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Viking Chat => Off Topic => Topic started by: bpoolrover on May 27, 2018, 02:31:07 am
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See he got arrested the other day for filming outside a grooming trial,he obviously goes looking for trouble, but not sure arresting him is the right thing to do?
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Was he filming anywhere near the majority of trials where the accused is white by any chance?
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Making a martyr of these kind of cretins moves nothing forward though.
I'd rather just see him humiliated every time he gets interviewed by anyone with half a brain cell.
I never thought I'd see the day when I was willing Piers Morgan on but his appearance on Good Morning Britain was a pleasant surprise.
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He's a Kitson. He knew full well what he was doing. He's under a suspended sentence, which he breached by filming outside the trial and potentially infringing on the defendant's right to be innocent until proven guilty. Even for horrific crimes like this, you have to have that. But of course, he gets to play his free speech card. Did you know you can support Tommy Robinson's quest for free speech by donating to him or by buying his book? Almost as if he engineers these situations to publicise himself.
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I see he's gone down for contempt of court today. Great darts that, Tommy.
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While your right do you think anyone from the BBC should get done for the cliff Richard episode?
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From what I’ve heard of it, both the BBC and the police behaved deplorably over Cliff Richard. If they have broken the law then yes, they should receive the appropriate punishment. If they haven’t actually broken the law, they should have disciplinary procedures taken against them by their employers and quite probably, be sacked.
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Having looked at this Tommy Robinson scenario some more, he actually got whats coming to him and pleaded guilty as a result.
Along with that Britain First pair its good to see another hate preacher off our streets.
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I don't think the situations are necessarily comparable as Tommy boy is one bloke who was under a suspended sentence to begin with, whereas the BBC are obviously a corporation. Also covering a police raid is very different to broadcasting outside a court while there's a strict reporting ban in place for good reason. Obviously though SYP shouldn't have passed his information on to the BBC before that point though, and he's already got a settlement from SYP and will probably get some damages from the Beeb too. So I'd say Cliff Richard is in the process of getting his "justice" now.
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Let's give Robinson an unfair trial to see how loud he squeals.
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Just drove through Plzen on the way to the zoo and scrawled under a bridge is ‘free Tommy Robinson’ - his infamy is widespread
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I’m not a big fan of tommy Robinson but not sure the sentence fits the crime, on the video he asked the police if he could film they said yes, all the defendants were listed in the court lists so anyone could find out who they were. So not quite sure why he got so long, saying that I don’t agree with his methods
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I don't think the situations are necessarily comparable as Tommy boy is one bloke who was under a suspended sentence to begin with, whereas the BBC are obviously a corporation. Also covering a police raid is very different to broadcasting outside a court while there's a strict reporting ban in place for good reason. Obviously though SYP shouldn't have passed his information on to the BBC before that point though, and he's already got a settlement from SYP and will probably get some damages from the Beeb too. So I'd say Cliff Richard is in the process of getting his "justice" now.
Having looked at this Tommy Robinson scenario some more, he actually got whats coming to him and pleaded guilty as a result.
Along with that Britain First pair its good to see another hate preacher off our streets.
How is he an hate preacher if he is just reporting news on a suspected grooming gang
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You don't see him "reporting" on any white paedos do you? Including ones that happen to be members of the EDL. He knew full well what he was doing.
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Bpool
The sentence doesn’t necessarily match THIS crime. Robinson had a suspended sentence for previous offences. I’m guessing that a condition on his sentence suspension wasthat he didn’t commit any other crimes.
He committed a crime. He triggered the earlier sentence.
But then I’m sure he knew that. And wanted that result. Because there has been a concerted, global publicity campaign to convince folk that poor Tommy (or should we call him by his birth name: Stephen Yaxley-Lennon?) is a martyr.
Anyone who believes that is being had.
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His birth name was Stephen Yaxley. The Lennon came later. ;)
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I’m not a big fan of tommy Robinson but not sure the sentence fits the crime, on the video he asked the police if he could film they said yes, all the defendants were listed in the court lists so anyone could find out who they were. So not quite sure why he got so long, saying that I don’t agree with his methods
https://thesecretbarrister.com/2018/05/25/what-has-happened-to-poor-tommy-robinson/
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You don't see him "reporting" on any white paedos do you? Including ones that happen to be members of the EDL. He knew full well what he was doing.
BBC News did a survey in 2017 and found 87% of grooming gangs appear to be Asian, White pedos tend to operate alone. Was Robinson aware of any white gangs during his reign or after, send me a link if you can i would be interested in that bit of research if you have it at hand.
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I'd be interested in seeing that, as most of the data on sex offences like this tends to be inconsistent. What is clear is that there's a massive trend towards sex offenders being white. That's not surprising as Britain is a predominantly white country. However, the fact that the data is so inconsistent depending on what study you look at means people tend to pick and choose the ones that support their argument, as Mr Yaxley-Lennon-cum-Robinson does all the time.
https://fullfact.org/crime/what-do-we-know-about-ethnicity-people-involved-sexual-offences-against-children/
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I meant the bit where you purport in saying about the pedos or the main subject of groomng and gangs which are members of the EDL. Thats the info im interested in.
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/race-hate-thug-who-chanted-7916756
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/28/paige-chivers-murder-robert-ewing-sentenced-life-imprisonment
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/edl-english-defence-league-leigh-mcmillan-jailed-paedophile-old-bailey-a8231231.html
https://lancasteruaf.blogspot.com/2011/01/far-right-hero-is-convicted-paedophile.html
Here's Tommy's opinions on that last bloke: “Richard Price had his house unfairly raided by West Midlands Police.
“They informed him that they had found five photographs of children on the computer. Price has no idea how they were on his computer.”
Somehow I doubt he was reporting on any of them from outside the courtroom.
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How did Tommy explain away Price pleading guilty?
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You don't see him "reporting" on any white paedos do you? Including ones that happen to be members of the EDL. He knew full well what he was doing.
BBC News did a survey in 2017 and found 87% of grooming gangs appear to be Asian, White pedos tend to operate alone. Was Robinson aware of any white gangs during his reign or after, send me a link if you can i would be interested in that bit of research if you have it at hand.
Aye, bloody Asians, can't even do their noncing by themselves.
It's almost as if you're trying to make out by being lone wolf paedophiles that's in some way better? :laugh:
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I wish I knew who Tommy Robinson is! Guess I'll have to do a bit of research
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They’re not very good drivers either. About 5 years ago were involved in 70% of claims.
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Absolutely f**king abhorrent and sickening how Tommy is in prison for reporting on the rape and grooming of children, and yet the very pedo monsters he reported on are free.
Something is very very wrong there, and I suspect its to do with the deep state liberalist globalist agenda.
Free Tommy
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Not saying they should be free but no one was allowed to report on the cases because there was numerous related cases going on and they didn't want anything swaying them, so the racist should be punished.
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Absolutely f**king abhorrent and sickening how Tommy is in prison for reporting on the rape and grooming of children, and yet the very pedo monsters he reported on are free.
Something is very very wrong there, and I suspect its to do with the deep state liberalist globalist agenda.
Free Tommy
If he'd 'reported' somewhere away from the Courthouse so that he wasn't publicly broadcasting not only the defendants but the members of the jury he wouldn't be in prison now. He knew what he was doing, I've got no sympathy. He's not in prison for the reporting but holding the court in contempt by doing what he did, so don't try and make out it was some sort of suppression of freedom of speech b*llocks.
PS Funny how you repeatedly spouted 'innocent until proven guilty' in the Trump thread, but you've already decided that these defendants are guilty. :silly:
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I suspect its to do with the deep state liberalist globalist agenda.
Hello? Hello? Is that the Alt-Right Gobshite Bingo Hotline? Yeah? I've got a line.
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Robinson is a prick and should be in prison
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4 replies, 4 different posters, a few childish comments, but not 1 valid argument.. Pathetic.
Or perhaps its because there isn't an argument.
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Explaining his contempt of court that's put him in prison isn't a valid argument? Jesus wept.
As for childish comments, how about the one saying people who haven't been found guilty of anything should be locked up? Or don't you believe your own 'innocent till proved guilty' mantra any more?
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Ever wondered why Mr Yaxley-Lennon is so interested in sex-offenders. Look at the company he keeps
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2019/01/21/2019-far-right-sex-offenders-update/
The argument being - why has he not publicised these people?
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Stephen Yaxley-Lennon gets paid to do shit like this by his right wing sponsors.
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4 replies, 4 different posters, a few childish comments, but not 1 valid argument.. Pathetic.
Or perhaps its because there isn't an argument.
Oh f**king hell! Sorry! You were being serious? I hadn't realised.
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4 replies, 4 different posters, a few childish comments, but not 1 valid argument.. Pathetic.
Or perhaps its because there isn't an argument.
Oh f**king hell! Sorry! You were being serious? I hadn't realised.
Like I said....
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Explaining his contempt of court that's put him in prison isn't a valid argument? Jesus wept.
As for childish comments, how about the one saying people who haven't been found guilty of anything should be locked up? Or don't you believe your own 'innocent till proved guilty' mantra any more?
Your gonna have to repeat that wiggerly, perhaps with a bit more thought in what your writing.
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4 replies, 4 different posters, a few childish comments, but not 1 valid argument.. Pathetic.
Or perhaps its because there isn't an argument.
Oh f**king hell! Sorry! You were being serious? I hadn't realised.
Like I said....
Well, let's think.
Yaxley-Lennon gets sent down for repeatedly committing contempt of court in order to whip up the bile of idiots who are easily whipped up?
Meanwhile, the wheels of British justice (which have already dealt with several paedophile rings, of different ethnic/religious backgrounds) crank on to a conclusion.
I'm sorry. I've lost what your point was. Remind me.
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Explaining his contempt of court that's put him in prison isn't a valid argument? Jesus wept.
As for childish comments, how about the one saying people who haven't been found guilty of anything should be locked up? Or don't you believe your own 'innocent till proved guilty' mantra any more?
Your gonna have to repeat that wiggerly, perhaps with a bit more thought in what your writing.
Sorry, I've wasted enough of my time trying to spoonfeed your brain as it is. Read this instead.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-contempt-court-case-grooming-gang-trial-huddersfield-a8990436.html
Now then, just who are these people that you say that are still free that should have been locked up with Tommy Twonames?
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See he got arrested the other day for filming outside a grooming trial,he obviously goes looking for trouble, but not sure arresting him is the right thing to do?
So BP and BS an open thread with lots of links showing that Y-L pretty much deliberately defied a court order and jeopardised a trial that was bringing a grooming gang to trial and justice and for what to prove that he cares for those vulnerable within our society or to bolster his credentials within his own fan club. The links have also shown that he is selective with whom he judges to be 'guilty' by ignoring those of his tribe that choose a similar path to the grooming gangs.
I don't recall anything I read here or on the links that showed any support for these vile gangs and yet if Y-S had been allowed to complete his self appointed task he may have caused a retrial and denied the victims the justice for them he claimed he wanted.
Re Y-S, have you been swayed by the information supplied, do you still think that arresting him was not warranted, do you still think he has been unfairly treated?
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BS - read that link Glyn posted. He very nearly caused the case to collapse entirely. Imagine that - these scumbags almost walked free because of your mate Tommeh. But hey, that'd be worth it as long as you get to trigger the lefties, right?
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There's some bad news for you guys. It looks like he could become our next manager.
Oops, sorry; it's Stephen Robinson.
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Just a quick bit of news to brighten your morning. Tommy Robinson begging Trump to grant him asylum in the USA. You couldn't make it up.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-trump-asylum-us-infowars-alex-jones-contempt-case-a8996166.html
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Just a quick bit of news to brighten your morning. Tommy Robinson begging Trump to grant him asylum in the USA. You couldn't make it up.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-trump-asylum-us-infowars-alex-jones-contempt-case-a8996166.html
Lol. There's only one thing that has been lost Tommy and that is your sanity.
Such a charismatic guy full of leadership potential.... But he's gone down a bad path and he keeps doubling down on an indefensible position.
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''Robinson has accumulated several criminal convictions and has served three prison sentences. His criminal record includes convictions for violence, financial and immigration frauds, drug possession, public order offences, and contempt of court.[27][28][29] He has served at least three separate custodial sentences: in 2005 for assault, in 2012 for using false travel documents to enter the United States, and in 2014 for mortgage fraud.[14][17][5] In May 2018, Robinson was sentenced to 13 months' imprisonment for contempt of court after publishing a Facebook Live video of defendants entering a law court, contravening a court order that disallows reporting on such trials while proceedings are ongoing. On 1 August 2018, due to procedural errors, he was released on bail pending a new hearing of the case.[30] On 5 July 2019, Robinson was again found guilty of contempt of court at the retrial and is to be sentenced at a later date''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist)
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Why wasn't he jailed for that attack on a bloke outside the England game in Portugal.
The man is scum, and by association anyone defending him is too in my eyes.
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Why wasn't he jailed for that attack on a bloke outside the England game in Portugal.
The man is scum, and by association anyone defending him is too in my eyes.
You mean the one where he blindsided the poor t**t? The attack of choice of the f**king coward.
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Why wasn't he jailed for that attack on a bloke outside the England game in Portugal.
The man is scum, and by association anyone defending him is too in my eyes.
This one?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9243419/tommy-robinson-punch-england-fan-portugal/
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Why wasn't he jailed for that attack on a bloke outside the England game in Portugal.
The man is scum, and by association anyone defending him is too in my eyes.
It happened in Portugal, and they were probably only too glad to get the pathetic shit out of their country tout suite.
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Why wasn't he jailed for that attack on a bloke outside the England game in Portugal.
The man is scum, and by association anyone defending him is too in my eyes.
It happened in Portugal, and they were probably only too glad to get the pathetic shit out of their country tout suite.
Too sweet indeed GW.
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Here's some detail on Yaxley-Lennon's trial..
https://bylinetimes.com/2019/07/09/the-trials-of-tommy-robinson-how-yaxley-lennon-was-always-going-to-be-convicted/
The deep-state, Liberal, globalist agenda here is terrifying. It looks like this has been planned from the start. They obviously planned it by interfering in Yaxley-Lennon's education, distracting him during those bits where the rest of us learn how to put forward rational arguments without making a f**king bell-end of yourself.
I particularly like the bit where he explains what his defence is, then in the next breath says that the person whose opinion he's relying on for that is a liar.
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
Aw bless. You actually believe the lying scrote.
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
Aw bless. You actually believe the lying scrote.
I suggest you do the same, it might wake you up, and you might start questioning the bullshit the establishment feeds you.
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Having worked in a Prison he can quite easily get himself somwwhere safe,they will ask him if he is a fascist,homophobic,yes, yes, then gets a nice quiet cell to himself.if he wants more peasce and quiet he can boil up a cup of sugar/water and chuck it over another inmate.
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BS
That "obscure, biased website" is just reporting facts that are in the public domain. You on the other hand, are quoting what Yaxley-Lennon claims to be facts. But, see, given his extensive track record of...how to put it...making shit up, I'll choose to ignore what he claims. I suggest you do the same. For what it's worth, I've read plenty of what he's claimed to have happened over the years. Fortunately, I won't have to do that for a while.
I'll give you decent odds he comes out of prison not dead. In any case, he's got the outcome that he must have expected. Unless he is pigshit thick (and I'm sure he isn't) he knew full well what he was doing and the consequences of that.
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
Aw bless. You actually believe the lying scrote.
I suggest you do the same, it might wake you up, and you might start questioning the bullshit the establishment feeds you.
Do you question the bullshit Tommy Twonames spouts? It doesn't look like it. As for me, I tend not to believe someone who is happy to come up with lies so feeble they are taken apart with ease when under oath in a criminal trial. if he's happy to lie to a criminal court like that he'll have absolutely no compunction at all in lying to people like you who will lap it all up and not question anything he says.
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
Aw bless. You actually believe the lying scrote.
I suggest you do the same, it might wake you up, and you might start questioning the bullshit the establishment feeds you.
When serving his most recent stretch at Her Majesty's Pleasure Yaxley-Lennon was initally sent to HMP Hull - 7% Muslim population. He was then transferred to HMP Olney - 30% Muslim. It's a strange world we live in where 30% constitutes a majority.
In fact it would be a strange world we lived in if Mr Y-L had served time in any prison with a Muslim majority - it certainly wouldn't be in this country as no prison in the UK has a majority Muslim population.
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I just think that apart from anything else his whole demeanour when explaining his actions when punching the other lad was stage managed.
He is just a rabble rouser and deserves to rot in prison. He could never negotiate with anyone offering a different opinion or viewpoint. He will always try to manipulate facts to suit his agenda. He's not worth the time of day to any right minded person.
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
Boomdick , keep of the spice!
He is an odious Kitson and I really hope his anus gets enlarged in prison
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Just a quick bit of news to brighten your morning. Tommy Robinson begging Trump to grant him asylum in the USA. You couldn't make it up.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-trump-asylum-us-infowars-alex-jones-contempt-case-a8996166.html
Lol. There's only one thing that has been lost Tommy and that is your sanity.
Such a charismatic guy full of leadership potential.... But he's gone down a bad path and he keeps doubling down on an indefensible position.
Such a charismatic guy?? He appeals to lumps of lard,gammon and no more than that.
Did you see the low life/ scum protesting outside the court? They had slightly more teeth than brain cells. I hope he goes through hell inside
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
Aw bless. You actually believe the lying scrote.
I suggest you do the same, it might wake you up, and you might start questioning the bullshit the establishment feeds you.
When serving his most recent stretch at Her Majesty's Pleasure Yaxley-Lennon was initally sent to HMP Hull - 7% Muslim population. He was then transferred to HMP Olney - 30% Muslim. It's a strange world we live in where 30% constitutes a majority.
In fact it would be a strange world we lived in if Mr Y-L had served time in any prison with a Muslim majority - it certainly wouldn't be in this country as no prison in the UK has a majority Muslim population.
OK so not majority, but a very significant increase.
Still baffling in the extreme.
As for finding a safe place in prison, its exactly what he had to do, solitary confinement for 23.5 hours a day, which amounts to psychological torture.
The question remains, why did they do this?
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
Aw bless. You actually believe the lying scrote.
I suggest you do the same, it might wake you up, and you might start questioning the bullshit the establishment feeds you.
When serving his most recent stretch at Her Majesty's Pleasure Yaxley-Lennon was initally sent to HMP Hull - 7% Muslim population. He was then transferred to HMP Olney - 30% Muslim. It's a strange world we live in where 30% constitutes a majority.
In fact it would be a strange world we lived in if Mr Y-L had served time in any prison with a Muslim majority - it certainly wouldn't be in this country as no prison in the UK has a majority Muslim population.
OK so not majority, but a very significant increase.
Still baffling in the extreme.
As for finding a safe place in prison, its exactly what he had to do, solitary confinement for 23.5 hours a day, which amounts to psychological torture.
The question remains, why did they do this?
Because he's a thick Kitson that deserves it
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Having worked in a Prison he can quite easily get himself somwwhere safe,they will ask him if he is a fascist,homophobic,yes, yes, then gets a nice quiet cell to himself.if he wants more peasce and quiet he can boil up a cup of sugar/water and chuck it over another inmate.
Homophobic? Any evidence?
As for being a fascist, that's laughable I suggest you read up on the meaning of fascism, and also about the political spectrum.
Tommy Robinson is a huge advocate of free speech, something fascists hate.
He's far from a fascist.
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
Aw bless. You actually believe the lying scrote.
I suggest you do the same, it might wake you up, and you might start questioning the bullshit the establishment feeds you.
When serving his most recent stretch at Her Majesty's Pleasure Yaxley-Lennon was initally sent to HMP Hull - 7% Muslim population. He was then transferred to HMP Olney - 30% Muslim. It's a strange world we live in where 30% constitutes a majority.
In fact it would be a strange world we lived in if Mr Y-L had served time in any prison with a Muslim majority - it certainly wouldn't be in this country as no prison in the UK has a majority Muslim population.
OK so not majority, but a very significant increase.
Still baffling in the extreme.
As for finding a safe place in prison, its exactly what he had to do, solitary confinement for 23.5 hours a day, which amounts to psychological torture.
The question remains, why did they do this?
Because he's a thick Kitson that deserves it
Another childish comment....
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His number 2 got done fir Judy fiddling,but hat a beard not Asian so,excusable.
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
Aw bless. You actually believe the lying scrote.
I suggest you do the same, it might wake you up, and you might start questioning the bullshit the establishment feeds you.
When serving his most recent stretch at Her Majesty's Pleasure Yaxley-Lennon was initally sent to HMP Hull - 7% Muslim population. He was then transferred to HMP Olney - 30% Muslim. It's a strange world we live in where 30% constitutes a majority.
In fact it would be a strange world we lived in if Mr Y-L had served time in any prison with a Muslim majority - it certainly wouldn't be in this country as no prison in the UK has a majority Muslim population.
OK so not majority, but a very significant increase.
Still baffling in the extreme.
As for finding a safe place in prison, its exactly what he had to do, solitary confinement for 23.5 hours a day, which amounts to psychological torture.
The question remains, why did they do this?
Because he's a thick Kitson that deserves it
Another childish comment....
Enlighten me with something mature
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Just a quick bit of news to brighten your morning. Tommy Robinson begging Trump to grant him asylum in the USA. You couldn't make it up.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-trump-asylum-us-infowars-alex-jones-contempt-case-a8996166.html
Lol. There's only one thing that has been lost Tommy and that is your sanity.
Such a charismatic guy full of leadership potential.... But he's gone down a bad path and he keeps doubling down on an indefensible position.
Are you serious? He's a racist who goes round intimidating people and assaulting people in the street.
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Having worked in a Prison he can quite easily get himself somwwhere safe,they will ask him if he is a fascist,homophobic,yes, yes, then gets a nice quiet cell to himself.if he wants more peasce and quiet he can boil up a cup of sugar/water and chuck it over another inmate.
Homophobic? Any evidence?
As for being a fascist, that's laughable I suggest you read up on the meaning of fascism, and also about the political spectrum.
Tommy Robinson is a huge advocate of free speech, something fascists hate.
He's far from a fascist.
So on these rallies that he goes to, why does he surround himself with known football hooligans with links to BNP, Combat 18, NF etc?
He IS a racist, he's just trying to dress it up as journalism.
And for your information, type 1 grooming gangs convicted are mainly Asian.
Type 2 Peadophile rings convicted (actual abusers) are British white males.
Both groups f**kin dangerous and deserve hanging but why does your hero just go after the Asian gangs?
Why not the British white males that are actually the recipients of the Asian gangs activities?
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Having worked in a Prison he can quite easily get himself somwwhere safe,they will ask him if he is a fascist,homophobic,yes, yes, then gets a nice quiet cell to himself.if he wants more peasce and quiet he can boil up a cup of sugar/water and chuck it over another inmate.
Homophobic? Any evidence?
As for being a fascist, that's laughable I suggest you read up on the meaning of fascism, and also about the political spectrum.
Tommy Robinson is a huge advocate of free speech, something fascists hate.
He's far from a fascist.
If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why is he moaning about what the media reports about him? :silly:
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
Aw bless. You actually believe the lying scrote.
I suggest you do the same, it might wake you up, and you might start questioning the bullshit the establishment feeds you.
When serving his most recent stretch at Her Majesty's Pleasure Yaxley-Lennon was initally sent to HMP Hull - 7% Muslim population. He was then transferred to HMP Olney - 30% Muslim. It's a strange world we live in where 30% constitutes a majority.
In fact it would be a strange world we lived in if Mr Y-L had served time in any prison with a Muslim majority - it certainly wouldn't be in this country as no prison in the UK has a majority Muslim population.
OK so not majority, but a very significant increase.
Still baffling in the extreme.
As for finding a safe place in prison, its exactly what he had to do, solitary confinement for 23.5 hours a day, which amounts to psychological torture.
The question remains, why did they do this?
"They" didn't do anything. He did. He spouts his bile and moans like hell when he gets jailed for breaking the law. And pricks lap it up.
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I would think it’s about money he no doubt makes a decent amount of cash having so many followers on you tube
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Yaxley - Lennon thugs protect the right to free speech by smashing up an anti - Brexit protest.
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Steve & our other friends are safe, thank goodness.
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You can imagine what sort of free speech we would have if these Nazi wannabees got a sniff of power.
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Having worked in a Prison he can quite easily get himself somwwhere safe,they will ask him if he is a fascist,homophobic,yes, yes, then gets a nice quiet cell to himself.if he wants more peasce and quiet he can boil up a cup of sugar/water and chuck it over another inmate.
Homophobic? Any evidence?
As for being a fascist, that's laughable I suggest you read up on the meaning of fascism, and also about the political spectrum.
Tommy Robinson is a huge advocate of free speech, something fascists hate.
He's far from a fascist.
If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why is he moaning about what the media reports about him? :silly:
because they quote his deliberately out of context, and cut his interviews to make him look worse
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
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Having worked in a Prison he can quite easily get himself somwwhere safe,they will ask him if he is a fascist,homophobic,yes, yes, then gets a nice quiet cell to himself.if he wants more peasce and quiet he can boil up a cup of sugar/water and chuck it over another inmate.
Homophobic? Any evidence?
As for being a fascist, that's laughable I suggest you read up on the meaning of fascism, and also about the political spectrum.
Tommy Robinson is a huge advocate of free speech, something fascists hate.
He's far from a fascist.
If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why is he moaning about what the media reports about him? :silly:
because they quote his deliberately out of context, and cut his interviews to make him look worse
That's impossible,he's as thick as a plank of wood.
Doesn't say a great deal about the the people who admire him. They are stupid,brainless sheep.
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Having worked in a Prison he can quite easily get himself somwwhere safe,they will ask him if he is a fascist,homophobic,yes, yes, then gets a nice quiet cell to himself.if he wants more peasce and quiet he can boil up a cup of sugar/water and chuck it over another inmate.
Homophobic? Any evidence?
As for being a fascist, that's laughable I suggest you read up on the meaning of fascism, and also about the political spectrum.
Tommy Robinson is a huge advocate of free speech, something fascists hate.
He's far from a fascist.
If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why is he moaning about what the media reports about him? :silly:
because they quote his deliberately out of context, and cut his interviews to make him look worse
That's impossible,he's as thick as a plank of wood.
Doesn't say a great deal about the the people who admire him. They are stupid,brainless sheep.
That is a slur on sheep.😳🐑🐏
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Having worked in a Prison he can quite easily get himself somwwhere safe,they will ask him if he is a fascist,homophobic,yes, yes, then gets a nice quiet cell to himself.if he wants more peasce and quiet he can boil up a cup of sugar/water and chuck it over another inmate.
Homophobic? Any evidence?
As for being a fascist, that's laughable I suggest you read up on the meaning of fascism, and also about the political spectrum.
Tommy Robinson is a huge advocate of free speech, something fascists hate.
He's far from a fascist.
If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why is he moaning about what the media reports about him? :silly:
because they quote his deliberately out of context, and cut his interviews to make him look worse
He had free rein to give his version of accounts in court and he still lied through his teeth. Was that out of context? His problem is that he's not a good liar, he's shit at it which is why everybody uses their right to free speech to tell everyone about his lies.
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
Ever asked Tommy for evidence to back up his bullshit or do you just swallow it whole without a squeak?
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
Baa,baa. Apologises to all sheep.
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:lol: looks like the left wing liberalists can't back up their lies. As per usual
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
Baa,baa. Apologises to all sheep.
Mature, your doing you agenda no favours
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html)
Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.
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:lol: looks like the left wing liberalists can't back up their lies. As per usual
Us left wing liberalists have jobs to do x
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html)
Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.
Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
Baa,baa. Apologises to all sheep.
Mature, your doing you agenda no favours
Boomdick. You have never backed up any of your ramblings with anything mature
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If you sympathise with Steven YL, I hope you woke up with a sore bumhole too this morning. That would be solidarity
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html)
Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.
Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x
Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html)
Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.
Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x
Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.
Evidence?
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Having worked in a Prison he can quite easily get himself somwwhere safe,they will ask him if he is a fascist,homophobic,yes, yes, then gets a nice quiet cell to himself.if he wants more peasce and quiet he can boil up a cup of sugar/water and chuck it over another inmate.
Homophobic? Any evidence?
As for being a fascist, that's laughable I suggest you read up on the meaning of fascism, and also about the political spectrum.
Tommy Robinson is a huge advocate of free speech, something fascists hate.
He's far from a fascist.
If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why is he moaning about what the media reports about him? :silly:
because they quote his deliberately out of context, and cut his interviews to make him look worse
If the media have been telling lies about him, Tommy Twonames has every right to sue them for libel. In fact it'd be fantastic publicity for him, repeatedly winning libel cases against the evil distorting liberal conspiracy.
How many has he sued so far?
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html)
Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.
Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x
Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.
Evidence?
This.
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html)
Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.
Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x
Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.
Evidence?
This.
Have a look at the tweets from the very journo who wrote the article you linked to.
Said journo openly admits it in his tweets.
Funny how he doesn't mention it in his article though.
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html)
Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.
Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x
Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.
Evidence?
This.
Have a look at the tweets from the very journo who wrote the article you linked to.
Said journo openly admits it in his tweets.
Funny how he doesn't mention it in his article though.
Lizzie Dearden or The Secret Barrister?
Not that it matters to me, I don't use twitter - never have - so can't look anybody up.
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html)
Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.
Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x
Funny how you fail to Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.
You can not educate pork. So when it comes to gammon we dont have a f**king prayer
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html)
Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.
Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x
Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.
Evidence?
This.
Have a look at the tweets from the very journo who wrote the article you linked to.
Said journo openly admits it in his tweets.
Funny how he doesn't mention it in his article though.
Lizzie Dearden or The Secret Barrister?
Not that it matters to me, I don't use twitter - never have - so can't look anybody up.
Mike stuchbery, a very quick and easy Google will lead you to his tweets.
You don't need a twitter account.
I think alot on here base their opinions on Tommy Robinson on articles in the guardian and Independant.
I'm offering balance. Tommy Robinson is very misunderstood
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If he's such a huge advocate of free speech, why has he turned up at people's houses at 5am numerous times with a number of his henchman to intimidate people who report about him? :silly:
Evidence?
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-mike-stuchberry-door-knock-far-right-intimidation-a8808311.html)
Here's one. He's done it loads of times so feel free to Google or YouTube for yourself.
Oh and he records himself doing it before you deny it x
Funny how you fail to mention that it was in response to the filming and publishing of a legal letter delivered to Tommy Robinsons House.
Said journalist used intimidatory tactics anainst Tommy Robinson and his family, and published where he lives. Leaving him wide open to attacks from the fascist left.
Evidence?
This.
Have a look at the tweets from the very journo who wrote the article you linked to.
Said journo openly admits it in his tweets.
Funny how he doesn't mention it in his article though.
Lizzie Dearden or The Secret Barrister?
Not that it matters to me, I don't use twitter - never have - so can't look anybody up.
Mike stuchbery, a very quick and easy Google will lead you to his tweets.
You don't need a twitter account.
I think alot on here base their opinions on Tommy Robinson on articles in the guardian and Independant.
I'm offering balance. Tommy Robinson is very misunderstood
I've never linked anything by Mike Stuchbery.
I have no idea how to use twitter and no inclination to find out. Besides, it's your evidence, you source it, don't tell other people to bugger off and find it for you.
As for balance, I've just been reading this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48942411
I'd love for you to point out the lies and/or misunderstandings in it.
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I read that too, just waiting for BS to accuse the BBC of leftie bias..
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I read that too, just waiting for BS to accuse the BBC of leftie bias..
Obviously it's a very big conspiracy. I'll assume it includes everybody who doesn't immediately believe Tommy's lies.
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Explain why when they got him previously for completely unrelated mortgage fraud, they put him in a safe majority white prison.
Then the decision was made move him to a majority Muslim prison, (WTF)!) but not only that his cell was near the prison mosque, and jihadi Muslims walked passed his cell every day and tried to attack him.
When he asked the prison govener why this was, the answer was "its come from above".
Tommy Robinson was extremely lucky to come out alive.
They want him silenced, I would be very surprised if he comes out alive this time.
I suggest you read about his conviction, police harassment, and his time in prison.
Instead of linking to some obscure biased website, you may learn something.
However the time for trying to stop making a f**king bell end of YOURSELF has long passed.
Aw bless. You actually believe the lying scrote.
I suggest you do the same, it might wake you up, and you might start questioning the bullshit the establishment feeds you.
When serving his most recent stretch at Her Majesty's Pleasure Yaxley-Lennon was initally sent to HMP Hull - 7% Muslim population. He was then transferred to HMP Olney - 30% Muslim. It's a strange world we live in where 30% constitutes a majority.
In fact it would be a strange world we lived in if Mr Y-L had served time in any prison with a Muslim majority - it certainly wouldn't be in this country as no prison in the UK has a majority Muslim population.
OK so not majority, but a very significant increase.
Still baffling in the extreme.
As for finding a safe place in prison, its exactly what he had to do, solitary confinement for 23.5 hours a day, which amounts to psychological torture.
The question remains, why did they do this?
HMP Hull is a Catergory B Prison - HMP Olney is a Catergory C Prison, so presumably he was moved because the authorities thought he would benefit from a more open prison closer to his home.
He was never in solitary confinement. He did spend a small amount of time in the Care & Rehabilitation Unit whilst the authorities assessed the risk to his safety. This however was when he first arrived at HMP Hull. The one with the 98% non-Muslim population.
These things are very easy to check.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/tommy-robinson-i-lost-40lb-1857867
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tommy-robinson-lost-40lb-prison-13025119?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_main&_ga=2.101129857.163864266.1562949075-58243389.1492887970
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But it's all been taken out of context!!! :silly:
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I base my opinion on him having a false name and a few hundred racists following him.
Imagine in Doncaster,similar,some bellednd calls himself Archie,,Cheny. Or Boomstsick
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I base my opinion on him having a false name and a few hundred racists following him.
Imagine in Doncaster,similar,some bellednd calls himself Archie,,Cheny. Or Boomstsick
It's fake news you racist kitson
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I base my opinion on him having a false name and a few hundred racists following him.
Imagine in Doncaster,similar,some bellednd calls himself Archie,,Cheny. Or Boomstsick
It's fake news you racist kitson
Dat awkward moment when you call yourself a racist.
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Funny how lefty fascists refuse point blank to acknowledge or read evidence put to them.
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Funny how lefty fascists refuse point blank to acknowledge or read evidence put to them.
You haven't linked anything. Why should we spoon feed you but you give us nothing?
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Funny how lefty fascists refuse point blank to acknowledge or read evidence put to them.
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What evidence? I haven't seen any. Still waiting for you to refute the BBC though. Surely it must be so full of lies you can point out a few very easily. Unless you can't, of course, because there aren't any lies in it. Your silence would confirm that for me.
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Who’s a lefty fascist.?
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It's how the world works now isn't it?
You reject anything that criticises what you want to believe, no matter how authoritative and well researched. You accept anything that supports what you want to believe, no matter how f**king batshit.
The internet was supposed to be the Great Developer. It was supposed to be a way of extending the access to objective truth to the whole world. It was supposed to let people find facts then decide what they believed from a position of knowledge.
Instead it's gone the opposite way. Folk decide what they want to believe, then grub around to find something, anything that supports it. And ignore anything that contradicts it.
It's gone turbocharged with Trump of course. Now you don't even need to be ashamed at ignoring stuff that contradicts you. Ignoring it is a mark of strength because you're fighting against the Dark Forces that want to mislead you.
God f**king help us.
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Funny how lefty fascists refuse point blank to acknowledge or read evidence put to them.
You can't be a lefty facist.
Facism is a right-wing political philosophy. Among its characteristics are a positive view of violence, intolerance of minorities, attacks on liberalism and toleration and promotion of a dictatorial leader. Or to put more simply - that sort of stuff Stephen Yaxley-Lennon promotes in his videos you pay for.
Again these things are easy to check
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
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And what gives YOU more right to reject anything that criticises what you want to believe? Everyone chooses to believe what they want to believe by selecting sources of information that complies with their own thoughts in order to strengthen their resolve.
You are no less guilty of that than anyone else.
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Nobody's perfect BB. And yeah, I get things wrong. But I do always try to start from a position of appraising facts and looking at who has a track record of broadly being shown to be correct and truthful by the record.
There are plenty of left wing gobshites who I would check the calendar if they told me it was Saturday and I ignore them when I'm forming my opinions.
But like I said, none of us are perfect. The important thing is to TRY to get it right. We've all got a responsibility to do that if we want to prevent a rapid degeneration.
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Thing is. It's not even hard if you're prepared to engage your brain.
On the Tommy Robinson issue, you can put your credit into that BylineTimes article that I posted. The one that reported checkable, verifiable facts. The one that BS simply dismissed as an obscure, biased website, without addressing the facts that the article reported.
Or you can choose to accept this alternative take.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ixi0310/status/1149605662025908225
It's not really hard is it? If you're REALLY interested in objective truth.
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BST. It's the left wing gobshites who are too dangerous to ignore that make people form their opinions against them.
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What about the gobshite that is Tommy Robinson, though? He is, after all, the subject of this thread.
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Well BB, I'm sure you'd agree that people who do that, to the extent that they stop listening to reasonable and reasoned arguments from the left are being a bit immature.
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BST. I'm not suggesting ignoring any of them. You are!
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But you DO ignore sensible debate from the left BB. That's kind of the point. You do it all the time. Sensible stuff is posted in here, reasoned, supported argument and you ignore it.
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Well, that's where we differ in opinion. What you think is sensible isn't always what I think is sensible. For instance, you think it's sensible to ignore a democratic vote and insist on another one until you get the result you want - I don't.
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BB
Yes. And you have never once engaged with what I've laid out about how that position evolved. How I was perfectly prepared to accept a sensible Brexit in 2016/17, before the process was hijacked by the Right. And before the facts emerged about the criminal activities of the Leave campaigns.
You've never once engaged on discussing those issues.
Which makes me think you've no interest in reflecting or weighing evidence.
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As far as I'm aware you have never accepted Brexit and have been a sore loser since the vote. You've drifted from one reason to another to find a way of discrediting the result, and have patronised and been offensive to all Brexiters ranging from the immature young to the thick, greedy old bas**rds all along the way.
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And once again you are wrong BB. Once again you are painting the picture of what you want to react against. I don't know how many times I have to say it but for the first 9 months or so after the vote in 2016, I was entirely supportive of the decision being implemented, so long as it was done sensibly. You can find my posts on here to that effect instead of trusting your, apparently fallible, memory.
I wasn't HAPPY with it. Because I believe that even the softest of Brexits would be damaging and I'm not a hypocrite. And I certainly wasn't prepared to be lectured to by the "you lost, deal with it" brigade. Brexit was going to happen and I accepted that. But I still reserved the right to point out the consequences.
My position on accepting Brexit has changed as the circumstances have changed. Don't you review your take when things change?
By the way, you'll have to dig a long way to find me calling anyone a thick greedy old bas**rd,but you fill your boots if it makes you happy for me to be that person.
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BST, I've looked at the start of the Brexit Threads and can't find anything supporting your claim. Maybe I've missed them. If so I apologise.
I'm sure that everyone who voted Brexit wanted it done sensibly, but I don't think everyone who voted remain did. Like I've said over and over again I believe it's been sabotaged in order to fail, and my argument with you is that you support that.
You talk of leavers being 'had'. As ridiculous as it might sound to you, have you thought, even for one minute that it might have been you that's been had?
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By the way, I was in the middle of editing my post regarding the greedy old bas**rds remark because, although I wasn't quoting you, it was a bit suggestive and over the top. Next thing it said I'd had a reply, so it was pointless to edit.
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BST
This post isn't aimed at you in particular, just Remainers in general. If you look back at my reaction to the Peterborough by-election, where I wanted the Brexit Party to win, now THAT's how to be magnanimous and gracious in defeat.
It's not that difficult surely.
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Funny how lefty fascists refuse point blank to acknowledge or read evidence put to them.
You can't be a lefty facist.
Facism is a right-wing political philosophy. Among its characteristics are a positive view of violence, intolerance of minorities, attacks on liberalism and toleration and promotion of a dictatorial leader. Or to put more simply - that sort of stuff Stephen Yaxley-Lennon promotes in his videos you pay for.
Again these things are easy to check
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Fascism is neither left or right.
Stalin was a fascist, a Marxist one.
Trying to silence free speech, Is a trait of fascism. Something the radical left and antifa (ironically) are good at.
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BB
Thank you for you intention to remove that comment. Apologies for f**king it up for you!
Regarding my previous opinions on Brexit, those were from way before these lengthy Brexit threads. By the time they started, it was clear that Brexit had already been hijacked by the Right and directed towards something that had never been on the agenda in 2016.
My apologies by the way. I was wrong in saying that you'd find my opinions from 2016/17 in here. You won't because I was on sabbatical from here for the time in question. But I assure you that I was fully expecting and accepting of us leaving. What I have consistently done is to point out that if us Leaving meant us leaving the Single Market and Customs Union (which is what Leave morphed into in the 9 months AFTER the vote) and if the economic consequences of the vote were serious negative (and they have been) then people who voted Leave would be perfectly entitled to say that they'd been misled. And people who voted Remain would be perfectly entitled to remind them that they'd been misled. Because no-one (and I mean NO-ONE) on the Leave side in 2016 said anything about us going for an abrupt, Hard Brexit.
You keep on raising the issue about Remainers somehow derailing Brexit. I truly don't get you on that. There is one group of MPs more than any other that have prevented Brexit from happening. That's the DUP/ERG lot.
You cannot possibly blame the Labour party for voting down May's deal. They are led by a committed Brexiter, but had been entirely cut out of any negotiations, and had genuine ideological reasons why they could never have supported her deal (primarily because it would have slashed a whole tranche of workers' rights).
And of course, Labour and the LDs and the SNP and all my posts to you put together couldn't stop Brexit. Because the Tories and the DUP put together had a majority in Parliament.
But we WOULD have left in March if the ERG and DUP had not voted down May's deal, because her deal wasn't hard enough for them. Yet, as one who tells us he supported Remain in 2016, and has complained bitterly about Remainers wrecking Brexit, you have uttered not one word of condemnation against them.
I genuinely don't understand why that is.
And I also genuinely don't understand what you mean by my "supporting" that "sabotaging" of Brexit, when the sabotaging has been done by the Far Right. With the intention (which is what Brexit was always about) of putting Johnson into No. 10.
You reckon I supported that?
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Wilts.
I think BS here is doing a Queen of Hearts thing. Seems like words mean what he wants them to mean, rather than what they are commonly accepted to mean.
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Funny how lefty fascists refuse point blank to acknowledge or read evidence put to them.
You can't be a lefty facist.
Facism is a right-wing political philosophy. Among its characteristics are a positive view of violence, intolerance of minorities, attacks on liberalism and toleration and promotion of a dictatorial leader. Or to put more simply - that sort of stuff Stephen Yaxley-Lennon promotes in his videos you pay for.
Again these things are easy to check
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
Fascism is neither left or right.
Stalin was a fascist, a Marxist one.
Trying to silence free speech, Is a trait of fascism. Something the radical left and antifa (ironically) are good at.
Stalin may have been a fascist. Some communists try and excuse his atrocities by saying that he was a 'red facist' rather than a true communist. But that would mean he wasn't a Marxist.
You are quite right in pointing out that there are some similarities between fascism and communism (especially the authoritarian communism that was practiced by rulers like Pol Pot & Stalin) but there are even more differences. The major ones being:
communism is an international philosophy based on the works of Karl Marx that does not recognise the nation state and wants to spread the wealth of production through the whole of society (and the world)
fascism promotes the nation state and capitalist production within it
Now was Stalin a fascist or a marxist? Here is some reading to help to choose
https://www.quora.com/Was-Stalin-fascist
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Fascism_and_Socialism
https://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=70560
https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/a0vwme/eli5why_was_stalins_ussr_not_considered_fascist/
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Wilts.
I think BS here is doing a Queen of Hearts thing. Seems like words mean what he wants them to mean, rather than what they are commonly accepted to mean.
I thought it was Humpty Dumpty who said that, BST. And shouldnt it be DS, (Dipstick)?
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NNK
My mistake on Lewis Carrol. I never did read his stuff, the repressed paedophile that he (allegedly) was.
And no. It's definitely BS. I don't do insults like that.
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Wilts.
I think BS here is doing a Queen of Hearts thing. Seems like words mean what he wants them to mean, rather than what they are commonly accepted to mean.
Mmm sort of. I don't think Boomstick is a bad lad, I think he is just misguided in the things he reads and who he takes his information from. Which is why I think it is important to challenge him on what he is saying rather than him saying it.
I will provide a factual answer to his points and I will providence evidence to back up my answer. He can come back and challenge me or he can ignore it. He can go on the alt-right message boards and ask what to say. He might change his opinion, he might not. I don't mind. But he will be provided with factual answer to contradict the lies he has been told somewhere else, which I think is a good thing.
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I'm with you on the principle Wilts. My experience is that it's not working in practice. Seems that the more evidence you present these days, the more resistance you get. Along with accusations of being patronising.
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BB
Thank you for you intention to remove that comment. Apologies for f**king it up for you!
Regarding my previous opinions on Brexit, those were from way before these lengthy Brexit threads. By the time they started, it was clear that Brexit had already been hijacked by the Right and directed towards something that had never been on the agenda in 2016.
My apologies by the way. I was wrong in saying that you'd find my opinions from 2016/17 in here. You won't because I was on sabbatical from here for the time in question. But I assure you that I was fully expecting and accepting of us leaving. What I have consistently done is to point out that if us Leaving meant us leaving the Single Market and Customs Union (which is what Leave morphed into in the 9 months AFTER the vote) and if the economic consequences of the vote were serious negative (and they have been) then people who voted Leave would be perfectly entitled to say that they'd been misled. And people who voted Remain would be perfectly entitled to remind them that they'd been misled. Because no-one (and I mean NO-ONE) on the Leave side in 2016 said anything about us going for an abrupt, Hard Brexit.
You keep on raising the issue about Remainers somehow derailing Brexit. I truly don't get you on that. There is one group of MPs more than any other that have prevented Brexit from happening. That's the DUP/ERG lot.
You cannot possibly blame the Labour party for voting down May's deal. They are led by a committed Brexiter, but had been entirely cut out of any negotiations, and had genuine ideological reasons why they could never have supported her deal (primarily because it would have slashed a whole tranche of workers' rights).
And of course, Labour and the LDs and the SNP and all my posts to you put together couldn't stop Brexit. Because the Tories and the DUP put together had a majority in Parliament.
But we WOULD have left in March if the ERG and DUP had not voted down May's deal, because her deal wasn't hard enough for them. Yet, as one who tells us he supported Remain in 2016, and has complained bitterly about Remainers wrecking Brexit, you have uttered not one word of condemnation against them.
I genuinely don't understand why that is.
And I also genuinely don't understand what you mean by my "supporting" that "sabotaging" of Brexit, when the sabotaging has been done by the Far Right. With the intention (which is what Brexit was always about) of putting Johnson into No. 10.
You reckon I supported that?
BST. No need to apologise for f**king up what might well have resulted in an attack from the Lilly livered snowflakes among us. I really should toughen up and care less about my carelessness.
Thanks also in admitting you were wrong in saying I'd find examples of your posts accepting the referendum result. That's another 5 minutes of my life wasted on this forum.
Of course, I can blame the Labour party for derailing Brexit. Corbyn puts power before principals and would never have agreed to any sort of deal that May achieved. Politicians from all parties contributed to making Brexit impossible, and May never had a chance.
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Well for one, you were looking on the wrong threads, so that 5 mins is on you buddy.
Anyway once again, you pass on the option of even mentioning how the ERG/DUP stopped us leaving in March.
Odd. Almost like you don't want to acknowledge their role at all.
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It's no odder than your unwillingness to acknowledge Corbyn's role in it all.
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You obviously haven't been reading my posts about Corbyn these past 3 years then.
I'll spell it out. Please don't think I'm being patronising, but I thought this was bleeding obvious.
Corbyn is a lifelong Brexiter.
Corbyn, bizarrely, thinks he can get to No10 by supporting Brexit, but his own Brexit.
But no Labour PM would ever support May's Brexit. Expecting them to when a) they had been entirely cut out of the negotiations (so there was no "national interest" argument, which is what you seem to think we ought to all agree on, no?) and b) the specific May Brexit was so anathema to the fundamental principles of the Labour party that it is quite ridiculous to expect them to support it.
So Corbyn has shipped his party to oppose May's Brexit deal. Which, in those circumstances, any Labour leader would have done.
But.
That whipping would have had zero effect if the ERG and DUP hadn't voted against May's deal.
There you go. My take on Corbyn.
Now. Yours on the ERG?
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Glad you agree with me about Corbyn. I agree with the ERG's stance about keeping a no deal Brexit on the table. I'm sure May did too if truth be known. How on earth can you bargain something when you've made a promise not to walk away from a deal no matter how bad it is?
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But.
1) May tried that. Were you sleeping through 2017?
2) We were told in 2016 that it'd be the easiest negotiation ever. We held all the cards and the EU would buckle.
3) We were told by Leave in 2016 that talk of a difficult Brexit was Project Fear.
Anyway.
That's the sensible, rational response.
The instinctive one is that you don't actually believe anything of what you've said tonight.
1) You blamed Remain supporters for sabotaging Brexit.
2) But you support the people who actually voted down a Brexit that we could have had.
So the logical conclusion of 2 is that you don't actually believe 1. Because, how could you REALLY criticise Remainers (who couldn't stop Brexit) for derailing Brexit when you support the Far Right Leavers who actually DID stop Brexit?
Which leaves me wondering why you continually raise the issue of Remainers derailing Brexit.
Almost as if you just want an argument regardless...
Goodnight.
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If we'd have all accepted the result and stood together we would have held all the cards.
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Yes BB. I do believe that you do think that.
And note that I've said that I'd have taken a Norway deal. Which the majority of the country would be prepared to accept.
But that was blown out of the water by May in Jan 2017, deciding unilaterally that Brexit meant Hard Brexit.
No discussion. No checking what the country wanted. Just a decision that that was what Brexit meant.
And the consequences.
1) That meant she had no moral leverage on Labour. Because she'd ignored Labour so why should they support her?
2) By giving a sop to the Hard Right, she became their hostage. When she came back with a deal that was too hard for even a Brexiteer like Corbyn to support, she found it was too weak for Johnson and Rees-Mogg to support.
Your "Let's all hold hands and be British" idea is charmingly innocent, but it ignores what has actually happened.
And yet you STILL only criticise one side..
Almost as if...
And. Hang on.
The EU would fall over themselves to give us a Norway deal. Because it minimises the economic hit to them as well as to us. It sorts out the Irish border issue. It's not exactly win-win, cos we both end up worse than before. But it's "Respect the Vote" and "Not bad lose - not bad lose."
So.
Why would you need to support the ERG threatening Armageddon Brexit if you actually want the country to be united on a sensible Brexit?
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What do you mean I only criticise one side? Since when?
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Well in this very thread you are accusing bitter Remainer sore losers and scheming Corbynites for wrecking Brexit, but praising the tactics of the ERG and DUP despite those tactics bringing down May's deal.
If you can point me to your detailed criticism of Farage, Johnson, Rees-Mogg etc, we can bring this discussion to a close with an apology from me for having misread you.
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So aren't some Remainers bitter and sore losers? Surely you should know the right answer to that, being one yourself! And of course, Corbyn played a part in destroying Brexit, he wouldn't have agreed to anything May achieved.
I haven't criticised Farage, Johnson and JRM because they want to carry out what the people voted for. I agree with them that taking a no deal Brexit off the table is silly. If that's what you call praising them so be it. I call it common sense.
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BB.
Enough. Go find someone else to bore. I've given you the benefit of the doubt but you're incapable of addressing this like an adult.
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Patronising to the end.
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Only to though who invite it. Act like a grown up and I'll respond like a grown up. As ever.
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When you look at the two character's of Robinson and Johnson there's not a great deal of difference really except that Johnson appears to have the advantage of having rich parents and being able to wriggle out of things that would get Robinson jailed. They are both a couple of dishonest thugs really.
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What is it with the far right that they don't want to comply with the nation's laws and more importantly who are the headcases that give them money?
''Britain First fined £44,000 over electoral law breaches
Electoral Commission found defunct far-right party had failed to declare donations''
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jul/16/britain-first-fined-electoral-law-breaches-electoral-commission
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BB.
Enough. Go find someone else to bore. I've given you the benefit of the doubt but you're incapable of addressing this like an adult.
Sounds like you conceded defeat remoaner
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BS.
Not at all. I've just got better things to do than argue with someone who complains about a minority group of MPs for voting against May's deal after never having been consulted on the deal they would have supported, while refusing to criticise a section of the majority party who were consulted on May's deal and then voted against it.
There's not much point discussing this issue with someone who steadfastly refused to criticise Leave supporters who campaigned for a Norway-style deal in 2016 but no say that would be a betrayal, while regularly blaming Remain supporters for wrecking Brexit.
That discussion has clearly reached its natural end. If anyone wants to discuss this sensibly, I'm ready and waiting.
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https://youtu.be/-_w-Ai5AyJg
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QED.
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Quite Excessive Disdain?
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This is an example of what I mean about the difficulty of discussing this like a grown up.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/1151507959559675904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1151507959559675904&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuk-politics-49015559
The Leader of that MEP's party spent the whole 2016 campaign telling us what a good example Norway's deal with the EU was.
May negotiated a deal that was more removed from the EU than Norway.
His party now call that "a betrayal" because it's not far enough cut off from the EU.
And BB refuses to criticise them, saying it's the Remainers' fault...
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https://youtu.be/v5UhCDIwvUc
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https://youtu.be/v5UhCDIwvUc
You do know that clip is from before the referendum campaign began don't you BB? If you are quick you can change it for another one from the campaign period, no-one will notice.
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And? What was Corbyn's view on Brexit in 2015?
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BB
Let me get this right. You're asking ME to defend Corbyn's take on Brexit?
That's a good one. You're back on form with the funnies.
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I was criticising Wilts. However, your accusation of Farage changing his mind on Norway is somewhat trivial in comparison to both current main party leaders who actually changed sides!
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Always questions never answers.
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Always questions never answers.
I've become accustomed to that now, Sydney. It seems I'm one of the few on here that actually answers questions.
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upper class fascists have always found right wing thugs very useful,
especially when it come to the ' getting rid' of any opposition.
#FBPE #FøkBrexit Retweeted
Dr Louise Raw Retweeted Danny Tommo
Nothing to see here- just convicted kidnapper & Tommy Robinson’s right hand thug Danny Tommo, who punched a woman in the face in Warrington a couple of months back, having a meeting at the HOUSE OF LORDS today, & a lovely chat with @Jacob_Rees_Mogg.
(via @Rob_Bulll)
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Hannah Arendt had it right when she charted the rise of fascism and it's forebears right back to the Roman Republic.
She said the danger comes when you get an alliance between the Elite and the Mob.
It's happening. Right in front of our eyes. The institutions we painfully set up over the years to clip the wings of the Rees-Moggs and control ten bob thugs like Yaxley-Lennon are being attacked on all sides.
And dopes buy into this "we're on your side against the Elite" ba-baa.
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Hannah Arendt had it right when she charted the rise of fascism and it's forebears right back to the Roman Republic.
She said the danger comes when you get an alliance between the Elite and the Mob.
It's happening. Right in front of our eyes. The institutions we painfully set up over the years to clip the wings of the Rees-Moggs and control ten bob thugs like Yaxley-Lennon are being attacked on all sides.
And dopes buy into this "we're on your side against the Elite" ba-baa.
Unfortunately the opposition party with the most clout is wrong footed and probably even encouraging it by its choice of leadership and actual pert membership.
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Hannah Arendt had it right when she charted the rise of fascism and it's forebears right back to the Roman Republic.
She said the danger comes when you get an alliance between the Elite and the Mob.
It's happening. Right in front of our eyes. The institutions we painfully set up over the years to clip the wings of the Rees-Moggs and control ten bob thugs like Yaxley-Lennon are being attacked on all sides.
And dopes buy into this "we're on your side against the Elite" ba-baa.
Unfortunately the opposition party with the most clout is wrong footed and probably even encouraging it by its choice of leadership and actual pert membership.
Unfortunately when have ordinary people excusing the actions and growth of fascism in society it's irrelevant what any opposition party does.
If you tolerate this - then your children will be next...
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Apologies to Boomstick, seems Mr Yaxley-Lennon is under threat of assault in prison after all.
It appears that if he goes around Belmarsh acting arrogantly and attempting to intimidate other prisoners he will be decked by a 70 y-o pensioner who doesn't care who he is.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/793111/tommy-robinson-punched-belmarsh-prison-edl-fight
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''Anti-fascist activists clash with Tommy Robinson supporters in London''
''Stand Up to Racism says rising bigotry at the top of society is emboldening the far right''
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/03/anti-fascist-activists-clash-tommy-robins