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Title: Marquis
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 17, 2018, 10:23:52 pm
I've been critical of him previously, one of the reasons because his passing is shocking but tonight and the last few games he's ran himself into the ground and should have got MOTM.

Now has 15 goals for the season. Brilliant return!
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: mushRTID on April 17, 2018, 10:24:50 pm
He was awesome tonight, how did he not get MOTM? Mental.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: dknward2 on April 17, 2018, 10:31:46 pm
Felt for him tonight was running and closing everyone down then looked behind him to see the rest of his teammates stood on half way looking like they couldn't give a shit
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: RedJ on April 17, 2018, 10:41:57 pm
Kiwomya is one lazy bas**rd.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: Retdon1 on April 17, 2018, 10:50:54 pm
Kiwomya looks a liability.. lazy, weak, puts in zero effort, doesn’t react any where near quick enough.. very disappointing
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: Jonathan on April 17, 2018, 11:10:07 pm
Interesting observation that Marquis has run himself into the ground over “the last few games.” He’s done it ever since he signed. Whether in or out of form, he always puts a shift in. He might have a moan here and there that seems to get a few people’s backs up, but he never gives defenders an easy game.

I love watching him play. His all round game is excellent and he earns his goals.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 17, 2018, 11:17:45 pm
Shame about the rest, though, Jon!
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: BerlinRed on April 17, 2018, 11:21:16 pm
Kiwomya is one lazy bas**rd.

Agreed! Really frustrated me when he came on. He seemed happy to let John do all the leg-work on his behalf.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on April 17, 2018, 11:25:12 pm
Yes, not enough players in his class and it really shows at times. How long will he put up with it?
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: goalkick on April 17, 2018, 11:31:37 pm
Credit to him. Some of the others could not be bothered tonight
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on April 17, 2018, 11:39:04 pm
He’s a joy to watch. The effort he puts in should be a baseline for any professional player. He was totally justified in turning round and giving Kiwomya a gobful when he chased down the keeper from 40 yards out to find no Rovers player within the same postcode as the keeper just rolled the ball to the centre half. And even THEN it was Marquis who chased down the centre half. 
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: RoversAlias on April 17, 2018, 11:55:17 pm
I think it's harsh calling Kiwomya a "lazy bas**rd". Wasn't his night tonight but I don't think he's lazy, I think he was either tired or just not mentally right to play tonight for some reason.

Anyway, this thread is about Marquis and he was brilliant again tonight. Clear Player of the Season for me.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: Draytonian III on April 18, 2018, 12:12:03 am
Kiwomya tired , how
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: The Red Baron on April 18, 2018, 12:31:36 am
I think it's harsh calling Kiwomya a "lazy bas**rd". Wasn't his night tonight but I don't think he's lazy, I think he was either tired or just not mentally right to play tonight for some reason.

Anyway, this thread is about Marquis and he was brilliant again tonight. Clear Player of the Season for me.

He looked totally uninterested tonight and was lucky not to be brought off within 10 minutes of coming on. Goodness knows what was wrong with him.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: hoolahoop on April 18, 2018, 12:55:04 am
Marquis is shite  - I can't see any club being interested in him.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: roversdude on April 18, 2018, 05:14:40 am
Was definitely MOTM great shift from JM
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: Padge_DRFC on April 18, 2018, 06:41:53 am
Kiwomya was probably exhausted in his 5 layers and gloves. It was 16 degrees last night!
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: darren61 on April 18, 2018, 06:51:46 am
Felt for him tonight was running and closing everyone down then looked behind him to see the rest of his teammates stood on half way looking like they couldn't give a shit

   :that:
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: colincramb on April 18, 2018, 07:22:09 am
I think it's harsh calling Kiwomya a "lazy bas**rd". Wasn't his night tonight but I don't think he's lazy, I think he was either tired or just not mentally right to play tonight for some reason.

Anyway, this thread is about Marquis and he was brilliant again tonight. Clear Player of the Season for me.

He looked totally uninterested tonight and was lucky not to be brought off within 10 minutes of coming on. Goodness knows what was wrong with him.

Has anybody not thought that the terrible, almost career threatening illness that’s he’s had might still be having an effect on his fitness, overall game and confidence? I mean it’s not like he almost lost the ability to walk or anything is it? Jesus, our fans really can be stupid at times
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: Alickismyhero on April 18, 2018, 07:40:09 am
CC,

 I side with you on this. I watched him very closely at MKD's and he looked exhausted early in the 2nd half and in the last 15mins he should have been subbed if we had one left. He was unable to use his speed to beat the fullback, the boy has not fully recovered yet and he needs time.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: ctay on April 18, 2018, 08:58:45 am
Marquis gets better and better, we may face a challenge to keep him.

Kiwomya - we need to give him more time. He shows flashes, but he needs to get a pre season behind him. With the illness he had, we just need to be a bit patient (not a great trait for Rovers fans.

How Beestin got man of the match is beyond me, he was awful last night. However, the lad is talented and has come along way. He could be a big player for us next season.

I hope and pray Ferguson has a right back on his shopping list.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: Dare to dream! on April 18, 2018, 09:03:24 am
I’d be surprised if he is still with us next season
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: ctay on April 18, 2018, 09:12:09 am
Question, I was in the South but was it a penalty or not? I saw the sky highlights and I am still unsure. I was a long way from the incident, but it looked like Blair caught him.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: idler on April 18, 2018, 10:53:12 am
I wasn't sure from where I sit in the west stand but he did seem to fall rather than dive.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: chrisd_123 on April 18, 2018, 11:07:45 am
I think it's harsh calling Kiwomya a "lazy bas**rd". Wasn't his night tonight but I don't think he's lazy, I think he was either tired or just not mentally right to play tonight for some reason.

Anyway, this thread is about Marquis and he was brilliant again tonight. Clear Player of the Season for me.

He looked totally uninterested tonight and was lucky not to be brought off within 10 minutes of coming on. Goodness knows what was wrong with him.

The way he played last night when not pressing and people shouting at him, he kept looking over to the bench and I wondered if that's actually what Fergie wanted him to do and just stay on the right of midfield when they had the ball.

They scored once and threatened a couple of times on the break so it did look as if Fergie wanted to load the midfield to prevent that when out of possession.

Having said that, he's clearly not fit yet.

Easy to write him off but as has been said numerous times, he's had a career and potentially life threatening illness.

We're safe, we're not going to go up, so on Kiwomya, let's just get some perspective, let him get used to how Fergie wants him to play and then judge him next season with a full pre-season and fitness under his belt.

I too was frustrated with his performance last night but he alone wasn't the issue last night. But to call him a lazy b*****d is a tad harsh. He was clearly struggling. It's a cliche but let's give him a pre-season.

 
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: drfchound on April 18, 2018, 02:30:38 pm
I keep hearing this stuff about Kywomya not being physically ready to play yet.
Obviously he had had a serious illness but if he isn’t ready to play then he shouldn’t be on the pitch.
He looks lightweight and is too easily brushed off the ball and that lack of effort last night deserved the rocket he got from Marquis.

Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: scawsby steve on April 18, 2018, 04:51:40 pm
I keep hearing this stuff about Kywomya not being physically ready to play yet.
Obviously he had had a serious illness but if he isn’t ready to play then he shouldn’t be on the pitch.
He looks lightweight and is too easily brushed off the ball and that lack of effort last night deserved the rocket he got from Marquis.

I totally agree, Hound. For people to accuse us as being unsympathetic with the illness he's had is, quite frankly, insulting. If he's unfit he shouldn't be in the first team, he should be bolstering his fitness with the development team.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: roversdude on April 18, 2018, 05:58:41 pm
 :that:
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: The Red Baron on April 18, 2018, 06:14:23 pm
I keep hearing this stuff about Kywomya not being physically ready to play yet.
Obviously he had had a serious illness but if he isn’t ready to play then he shouldn’t be on the pitch.
He looks lightweight and is too easily brushed off the ball and that lack of effort last night deserved the rocket he got from Marquis.



That's my point. If he didn't feel physically able to play last night I'm sure the manager would have understood.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: scawsby steve on April 18, 2018, 06:57:20 pm
To get back to the subject of Marquis, good strikers are a rarity these days, and John has scored 41 in 2 seasons, with this season not even finished yet. I'm sorry for sounding pessimistic, but I've real fears about the vultures that will be circling above the Keepmoat in the summer.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: ZiggerZagger on April 18, 2018, 07:50:14 pm
Said at beginning of season I hope he has a " crash n burn season". There were a few championship clubs watching him closely and no doubt would be keeping an eye on him this season.
Unfortunately this season he has been even better for me, may not of scored as many goals but his all round game has improved massively. I said at one point he needed to be dropped as his game was all over the place, mainly because he was trying to do it all himself.Fergie needs to splash out on someone who can play with him and help him put the ball in the net because if the players keep doing what they were doing last night, I could see him departing to greener fields.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: chrisd_123 on April 18, 2018, 09:09:47 pm
To get back to the subject of Marquis, good strikers are a rarity these days, and John has scored 41 in 2 seasons, with this season not even finished yet. I'm sorry for sounding pessimistic, but I've real fears about the vultures that will be circling above the Keepmoat in the summer.

That will happen with a club like us unfortunately. But with 2 years left on his new deal, it'll take a decent fee to get him I'd hope.

And, what may work in our favour is he's been tried in the Championship, albeit fleetingly, and failed. My concern would be a Sunderland/Birmingham coming down picking him up.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: balbyrover on April 18, 2018, 09:50:31 pm
He’s been brilliant this season and last. A joy to watch and I really hope we can manage to keep hold of him.
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: RobTheRover on April 19, 2018, 01:08:53 pm
Marquis is shite  - I can't see any club being interested in him.

Yes.  He's garbage.  So overrated.

Nothing to see here, move along, move along....

;)
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: elmsallrover on April 19, 2018, 06:57:04 pm
Sooner have a half fit kywomya than a full fit may
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: keith79 on April 19, 2018, 08:37:03 pm
I think we will  get more money for marquis than we got for Billy. Just hope he doesn't have minimal fee clause in his contact
Title: Re: Marquis
Post by: drfchound on April 19, 2018, 09:29:27 pm
Marquis is a fantastic example of a 100% player.
I love his commitment and he has proved his goals weren’t a one season wonder.
I too fear that someone will offer him more money than we can match.