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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: godlike1 on February 14, 2018, 04:52:38 am
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Chris Powell
Gary Monk
Brian McDermot
Steven Presley
Bloody hell, have to say I’m struggling other than looking at clubs with managers already.
With bigger clubs than ours also looking for managers this won’t be easy
I fear we will have to come put up with DF and his bildge of football a little longer, esp as our club are so slow and clueless to act
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Copps + RoK
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Paul Hurst from Shrewsbury end of the season when they bottle it ;-)
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Hasn’t Chris Powell just become Southend Manager
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Gary Monk has basically stated that he doesn't want the Barnsley job as they are to small, he feels he can get a top Championship or lower Prem. Unrealistic for us.
Powell has just taken over at Southend.
Not sure of any reason why Hurst would leave Shrewsbury for us without giving him a big transfer budget...which wouldn't happen.
To be honest, I don't see Ferguson leaving anyway at the minute.
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This is Players not putting a shift in and forgetting that we are why they play . DF is as frustrated as anyone , No ONE could have seen this coming. I think the air would have been blue yesterday and training in the sub zero temp’ will be required to just to get back to norm ‘.
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I don’t want Fergie to go but I’ve always touted Jack Ross for our next gaffer. Favourite for the Barnsley job now though. I’m on at 18s.
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Don't really know anything about him Gaz, what is his background?
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Gareth Ainsworth done a great job at Wycombe
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Stuart McCall?
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Current St Mirren manager. Got them playing some lovely football and going to get them back into the Scottish Prem after being bottom and in disarray when he took over last year. It’s a big step for him into the Championship I think but Barnsley aren’t a big club are they I suppose. I’m not 100% sure he will go there even though I backed him. They are speaking to him but I wouldn’t be surprised if he declines any offer. May be wrong though.
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Stuart McCall?
As realistic and solid a candidate as there is out there.
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Paul Hurst from Shrewsbury end of the season when they bottle it ;-)
Good shout.
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Gary Monk has basically stated that he doesn't want the Barnsley job as they are to small, he feels he can get a top Championship or lower Prem. Unrealistic for us.
Powell has just taken over at Southend.
Not sure of any reason why Hurst would leave Shrewsbury for us without giving him a big transfer budget...which wouldn't happen.
To be honest, I don't see Ferguson leaving anyway at the minute.
Excuse me Paul Hurst left Grimsby Town for Shrewsbury Town who will have a bottom 6 budget in this league and who were the bookies favourite to finish bottom before a ball was kicked this season.
Yes if they don’t go up he might be tempted to come to Rovers. We are a much bigger club than Shrewsbury.
What he has achieved so far this season has been nothing short of astonishing and brilliant and just shows with a playing method and organisation allied wth team spirit what can be achieved.
Any one remember Dean Saunders team of 2012/13 with a little help from Brian Flynn of course.
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Richie Wellens with Copps
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Neil Redfern
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I would go for the Accrington manager If I went for anyone other than Fergie that is. Or would fans accept Dean Saunders back?
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Exeter manager
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Exeter manager
No thanks imo.
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I would go for the Accrington manager If I went for anyone other than Fergie that is. Or would fans accept Dean Saunders back?
As you know from our discussion on the coach last night Brian, I would have him back quick as I could get him here. In fact I would go and pick him up myself and bring him here. I would eve claim the fuel costs from the club either.
By heck it might not be pretty but he would sort them out. 4-4-2 and everyone would have a defined role in the team. No tinkering, happy players great team spirit. BRING IT ON. Trouble is he wouldn’t come back to us, well I doubt it anyway. Would need to give him a contract till summer of 2020 on good money I reckon to even get him remotely interested.
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That should read I would NOT claim the fuel :headbang:
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Pointless discussion, Fergies going nowhere
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Pointless discussion, Fergies going nowhere
Unfortunately!
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Filo I hope you are right, but the crowd's reaction last night was not the best, and if things do not improve the pressure will crank up.
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Filo I hope you are right, but the crowd's reaction last night was not the best, and if things do not improve the pressure will crank up.
The crowds reaction when we lose and put in a poor performance is never the best, it's what fickle football fans do. A decent win on Saturday and those same fans will the singing Fergies name
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George Boateng sounded very knowledgable on talksport the other day. Although I think Ferguson dropping the 3 at the back system would be the best all round I still like him.
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I don't expect that Ferguson is imminently to be sacked. He has done a lot of good work. The recent performances are a real problem and he has to stop the rot quickly. He has got a lot of fair reasons for there being an issue.
Equally if I was the owners and chief exec I would be putting feelers and a small contingency plan in place. They would be foolish not to. He will have targets and have to meet them. Ultimately us fans don't know what they think but they'll have thoughts.
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Filo I hope you are right, but the crowd's reaction last night was not the best, and if things do not improve the pressure will crank up.
The crowds reaction when we lose and put in a poor performance is never the best, it's what fickle football fans do. A decent win on Saturday and those same fans will the singing Fergies name
You could also say they are very forgiving, which is a better attribute than being called fickle.
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George Boateng sounded very knowledgable on talksport the other day. Although I think Ferguson dropping the 3 at the back system would be the best all round I still like him.
You could say the same about Gary Neville but he ended up struggling at Valencia.
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The time for forgiving is over imo. How much more time do we give.
13 games left. Do we wait until there is only 6/7/8 could be almost fatal by then. Is it a risk worth taking? IMO now is the time for action.
A new voice in the dressing room needed. Has to be Wilcox as a caretaker manager. He is already here and knows the players and has managerial experience in league football. Could have Redfearn as a temporary assistant/coach as he is already here with the Belles.
He I am sure could combine both roles until early May. He is an excellent coach in a different league to Stachan. No comparison imo.
We don’t want to rush into an appointment and get the wrong man.
In the summer there will be far more suitable candidates available than at the present time.
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I don't expect that Ferguson is imminently to be sacked. He has done a lot of good work. The recent performances are a real problem and he has to stop the rot quickly. He has got a lot of fair reasons for there being an issue.
Equally if I was the owners and chief exec I would be putting feelers and a small contingency plan in place. They would be foolish not to. He will have targets and have to meet them. Ultimately us fans don't know what they think but they'll have thoughts.
The question is I suppose when do you say enough is enough? I don't think he could survive another couple of displays like that, especially at home. Whether we stay up or not I'd be taking a long look at whether he's the right man to take us forward.
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What about Mr Evans.
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What about Mr Evans.
there is no way he would leave mid season they lost on saturday first loss in about 16 - lost very few matches this season - yes he did consider Gillingham earlier this season (i laughed it off wrongly) confident they will finish 2nd
shrewsbury are stuffed full of loanees accrington are also stuffed full of loanees - could argue the managers struck it lucky
remember that shrewsbury manager when they played braintree in the play offs (and losing the ist leg) being on very shaky ground if he lost the 2nd leg he would have been sacked
i always reckoned shaun derry would become an Alan Pardew clone and manage at least in th e Championship and i'll stick with him to become a decent manager one day and i was shocked to find out last night he had been sacked on friday
just remembered seeing him derry quoted in the odds when ferdie was 14/1 for the job - wonder if he got an interview
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What about Mr Evans.
there is no way he would leave mid season they lost on saturday first loss in about 16 - lost very few matches this season - yes he did consider Gillingham earlier this season (i laughed it off wrongly) confident they will finish 2nd
shrewsbury are stuffed full of loanees accrington are also stuffed full of loanees - could argue the managers struck it lucky
remember that shrewsbury manager when they played braintree in the play offs (and losing the ist leg) being on very shaky ground if he lost the 2nd leg he would have been sacked
i always reckoned shaun derry would become an Alan Pardew clone and manage at least in th e Championship and i'll stick with him to become a decent manager one day and i was shocked to find out last night he had been sacked on friday
just remembered seeing him derry quoted in the odds when ferdie was 14/1 for the job - wonder if he got an interview
Shaun Derry no no no, thanks but that’s a no from me.
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If Russ Wilcox was to take charge his assistant would be John Schofield, teammates from years ago
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We are stuck with Ferguson probably until January next year, at the earliest.
I cannot see him getting us relegated this season (although it looks quite tight) and the Board will see that as the bare minimum completed by keeping us in League One.
Their expectations will likely be that we are by mid-point of next season, competitive and consistently in top half or bottom half, looking to challenge for promotion.
If that is not the case come the January window, then you cannot really see how their Five Year Plan is achievable with yet another modest season in League One looming.
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Nobody has mentioned Steve McLaren yet?
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Nobody has mentioned Steve McLaren yet?
Would he go down as far as League 1?
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He might if he took over a championship side. 😉
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I would go for the Accrington manager If I went for anyone other than Fergie that is. Or would fans accept Dean Saunders back?
As you know from our discussion on the coach last night Brian, I would have him back quick as I could get him here. In fact I would go and pick him up myself and bring him here. I would eve claim the fuel costs from the club either.
By heck it might not be pretty but he would sort them out. 4-4-2 and everyone would have a defined role in the team. No tinkering, happy players great team spirit. BRING IT ON. Trouble is he wouldn’t come back to us, well I doubt it anyway. Would need to give him a contract till summer of 2020 on good money I reckon to even get him remotely interested.
Good team spirit !!! err have a word with Copps
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Filo I hope you are right, but the crowd's reaction last night was not the best, and if things do not improve the pressure will crank up.
The crowds reaction when we lose and put in a poor performance is never the best, it's what fickle football fans do. A decent win on Saturday and those same fans will the singing Fergies name
Something we very rarely here these days, fans singing DF’s name.
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We are stuck with Ferguson probably until January next year, at the earliest.
I cannot see him getting us relegated this season (although it looks quite tight) and the Board will see that as the bare minimum completed by keeping us in League One.
Their expectations will likely be that we are by mid-point of next season, competitive and consistently in top half or bottom half, looking to challenge for promotion.
If that is not the case come the January window, then you cannot really see how their Five Year Plan is achievable with yet another modest season in League One looming.
We couldn't see him getting us relegated 2 years ago. As last night we were hammered by Colchester Good Friday by 4 goals and never recovered. Enough is enough, I am off the fence, not maliscious, but don't want a return to league 2 which is very (too) possible!
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Based on his team selection post on another thread, Filo would be a good shout.
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We are stuck with Ferguson probably until January next year, at the earliest.
I cannot see him getting us relegated this season (although it looks quite tight) and the Board will see that as the bare minimum completed by keeping us in League One.
Their expectations will likely be that we are by mid-point of next season, competitive and consistently in top half or bottom half, looking to challenge for promotion.
If that is not the case come the January window, then you cannot really see how their Five Year Plan is achievable with yet another modest season in League One looming.
We couldn't see him getting us relegated 2 years ago. As last night we were hammered by Colchester Good Friday by 4 goals and never recovered. Enough is enough, I am off the fence, not maliscious, but don't want a return to league 2 which is very (too) possible!
Walsall are a better side than Colchester were, but I knew the writing was on the wall after that one. There are a few poor teams we have to play and if we get a hammering from them I'll be seriously worried.
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Dean Saunders, how many relegations has he been involved in ? He's one of the reasons the Chesterfield are where they are,brought in to many poor/below average players.
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Is he? not that they sold their best players and didn't give him the funds to replace them then?
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I've got a couple of mates who are season ticket holders in North Derbyshire and they along with a lot of others blame him for starting the rot
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I've got a couple of mates who are season ticket holders in North Derbyshire and they along with a lot of others blame him for starting the rot
Chesterfields problem was Dave Allen cancelling all his financial contributions and stepping down from the board. The inevitable happens after that.
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I've got a couple of mates who are season ticket holders in North Derbyshire and they along with a lot of others blame him for starting the rot
Ah, definitely means he was the reason then.
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Russell Slade?
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Russell Slade?
I used to think he was a decent lower league manager, but he's been a disaster in his last few jobs.
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I'm only saying what I was told and believe, I still don't get this love-in for Dean Saunders, he left with over 2/5 of the season to go, don't blame hi for trying to better himself at Wolves, but he didn't get us promoted on his own. Also how many teams has he been involved in that got relegated in a 5 to 6 year period.
A good manager is not someone can talk to media all laughing and joking, like I don't think Klopp is a good manager.
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I often wonder whether we would have got promoted with Saunders in charge. Lest we forget, just before he went off to Wolves he signed Lee Fowler and Emile Sinclair, both of whom were bobbins. Flynn and Jones played them very sparingly.
I thought that duo got us promoted. Flynn organised things and Jones provided the leadership. Jones on his own wasn't particularly a success as caretaker manager, but maybe with Flynn alongside him he'd have done better.
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Russell Slade?
I used to think he was a decent lower league manager, but he's been a disaster in his last few jobs.
True
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Alf Ramsey with Alex Ferguson as his assistant and Brian Clough as kit man could not have kept us up in The Experiment season. Absolutely crackers and totally impossible to manage.
He looked at that League One season ruthlessly and built a team to get out of there, but by playing truly awful football and without any thought to what happened to his Dirty Dozen if we made it to the Championship.
It was atrocious football game after game, but with basically a brand new side, he did a cracking job of getting us up there and in great position when he left us. Think that was a job ruthlessly well done.
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just remembered a good manager who would do a good job (would he get on with the board)
sweet little harmless "nice" "well mannered" Billy Davies been out of works since ???? :chair: :chair:
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just remembered a good manager who would do a good job (would he get on with the board)
sweet little harmless "nice" "well mannered" Billy Davies been out of works since ???? :chair: :chair:
Your kidding, another no thankyou from me. He would want a playing budget of £10,000,000 just for starters. After he had squandered that, by January would be asking for another £5,000,000