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Doncaster Rovers are on the hunt for a new manager following the departure of Darren Ferguson who had been in charge of the club since October 2015. More to follow.
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A mixed set of recent results has seen Doncaster Rovers collect wins versus Milton Keynes Dons, Blackpool and Bradford City while suffering adverse results at Wigan Athletic, Blackburn Rovers and Oxford United. Draws against AFC Wimbledon, Oldham Athletic, Bury and Gillingham has seen them show mid-table form at best.
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Talk about "the usual suspects."
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If they appoint Steve Cotterill I want a refund on my season ticket.
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16/1 Gary Megson ,that’s me at the bookies tomorrow,pinching money
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Frauds, frauds everywhere.
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If they appoint Steve Cotterill I want a refund on my season ticket.
I can't even think about the possibility of THAT !!!
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Hopkin is interesting, got back to back promotions with Livingston, then resigns as he sees his future in England
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Please not Gary Megson.
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I'm waiting to see who Gaz backs😀
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Brian McDermott is the stand out on that list
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Hopkin is interesting, got back to back promotions with Livingston, then resigns as he sees his future in England
He sounds tasty.
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Please not The Bisto kid Phil Brown..
I would sit in my garden shed wield my rusty bow saw and hack through my left leg.
If Brian Laws is on the list , i will saw my right one off too.
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Who ever is cheapest
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Hopkin is interesting, got back to back promotions with Livingston, then resigns as he sees his future in England
I didn't know he'd resigned from Livi actually. He'd be an interesting one, no idea what type of football he plays mind.
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I'd have John Sheridan from that list.
Steady, but not very flattering.
Do you really wish that much ill on the club you once supported?
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Grayson and Glyn Snodin 😊
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The ink isn't dry on his resignation letter yet. The board are probably off to bed. I'm always puzzled how these odds lists are drawn up a nanosecond after a vacancy opens up.
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https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/22346542 (https://m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/22346542)
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Who is Hanes Wolf?
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Gary Megson lumping £100 on himself as we speak.
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Idd take heckinbottom from that list
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David Hopkin fits the recent mould of manager we have had recently, Scottish, young, reletivley good playing career with connections
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Christ no more jocks
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Who is Hanes Wolf?
Former Stuttgart manager.
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I'd have John Sheridan from that list.
Steady, but not very flattering.
You're having a laugh, surely Rigo. John Sheridan?
He'd be even less popular than when he played for us, and that is no easy feat.
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Christ no more jocks
He does have an appealing record with 116 games as a manger, a win ratio of 52% and only 47. However it would be a risky appointment considering the jump between scottish and english football. Look at how Robbie Neilson did at MK this season
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The ink isn't dry on his resignation letter yet. The board are probably off to bed. I'm always puzzled how these odds lists are drawn up a nanosecond after a vacancy opens up.
From a bookies point of view,The sooner they take bets the sooner they start to make money.The earlier bets are laid,the more likely the majority of them will be wrong.Easy money.
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Theres some interesting names on that list,A few I'd be interested to see if they'd be good for us,like Hopkins,McDermott,Deane and Heckingbottom,and quite a few Hmmmm,a bit risky and several NO-NO's.
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According to Oddschecker, the money’s going on Lee Clark.
Sweet f**king Jesus. I’d rather have Lee Mack
Or Lee Evans
Or Lee van Cleef.
Or Lee-ning on the Lampost at the Corner of our f**king Street.
Or Vince Clark.
Or Petula Clark.
Or Dave Clark.
Or the scrunched up paper out of a box of Clark shoes.
Or even...Steve Evans.
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He was in the running last time. Awful manager, worse person. I can't think of many I'd like to see less.
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With this Board, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest!
Haven't got a scooby who could be good, bad or indifferent managers.
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Is Russ Wilcox in the lists? My money's on him.
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Some proper bad candidates there. Proper bad.
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With this Board, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest!
Haven't got a scooby who could be good, bad or indifferent managers.
Alan, really don't get your issue with the board. They contribute millions to the club every year, they have a meeting with the fans every year where fans can express their views which is something a long of clubs won't get. The club is in a far better position financially than probably any other time in its history. But yet every post I see you make you moan about them. Genuinely not exactly sure what you expect from them??
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Lee Clark very nearly got the job last time. Awful manager.
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Lee Clark very nearly got the job last time. Awful manager.
If Lee Clark gets the job I’ll be sick.
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Can I get my money back on my season ticket if Clark gets it?
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Lee Clark very nearly got the job last time. Awful manager.
I think you mean he was interviewed.
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Lee Clark very nearly got the job last time. Awful manager.
I think you mean he was interviewed.
He was shortlisted, interviewed and invited back for further discussions
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How about Ian Holloway. At least his interviews will be entertaining
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Given we are not in a situation to recruit a SOD type dream manager, I would say attributes for me are going to be:
- ability to organise and insert backbone
- motivational figure
- keep youth system moving
I would honestly say good football but we have to be realistic with what we can expect. So long as it is better than Dickov then I will be happy.
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Given we are not in a situation to recruit a SOD type dream manager, I would say attributes for me are going to be:
- ability to organise and insert backbone
- motivational figure
- keep youth system moving
I would honestly say good football but we have to be realistic with what we can expect. So long as it is better than Dickov then I will be happy.
"Better than Dickov"? Absolutely anyone with a coaching badge then??!! 😂😂😂
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Given we are not in a situation to recruit a SOD type dream manager, I would say attributes for me are going to be:
- ability to organise and insert backbone
- motivational figure
- keep youth system moving
I would honestly say good football but we have to be realistic with what we can expect. So long as it is better than Dickov then I will be happy.
I would add being known for playing attractive football is key too. The football in the main last season was awful to watch
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Given we are not in a situation to recruit a SOD type dream manager, I would say attributes for me are going to be:
- ability to organise and insert backbone
- motivational figure
- keep youth system moving
I would honestly say good football but we have to be realistic with what we can expect. So long as it is better than Dickov then I will be happy.
"Better than Dickov"? Absolutely anyone with a coaching badge then??!! 😂😂😂
As in, football quality better than Dickov.
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Mark Warburton will do for me
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Mark Warburton will do for me
Out of our league.
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What a sad tragic list of hasbeens and flops in the reckoning for the job per the bookies. Let's hope they are wrong cos Clark, Megson, Brown and co just garbage. As a long standing season ticket holder this list is so uninspiring that if the Board go for the cheap option or unimaginative option of recruiting one of these I will question my sanity making the 80 mile round trip 23 home games next season. Lee Clark should never get another league manager job ever!
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The kind of process we enacted last time opened us up to talkers.
I suggest this time we go out and observe someone in action or stick to some kernel of football knowledge.
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Mark Warburton will do for me
Out of our league.
Disagree, we are in a strong position to appoint someone decent like him. Saunders left us for greener grass, Dickov was sacked but given plenty of time, as well as a chance at a level he hadn't been at before. Ferguson was backed financially and given more than enough time despite a relegation.
If I was a manager looking for a job I'd be straight in for this one. You don't get sacked easily, the setup is decent and the club finances are not in a mess.
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The fundamentals here are important. Anyone would see this as a decent springboard. Stadium, stable owners, decent budget, faith (to fault) in managers, sensible CEO, improving youth set up, good crowds and interesting Club Doncaster set-up that shows a forward-thinking club plus we are in footballing part of the world (ie not Exeter or Carlisle) where lots of managers and players live within hour drive to work. All these are reasons to be cheerful that we can attract the right calibre of candidate.
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Given we are not in a situation to recruit a SOD type dream manager, I would say attributes for me are going to be:
- ability to organise and insert backbone
- motivational figure
- keep youth system moving
I would honestly say good football but we have to be realistic with what we can expect. So long as it is better than Dickov then I will be happy.
I would add being known for playing attractive football is key too. The football in the main last season was awful to watch
That last sentence is interesting to read.
Quite a few people are now saying that but if anyone dared to mention it last season they were quickly berated by a few posters.
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Given we are not in a situation to recruit a SOD type dream manager, I would say attributes for me are going to be:
- ability to organise and insert backbone
- motivational figure
- keep youth system moving
I would honestly say good football but we have to be realistic with what we can expect. So long as it is better than Dickov then I will be happy.
That criteria would have the belles worried.....
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Given we are not in a situation to recruit a SOD type dream manager, I would say attributes for me are going to be:
- ability to organise and insert backbone
- motivational figure
- keep youth system moving
I would honestly say good football but we have to be realistic with what we can expect. So long as it is better than Dickov then I will be happy.
I would add being known for playing attractive football is key too. The football in the main last season was awful to watch
That last sentence is interesting to read.
Quite a few people are now saying that but if anyone dared to mention it last season they were quickly berated by a few posters.
Do you mean the dumb, thick, petulant, ungrateful spoilt kids who were just spoiling for an argument?
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Is Danny Wilson in the betting?
A little bird told me that he was actually offered the job before a last minute phone call swung it in DF's favour last time.
Just saying
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Is Danny Wilson in the betting?
A little bird told me that he was actually offered the job before a last minute phone call swung it in DF's favour last time.
Just saying
He was offered the job.
Stuart McCall now favourite, would be a good appointment. However didn’t he want a bigger budget hence why he left Bradford?
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Tisdale is a realistic appointment for me won’t be to expensive plus I think most fans would be happy with him and not get on the boards back
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Why do we want to appoint any of these managerial underachievers who have been sacked by every club they have ever managed? McCall Grayson Rosler Megson etc etc
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Why do we want to appoint any of these managerial underachievers who have been sacked by every club they have ever managed? McCall Grayson Rosler Megson etc etc
Grayson has a good record of getting promoted from this devision. McCall done pretty well wherever he’s been. Most managerial reigns end in a sacking. Doesn’t make all managers bad.
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Why do we want to appoint any of these managerial underachievers who have been sacked by every club they have ever managed? McCall Grayson Rosler Megson etc etc
I think if you are looking for us to appoint a manager who has never had the sack you are in for a very long wait.
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I really do feel Grayson would be a good choice, hope he’s applied.
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I really do feel Grayson would be a good choice, hope he’s applied.
His record for what our aims are is clearly strong.
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I really do feel Grayson would be a good choice, hope he’s applied.
Grayson wouldn’t be the worst but I don’t really like his football. Get it wide and get it into the box.
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Christ no more jocks
You don't remember Billy Bremner then??
Borderline racist comment too - surely we want the best available man for the job we can afford, irrespective of nationality?
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Grayson is simlair to the Fergie appointment imo, would prefer to avoid
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I really do feel Grayson would be a good choice, hope he’s applied.
Grayson wouldn’t be the worst but I don’t really like his football. Get it wide and get it into the box.
That is a style we haven't had for a very long time. I must say whilst Grayson isn't my favourite bloke in the world I think he does tick a lot of the boxes. And Snods coming in with him would really help get fans onside I reckon.
Stuart McCall is someone else I do like. Knows the region, has contacts around the UK and has done a decent job at Bradford as well as Motherwell. He was in the running for the Scotland job after Strachan left I believe.
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I really do feel Grayson would be a good choice, hope he’s applied.
Grayson wouldn’t be the worst but I don’t really like his football. Get it wide and get it into the box.
That is a style we haven't had for a very long time. I must say whilst Grayson isn't my favourite bloke in the world I think he does tick a lot of the boxes. And Snods coming in with him would really help get fans onside I reckon.
Stuart McCall is someone else I do like. Knows the region, has contacts around the UK and has done a decent job at Bradford as well as Motherwell. He was in the running for the Scotland job after Strachan left I believe.
I’m on McCall. Smashed the price in.
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I've always been suspicious of McCall's pot-belly. In fact, any manager with a pot belly. Who was the last great manager with a beer gut?
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McCall doesn’t have the class required to lift the club to the next level ....but he’s cheap so it’s a shoe in .
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McCall doesn’t have the class required to lift the club to the next level ....but he’s cheap so it’s a shoe in .
How do you know he's cheap?
Does anyone know what the salary of a L1 manager is likely to be?
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Whoever gets it will be labelled the cheap option, because it suits the narrative.
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Why do we want to appoint any of these managerial underachievers who have been sacked by every club they have ever managed? McCall Grayson Rosler Megson etc etc
I think if you are looking for us to appoint a manager who has never had the sack you are in for a very long wait.
Shankly and Paisley are dead I think.
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Given we are not in a situation to recruit a SOD type dream manager, I would say attributes for me are going to be:
- ability to organise and insert backbone
- motivational figure
- keep youth system moving
I would honestly say good football but we have to be realistic with what we can expect. So long as it is better than Dickov then I will be happy.
I would add being known for playing attractive football is key too. The football in the main last season was awful to watch
That last sentence is interesting to read.
Quite a few people are now saying that but if anyone dared to mention it last season they were quickly berated by a few posters.
Do you mean the dumb, thick, petulant, ungrateful spoilt kids who were just spoiling for an argument?
Are they the ones daring to mention the awful football or the ones doing the berating?
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Christ no more jocks
You don't remember Billy Bremner then??
Borderline racist comment too - surely we want the best available man for the job we can afford, irrespective of nationality?
We don’t seem to have any coloured players on our books , is that not unusual. Hi McCall would find that a bit odd after coming from Bradford.
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With this Board, it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest!
Haven't got a scooby who could be good, bad or indifferent managers.
Alan, you've posted some stinkers on here, but this takes the biscuit.
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Christ no more jocks
You don't remember Billy Bremner then??
Borderline racist comment too - surely we want the best available man for the job we can afford, irrespective of nationality?
We don’t seem to have any coloured players on our books , is that not unusual. Hi McCall would find that a bit odd after coming from Bradford.
I don't ever remember us having a blue or green coloured player? What colour we talking about?
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Christ no more jocks
You don't remember Billy Bremner then??
Borderline racist comment too - surely we want the best available man for the job we can afford, irrespective of nationality?
We don’t seem to have any coloured players on our books , is that not unusual. Hi McCall would find that a bit odd after coming from Bradford.
I don't ever remember us having a blue or green coloured player? What colour we talking about?
Looking beyond the coloured/black mistake in language, I have found it a bit puzzling in recent years that we do have a notable lack of ethnic diversity compared to other teams.
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Jock borderline racist come on lol? Grayson would be my choice always does well at this level
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Christ no more jocks
You don't remember Billy Bremner then??
Borderline racist comment too - surely we want the best available man for the job we can afford, irrespective of nationality?
We don’t seem to have any coloured players on our books , is that not unusual. Hi McCall would find that a bit odd after coming from Bradford.
So a Paki, a darkie and a Jew walked into a bar.
EDIT: Sorry! Sorry! I thought for a moment we’d gone back to 1973.
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Christ no more jocks
You don't remember Billy Bremner then??
Borderline racist comment too - surely we want the best available man for the job we can afford, irrespective of nationality?
We don’t seem to have any coloured players on our books , is that not unusual. Hi McCall would find that a bit odd after coming from Bradford.
I don't ever remember us having a blue or green coloured player? What colour we talking about?
Looking beyond the coloured/black mistake in language, I have found it a bit puzzling in recent years that we do have a notable lack of ethnic diversity compared to other teams.
I’ve thought that as well. Kiwomya is the only black player isn’t he?
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Depends if you count Evina is a player or not (for now). I certainly wouldn't so I can see where the confusion comes in.
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I take it you think scouser taff and brummie are racist comments 2?
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Mason and we did have Kongolo.
Edit: Ben Khemis too.
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We had plenty of coloured folk around last year.
Kongolo looked a bit green.
Williams was yellow.
The fans were blue.
Ferguson’s mood was generally black.
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I take it you think scouser taff and brummie are racist comments 2?
Well people born in Liverpool and Birmingham aren't of another race so that was a f**king stupid thing to say. Taff is the Welsh equivalent of Jock is it not so it's not exactly any better is it?
Ooh I bet you miss the days where we could tell jokes about them Irish.
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BPool.
There's a dead simple rule of thumb.
If the name is meant as a slur or an insult then it's offensive. If it's not then it isn't. And if the name has has acquired offensive connotations because of the way that other people use it, then you using it is, by association, offensive. Equally, if a group of people dislike being called a particular name then by definition, using that name is offensive.
So:
Paki is offensive.
Auusie isn't offensive.
Scouser isn't offensive.
Paddy is offensive. As is Taff. Because they're intended to imply that those people are somehow inferior to English AND because it's clear if you speak to most Welsh and Irish people that they find those names offensive.
It's really not hard if you just stop and think about it for a minute. But there's bits round the edges - Jock, I think, is considered less offensive by Scots and doesn't carry the same offensive connotations as Paddy or Paki.
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McCall doesn’t have the class required to lift the club to the next level ....but he’s cheap so it’s a shoe in .
Really? How much does he cost then?
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Harry Forrester was the last coloured player I can remember......
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Wellens sacked by Oldham
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Chris Coleman’s odds are interesting as he is only in the donny manager betting on sky bet
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I take it you think scouser taff and brummie are racist comments 2?
Aren't they cities not races ?
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Your not calling the cities brummies or scousers your calling the people it
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Ignoring my post where I pointed out that they aren't names used based on nationality or race then I see. Probably because you know your point is baseless.
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It may be offensive to some but it's not racist
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Harry Forrester was the last coloured player I can remember......
Quarter Indian.
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Bpool
If you are
a) Labelling and entire ethnic/national group of people and
b) being offensive,
I’m struggling to think of any other word to use but “racist”.
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Ok we can agree to disagree, but as I know you like your links lol,https://www.scotsman.com/news/hun-and-jock-not-offensive-says-ofcom-research-1-4248100 but link didn’t work
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racism
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a programme to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice/bigotry, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, bias, intolerance; More
anti-Semitism;
historicalapartheid
the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
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Is Yank racist also?
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Sorry to interrupt, but does anyone know the latest odds?
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These are one version, am sure there are loads of others.
http://www.thesackrace.com/teams/doncaster-rovers
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Harry Forrester was the last coloured player I can remember......
Quarter Indian.
Forresters mum is black. Mason has an Indian background I think.
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Mason’s parents are both very well off ,they live abroad for tax reasons
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Mason’s parents are both very well off ,they live abroad for tax reasons
He does look like a Colombian drug dealer.
Does that count.
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Ok we can agree to disagree, but as I know you like your links lol,https://www.scotsman.com/news/hun-and-jock-not-offensive-says-ofcom-research-1-4248100 but link didn’t work
Just because people aren't offended - and no, Bentley, I'm not getting offended on their behalf as part of your beloved PC brigade - doesn't mean it isn't a discriminatory tag.
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Harry Forrester was the last coloured player I can remember......
Quarter Indian.
My bad
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Harry Forrester was the last coloured player I can remember......
Quarter Indian.
My bad
Quite tricky this isn’t it
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I didn't say that thou red I said whoever posted it earlier on was not being border line racist
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Missing the point completely then...
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I’ve had a few, but I would welcome Dave Penney back.
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I’ve had a few, but I would welcome Dave Penney back.
good grief no, he’s shown since he left us how good a manager he is
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latest odds as of Tuesday 12th June 12pm:
Stuart McCall 10/11
Richie Wellens 5/1
Simon Grayson 7/1
David Hopkin 8/1
Paul Heckingbottom 12/1
Sean O'Driscoll 16/1
Gavin Strachan 20/1
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They've definitely got Sean O'Driscoll by looking on here. No other reason for him to be linked.
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According to today's Telegraph & Argus although Hopkin has an interview with City he's expected to turn it down due to running the club the German way.
The manager coaches and the board target and acquire players and the manager having no input with the budget expenditure.
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Harry Forrester was the last coloured player I can remember......
Quarter Indian.
My bad
Quite tricky this isn’t it
Be a quadroon in pre-civil war USA and you'd be a slave.
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If McCall, Grayson and Hopkin are all still in the top 4/5 then I'm pleased, means we're likely to get someone with some capability.
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They've definitely got Sean O'Driscoll by looking on here. No other reason for him to be linked.
Why is there any reason for anyone to be linked?
SOD has more reason than any, being the best manager we've ever had!
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If McCall, Grayson and Hopkin are all still in the top 4/5 then I'm pleased, means we're likely to get someone with some capability.
It is only the bookies who have those three in the top 4/5 so it doesn’t mean much really.
We could still end up with someone else.
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They've definitely got Sean O'Driscoll by looking on here. No other reason for him to be linked.
Why is there any reason for anyone to be linked?
SOD has more reason than any, being the best manager we've ever had!
How is that a reason to being linked to a previous job that you were sacked from?
And before you raise me Jose Mourinho, he went abroad and won plenty of trophies in other countries. What has O'Driscoll actually achieved since leaving?
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If McCall, Grayson and Hopkin are all still in the top 4/5 then I'm pleased, means we're likely to get someone with some capability.
It is only the bookies who have those three in the top 4/5 so it doesn’t mean much really.
We could still end up with someone else.
When the odds of a candidate become odds on,thats the time to take it seriously,until then,the odds are only useful for those who want to gamble on who it will be.
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I may be totally wrong, but I don't suspect that Simon Grayson will have applied for the job; I don't think he would deem us as a big enough club.
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If McCall, Grayson and Hopkin are all still in the top 4/5 then I'm pleased, means we're likely to get someone with some capability.
It is only the bookies who have those three in the top 4/5 so it doesn’t mean much really.
We could still end up with someone else.
When the odds of a candidate become odds on,thats the time to take it seriously,until then,the odds are only useful for those who want to gamble on who it will be.
Based on that theory then the job is going to McCall.
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They've definitely got Sean O'Driscoll by looking on here. No other reason for him to be linked.
Why is there any reason for anyone to be linked?
SOD has more reason than any, being the best manager we've ever had!
How is that a reason to being linked to a previous job that you were sacked from?
And before you raise me Jose Mourinho, he went abroad and won plenty of trophies in other countries. What has O'Driscoll actually achieved since leaving?
Im just questioning your flawed reasoning of why you think the only reason SOD is in the betting is because people mention him on here.
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If McCall, Grayson and Hopkin are all still in the top 4/5 then I'm pleased, means we're likely to get someone with some capability.
It is only the bookies who have those three in the top 4/5 so it doesn’t mean much really.
We could still end up with someone else.
Oh I know Hound, just I was saying if it ends up being a name like one of those I'll be pleased in the end.
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They've definitely got Sean O'Driscoll by looking on here. No other reason for him to be linked.
Why is there any reason for anyone to be linked?
SOD has more reason than any, being the best manager we've ever had!
How is that a reason to being linked to a previous job that you were sacked from?
And before you raise me Jose Mourinho, he went abroad and won plenty of trophies in other countries. What has O'Driscoll actually achieved since leaving?
Im just questioning your flawed reasoning of why you think the only reason SOD is in the betting is because people mention him on here.
Well why else would he be linked then?
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They've definitely got Sean O'Driscoll by looking on here. No other reason for him to be linked.
Why is there any reason for anyone to be linked?
SOD has more reason than any, being the best manager we've ever had!
How is that a reason to being linked to a previous job that you were sacked from?
And before you raise me Jose Mourinho, he went abroad and won plenty of trophies in other countries. What has O'Driscoll actually achieved since leaving?
Im just questioning your flawed reasoning of why you think the only reason SOD is in the betting is because people mention him on here.
Well why else would he be linked then?
Do you really need that explaining ?
When mourinho was in the betting for the 2nd stint at Chelsea, was that only because they talked about him on their forums?
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No, it was probably because he had won major trophies elsewhere in the meantime.
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Most of the time it's nothing to do with being linked with the job, there was a bookies with odds about 10 mins after df left and Grayson McCall and sod were all on that list
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I may be totally wrong, but I don't suspect that Simon Grayson will have applied for the job; I don't think he would deem us as a big enough club.
Depends what you want in a job. I'd rather take the stability of the DRFC job knowing I'd get time and resources than many Championship and League 1 basketcases who hire and fire in six months.
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Wenger to come in and get us that victory over Arsenal he's always known will happen - destiny.
Seriously though, recent appointments have usually surprised us, at least from this stage before the interviews have happened. I hope we get McCall, but that mystery surprise option could be the mouthwatering one :santa:
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I'm going to have a flutter at 25/1 with jimmy floyd hasselbaink
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Wellens and Grayson odds shortened
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Billy Sharp - 40/1
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I just cant see it being Wellens...For one he hasn't got any track record as a manager or coach and for two I'm sure the board have long memory's...I would love it to be Grayson though...
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Is that our shortlist?
McCall
Wellens
Grayson
Hopkins
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I bet there's people on it nowhere near in the betting.... betting means nothing yet.
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I bet there's people on it nowhere near in the betting.... betting means nothing yet.
I think the betting will give us a better guide over the next few days. Bits of info bound to get out.
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You can see the betting going doolally as an announcement becomes imminent. Someone will go odds on and then someone from left field will be announced! Keep your money in your pocket!
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I may be totally wrong, but I don't suspect that Simon Grayson will have applied for the job; I don't think he would deem us as a big enough club.
Thats similar to what I wonder,Not so much we not big enough,but I'd guess he might think we not prepared to spend as much as quickly as he would want us to.
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If McCall, Grayson and Hopkin are all still in the top 4/5 then I'm pleased, means we're likely to get someone with some capability.
It is only the bookies who have those three in the top 4/5 so it doesn’t mean much really.
We could still end up with someone else.
When the odds of a candidate become odds on,thats the time to take it seriously,until then,the odds are only useful for those who want to gamble on who it will be.
Based on that theory then the job is going to McCall.
No,It's time to take McCall's chances of getting the job seriously! ;)
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Anyone on Bawtry-watch?
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I'm going to have a flutter at 25/1 with jimmy floyd hasselbaink
How much have you put on?! You've dropped the odds to 10/1
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The market will not have that much liquidity compared so it wouldn't take much to drop from 25's to 10's
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The market will not have that much liquidity compared so it wouldn't take much to drop from 25's to 10's
No but will still take a decent amount of money to move the line, a good few hundred pounds not £20 like some people think
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I don't have any inside info just personally I think he is the kind we will got for. I don't even know if he is being interviewed.
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I don't have any inside info just personally I think he is the kind we will got for. I don't even know if he is being interviewed.
I would agree, out of the list he seems the most realistic. Im not convinced Grayson or McCall would be that interested in us, think they could get a top league one club if they waited
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Agreed Yeah I think even at that price McCall could be worth a lay. Stranger things have happened though.
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In a face to face setting, I can imagine McCall and Hasselbank coming across very well. Again, assuming they've chucked their cards in.
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And still no mention of Danny Wilson!?
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I would say probably Hasslebaink dropped ta clanger taking the QPR job, in the same way as Saunders to Wolves I suppose.
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Darrell Clark the Bristol rovers manger has just entered the market at 16/1. Would be a good appointment but doubt he would leave them for us.
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I'm pleased he is not in it. Garbage.
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Danny Wilson hops, skips and jumps from one SY team to another, I think Rovers are the only SY team he hasn't managed. He must have applied for the job. Another one not mentioned is Phil Brown, did well at Hull and ok at Southend.
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Brown not long since took the Swindon job.
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Brown not long since took the Swindon job.
I didn't know that, thanks for the info bfyp :)
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The market will not have that much liquidity compared so it wouldn't take much to drop from 25's to 10's
No but will still take a decent amount of money to move the line, a good few hundred pounds not £20 like some people think
16/1 available JFH.
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Danny Wilson could be the answer to Mary’s prayer
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The market will not have that much liquidity compared so it wouldn't take much to drop from 25's to 10's
No but will still take a decent amount of money to move the line, a good few hundred pounds not £20 like some people think
16/1 available JFH.
Now 8/1. Must be on the short list.
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The market will not have that much liquidity compared so it wouldn't take much to drop from 25's to 10's
No but will still take a decent amount of money to move the line, a good few hundred pounds not £20 like some people think
16/1 available JFH.
Now 8/1. Must be on the short list.
Would imagine so!
Just checked the Bradford betting, Fergie has come in as second favourite
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There is no way DF would consider working with the City board and their policies.
They are far worse than his perception of our board's shortcomings.
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Hasslebank now into 2/1 with skybet
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Not surprising given people on here talking aboutbit. People will be betting.
Be surprised if he hasn't applied.
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Alan Irvine up to 10/1
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jfh has just gone favourite on skybet at 6/4
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Jfh as shot up the betting fast someone as put a lot of money on him to move that quick
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Jfh as shot up the betting fast someone as put a lot of money on him to move that quick
They don’t have because you can’t get a lot of money on in these markets.
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Jfh as shot up the betting fast someone as put a lot of money on him to move that quick
They don’t have because you can’t get a lot of money on in these markets.
Skybet will let me put £336 (random) max on this market.
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Alan Irvine up to 10/1
Come out of nowhere.
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I wouldn't be very pleased if JfH was appointed as he did nothing of note at Northampton. However I seem to recall that Lee Clark was favourite last time we recruited a manager and at one stage there was a lot of money going on him.
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Jfh as shot up the betting fast someone as put a lot of money on him to move that quick
They don’t have because you can’t get a lot of money on in these markets.
Skybet will let me put £336 (random) max on this market.
It’s not random it’s for them to lose about £500. If he was 50/1 they’d let you have a tenner on.
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I wouldn't be very pleased if JfH was appointed as he did nothing of note at Northampton. However I seem to recall that Lee Clark was favourite last time we recruited a manager and at one stage there was a lot of money going on him.
Would he be better with a pre-season?
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I wouldn't be very pleased if JfH was appointed as he did nothing of note at Northampton. However I seem to recall that Lee Clark was favourite last time we recruited a manager and at one stage there was a lot of money going on him.
Would he be better with a pre-season?
Northampton were in a bit of a mess long before he got there.
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I wouldn't be very pleased if JfH was appointed as he did nothing of note at Northampton. However I seem to recall that Lee Clark was favourite last time we recruited a manager and at one stage there was a lot of money going on him.
Would he be better with a pre-season?
Northampton were in a bit of a mess long before he got there.
They certainly were. But he didn’t exactly turn it around despite being backed to bring in players.
I’m not convinced by him. Granted we could do worse (he’d be preferable to Lee Clark for example) but from 150 applicants I’d hope he’s not the best option we have. His managerial career has been going the wrong way after a good start - some would argue helped by a squad put together by Nigel Clough.
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The one common theme on here is “not Lee Clarke”.
What if he gets the job.
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The one common theme on here is “not Lee Clarke”.
What if he gets the job.
I've got a bottle of Famous Grouse I've not opened yet, I'll find my way to the bottom of that I reckon.
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What I would be interested in knowing is who exactly will be doing the interviewing??
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What I would be interested in knowing is who exactly will be doing the interviewing??
Watson and Baldwin I assume. Maybe Blunt.
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https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2783340/warburton-mccall-hopkin-rangers-livingston-doncaster-manager/ (https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/2783340/warburton-mccall-hopkin-rangers-livingston-doncaster-manager/)
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I don't expect that article is based in fact but if Mark Warburton has applied he'd be an outstanding choice.
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It's interesting to think why having some success in Scotland is seemingly valued over and above having some success in England. I would have thought the former was a lot, lot easier.
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Agreed, I reckon me and you could manage Celtic to another title next season Copps.
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I would be very happy with
One of
Warburton/McCall/
Grayson/Heckingbottom/
Hopkin/McDermott
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I would be very happy with
One of
Warburton/McCall/
Grayson/Heckingbottom/
Hopkin/McDermott
Take heckingbottom out of that list, and I'd be ok with them.
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Warburton would be a good fit for us. Given time, as our managers normally are, I think we'd achieve Championship status.
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It's interesting to think why having some success in Scotland is seemingly valued over and above having some success in England. I would have thought the former was a lot, lot easier.
I agree. But my favourable opinion of McCall and Warburton is based on their encouraging work at Bradford and Brentford respectively.
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As far as Hopkin is concerned i think he's due some credit over achieving in Scotland is still overachieving. However i do think it'd be a culture shock going from managing players of the lower scottish league standard to managing players like Copps and Rowe
i'm put off by him because he reminds me a lot of fatty evans :unsure:
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Names on shortlist.
1 McCall
2 heckingbottom
3. Hasselbank
4?
5?
6?
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Names on shortlist.
1 McCall
2 heckingbottom
3. Hasselbank
4?
5?
6?
Says who ?
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Would love to say more but can't, somebody would lose there job.
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Just say it lol
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Would love to say more but can't, somebody would lose there job.
How would anyone know who had told you.
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Would love to say more but can't, somebody would lose there job.
How would anyone know who had told you.
Ask Lifelong Supporter.
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Would love to say more but can't, somebody would lose there job.
Say, otherwise you look like a knob.
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Not sure on JFH - personally prefer McCall or Hopkin, but I'll accept and support whomever the board choose and carry on supporting the team.............next year could be a big one..
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Names on shortlist.
1 McCall
2 heckingbottom
3. Hasselbank
4?
5?
6?
Not Hecky, rumour has it he's taking time off.
McCall
Hasselbaink
Warburton
Hopkin
Irvine
And one other.
In my opinion
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My first choice is still Grayson, but Warburton would be a good appointment. Surprised he’s applied if true, thought he’d still be looking for a championship job.
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Grayson is my first choice also.
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Warburton would be a superb appointment for us.
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Names on shortlist.
1 McCall
2 heckingbottom
3. Hasselbank
4?
5?
6?
Not Hecky, rumour has it he's taking time off.
McCall
Hasselbaink
Warburton
Hopkin
Irvine
And one other.
In my opinion
Hopefully. That's a sexy list if you add in Grayson too.
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Warburton a stand our surely. But he's just a name. Names mean nothing as Ferguson proved.
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I'd take either Warburton or Hopkin - not that bothered with the others. However, that is based on nothing other than gut instinct and the type of manager I believe both of them are and how well they 'fit' what our Board are potentially looking for.
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Ferguson leaving has actually come at a good time for us with the amount of good quality managers out of a job e.g McCall, Grayson, Warbuton, Heckingbottom along with some wildcards such as Hopkin and McCann.
We've got a good chance of ending up with a manager who wouldn't normally be in our reach. I just hope the board appreciate this and try and get one of those managers whilst we can rather than ending up with a manager who is pretty average in JFH.
(Not saying they won't try or knocking the board btw but just hope this is the case)
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Agreed, I reckon me and you could manage Celtic to another title next season Copps.
Would definitely pay to watch any team that you and your mate Dickos managed.
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Warburton would be a superb appointment for us.
Warburton is the absolute standout of the names mentioned on this thread. Can’t see him being interested at all.
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Might want a lower profile but stable springboard after the Rangers debacle.
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What's odds on Warburton as boss and Forrester as first signing?
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Can someone enlighten me why you think Grayson would be a good choice. Genuine question.
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What's odds on Warburton as boss and Forrester as first signing?
1000000000000000000000/1
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What's odds on Warburton as boss and Forrester as first signing?
1000000000000000000000/1
I'll have a quid.
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Can someone enlighten me why you think Grayson would be a good choice. Genuine question.
Take away Sunderland and Bradford and he has a quality record at this level and a decent Championship record too.
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Can someone enlighten me why you think Grayson would be a good choice. Genuine question.
Four promotions from this division with four different clubs says it all.
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Mm. It's easy to forget where he's been. Certainly two terrific spells and he has the added bonus of Glynn as his right hand man, who's reputation as a coach is right up there. It maybe the perfect double act we're looking for. My only reservation is whether he still has the hunger.
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I don't think Grayson has applied. I doubt he sees us as contenders. He'll not want to risk another bad season at this point of his career.
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I think Warburton would be a great appointment. Did a great job at Brentford and wasn’t given much of a chance at forest. His teams play good football too. Like a few people have previously said though I would have thought he would be looking at a job in the championship when one comes up.
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Don't think Warburton would be interested because he'll be hanging on for another job at a Championship club after doing well at Brentford and being one of many to have experienced Forest's revolving door policy.
Problem for him is if he goes to a League One clubs and fails, he might think it's unlikely he'll ever get another job at Championship level unless he earns promotion into the division.
For that reason I'd rule him out.
But as you mention about revolving doors, he may look at us as a well run club where he will be given time to work on his project.
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Ferguson now odds on for the Bradford manager, does that free up Hopkins for us?
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well as you all now know it's now looking like JF Kennedy-Hasselblank ...
lest we forget Rovers scored 5 blanks at the end of the season
with hindsight and once we ALL took our blinkers off 5 blanks in a row is the recipe for a sacking at any other club not saying at all it would ever happen at DRFC- but the family events on that last match of the season might ? have influenced F ? "Q am I going anywhere here ?" who knows
but either way the dust had to be allowed to settle before any possible announcement could be made.
obviously F doesn't read the posts on here from our Bradford correspondant idler - who warned us pre-season Bradford were not the force of old. If Barnsley was further away from Doncaster and the rivalry etc was not so intense then F to them would have been a mutual good fit - but applying for a job there would be rubbing salt into ......
is Bradford any closer to his fathers home ? dunno
had to check JFK's management record forgot he won the 4th division seem to remember a lot of loanees in the team that was doing amazingly well (and we all said it couldnt last in the Shrewsbury style - and we were proved wrong again) til he left in December and Cluff did the rest so with hindsight he did well in his first stint
but at the Cobblers despite being given the job very early in the season he could not turn around a club that had on paper signed many a good player* (flashed the cash) and looked destined for the top 8 with ease pre-season (despite the problems over the building of the stand)
but Burton under him and attractive football ..... ??? not really
but a couple of young Chelsea loanees (one a striker) would make so much difference we all know what Bamford did at MK
and there's a lot of potential loanees from Tiddlebro he's probably told the board all these facts
* including one i suggested might turn up here not long ago
53 guests viewing this thread at 2 am in the morning :evil:
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Can someone enlighten me why you think Grayson would be a good choice. Genuine question.
Four promotions from this division with four different clubs says it all.
If there was a key to this job, that is it. However, the wise would see the influence of funding in two or more of those promotions.
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I see the Freepress states that 6 are being interviewed and then goes on to name 5 of the probable candidates. Perhaps it is just my suspicious mind but I have a feeling the real favourite for the job is the one they have not named.
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Well, by rights, all of them should have done their homework and they should be licking their lips looking at the basis of the squad and the young talent at their disposal. They will know they won't need to add too much to get the team very competitive. The more I think about it, any one of four have a great chance of succeeding. Plus, I think anyone of those four would be widely accepted by the fans.
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Has been said elsewhere but i think DF did us a favour leaving when there seems to be some decent appointments about for a change!
Don't think he had it in him to take us much further personally but some of the names mentioned probably do, just hope we don't all feel let down when the decision is made which is the danger now
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I trust the board to make the best decision. Their choice of Fergie was right at the time and I think we're in better shape than when he was appointed albeit in the same division.
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Think I’m going to have a few quid on Grant McCann looks a good price at 16/1
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Think I’m going to have a few quid on Grant McCann looks a good price at 16/1
25/1 with sky bet
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I’ve got any online accounts always use the shops to place a bet.
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Agreed, I reckon me and you could manage Celtic to another title next season Copps.
Would definitely pay to watch any team that you and your mate Dickos managed.
I can imagine it would be lively in the dressing room at half time if things weren’t going to plan.
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Would love to say more but can't, somebody would lose there job.
How would anyone know who had told you.
Ask Lifelong Supporter.
Don’t know what that means mate.
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Alan Irvine odds have dropped...
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Would love to say more but can't, somebody would lose there job.
How would anyone know who had told you.
Ask Lifelong Supporter.
Don’t know what that means mate.
At one time, Lifelong Supporter kept on going on about how he had a contact at the club. Because of quite a few leaks happening, the club deliberately gave a specific piece of misinformation to one (and only one) employee. Within 24 hours it was posted as the truth on this very forum. By Lifelong Supporter.
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Would love to say more but can't, somebody would lose there job.
How would anyone know who had told you.
Ask Lifelong Supporter.
Don’t know what that means mate.
At one time, Lifelong Supporter kept on going on about how he had a contact at the club. Because of quite a few leaks happening, the club deliberately gave a specific piece of misinformation to one (and only one) employee. Within 24 hours it was posted as the truth on this very forum. By Lifelong Supporter.
AKA DM? Not Danger Mouse.
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Money for Irvine today. Must be on the short list.
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Bloody well hope not!
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Would be a terrible appointment.
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Money for Irvine today. Must be on the short list.
Dropped to 5/1 when I checked earlier now into 4s
I think he would be a poor appointment
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He hasn't had a permanent job as a manager for four years, and he'd done bugger all to impress up to then anyway.
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Wellens still in top 4. Do we think maybe he has been shortlisted after all?
McCall
JFH
Irvine
Wellens
+2
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Wellens still in top 4. Do we think maybe he has been shortlisted after all?
McCall
JFH
Irvine
Wellens
+2
No chance.
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Wellens still in top 4. Do we think maybe he has been shortlisted after all?
McCall
JFH
Irvine
Wellens
+2
No chance.
This. Wellens has the same chance of Mark Weaver of being on the short list.
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Wellens still in top 4. Do we think maybe he has been shortlisted after all?
McCall
JFH
Irvine
Wellens
+2
No chance.
Fair enough 😄
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Would love to say more but can't, somebody would lose there job.
How would anyone know who had told you.
Ask Lifelong Supporter.
Don’t know what that means mate.
At one time, Lifelong Supporter kept on going on about how he had a contact at the club. Because of quite a few leaks happening, the club deliberately gave a specific piece of misinformation to one (and only one) employee. Within 24 hours it was posted as the truth on this very forum. By Lifelong Supporter.
I think you've got the wrong person.
When was this supposed to happen?
I've never claimed to have a contact at the club.
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It was in 2014. I could be mistaken in that you weren't told directly by the leaker inside the club but maybe instead indirectly by a third party, but you were definitely the first to mention the misinformation on here.
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Would love to say more but can't, somebody would lose there job.
How would anyone know who had told you.
Ask Lifelong Supporter.
Don’t know what that means mate.
At one time, Lifelong Supporter kept on going on about how he had a contact at the club. Because of quite a few leaks happening, the club deliberately gave a specific piece of misinformation to one (and only one) employee. Within 24 hours it was posted as the truth on this very forum. By Lifelong Supporter.
Cheers for that Glyn, I didn’t know.
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It was in 2014. I could be mistaken in that you weren't told directly by the leaker inside the club but maybe instead indirectly by a third party, but you were definitely the first to mention the misinformation on here.
I'm afraid you are very mistaken.
First you stated as fact that I kept going on about how I had a contact at the club, who then deliberately gave a specific piece of misinformation to one employee
Now it's maybe a third party.
Please accept it wasn't me.
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What was the misinformation anyway?
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What was the misinformation anyway?
Not important. The point was to address the originalpost of someone saying how would they know.
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Gary Caldwell into the betting at 14s. Definitely not the sort of appointment we need.
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Whoever it is that is appointed, the club are now not the sieve of information it once was, which is a good thing if only to keep us the supporters guessing and interested in the outcome.
The only certain thing that will come out of this is that whoever gets the job will be under the microscope from the first minute. The supporters who will be disappointed because their man did not get the job, will be waiting for him to slip up, those who are pleased will be hoping he wins his first few games, and breeds confidence.
Most of us will not be that bothered who gets the job, and will hope the board have chosen wisely, and the club will progress under the new manager.
The mystery to me is, has any internal applications been made, and are they in the mix being interviewed such as Strachan.
Its exciting and with the number of posts on this thread is a great talking point.
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At one time, Lifelong Supporter kept on going on about how he had a contact at the club. Because of quite a few leaks happening, the club deliberately gave a specific piece of misinformation to one (and only one) employee. Within 24 hours it was posted as the truth on this very forum. By Lifelong Supporter.
heh !
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Gary Caldwell into the betting at 14s. Definitely not the sort of appointment we need.
wow some underwhelming managers coming into the betting....at the wrong time!!!
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Gary Caldwell into the betting at 14s. Definitely not the sort of appointment we need.
wow some underwhelming managers coming into the betting....at the wrong time!!!
Bookies just trying to get some money out of the gullible, throw a name into the mix at just shorter than mid range price, who in all probability has got a chance of getting the job, some one will take the bait
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I sincerely hope that is the case, Filo, as, up to now, McCall looks like he's the only one with any record behind him.
I hope this isn't going to turn into a damp squib!
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Grant McCann in with a shout
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Grant McCann in with a shout
Been nibbled at in the betting today McCann. Hope we don’t go on a preseason trip to Portugal with him.
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Rather have Terry McCann
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Be happy with McCall or McCann
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Rather have Kate and Gerry McCann.
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The one thing that is apparent is that every name mentioned (except Caldwell) is met with some fans supporting him followed by some fans saying no...So not everybody is going to be happy regardless..
Whoever the club announce whether it's your choice or not,we are going to have to accept that..So it would be nice to see everybody getting behind him regardless of your personal opinion when they do announce because there wont be much anybody can do about it anyway....
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I tend to agree WC, but I'm not adverse to hearing people's opinions on anything when there is some reasoning expressed alongside it. Maybe I expect too much!
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Rather have Kate and Gerry McCann.
Best not to leave them in charge of the younger players...
:coat:
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Quite r
The one thing that is apparent is that every name mentioned (except Caldwell) is met with some fans supporting him followed by some fans saying no...So not everybody is going to be happy regardless..
Whoever the club announce whether it's your choice or not,we are going to have to accept that..So it would be nice to see everybody getting behind him regardless of your personal opinion when they do announce because there wont be much anybody can do about it anyway....
[/quote right W C we all need to get behind him whoever he is we will all have our moanabout it i have no problem with that if you dont like him, then all get behind him