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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: the vicar on July 13, 2018, 11:51:33 am
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For Anthony Grant Peterborough, Barry fry says he turned down Shrewsbury to come and play for GM but Rovers won't pay the asking price
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Joan?
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:chair: it a’nt rite in it !
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Perhaps it’s because he’s in his 30s and we didn’t want to pay what their are asking. As the end of transfer window draws nearer maybe they will drop their asking price
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People moaning yet none of us actually know what this price is, do we? could be unrealistic for all we know. Same people jumping to conclusions.
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I have not jumped to anything have i, just told you about it
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What would be a realistic fee for a 31yr old.
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Ask Juventus :blush:
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People moaning yet none of us actually know what this price is, do we? could be unrealistic for all we know. Same people jumping to conclusions.
I don't think anyone is moaning.
Just reporting what's going on.
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I’ve said before on this information it’ll who blinks first. Are there not other players about who can play the centre three role or is he another special 30 year old like Taylor.
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Well a 33 year old has just gone for £105 million :laugh:
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Ask Juventus :blush:
Ah beat me to it!
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What would be a realistic fee for a 31yr old.
The word 'nominal' gets thrown around a lot with players...
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I have no quarmes with them not paying the fee, I just think it's Peterborough inflating the price cos we would not cooperating with them over marquis
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They maybe hope to get JM for Grant plus money.
That didn't exactly work well with the James Husband deal.
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I have no quarmes with them not paying the fee, I just think it's Peterborough inflating the price cos we would not cooperating with them over marquis
Yes I believe that is the case. AG is a central midfield player, who likes to break up play and is combative the reason he has been transfer listed is SE does not believe he will suit his 442 system he wants to play.
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IT also shows that GM is still looking for players to strengthen the team.
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I have no quarmes with them not paying the fee, I just think it's Peterborough inflating the price cos we would not cooperating with them over marquis
Yes I believe that is the case. AG is a central midfield player, who likes to break up play and is combative the reason he has been transfer listed is SE does not believe he will suit his 442 system he wants to play.
It also follows the pattern at Posh that players with a year left on their contract are transfer listed so they can at least get a fee for them rather than them leave for free the following year. It will be interesting to see how many if any of the players listed make the starting 11 or sub bench come August
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If Steve Evans and Barry Fry are involved Grant will be worth 25% of what they are asking.
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I have no quarmes with them not paying the fee, I just think it's Peterborough inflating the price cos we would not cooperating with them over marquis
Yes I believe that is the case. AG is a central midfield player, who likes to break up play and is combative the reason he has been transfer listed is SE does not believe he will suit his 442 system he wants to play.
It also follows the pattern at Posh that players with a year left on their contract are transfer listed so they can at least get a fee for them rather than them leave for free the following year. It will be interesting to see how many if any of the players listed make the starting 11 or sub bench come August
They’ve already signed 11 players and bids in for others so if the transfer listed players don’t go they are going to have a large squad to fund.
By the way Rigo the transfer window closes after 1 game so not much time to get it right.
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If pboro have go that many in and struggle to move on a good number of the transfer listed players i'm sure their stance on the fee's will change
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We found out to our cost last year that even when an offer comes in the player concerned might rather sit tight and weight.
I'm sure that GM and Grant himself know that his value will only go down.
Any reduction in a transfer fee can then go towards wages and signing on fee.
We were well stitched up with that when Billy Sharp finally moved to Southampton.
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If we're not going back in for him McCann would have told Grant so he can find himself a new club. He'll be in communication and will have said hold off and we'll come back in for him.
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DRFC have made no approaches for any Peterborough player. No bids have been made at all so its 100% false that we wouldn't pay the asking fee.
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DRFC have made no approaches for any Peterborough player. No bids have been made at all so its 100% false that we wouldn't pay the asking fee.
Barry fry has said we approached them for grant. Their owner confirmed last week we had enquired about 2 of their transfer listed players... are you saying their both telling lies ?
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DRFC have made no approaches for any Peterborough player. No bids have been made at all so its 100% false that we wouldn't pay the asking fee.
Approaches and enquiries are different things. You can also be put off but a price without making a bid as well.
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This is what the Peterborough owner has just said when asked if we had been in for grant
They agreed fee, then went back on it, spoke to player via new manager etc and general mess up so not interested after all that. If they want him, they pay fee required, end of story. Its not the big a fee for player of his caliber. And what we paid for him.
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DRFC have made no approaches for any Peterborough player. No bids have been made at all so its 100% false that we wouldn't pay the asking fee.
Barry fry has said we approached them for grant. Their owner confirmed last week we had enquired about 2 of their transfer listed players... are you saying their both telling lies ?
I spoke to Gavin this morning, this came up, and he insisted we hadn't made an offer for any Peterborough player.
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DRFC have made no approaches for any Peterborough player. No bids have been made at all so its 100% false that we wouldn't pay the asking fee.
Barry fry has said we approached them for grant. Their owner confirmed last week we had enquired about 2 of their transfer listed players... are you saying their both telling lies ?
I spoke to Gavin this morning, this came up, and he insisted we hadn't made an offer for any Peterborough player.
Probably because we were trying to tap him up going on what their owner has said!
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DRFC have made no approaches for any Peterborough player. No bids have been made at all so its 100% false that we wouldn't pay the asking fee.
Barry fry has said we approached them for grant. Their owner confirmed last week we had enquired about 2 of their transfer listed players... are you saying their both telling lies ?
I spoke to Gavin this morning, this came up, and he insisted we hadn't made an offer for any Peterborough player.
Probably because we were trying to tap him up going on what their owner has said!
But we weren't. They wanted to offload Grant, we didn't want him.
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is it tapping up a player if they've been told to leave? similar to Mandeville and Garrett, not really tapping up in my eyes
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From the POSH owner on twitter
https://twitter.com/DMAC102/status/1017779643854843904
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Grant hasn't been told to leave, he wants to leave. All they have done is the same as they do to all players with a year left to run on their contract. And that is to put them on the transfer list, not that they want them to go.
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DRFC have made no approaches for any Peterborough player. No bids have been made at all so its 100% false that we wouldn't pay the asking fee.
Barry fry has said we approached them for grant. Their owner confirmed last week we had enquired about 2 of their transfer listed players... are you saying their both telling lies ?
I spoke to Gavin this morning, this came up, and he insisted we hadn't made an offer for any Peterborough player.
Probably because we were trying to tap him up going on what their owner has said!
But we weren't. They wanted to offload Grant, we didn't want him.
The Peterborough owner has just confirmed we agreed a price with them and then withdrew it.
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The plot thickens!
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Either silent majority is being fed rubbish from our board, or the Peterborough owners are talking rubbish. Impossible to know who to believe!
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Either silent majority is being fed rubbish from our board, or the Peterborough owners are talking rubbish. Impossible to know who to believe!
Well Barry Fry has form for talking utter tosh. Would you buy a second hand car from him?
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Grant hasn't been told to leave, he wants to leave. All they have done is the same as they do to all players with a year left to run on their contract. And that is to put them on the transfer list, not that they want them to go.
Reading an article SE says he talked to him at length and agree he wouldn’t fit into the 442 so he agreed he could leave as he’s better in a three.
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Think I would rather believe what sm tells us.
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From the POSH owner on twitter
https://twitter.com/DMAC102/status/1017779643854843904
he ain't that POSH an owner --- when he bought the club he only "allegedly" paid £1 :scarf:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darragh_MacAnthony#cite_ref-9
and now he's only a co-owner for the avoidance of doubt he sold half of the club for more than 50 pence.
2nd March 2008
Peterborough United owner Darragh MacAnthony has sold half of his stake in the League One club. Canada-based investors Dr Jason Neale and Stewart Thompson have become co-owners with immediate effect.
rumour is that the "food budget" has hit the roof at Peterborough but they certainly are making a meal out of this non deal
from what i've "been seeing" the "family silver" is being sold off there maybe to buy a "golden geeze"r a "Marquis signing" ?
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Think I would rather believe what sm tells us.
Trouble is a lot of our supporters dislike our owners that much ,they would rather believe what others say.
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Think I would rather believe what sm tells us.
Trouble is a lot of our supporters dislike our owners that much ,they would rather believe what others say.
I think there’s more reason for GB to spin the truth than their owner to make something up out of the blue.
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Think I would rather believe what sm tells us.
Trouble is a lot of our supporters dislike our owners that much ,they would rather believe what others say.
and want to go down the Stockport Halifax York Hartlepool Chesterfield etc route
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DRFC have made no approaches for any Peterborough player. No bids have been made at all so its 100% false that we wouldn't pay the asking fee.
Barry fry has said we approached them for grant. Their owner confirmed last week we had enquired about 2 of their transfer listed players... are you saying their both telling lies ?
I spoke to Gavin this morning, this came up, and he insisted we hadn't made an offer for any Peterborough player.
Probably because we were trying to tap him up going on what their owner has said!
But we weren't. They wanted to offload Grant, we didn't want him.
The Peterborough owner has just confirmed we agreed a price with them and then withdrew it.
Peterborough approached us enquiring about Marquis, they wanted to throw Grant into the pot. They were told Marquis wasn't for sale. End of.
Looks like sour grapes from Peterborough if you ask me.
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Peterborough would have to put me on the rack and in thumb screws to make me believe anyone who employs Fry and Evans before Silent majority or anyone else.
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Think I would rather believe what sm tells us.
Trouble is a lot of our supporters dislike our owners that much ,they would rather believe what others say.
I think there’s more reason for GB to spin the truth than their owner to make something up out of the blue.
Interesting Gaz that you would tend to believe Barry Fry over Gavin Baldwin.
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Think I would rather believe what sm tells us.
Trouble is a lot of our supporters dislike our owners that much ,they would rather believe what others say.
I think there’s more reason for GB to spin the truth than their owner to make something up out of the blue.
Interesting Gaz that you would tend to believe Barry Fry over Gavin Baldwin.
I didn’t say Barry Fry, as he doesn’t own them. I didn’t say anything was cut and dried either. I can just see more reasons for Baldwin to spin the truth a bit rather than it being from their end.
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Think I would rather believe what sm tells us.
Trouble is a lot of our supporters dislike our owners that much ,they would rather believe what others say.
I think there’s more reason for GB to spin the truth than their owner to make something up out of the blue.
Interesting Gaz that you would tend to believe Barry Fry over Gavin Baldwin.
I didn’t say Barry Fry, as he doesn’t own them. I didn’t say anything was cut and dried either. I can just see more reasons for Baldwin to spin the truth a bit rather than it being from their end.
So which party has been on social media putting across their point of view? Nothing from DRFC.
I would suggest the only ones doing spinning sit 100 miles south of us.
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Peterborough are trying to get rid, they've got every reason to try and make it look as if there's interest in him.
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More so if Shrewsbury are making a bid if they think we're in for them too it can only help peterborough
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Think I would rather believe what sm tells us.
Trouble is a lot of our supporters dislike our owners that much ,they would rather believe what others say.
I think there’s more reason for GB to spin the truth than their owner to make something up out of the blue.
Interesting Gaz that you would tend to believe Barry Fry over Gavin Baldwin.
I didn’t say Barry Fry, as he doesn’t own them. I didn’t say anything was cut and dried either. I can just see more reasons for Baldwin to spin the truth a bit rather than it being from their end.
That seems a little bit like dancing on the head of a pin Gaz.
You seemed to suggest that you would believe what was said by the owners of Peterborough Utd rather than believe what was said by those in charge of our club.
Or am I misunderstanding?
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Gaz is saying we'd have the most to gain by not telling the truth if an offer was made and we pulled out not that he believes peterborough, i mean he might but thats not whats been said
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What would we have to gain though?
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Ask Gaz, seems to me they'd have more to gain by drumming up "fake" bids on their players when other teams are making bids...
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Maybe DF was sounding a player or two of theirs out.
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Maybe DF was sounding a player or two of theirs out.
No, he wasn't.
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Maybe Peterborough trying to unsettle JM then.
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Either silent majority is being fed rubbish from our board, or the Peterborough owners are talking rubbish. Impossible to know who to believe!
I know who I believe.
SM claimed we had no bids for marquis, right before Mcann and the Aberdeen chairman confirmed there had been bids.
something really is quite fishy at the club
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DRFC have made no approaches for any Peterborough player. No bids have been made at all so its 100% false that we wouldn't pay the asking fee.
aye right, you also said we hadn't had bids for marquis
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DRFC have made no approaches for any Peterborough player. No bids have been made at all so its 100% false that we wouldn't pay the asking fee.
aye right, you also said we hadn't had bids for marquis
We haven't had any bids, we've had enquiries but no bids. Its quite simple really.
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Think I would rather believe what sm tells us.
Trouble is a lot of our supporters dislike our owners that much ,they would rather believe what others say.
and want to go down the Stockport Halifax York Hartlepool Chesterfield etc route
you lot don't half talk a lot of SHIT, what rovers want Rovers to fail and go that bad PLEASE TALK SOME SENCE FOR ONCE
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DRFC have made no approaches for any Peterborough player. No bids have been made at all so its 100% false that we wouldn't pay the asking fee.
aye right, you also said we hadn't had bids for marquis
We haven't had any bids, we've had enquiries but no bids. Its quite simple really.
agree, its really simple.
we have had bids for marquis, it really is that simple.
What's confusing, is why you keep doing your best comical Ali impression, and keep denying it.
McCann added: "It was on my first day when two bids came in for John. Actually it was three with one from a Championship club as well that haven't made it public.
Read more at: https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers/doncaster-rovers-mccann-won-t-stand-in-way-of-marquis-if-he-wants-to-move-1-9241652
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Is that it? Something in the DFP as opposed to what our CEO has explained?
OK, if you must.
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Is that it? Something in the DFP as opposed to what our CEO has explained?
can you point me to anything that shows our CEO explaining the situation ?
OK, if you must.
its what Mcann is quoted as saying man! along with the Peterborough and Aberdeen chairman.
are you saying they are all in cahoots and lying?
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Bids, enquiries, quick phone calls, mentioned in passing, had a word, firm offers, met his agent on the way to the bus.
All taken as read, turned on it’s head ( see what I did there) and interpreted by different people at different times and passed on (Chinese Whispers) Mentoned in interviews, said the word ‘bid’ when was told it was a telephone call enquiry and got the actual facts completely wrong. Bad use of the English language if you like.
My take: Phone rings 📞 Hi Gav how you doing? Is John for sale? : 🙄😂👎 Nope! : 📞OK goodbye.
Just had a call about John.......
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So Aberdeen have said publicly they bid, Peterborough have publicly say they bid, Grant McCann says they’ve bid..... but no bids have come in???? We all know Baldwin’s a yes man... but it’s another case of lying to the fans... the boards a joke
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All the board ever had to say was "There is not the money in the coffers as in previous years and our aim is to achieve a League One mid-table position this coming season".
Simple and short. There would be no need for bickering, arguing, fighting, speculation and over expectation.
I could live with that.
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Well, the CEO has stated there is more money available than last season, so no need to even discuss that is there Michael.
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So Aberdeen have said publicly they bid, Peterborough have publicly say they bid, Grant McCann says they’ve bid..... but no bids have come in???? We all know Baldwin’s a prick and a yes man... but it’s another case of lying to the fans... the boards a joke
You need to temper your language. There's no need for that.
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All the board ever had to say was "There is not the money in the coffers as in previous years and our aim is to achieve a League One mid-table position this coming season".
Simple and short. There would be no need for bickering, arguing, fighting, speculation and over expectation.
I could live with that.
Why would they make something up just to allow you to wallow in your misery?
One of these days people like you will drive the board, and their money, away. And then what?
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All the board ever had to say was "There is not the money in the coffers as in previous years and our aim is to achieve a League One mid-table position this coming season".
Simple and short. There would be no need for bickering, arguing, fighting, speculation and over expectation.
I could live with that.
They've literally said the opposite.
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Some people take this all far far too seriously.
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Some people take this all far far too seriously.
On the contrary, it strikes me that some people get their jollies from this.
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For Anthony Grant Peterborough, Barry fry says he turned down Shrewsbury to come and play for GM but Rovers won't pay the asking price
The player has all the cards, if he wants to come here he can force their hand over the fee
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Bids, enquiries, quick phone calls, mentioned in passing, had a word, firm offers, met his agent on the way to the bus.
All taken as read, turned on it’s head ( see what I did there) and interpreted by different people at different times and passed on (Chinese Whispers) Mentoned in interviews, said the word ‘bid’ when was told it was a telephone call enquiry and got the actual facts completely wrong. Bad use of the English language if you like.
My take: Phone rings 📞 Hi Gav how you doing? Is John for sale? : 🙄😂👎 Nope! : 📞OK goodbye.
Just had a call about John.......
Maybe there was an extra couple of lines exchange in the middle of that phone call:
Is John for sale?
No
Not for say 500k
No
OK Bye
One side says we made a bid of 500k
The other says no bids received, and are correct because no official detailed bid has been sent in writing.
I have total faith and trust in SM and our club.
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So Aberdeen have said publicly they bid, Peterborough have publicly say they bid, Grant McCann says they’ve bid..... but no bids have come in???? We all know Baldwin’s a prick and a yes man... but it’s another case of lying to the fans... the boards a joke
And we’ve said they haven’t! 😂 You sound like my kids when their arguing. He said this, and this. No I didn’t said the other. My wife says I said things I didn’t say and I say things but what really mean is......
I know who I believe. Why would there be a hidden agenda?
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So Aberdeen have said publicly they bid, Peterborough have publicly say they bid, Grant McCann says they’ve bid..... but no bids have come in???? We all know Baldwin’s a prick and a yes man... but it’s another case of lying to the fans... the boards a joke
Absolutely no need for this!!
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Don't really think it makes any difference but for arguments sake your both prob right, McCann seems to be quoted as saying we had 2 bids where gavin says not, maybe be easier if the said people sing off same hymn sheet
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All the board ever had to say was "There is not the money in the coffers as in previous years and our aim is to achieve a League One mid-table position this coming season".
Simple and short. There would be no need for bickering, arguing, fighting, speculation and over expectation.
I could live with that.
Why would they make something up just to allow you to wallow in your misery?
One of these days people like you will drive the board, and their money, away. And then what?
Then someone else will come along as has happened for years and years.
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Careful what you wish for
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Careful what you wish for
Who wished for anything?
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The club have said JM is not for sale stick by that and all paper talk, tweets and social media don’t count. He’s not for sale.
Then the club go out and get at least one centre midfield player I’d like two and a another JM type striker that kid from Bristol City would do.
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Don't be naive Steve. Everyone has their price. If someone came along with the right offer we would take it.
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Cantley the last thing i am is naive the club wants top six we don’t sell JM.
We will see how the club performs in this case. We can all comment after August the 9th. Then it could be tin hat time for the board.
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Cantley the last thing i am is naive the club wants top six we don’t sell JM.
We will see how the club performs in this case. We can all comment after August the 9th. Then it could be tin hat time for the board.
Well we keep getting told the club is run by businessmen and I am convinced that if a decent offer came in for JM they would take it.
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Cantley the last thing i am is naive the club wants top six we don’t sell JM.
We will see how the club performs in this case. We can all comment after August the 9th. Then it could be tin hat time for the board.
Well we keep getting told the club is run by businessmen and I am convinced that if a decent offer came in for JM they would take it.
Why does them being businessmen mean they would be more likely to sell him?
I'm a businessman and I know that it would cost me far more to replace my best people than it does to keep them happy and feeling appreciated.
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Just another stick to use...
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Richard Branson said it best train your staff so they can leave but treat them so they don’t want to leave.
Now marquis has not really settled anywhere until joining us and has now found his feet goal scoring wise so who’s to say he wants to leave
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Cantley the last thing i am is naive the club wants top six we don’t sell JM.
We will see how the club performs in this case. We can all comment after August the 9th. Then it could be tin hat time for the board.
Well we keep getting told the club is run by businessmen and I am convinced that if a decent offer came in for JM they would take it.
Why does them being businessmen mean they would be more likely to sell him?
I'm a businessman and I know that it would cost me far more to replace my best people than it does to keep them happy and feeling appreciated.
The skill in football is picking up players like JM, selling them for the maximum then replacing them for a fraction of the price. Easier said than done but possible.
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Cantley the last thing i am is naive the club wants top six we don’t sell JM.
We will see how the club performs in this case. We can all comment after August the 9th. Then it could be tin hat time for the board.
Well we keep getting told the club is run by businessmen and I am convinced that if a decent offer came in for JM they would take it.
Why does them being businessmen mean they would be more likely to sell him?
I'm a businessman and I know that it would cost me far more to replace my best people than it does to keep them happy and feeling appreciated.
The skill in football is picking up players like JM, selling them for the maximum then replacing them for a fraction of the price. Easier said than done but possible.
Gaz at league one level it’s even harder to do that in my opinion.
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Cantley the last thing i am is naive the club wants top six we don’t sell JM.
We will see how the club performs in this case. We can all comment after August the 9th. Then it could be tin hat time for the board.
Well we keep getting told the club is run by businessmen and I am convinced that if a decent offer came in for JM they would take it.
Why does them being businessmen mean they would be more likely to sell him?
I'm a businessman and I know that it would cost me far more to replace my best people than it does to keep them happy and feeling appreciated.
The skill in football is picking up players like JM, selling them for the maximum then replacing them for a fraction of the price. Easier said than done but possible.
Gaz at league one level it’s even harder to do that in my opinion.
It is difficult. There are a plenty of good players out there, there aren’t a lot of people good enough to spot them though.
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All the board ever had to say was "There is not the money in the coffers as in previous years and our aim is to achieve a League One mid-table position this coming season".
Simple and short. There would be no need for bickering, arguing, fighting, speculation and over expectation.
I could live with that.
Why would they make something up just to allow you to wallow in your misery?
One of these days people like you will drive the board, and their money, away. And then what?
Then someone else will come along as has happened for years and years.
Oh dear. Have you not seen what happens to clubs who just assume someone coming in to take over is going to be good at it, or keep their promises?
Barry Hearn took Leyton Orient to the brink of the Championship then decided someone else would be better to do that. He handed the club over to Francesco Becchetti and within 3 years Orient were a non-league team having to put together an entirely new squad and needed bucket collections at games to try and stay in existence.
Be careful what you wish for indeed. And maybe be a bit more grateful this club has sensible owners with real money who care about the well-being of their town's football club.
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All the board ever had to say was "There is not the money in the coffers as in previous years and our aim is to achieve a League One mid-table position this coming season".
Simple and short. There would be no need for bickering, arguing, fighting, speculation and over expectation.
I could live with that.
Why would they make something up just to allow you to wallow in your misery?
One of these days people like you will drive the board, and their money, away. And then what?
Then someone else will come along as has happened for years and years.
Your complacency is breathtaking. Don’t you know when you’re well off?
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Cantley the last thing i am is naive the club wants top six we don’t sell JM.
We will see how the club performs in this case. We can all comment after August the 9th. Then it could be tin hat time for the board.
Well we keep getting told the club is run by businessmen and I am convinced that if a decent offer came in for JM they would take it.
Why does them being businessmen mean they would be more likely to sell him?
I'm a businessman and I know that it would cost me far more to replace my best people than it does to keep them happy and feeling appreciated.
The skill in football is picking up players like JM, selling them for the maximum then replacing them for a fraction of the price. Easier said than done but possible.
Well it's a good job these guys are businessmen and not football men, isn't it! ;)
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All the board ever had to say was "There is not the money in the coffers as in previous years and our aim is to achieve a League One mid-table position this coming season".
Simple and short. There would be no need for bickering, arguing, fighting, speculation and over expectation.
I could live with that.
Why would they make something up just to allow you to wallow in your misery?
One of these days people like you will drive the board, and their money, away. And then what?
Then someone else will come along as has happened for years and years.
Perhaps Ken Richardson is still interested?
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So Aberdeen have said publicly they bid, Peterborough have publicly say they bid, Grant McCann says they’ve bid..... but no bids have come in???? We all know Baldwin’s a yes man... but it’s another case of lying to the fans... the boards a joke
Disgraceful post.
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So Aberdeen have said publicly they bid, Peterborough have publicly say they bid, Grant McCann says they’ve bid..... but no bids have come in???? We all know Baldwin’s a yes man... but it’s another case of lying to the fans... the boards a joke
Well well, if you've got any balls to back up you statement you've got the chance to ask them face to face this week
NEWS | #DRFC manager Grant McCann and chief executive Gavin Baldwin will attend the Supporters Club and North Branch AGMs this week.
bit.ly/2uBifkN
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Shit all chance of that happening.