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Title: Grant McCann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 25, 2018, 10:50:42 pm
Looking like he will be our new manager, his odds have dropped substantially today.

The poll results from earlier we 87/7 in favour of McCall, may not go down well but I think he would be a decent appointment
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Jonathan on June 25, 2018, 10:56:23 pm
From another thread:

Some interesting, if a little worrying, observations in the following link. Certainly some of the comparisons to be drawn with Ferguson’s confusing formations and reliance on a single goal scorer. https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/sport/football/posh/swanny-on-mccann-sacking-confused-thinking-and-poor-planning-made-a-managerial-change-inevitable-1-8392898

I would certainly much prefer McCall. But if it is to be McCann then hopefully he’s learned from his time at Peterborough and can get us playing.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Dare to dream! on June 25, 2018, 10:58:59 pm
Yes, would agree McCall looks a better option.

Reading that article what concerns me is that McCann seems to have a substantial budget behind him and still wasn’t successful
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Bentley Bullet on June 25, 2018, 11:02:33 pm
Yes, but if he can talk the talk .........
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: RoversAlias on June 25, 2018, 11:15:03 pm
He's a young manager, he will learn as he goes. Whether he's to be our new manager or not, I hope that the fans give that new manager support. Because we won't get anywhere as a club and team if we aren't united together.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Bentley Bullet on June 25, 2018, 11:18:59 pm
I for one always support the manager. I sometimes wish the owners appointed a manager who was easier to support though.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: RedJ on June 25, 2018, 11:59:37 pm
Yes, would agree McCall looks a better option.

Reading that article what concerns me is that McCann seems to have a substantial budget behind him and still wasn’t successful

Aye but he'll still be the cheap option to some! :laugh:
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Padge_DRFC on June 26, 2018, 12:09:22 am
What are the current odds? Abroad and can’t get on skybet
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: RoversAlias on June 26, 2018, 12:19:01 am
What are the current odds? Abroad and can’t get on skybet

2/1, still trailing McCall who is on 4/6.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: LincsRover on June 26, 2018, 12:24:03 am
Betvictor are 3/1 McCann and 2/5 McCall so still just favours McCall in the betting (as do I!), but it seems to be getting closer. At least Caldwell’s out to 16/1 so seems unlikely now. Maybe they’ve just found out McCann is one of the finalists and have dropped his price accordingly?
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: godlike1 on June 26, 2018, 05:27:46 am
Thing is..........how do they even know? Unless someone has told them?
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Jonathan on June 26, 2018, 06:45:45 am
Thing is..........how do they even know? Unless someone has told them?


There will always be leaks. If not from the club, then from someone on the side of the candidate or their representative. Word gets around and money gets lumped on.

While McCall still remains favourite (which he still is) I’ll remain hopeful. But his odds have drifted out a bit and McCann’s have come in.

It’s hard to see what McCann has over McCall. We’ll see what happens I guess.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 26, 2018, 06:53:15 am
Wait a minute....there was a thread saying that McCall would definitely be named manager yesterday.....
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Chris Black come back on June 26, 2018, 06:54:56 am
Ex-Dingle and SKitson.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: since-1969 on June 26, 2018, 06:55:21 am
....McCann  it’s like the twilight zone on here .
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: southwestexile on June 26, 2018, 12:15:03 pm
better McCann than McCan't

Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Boomstick on June 26, 2018, 12:42:59 pm
Better mcall than mcf**kall
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Retdon1 on June 26, 2018, 12:48:43 pm
He’s 1/20 now on skybet
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Padge_DRFC on June 26, 2018, 12:50:02 pm
He’s 1/20 now on skybet

McCall?
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Retdon1 on June 26, 2018, 12:53:20 pm
He’s 1/20 now on skybet

McCall?

No McCann is.. McCall 10/1
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Jonathan on June 26, 2018, 12:57:05 pm
His record is underwhelming and it’s a big surprise that he’s seemingly beaten McCall in the reckoning. Must have said some encouraging things at interviews so let’s hope he puts them into practice.

On the assumption that he is to be our new manager, I’ll fully support him no matter what my reservations are over this.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: RoversAlias on June 26, 2018, 01:00:07 pm
My thoughts exactly Jonathan. It is more if a gamble than McCall, definitely, but maybe they liked certain aspects of his character or ambitions more. Maybe McCall didn't seem as fully committed? All just musings these of course.

He's young, so I'm not going to put as much stock in his past record as I would someone with a decade odd under their belt in management. Managers at this age and stage of their career tend to go one way or another. He perhaps feels like the best "continuity" candidate to follow on from the Ferguson era, since the board never intended to be having to move on from that plan so soon.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Boomstick on June 26, 2018, 01:01:43 pm
Shit, this better not be right.
How a failed Peterborough manager is better than mcall, Grayson, hopkin etc is beyond me.  :headbang:
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Alan Southstand on June 26, 2018, 01:01:59 pm
I suggest everyone reads the attached article before getting excited. If you thought DF was bad, get ready.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: wing commander on June 26, 2018, 01:10:06 pm
   That's it guys...You two decide he's failed before he's even appointed...You are unbelievable
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Jonathan on June 26, 2018, 01:10:56 pm
I suggest everyone reads the attached article before getting excited.

It is worrying. McCall was known for playing attractive attacking football and got some good results from it. It’s a concern to see the inference that McCann’s Peterborough team was lacking in consistency, fluidity or purpose. But presumably the two stage interview got to the bottom of how this will be rectified going forward. As RoversAlias says, McCann is young enough to learn and let’s hope for our sake that he has / does.

It is certainly an appointment in hope more than anticipation.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on June 26, 2018, 01:11:38 pm
Equally some clubs didn't rate Penney or SOD.  Wouldn't be my choice i have to say but give the guy a chance it's only his second job if he gets it. Plus his stats aren't that bad!
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Retdon1 on June 26, 2018, 01:12:09 pm
I suggest everyone reads the attached article before getting excited. If you thought DF was bad, get ready.

Sounds like there writing about fergy
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Donny Exile in York on June 26, 2018, 01:13:16 pm
Well with McCann's record for all the DF doubters it's a case of be careful what you wish for.. totally underwhelmed by this appointment.. a backward step bigtime if it's the case.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: jamesrover17 on June 26, 2018, 01:14:22 pm
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/fuming-doesnt-cut-it-fans-react-after-grant-mccann-sacked-as-peterborough-boss-36644177.html

There is also this to go along with the Peterborough Today article, there is always two sides to a story!! Interesting that they only had lost 2 in 12 before sacking him, if draws went against us we would have had a revolving door of managers this past few years!! (tongue in cheek)

Good luck to the bloke if it is indeed him!
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: wesisback on June 26, 2018, 01:16:38 pm
   That's it guys...You two decide he's failed before he's even appointed...You are unbelievable
He hasn't failed. The team responsible for appointments have. Perhaps slightly more uninspiring as I gave them credit for.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on June 26, 2018, 01:21:42 pm
I don't get the kick back on this before its announced was he actually that bad at peterborough? A lot of Posh fans we're angry he was sacked and wanted to stick with him!

I'd prefer McCall because he's got more experience but young managers can hit it off in a big way in the right environment like Heckingbottom did.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: wing commander on June 26, 2018, 01:26:47 pm
   That's it guys...You two decide he's failed before he's even appointed...You are unbelievable
He hasn't failed. The team responsible for appointments have. Perhaps slightly more uninspiring as I gave them credit for.

Any manager is a gamble and some fit in better than others.If our board have interviewed all the candidates and come to the conclusion they think he's the best fit for us,then that's good enough for me...
   Lets not slaughter anybody before they walk through the gates else he's got no chance..
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: German Rover on June 26, 2018, 01:32:16 pm
Is McCann not the one Doolan did at Barnsley?
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Akinfenwa on June 26, 2018, 01:35:08 pm
That was McPhail I think.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Dutch Uncle on June 26, 2018, 01:35:50 pm
Is McCann not the one Doolan did at Barnsley?

GR - I think that was MacPhail

Edit: beaten to it  :blush:
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: DMnumber4 on June 26, 2018, 02:25:33 pm
Oster did McCann with an elbow at Glanford Park and was sent off. Went from 2-0 up to drawing 2-2.

Quinton Fortune also sent off.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: scawsby steve on June 26, 2018, 02:28:53 pm
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/fuming-doesnt-cut-it-fans-react-after-grant-mccann-sacked-as-peterborough-boss-36644177.html

There is also this to go along with the Peterborough Today article, there is always two sides to a story!! Interesting that they only had lost 2 in 12 before sacking him, if draws went against us we would have had a revolving door of managers this past few years!! (tongue in cheek)

Good luck to the bloke if it is indeed him!

An interesting article there James, however, it was more the tweets following it that took my eye; the fans seemed more impressed with the fact that he was a club legend as a player, similar to the situation with Ian Snodin for us. There is nothing in his record at Posh to suggest he is a good manager.

If it is him, I'm willing to give the bloke a chance; however, I cannot deny I'll be feeling disappointed and underwhelmed.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on June 26, 2018, 02:30:30 pm
The anomally with the betting is the lack of a third man. Therefore the favourite will only be due to someone betting.

I'd be interested to hear if Gaz knows the third man?
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: GazLaz on June 26, 2018, 02:31:01 pm
The anomally with the betting is the lack of a third man. Therefore the favourite will only be due to someone betting.

I'd be interested to hear if Gaz knows the third man?

McCann was the third candidate.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: northern soul on June 26, 2018, 02:38:39 pm
Weren't the three down as

Caldwell
McCall
McCann

Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on June 26, 2018, 02:45:05 pm
Weren't the three down as

Caldwell
McCall
McCann



So they were... I forgot about Caldwell, it's hard to keep up with this  :s

Interesting to see Hasselbaink higher up the ladder than Caldwell.
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: godlike1 on June 26, 2018, 02:53:23 pm
As I've said on twitter, the club have failed with their own criteria. If this is who it turns out to be then they are singlehandedly failing to donstrate any form of ambition or footballing knowledge and ruin my experience of supporting rovers. Oh and before any of you arse licking supporters of the bd come and have the same boring comments you always do.........I'm a rovers fan through and through and am entitled to my opinion.

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/paul-goodwin-fans-need-clarity-from-doncaster-rovers-hierarchy-following-darren-ferguson-s-resignation-1-9221873
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: wing commander on June 26, 2018, 02:59:03 pm
  Damm right you are entitled to your opinion Godlike...I just cant see how anybody can form much of a opinion based on forum posters saying there mates dog say's McCall turned it down, because he wants more money,more budget,a better car and Mccaan got it because he's a yes man working for peanuts...

    People post whatever rumours they like on here and for some of you that automatically becomes a fact,but what do I know I'm a board arse licker... lol

   
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Boomstick on June 26, 2018, 03:03:00 pm
As I've said on twitter, the club have failed with their own criteria. If this is who it turns out to be then they are singlehandedly failing to donstrate any form of ambition or footballing knowledge and ruin my experience of supporting rovers. Oh and before any of you arse licking supporters of the bd come and have the same boring comments you always do.........I'm a rovers fan through and through and am entitled to my opinion.

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/paul-goodwin-fans-need-clarity-from-doncaster-rovers-hierarchy-following-darren-ferguson-s-resignation-1-9221873
Spot on, its one thing saying it, its putting it into action that counts
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: Pancho Regan on June 26, 2018, 03:30:24 pm
McCall still ahead of McCann by 5 pages to 2 on this forum...

 ;)
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: roversdude on June 26, 2018, 07:57:49 pm
Maybe someone has borrowed one of the World Cup prophecy animals and put bowls of food with the prospective candidates faces on
Title: Re: Grant McCann
Post by: DearneValleyRover on June 26, 2018, 08:12:30 pm
Maybe someone has borrowed one of the World Cup prophecy animals and put bowls of food with the prospective candidates faces on

Got to be pie and peas