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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: mushRTID on August 02, 2018, 06:04:16 pm
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Until January
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lets hope he is what we need, think he could be.
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https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/herbie-kane-liverpool-bristol-city-1212908
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About thyme we signed a decent midfielder...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOYDcZn924 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOYDcZn924)
That voice.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOYDcZn924 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOYDcZn924)
That voice.
No idea what it is!?
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Upgrade on Houghton by the looks of it... VERY highly rated at Liverpool, Stevie G had him as his captain for the U-23’s last season, I think he knows a fair bit about centre midfielders!
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About thyme we signed a decent midfielder...
sure he'll nutmeg a few players
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Underwhelming. Why couldn’t we sign a proven player?
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this lad could make you look silly Gaz, at 19 he is old enough and will have learnt from Gerrard.
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this lad could make you look silly Gaz, at 19 he is old enough and will have learnt from Gerrard.
Old enough for what? To buy beer?
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this lad could make you look silly Gaz, at 19 he is old enough and will have learnt from Gerrard.
I hope he does. Not many 19 year olds can run a L1 midfield in their first taste of league football. Massive ask, I don’t care what anyone says. There obviously wasn’t the money there to sign the experienced enforcer we need.
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If the football club makes some people so unhappy why do they bother?
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Maybe there wasn't the older experienced head available, maybe the manager doesn't want an older experienced head in the middle, maybe he knows exactly what he wants and this young player is exactly that. Maybe the new manager sees this player as worth a decent sum to his parent club and is prepared to pay it if he comes good on loan. I dunno how not spending money on an 'older experienced mester' tells folk there's no money! But hey-ho it is what it is!
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Careful Al, you'll be called gullible and accused of arse kissing if you don't watch out.
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Maybe Neil from The Young Ones moved to Donny when he failed his exams? :laugh:
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i wont be waiting for every mistake he makes, i will be cheering him on.
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Yes me too! Welcome to Donny Herbie and hope you do really well lad 😀👍
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this lad could make you look silly Gaz, at 19 he is old enough and will have learnt from Gerrard.
I hope he does. Not many 19 year olds can run a L1 midfield in their first taste of league football. Massive ask, I don’t care what anyone says. There obviously wasn’t the money there to sign the experienced enforcer we need.
Who would you suggest if we did have the £ to spend?!
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Squad number 53 :coat:
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Until he has played a few games he could be anything. Lets not rush to judge. Give the lad a chance. Experience is incredibly useful, but it is possible for a teenager to be really special. Just as examples Ray Wilkins was captain of Chelsea at 18 (In what now would be the Championship) and David Beckham did well at 19/20 with Preston before kicking on with Man U.
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Welcome to Doncaster. We are not all whingeing so-and-sos.
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Wasn't it James coppinger who stated last year there was a lack of experience, l may have the wrong player but somebody did say it in a video interview on ifollow.
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About thyme we signed a decent midfielder...
sure he'll nutmeg a few players
An old Sage I know says he will be a good addition.
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this lad could make you look silly Gaz, at 19 he is old enough and will have learnt from Gerrard.
I hope he does. Not many 19 year olds can run a L1 midfield in their first taste of league football. Massive ask, I don’t care what anyone says. There obviously wasn’t the money there to sign the experienced enforcer we need.
Why is that obvious? Having a budget and finding players to spend it on are two different things..
And as for age and being a midfield enforcer, many of us will remember Ian Snodin when he started..
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this lad could make you look silly Gaz, at 19 he is old enough and will have learnt from Gerrard.
I hope he does. Not many 19 year olds can run a L1 midfield in their first taste of league football. Massive ask, I don’t care what anyone says. There obviously wasn’t the money there to sign the experienced enforcer we need.
Who would you suggest if we did have the £ to spend?!
I’d have signed Woodyard from Lincoln that has gone to Peterborough.
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About thyme we signed a decent midfielder...
sure he'll nutmeg a few players
An old Sage I know says he will be a good addition.
I’ve heard the third player will be Coriander Herrera
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this lad could make you look silly Gaz, at 19 he is old enough and will have learnt from Gerrard.
I hope he does. Not many 19 year olds can run a L1 midfield in their first taste of league football. Massive ask, I don’t care what anyone says. There obviously wasn’t the money there to sign the experienced enforcer we need.
Who would you suggest if we did have the £ to spend?!
I’d have signed Woodyard from Lincoln that has gone to Peterborough.
Is he an experienced enforcer?
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this lad could make you look silly Gaz, at 19 he is old enough and will have learnt from Gerrard.
I hope he does. Not many 19 year olds can run a L1 midfield in their first taste of league football. Massive ask, I don’t care what anyone says. There obviously wasn’t the money there to sign the experienced enforcer we need.
Who would you suggest if we did have the £ to spend?!
I’d have signed Woodyard from Lincoln that has gone to Peterborough.
Is he an experienced enforcer?
He’s a great age, sits in front of the back line and excellent on the ball and breaks up play. Would be perfect for us.
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this lad could make you look silly Gaz, at 19 he is old enough and will have learnt from Gerrard.
I hope he does. Not many 19 year olds can run a L1 midfield in their first taste of league football. Massive ask, I don’t care what anyone says. There obviously wasn’t the money there to sign the experienced enforcer we need.
Who would you suggest if we did have the £ to spend?!
I’d have signed Woodyard from Lincoln that has gone to Peterborough.
No you wouldn't coz he has gone to peterborough
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I can only see upside here.
The guy is well regarded by Liverpool. For him to continue his development he has to pull up trees for us otherwise the next step is a transfer (as Rodney K will tell you).
If it doesn't happen then we get someone else in in January.
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I can only see upside here.
The guy is well regarded by Liverpool. For him to continue his development he has to pull up trees for us otherwise the next step is a transfer (as Rodney K will tell you).
If it doesn't happen then we get someone else in in January.
Or develop a player for 6-9months that isn’t our own.
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I can only see upside here.
The guy is well regarded by Liverpool. For him to continue his development he has to pull up trees for us otherwise the next step is a transfer (as Rodney K will tell you).
If it doesn't happen then we get someone else in in January.
When I said yesterday “If we sign Kane people on here would be saying WHY” l didn’t actually realise we were about ro sign Kane for real. ( Different Kane of course ) but yes people are still moaning because he is only 19.
Sounds like a hot prospect to me. Have some of you forgotten Lundstrum who we signed from Everton in November 2012 aged 19. He was excellent and we went on to get promoted that season.
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Hopefully he is more Lundstram than Kongolo
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I can only see upside here.
The guy is well regarded by Liverpool. For him to continue his development he has to pull up trees for us otherwise the next step is a transfer (as Rodney K will tell you).
If it doesn't happen then we get someone else in in January.
Or develop a player for 6-9months that isn’t our own.
So what?
Fair enough if we were doing that with many players..
Should we never loan players then?
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I can only see upside here.
The guy is well regarded by Liverpool. For him to continue his development he has to pull up trees for us otherwise the next step is a transfer (as Rodney K will tell you).
If it doesn't happen then we get someone else in in January.
Or develop a player for 6-9months that isn’t our own.
So what?
Fair enough if we were doing that with many players..
Should we never loan players then?
No we shouldn’t.
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I can only see upside here.
The guy is well regarded by Liverpool. For him to continue his development he has to pull up trees for us otherwise the next step is a transfer (as Rodney K will tell you).
If it doesn't happen then we get someone else in in January.
Or develop a player for 6-9months that isn’t our own.
So what?
Fair enough if we were doing that with many players..
Should we never loan players then?
No we shouldn’t.
Why?
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Economics dictate that smaller clubs have to make use of the loan market.
Sometimes it works in favour of the small club when a loanee eventually signs a permanent deal.
It has happened for us.
I hope he turns out to be a good player for us but as is often the case with some of our fans, they don’t give players much leeway.
The last time we got a loanee from a PL club who was a 19 year old captain of his clubs under 23 side he was slaughtered by a section of supporters.
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If Gerrard thought he was ready surely he would have signed him himself he’s signed a few already from Liverpool reserves hasn’t he?
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Maybe the lad didn’t want to go up to Jockland.
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Underwhelming. Why couldn’t we sign a proven player?
because they cost a lot of money so that would be a nom starter
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If he starts off as well as Houghton did for us he'll do for me
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Just told my lad who is at Liverpool Uni that we have signed Herbie Kane. He excitedly Said Herbie Kane? Herbie Kane? WOW!...........says it all for me
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Just so long as there's no agreement that he must start so many games i'm happy with it. I'm convinced Kongolo was on that kind of deal which is why we had to keep suffering him.
If he was u23 captain at a club like liverpool he should be good at our level although i think we were saying the same about kongolo so its hard to judge until we see him play
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Is he related to Neil Parsley? Or Basil Boli? Or Jonny Oregano?
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https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/herbie-kane-liverpool-bristol-city-1212908
don't know whether his nickname should be Sugar or Able apparently Kane will go though the "pain barrier" at a stroke
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Ive probably missed someone obvious but have we had anyone on loan from Liverpool in recent times or before even. I can think of players we have had on loan from pretty much every other big prem club but not Liverpool
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GazLaz is the new Raggytash. FACT. Amazing the number of moaning buggers before a ball has been kicked in anger. Let's just see how we go. Personally, I think we have a fairly good set of players. McCann seems to know what he wants so I'm looking forward to kick off.
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I can only see upside here.
The guy is well regarded by Liverpool. For him to continue his development he has to pull up trees for us otherwise the next step is a transfer (as Rodney K will tell you).
If it doesn't happen then we get someone else in in January.
Or develop a player for 6-9months that isn’t our own.
So what?
Fair enough if we were doing that with many players..
Should we never loan players then?
No we shouldn’t.
Find me a team who don't loan players in the EFL. It's a necessity for one and you can find good players in the market.
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Loaning players is fine and we’ve done well out of it in the past.
Taylor is potentially a good signing
I think grant was waiting for us to come for him but we haven’t so he’s signed for Shrewsbury.
We’re certainly going to have a very youthful side next season
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Still need a goal scorer
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I asked a friend of mine who is a big Liverpool fan and he had this to say:
" had a disappointing 16/17 due to a few injuries but he was probably one of the more standout players in the U23's last season . Probably the best thing to say about him is despite his age his performances are very mature and calm despite being 19 and I think he'll be able to more than handle himself at a lower league level which I think is always something that can be a concern when loaning players from academy sides."
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Can’t understand your thinking gaz, many teams at our level and above get promoted having half a team of loan players
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GazLaz is the new Raggytash. FACT. Amazing the number of moaning buggers before a ball has been kicked in anger. Let's just see how we go. Personally, I think we have a fairly good set of players. McCann seems to know what he wants so I'm looking forward to kick off.
Come on, don’t compare me with that lunatic. I’m just concerned that’s all. I smell danger this season. I’ll give it ten games or so to assess, hope I’m proved wildly wrong.
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There’s a limit on loanees anyway isn’t there? So they are always going to be a small part of the squad..
This lad sounds a real prospect, hope he’s a big succcess with us..
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Haven't seen him play so can't say much either way. Let's hope he joins the many good loanees we've had and not heard of who did alright;
Jordan Houghton, Ryan Mason, Chris Brown, Connor Grant (first loan), Jordan Mutch, Matt Mills etc etc
Granted he could be the next Kongolo but there's got to be optimism around him. Certainly adds some depth to the squad, the midfield looks strong.
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Ive probably missed someone obvious but have we had anyone on loan from Liverpool in recent times or before even. I can think of players we have had on loan from pretty much every other big prem club but not Liverpool
Sure we had a striker - looked similar to Lewis Guy back in OBV days disappeared after us
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Was David Larmour a Liverpool loanee?
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I can only see upside here.
The guy is well regarded by Liverpool. For him to continue his development he has to pull up trees for us otherwise the next step is a transfer (as Rodney K will tell you).
If it doesn't happen then we get someone else in in January.
Or develop a player for 6-9months that isn’t our own.
I agree we should have our own players but Shrewsbury the ones that don’t spend a lot ?? Had 5 Loaneesin their 11 players last season. It has to be done whether we like it or not. Let’s hope this 19 year old is better than last years 19 year old from another premiership club.
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Think that’s who I was thinking of Al
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Hope he turns out as good as that Tony woodcock guy we loaned from Forest many years ago
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Was David Larmour a Liverpool loanee?
We signed him permanently. Promising young striker at the time who came through with Michael Owen. Richardson played him at right back and destroyed his career.
He had a great song, though.
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This signing reminded me of a post last week, which some other posters agreed with in a thread about our ability to sign players of a certain class.
I left it a couple of days to see if the said posters would comment.
The post went along the lines that now Fergie had left we would lose our contacts , and our ability to get loan players from the bigger premiership clubs because of Grants perceived less influence. Well that has been shot down.
I will now set my stall out to be shot down, I think Grant McCann will have a better eye for a player, that remains to be seen, but I will nail my colours to his mast, he has not got a lot to beet.
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Are there any L1 or L2 clubs that don’t take loan players?
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This signing reminded me of a post last week, which some other posters agreed with in a thread about our ability to sign players of a certain class.
I left it a couple of days to see if the said posters would comment.
The post went along the lines that now Fergie had left we would lose our contacts , and our ability to get loan players from the bigger premiership clubs because of Grants perceived less influence. Well that has been shot down.
I will now set my stall out to be shot down, I think Grant McCann will have a better eye for a player, that remains to be seen, but I will nail my colours to his mast, he has not got a lot to beet.
Ferguson may have divided opinion with his tactics and selection but he signed us some very good players.
I think that was his main strength
Marquis, wright, lawlor, Mason, whiteman, Rowe, Anderson, Andrew,
Will all in my opinion play at a higher level and make us money
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This signing reminded me of a post last week, which some other posters agreed with in a thread about our ability to sign players of a certain class.
I left it a couple of days to see if the said posters would comment.
The post went along the lines that now Fergie had left we would lose our contacts , and our ability to get loan players from the bigger premiership clubs because of Grants perceived less influence. Well that has been shot down.
I will now set my stall out to be shot down, I think Grant McCann will have a better eye for a player, that remains to be seen, but I will nail my colours to his mast, he has not got a lot to beet.
Ferguson may have divided opinion with his tactics and selection but he signed us some very good players.
I think that was his main strength
Marquis, wright, lawlor, Mason, whiteman, Rowe, Anderson, Andrew,
Will all in my opinion play at a higher level and make us money
I would say divided opinion was an understatement!