches played) and was deeper (in terms of results).
I still think there’s enough in the squad to dig us out of this comfortably. Baudry getting fit will be key. After those last two performances though I wouldn’t put any money on us staying up. Those are a match for any of the capitulations in 2016.
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I don't know if you were there tonight but it was awful. 4-2 flattered us to be honest. If it wasn't for our goal difference being worth a point I kind of hoped we'd be stuffed 6-0 to show how bad it was.
There needs to be a massive improvement on Saturday. No question about it.
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Good call but there are big differences.
In 15/16, by the time we’d played 33 matches, we were only 2 points of the drop zone and we’d picked up a grand total of 3 points from the previous 9 matches. The rot started earlier (in terms of matches played) and was deeper (in terms of results).
I still think there’s enough in the squad to dig us out of this comfortably. Baudry getting fit will be key. After those last two performances though I wouldn’t put any money on us staying up. Those are a match for any of the capitulations in 2016.
BST
I don't know if you were there tonight but it was awful. 4-2 flattered us to be honest. If it wasn't for our goal difference being worth a point I kind of hoped we'd be stuffed 6-0 to show how bad it was.
There needs to be a massive improvement on Saturday. No question about it.
TRB. See your other thread.
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2015/16 relegation season. We won two games on trot on 28 Dec and 2 Jan, then we did not win again for rest of the season. This streak started when we were on 34 points.
This season. We won three games on trot on 23, 26 and 29 Dec, but we have not won since. This streak started when we were on 33 points.
I should also add that we are now on 33 games and 39 points.
At the same point in the 2015/16 relegation season we were after 33 games, on 37 points.
So we are two points to the good on that relegation season.
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We have a squad of players who are good league 2 players. Unfortunately we have lost our best centrehalves but that’s not the problem. The midfield and strike force have not been good enough all season. We got the players we could with money we had in the summer. We did not improve the midfield and strikeforce at the transfer window. We the supporters believe some of these players are better than what they are. They are overrated. DF in systems he plays may not get the best out of some of these players and also believes they are better than what they are. We discuss on here the merits of Mandeville, May and Beestin, yet Mandeville gone on loan to Colchester and sits on the bench for three games.
Question to ask which players in our squad would get into any top league 1 side. Maybe 1 or 2.
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2015/16 relegation season. We won two games on trot on 28 Dec and 2 Jan, then we did not win again for rest of the season. This streak started when we were on 34 points.
This season. We won three games on trot on 23, 26 and 29 Dec, but we have not won since. This streak started when we were on 33 points.
Agree with the sentiment but I know for certain we beat Wigan as we ended their winning run I'm sure. I have a feeling without checking that we beat Coventry as well.
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2015/16 relegation season. We won two games on trot on 28 Dec and 2 Jan, then we did not win again for rest of the season. This streak started when we were on 34 points.
This season. We won three games on trot on 23, 26 and 29 Dec, but we have not won since. This streak started when we were on 33 points.
Agree with the sentiment but I know for certain we beat Wigan as we ended their winning run I'm sure. I have a feeling without checking that we beat Coventry as well.
Yes we did but that was after going 16 league games without a win and the damage had already been done. Are we in for a repeat as we are now 8 league games into a winless run.
I am very very concerned about the dressing room now. This is serious. Does DF have what it takes to turn this around? I personally would not take the risk based on 2016 and April 2017
Hand the reigns to Russ Wilcox he has experience and I think he would stick to a 4-4-2 system
or 4-1-2-1-2 diamond.
I think he would unite and galvanise the dressing room and see us to safety. Just my opinion of course others on here may well disagree with me. Thoughts anyone.
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Neil Redfern for me. He’s already here 😜
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2015/16 relegation season. We won two games on trot on 28 Dec and 2 Jan, then we did not win again for rest of the season. This streak started when we were on 34 points.
This season. We won three games on trot on 23, 26 and 29 Dec, but we have not won since. This streak started when we were on 33 points.
Agree with the sentiment but I know for certain we beat Wigan as we ended their winning run I'm sure. I have a feeling without checking that we beat Coventry as well.
We did you're correct
But he doesn't worry about facts when making his point
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We did beat Wigan and Coventry but our goose was cooked when we lost to Colchester and Blackpool over Easter. Then having earned ourselves a lifeline we threw it away with an awful display at Crewe.
Saturday is a huge game. It's winnable on paper but lose that and we are in serious trouble. We were lucky that most other results went our way. We may not be so lucky again.
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Dean Saunders.
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Dean Saunders.
Please please but I can’t see it happening unfortunately.
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Dean Saunders.
He does have some unfinshed investigation work here 😂😂😂
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2015/16 relegation season. We won two games on trot on 28 Dec and 2 Jan, then we did not win again for rest of the season. This streak started when we were on 34 points.
This season. We won three games on trot on 23, 26 and 29 Dec, but we have not won since. This streak started when we were on 33 points.
Agree with the sentiment but I know for certain we beat Wigan as we ended their winning run I'm sure. I have a feeling without checking that we beat Coventry as well.
Quite right. Should have been “didn’t win again for 16 games”. We beat both Wigan and Coventry after a run of getting 4 points out of a possible 48 points. As other folk have said, it was that run that sent us down.
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2015/16 relegation season. We won two games on trot on 28 Dec and 2 Jan, then we did not win again for rest of the season. This streak started when we were on 34 points.
This season. We won three games on trot on 23, 26 and 29 Dec, but we have not won since. This streak started when we were on 33 points.
Agree with the sentiment but I know for certain we beat Wigan as we ended their winning run I'm sure. I have a feeling without checking that we beat Coventry as well.
We did you're correct
But he doesn't worry about facts when making his point
Get it on your sandwich board.
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Your wasted on here
You should have your own sat night tv show
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Anyone who wants Dean Saunders back must've suffered amnesia, he's a terrible 'football manager' and has smartly given up on it as a profession.
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Amnesia...??? I dare bet his record is a lot better than anything we have had since...
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He's been awful everywhere since he left us! And had one terrible season with us and then a good half season with us
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Anyone who wants Dean Saunders back must've suffered amnesia, he's a terrible 'football manager' and has smartly given up on it as a profession.
How do work than one out then. He turned the shambles of the ‘experiment’ into League 1 Champions inside 12 months. Admittedly he left for Wolves before the goal was achieved but it was his team that he built and it was a team with a great Captain, was full of leaders with a winning mentality, a team with grit, determination, a never say die attitude and the best team spirit I have ever seen in a Rovers team. Other than that he was a rubbish manager.
What a ridiculous statement RoversAlias imo of course.
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It's funny how one manager gets us relegated and then leaves us about 5th in the league below and is a hero and another gets us relegated and then promoted but he's clueless
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Anyone who wants Dean Saunders back must've suffered amnesia, he's a terrible 'football manager' and has smartly given up on it as a profession.
How do work than one out then. He turned the shambles of the ‘experiment’ into League 1 Champions inside 12 months. Admittedly he left for Wolves before the goal was achieved but it was his team that he built and it was a team with a great Captain, was full of leaders with a winning mentality, a team with grit, determination, a never say die attitude and the best team spirit I have ever seen in a Rovers team. Other than that he was a rubbish manager.
What a ridiculous statement RoversAlias imo of course.
He didn't turn the experiment into anything...he was actually the start of it! The experiment began with SOD being sacked in the middle of the night and replaced immediately with Saunders, in with him came Willie McKay and what followed was a dreadful mess the likes of which should never have happened. He was a terrible manager that season albeit with a load of crap at his disposal.
The following season he actually put together a very good squad but the football we played was diabolical and I do not believe we'd have won the league with him in charge. Cotterill's brilliance saw us through a few games, we won a lot of close 1-0 games quite luckily I thought. Flynn and Jones fostered the never-say-die attitude that carried us over the line, and just look at Saunders since he left us as well: got Wolves relegated to the third tier ONE year after they left the Premier League, got Crawley relegated (including a 5-0 home humiliation by Dickov's mediocre Rovers side) and then did nothing at Chesterfield either, ask their fans what they think of him.
So no, I didn't say anything ridiculous. Some fans on here seem to have this bizarre alternate reality memory of Saunders at Rovers. His sole achievement was putting together the 12/13 squad (a side that needed the January additions of Coppinger, Furman and Lundstram to really push us to promotion in my opinion) and even then he goes down as one of our worst ever managers for me. He didn't have a clue.