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Title: Kiwomya
Post by: Draytonian III on April 07, 2018, 08:51:56 pm
Wasn't in the squad today, is he injured or ill, I might have missed news on him ?
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: ravenrover on April 07, 2018, 09:24:42 pm
according to DF it was a "nice" selection problem, he didn't want to change the squad too much
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: scawsby steve on April 07, 2018, 09:28:16 pm
Surely Fergie wouldn't leave Kiwomya out of a squad that has Kongolo in it.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: selby on April 07, 2018, 10:35:28 pm
  He wants to start leaving May out, another two points thrown away with a sitter from 6yds missed.
   Six yards out, unmarked and takes three touches and does not get a shot away, and Williams on the bench, criminal.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Surrey Rover on April 07, 2018, 11:12:18 pm
I really wanted Alfie to make the step up but unfortunately I don’t think he has what it takes. You simply have to react faster with chances like the one that fell to him in time added on, he should have put his foot through the ball without hesitation.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Retdon1 on April 07, 2018, 11:47:53 pm
Just seen that Alfie mays chance again. That’s why in my opinion, he will never be good enough to play at this level. A good striker hits it first time. He always takes a touch. You can get away with that at semi pro level but not in league 1/2
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: scawsby steve on April 08, 2018, 03:30:39 am
I still maintain that Fergie will sign another striker in the Summer; however, to get the kind of quality that we need in that position, it may have to be a loan.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 08, 2018, 07:33:14 am
Just seen that Alfie mays chance again. That’s why in my opinion, he will never be good enough to play at this level. A good striker hits it first time. He always takes a touch. You can get away with that at semi pro level but not in league 1/2

The kind of goal another of our strikers would finish no problem.  But as he doesn't run around as much....
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: BigH on April 08, 2018, 07:43:18 am
Signing May was always acknowledged as a gamble given the gulf in status between the level of football he was playing and L2/L1.

It would have been a wonderful story to see him succeed but the sorry fact is that he's not good enough for this level.

Fair play to the lad; it was a gamble for him as much as for us and he's taken his opportunity and had a go. However, it hasn't worked and I'd be surprised if he's still here at the beginning of next season.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: GazLaz on April 08, 2018, 07:51:17 am
Signing May was always acknowledged as a gamble given the gulf in status between the level of football he was playing and L2/L1.

It would have been a wonderful story to see him succeed but the sorry fact is that he's not good enough for this level.

Fair play to the lad; it was a gamble for him as much as for us and he's taken his opportunity and had a go. However, it hasn't worked and I'd be surprised if he's still here at the beginning of next season.

Finally people are coming round to this. I got slaughtered by many for daring to say he was on good.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Brian Young on April 08, 2018, 09:34:09 am
DF needs to strengthen up front and Alfie May could be the unfair scapegoat , Marquis is as much to blame for not taking the opportunities he gets and he played regularly when earlier on when he clearly was out of form . May imo has got to be used with greater effect , he IS a goal scorer and creates  opening  for others as well by drawing the defence out of position with his runs . We have had too many midfielders and not enough scorers up front or variations to choose from . Enlarge the squad size and I think we’ll be more competitive.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 08, 2018, 09:38:29 am
DF needs to strengthen up front and Alfie May could be the unfair scapegoat , Marquis is as much to blame for not taking the opportunities he gets and he played regularly when earlier on when he clearly was out of form . May imo has got to be used with greater effect , he IS a goal scorer and creates  opening  for others as well by drawing the defence out of position with his runs . We have had too many midfielders and not enough scorers up front or variations to choose from . Enlarge the squad size and I think we’ll be more competitive.

But then we'll be wasting wages on players not getting in the 18. We only need 4 strikers, Marquis, Kiwomya and two others. They all need to bring something different to the table.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Brian Young on April 08, 2018, 10:19:21 am
An 18 man squad is just not a promotion platform. With as many injuries that we’ve had at any one time and together with NOT being able to bring in short term loans when the window shuts , makes thing even more important that you get your squad build up and either you go for it or settle for a gamble knowing that odds of getting across the line are impossible without luck beyond reason.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 08, 2018, 12:18:28 pm
To be fair we probably need around a 22 man squad, so you have the 2 for every position. Which would also allow for any injuries.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: bpoolrover on April 08, 2018, 12:39:22 pm
The problem is I’m not convinced kiwomya is a striker, everytime I’ve seen him play for other clubs he has been right midfield where he played well
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: wing commander on April 09, 2018, 09:02:13 am
    Yes I see him as a right midfielder as well...Surprised he didn't make the squad Saturday..Personally I would have put him in instead of Williams..Nothing against him,but he's not going to get a new deal here and with Kiwomya having spent the majority of the season out,i would prefer a player whose likely to figure a lot next season get the nod..
   
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 09, 2018, 09:13:34 am
IF we ever choose to play a 4-3-3 formation, then Alex would slot nicely into the rhs of a front 3, imho. Partner for Marquis? Not yet, but he has all summer to work on that.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: phil old leake on April 09, 2018, 09:59:24 am
We’ve needed a decent striker for years. Personally so far Kiwomya has done very little to impress me. Before everyone starts to get defensive I realise he has been seriously ill and that will take a lot to get over.  Maybe next season with a tough pre season he will be what we all expected. He’s fast and works hard. So far I’ve seen no end product.  Without improving he isn’t the man to push the team on next season. For me he’s shown nothing more than may.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: GazLaz on April 09, 2018, 10:08:46 am
We’ve needed a decent striker for years. Personally so far Kiwomya has done very little to impress me. Before everyone starts to get defensive I realise he has been seriously ill and that will take a lot to get over.  Maybe next season with a tough pre season he will be what we all expected. He’s fast and works hard. So far I’ve seen no end product.  Without improving he isn’t the man to push the team on next season. For me he’s shown nothing more than may.


Every club is looking for a decent striker. We are lucky to have a decent one in Marquis.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: phil old leake on April 09, 2018, 10:12:58 am
Agreed with that but he needs back up and more support
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on April 09, 2018, 11:20:41 am
I can see how Alfie May can appear poor but picking on that one bit of play at Gills is a bit much. I've seen equally bad from many of our players.

He does need to get more solid, take his chances - work to be done. He does have positive qualities, and is still our most successful goalscorer per time on the pitch - that has to figure. I doubt he's that costly. The question is, does DF think his attitude is good enough and is he making enough improvements in training?

I agree about Kiwomya being more of an attacking midfielder but do think he could be a key player for us - a work in progress. Williams will definitely be leaving unless he does something dramatic between now and the end of the season.

For me it's Beestin (also somewhat of an attacking midfielder), Marquis, May, Longbottom and one addition. DF could be looking at bringing in another youngish forward rather than splashing out on someone more established.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: drfchound on April 09, 2018, 01:01:18 pm
    Yes I see him as a right midfielder as well...Surprised he didn't make the squad Saturday..Personally I would have put him in instead of Williams..Nothing against him,but he's not going to get a new deal here and with Kiwomya having spent the majority of the season out,i would prefer a player whose likely to figure a lot next season get the nod..
   





Hadn’t AK picked up an injury, hence not being in the squad.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 09, 2018, 01:12:55 pm
Illness, not injury.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 09, 2018, 01:16:57 pm
I can see how Alfie May can appear poor but picking on that one bit of play at Gills is a bit much. I've seen equally bad from many of our players.

He does need to get more solid, take his chances - work to be done. He does have positive qualities, and is still our most successful goalscorer per time on the pitch - that has to figure. I doubt he's that costly. The question is, does DF think his attitude is good enough and is he making enough improvements in training?

I agree about Kiwomya being more of an attacking midfielder but do think he could be a key player for us - a work in progress. Williams will definitely be leaving unless he does something dramatic between now and the end of the season.

For me it's Beestin (also somewhat of an attacking midfielder), Marquis, May, Longbottom and one addition. DF could be looking at bringing in another youngish forward rather than splashing out on someone more established.

Longbottom is an attacking mid/left midfielder.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: wing commander on April 09, 2018, 04:22:23 pm
Illness, not injury.

Nope, Ferguson said he Kiwomya travelled to Gillingham but he decided to go with the exact same squad as the previous week so he was just left out...
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 10, 2018, 07:14:54 am
I agree, but he came back into the squad after recovering from an illness, not injury!
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: wing commander on April 10, 2018, 09:07:34 am
  it's not a bad life been a footballer..You get a sniffle and you get told to have time off and stay at home out the way...For the rest of us you need to have full blown black death before work doesn't think your pulling a fast one..lol
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Filo on April 10, 2018, 12:35:28 pm
Signing May was always acknowledged as a gamble given the gulf in status between the level of football he was playing and L2/L1.

It would have been a wonderful story to see him succeed but the sorry fact is that he's not good enough for this level.

Fair play to the lad; it was a gamble for him as much as for us and he's taken his opportunity and had a go. However, it hasn't worked and I'd be surprised if he's still here at the beginning of next season.

Finally people are coming round to this. I got slaughtered by many for daring to say he was on good.

Not from this corner you did n't, I've said it often, he'll never play above the level he is at now, a great trier, but not good enough I'm afraid
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: RoversAlias on April 10, 2018, 12:41:02 pm
  it's not a bad life been a footballer..You get a sniffle and you get told to have time off and stay at home out the way...For the rest of us you need to have full blown black death before work doesn't think your pulling a fast one..lol

I mean, his job is one revolving around peak physical exercise. If you have the flu there's not much chance of you performing your job to the required standard in that case.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Filo on April 10, 2018, 01:02:22 pm
  it's not a bad life been a footballer..You get a sniffle and you get told to have time off and stay at home out the way...For the rest of us you need to have full blown black death before work doesn't think your pulling a fast one..lol

One place I worked at a Death Certificate was borderline sufficient 😀
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Bentley Bullet on April 10, 2018, 01:32:15 pm
One place I worked at I was off work after breaking my foot when a fork truck ran over me. Luckily for me, the manager who asked me to go and see him regarding the length of time I was likely to be off, was himself off long-term with a paper cut.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: glosterred on April 10, 2018, 03:34:20 pm
I can safely say I’ve never had a day off work ill, I've always managed to make them my illness last a week! 😎


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Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Bentley Bullet on April 10, 2018, 05:04:41 pm
I used to work for a place, which I'll not name to save them embarrassment, where they had an elected committee of workers and management who would decide if people off work were genuinely incapacitated or were shirking.

Once, a workmate on his return to work went to the 'Monday noon courtroom' to find out the 'jury's' decision on whether he'd be getting paid for being off or not. After half an hour of waiting outside the 'courtroom', a manager came and told him that none of the committee members was there.

They were all off work ...............Sick!
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: selby on April 10, 2018, 05:51:10 pm
 B.B. have you thought of writing a TV series?
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Bentley Bullet on April 10, 2018, 06:10:19 pm
B.B. have you thought of writing a TV series?

Well, If it was based on the place I worked at above, I would have to be discreet about it in case the firm realised it was about them. I would have to get someone in to show me the ropes regarding the legal consequences of doing so.

I'd particularly like Rob Brydon to star in it if it was given the go ahead.

Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: drfchound on April 10, 2018, 07:44:33 pm
Go and see Roy Clarke BB.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: Pancho Regan on April 10, 2018, 08:46:01 pm
We’ve needed a decent striker for years. Personally so far Kiwomya has done very little to impress me. Before everyone starts to get defensive I realise he has been seriously ill and that will take a lot to get over.  Maybe next season with a tough pre season he will be what we all expected. He’s fast and works hard. So far I’ve seen no end product.  Without improving he isn’t the man to push the team on next season. For me he’s shown nothing more than may.

I have to agree with all of that Phil.
Title: Re: Kiwomya
Post by: ravenrover on April 11, 2018, 08:16:17 pm
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