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Title: Pass or fail?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 17, 2018, 02:18:44 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-44153044

Shouldn’t these kids be given top marks for initiative and problem solving? And doesn’t this raise questions as to what we should be teaching kids and assessing them on? In the modern world, isn’t it more important to be able to find, assess and use information and to solve problems, rather than memorise things that technology can do for us?
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: Filo on May 17, 2018, 05:11:34 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-44153044

Shouldn’t these kids be given top marks for initiative and problem solving? And doesn’t this raise questions as to what we should be teaching kids and assessing them on? In the modern world, isn’t it more important to be able to find, assess and use information and to solve problems, rather than memorise things that technology can do for us?

Without a doubt, they are showing more common sense the the people teaching them
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on May 17, 2018, 06:40:27 pm
Fully agree. My accounting exams were pen and paper.  I think I've done it once in real life when systems failed.  Everything is computerised now.

Train kids in automation, programming etc.
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on May 17, 2018, 06:48:55 pm
Train kids in finding information, assessing it and using it to draw robust conclusions and solve problems. That is what we need if we are going to cope with the technological revolution.

Instead, Michael-f**king-Gove’s syllabus has got my kids memorising Henry the f**king VIII’s wives and being able to spot conditional sub-f**king-junctives in sentences. That’ll go a long way to helping us sort out the Brexit shambles he’s left us with.
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: wesisback on May 17, 2018, 08:52:29 pm
Those who forget the past are destined to have seven wives
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on May 17, 2018, 09:47:34 pm
It's balance surely you need a bit of everything including history?
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: turnbull for england on May 17, 2018, 09:55:28 pm
My 12 year old lads english homework tonight was to make a 3d model of a story he's done, two hours and no a word written or book read.
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on May 17, 2018, 10:08:56 pm
If Shakespeare was alive today he'd be turning in his grave.
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: pib on May 18, 2018, 08:54:45 am
My 12 year old lads english homework tonight was to make a 3d model of a story he's done, two hours and no a word written or book read.

I would've f*cking hated that. :laugh:
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: Sprotyrover on May 18, 2018, 03:02:20 pm
If Shakespeare were alive today he would be running about like a headless Chicken!
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: Bentley Bullet on May 18, 2018, 03:13:11 pm
He'd be no good on here, trying to uphold good old fashioned education values to the philistines among us.

If they had their way he'd be Bard.
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: bobjimwilly on May 19, 2018, 03:48:27 pm
He'd be no good on here, trying to uphold good old fashioned education values to the philistines among us.

If they had their way he'd be Bard.

*barred
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: darren61 on May 19, 2018, 04:01:38 pm
WHOOSH!!!!
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: NickDRFC on May 21, 2018, 09:35:21 pm
He'd be no good on here, trying to uphold good old fashioned education values to the philistines among us.

If they had their way he'd be Bard.

*barred

Quite a fitting error given the title of this thread!
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: drfchound on May 22, 2018, 11:44:53 am
He'd be no good on here, trying to uphold good old fashioned education values to the philistines among us.

If they had their way he'd be Bard.

*barred

Quite a fitting error given the title of this thread!





Error?
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: bobjimwilly on May 22, 2018, 01:16:24 pm
I forgot how hard it is to portray sarcasm on here... maybe I should've included an emoji...
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: RoversAlias on May 22, 2018, 02:41:45 pm
Not sure how you intended sarcasm Rob, just seems like an innocent oversight on your part in the face of Bentley's pun, no shame in owning up  :P
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: bobjimwilly on May 22, 2018, 03:16:49 pm
I understood the wordplay, I was being deliberately obtuse, but I can see how that looks like I didn't "get it"
Title: Re: Pass or fail?
Post by: Geoff Blakesley on May 22, 2018, 06:00:38 pm
I have been a GCSE Physics examiner for over 20 years. I couldn't believe it when having to remember formulae was reintroduced for this year's examinations. We rely on rote learning more than any other country in Europe. As has been said any jerk can remember a formula - it can be looked up in seconds if needed. What you understand about applying it is what matters.