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Title: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Albert Trousers on November 03, 2018, 07:40:00 pm
The Mrs went to a school football competition a few weeks back at the Keepmoat & arrived late due to work so she pulled in to car park 3 where we park for home games. She has received a parking fine from a company in Lancashire as it seems it’s permit holders only on non match days. Is it worth a whinge at the keepmoat as it was an event they held so she thought parking in the stadium car park would be fine or should she take it on the chin as she didn’t notice (or look for) any signs telling her not to park there.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: keith79 on November 03, 2018, 07:48:34 pm
Take it on the chin. Its well signposted
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: old lad on November 03, 2018, 08:18:36 pm
Check on line.
I got a ticket from a company in Preston a few years ago. I think you will find they threaten you but if you don't pay they can't force you.
Also Martin Lewis did a piece on it on tv I beleive
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: DonnyOsmond on November 03, 2018, 08:23:26 pm
No harm in trying with KM.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: drfchound on November 03, 2018, 09:29:58 pm
Wasn’t this mentioned a few weeks ago on here.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Albert Trousers on November 03, 2018, 10:06:21 pm
Not sure mate, don't come on here much these days.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: drfchound on November 03, 2018, 10:16:58 pm
It might have been car park 3 that was discussed, I can’t remember for certain, but certainly one of them was spoken about in detail as some people had picked up fines for parking in there to collect match tickets.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Donnywolf on November 04, 2018, 06:19:20 am
Wasn’t this mentioned a few weeks ago on here.

A bit longer than that but neverthless it got a comprehensive discussion. Might be interesting to Alberts Trousers even though it is Car Park 1 to his Car Park 3 - I am guessing same details apply

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=263899.msg732893#msg732893
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Albert Trousers on November 04, 2018, 08:33:12 am
Thanks Donnywolf
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: adamtherover on April 08, 2019, 07:04:25 pm
The Mrs went to a school football competition a few weeks back at the Keepmoat & arrived late due to work so she pulled in to car park 3 where we park for home games. She has received a parking fine from a company in Lancashire as it seems it’s permit holders only on non match days. Is it worth a whinge at the keepmoat as it was an event they held so she thought parking in the stadium car park would be fine or should she take it on the chin as she didn’t notice (or look for) any signs telling her not to park there.
what was the outcome of this fella, my mate has just received a ticket for parking in CP3 to go to the club shop and get his season ticket. I've advised they are potentially unenforceable if it's not a legit dmbc ticket.. any advice welcome.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: adamtherover on April 08, 2019, 07:14:56 pm
Mad thing is that we both go down there on Tuesday night for academy training and I cant say I've noticed signs as we park up without a care in the world. I was well aware of the CP 1 parking issues.  I'll make sure to avoid CP 3.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: DonnyOsmond on April 08, 2019, 07:46:05 pm
CP2 is open to all and no parking machine, it's just they're permit only.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: the vicar on April 08, 2019, 07:55:39 pm
The club are there own worst enemy at times and shoot themselves in the foot
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: adamtherover on April 08, 2019, 07:55:56 pm
Sad thing is, we were told by the academy boss to park in CP 3 on Tues nite for training, so mentally you are thinking CP3 is safe.   he was actually going to the club shop to get the training gear for his lad.  So parked in aN empty CP 3 a very short amount of time..  theres loads of stuff about this in the web, some folk pay, some brave it out.. and hear nothing. Some get court hearings and get less than the cost of the fine verdicts against them from the judge..  frustrating to say the least.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Danmckay456 on April 08, 2019, 07:58:57 pm
It’s shocking that relatives who visit loved ones in the memorial garden could potentially be fined 😡🤬
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: DearneValleyRover on April 08, 2019, 08:10:13 pm
Is it the Club or the Council? Remember it’s still Council owned
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: 5minstogo on April 08, 2019, 08:24:16 pm
I don't really understand why the stadium management feel the need to do it. Is there a massive parking issue there on a regular basis?
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: adamtherover on April 08, 2019, 08:52:29 pm
By all accounts, he was the only car in there.  Not exactly taking up someone else's space. .
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Filo on April 08, 2019, 11:32:09 pm
It’s ok, we won family club of the year, ripping off potential fans can’t be in the criteria for that award
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: since-1969 on April 08, 2019, 11:54:36 pm
If nurses have to pay to go to work so I doubt there’ll be much sympathy for you .  :mad:
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: karldew on April 09, 2019, 12:11:50 am
So I popped into town this morning to do some shopping.... I was only in there for about 5 minutes and when I came out there was a traffic warden writing a parking ticket.
So I went up to him and said, "Come on, how about giving a guy a break?"
He ignored me and continued writing the ticket. So I called him a jobsworth. He glared at me and started writing another ticket for parking over the lines!! So I said he was the worst jobsworth I’ve ever met.
He finished the second ticket and put it on the car with the first.
Then he started writing a third ticket!!
This went on for about 20 minutes, the more I softly abused him, the more tickets he wrote.
To be honest I would have been really angry but thankfully my car was parked around the corner.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: adamtherover on April 09, 2019, 05:50:48 am
If nurses have to pay to go to work so I doubt there’ll be much sympathy for you .  :mad:
quite possibly the worst analogy I've ever heard.  How are the two scenarios remotely connected.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: idler on April 09, 2019, 08:32:56 am
My wife was a nurse and had to pay monthly for a parking permit. She had the permit on her windscreen but was still fined £30 for parking in a wrong zone.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: wing commander on April 09, 2019, 08:46:53 am
   As far as I recall the club lease the car park on non matchdays to somebody else,it's them who have put the parking restriction's in place and chartered a company to enforce it...
   So in theory there isn't anything the keepmoat can do...
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: RedJ on April 09, 2019, 08:50:50 am
People so quick to stick the boot into the club as well...
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: silent majority on April 09, 2019, 08:59:32 am
It’s ok, we won family club of the year, ripping off potential fans can’t be in the criteria for that award

I fail to see how these two points are related. Are you saying the club are issuing parking tickets?
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: 5minstogo on April 09, 2019, 09:01:44 am
People so quick to stick the boot into the club as well...

It's probably how the general public would see it though. They pop to the club shop after parking in the wrong car park, under the signs of home of Doncaster Rovers and then end up with a ticket. They'll automatically associate it with Rovers rather than an external management or security company.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: since-1969 on April 09, 2019, 09:02:08 am
If nurses have to pay to go to work so I doubt there’ll be much sympathy for you .  :mad:
quite possibly the worst analogy I've ever heard.  How are the two scenarios remotely connected.
Rules are rules and it’s always those who neglect to follow them that complain the most.   
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: RedJ on April 09, 2019, 09:22:01 am
People so quick to stick the boot into the club as well...

It's probably how the general public would see it though. They pop to the club shop after parking in the wrong car park, under the signs of home of Doncaster Rovers and then end up with a ticket. They'll automatically associate it with Rovers rather than an external management or security company.
What do you want them to do, put up big f**koff signs saying "Oh by the way we don't look after the car park on non match days careful where you park lol"?
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: steve@dcfd on April 09, 2019, 09:35:31 am
If you want to pop to the club shop on non match days then car park 2 is big enough to accommodate many cars. It’s close to the club shop, memorial, athletics and football pitches. Car par 1and Car park 3 have been restricted parking for months on non match days.
So all everybody use Car park 2 unless there’s a major event then ask where to park.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: the vicar on April 09, 2019, 09:37:01 am
Is it the Club or the Council? Remember it’s still Council owned
the council own it but the club have completed control of the area but not the athletes area
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: DearneValleyRover on April 09, 2019, 09:40:52 am
Is it the Club or the Council? Remember it’s still Council owned
the council own it but the club have completed control of the area but not the athletes area

I would expect that to be the case on match days but outside of that I’m unsure given that car park 1 is for office staff and 3 the new school.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: RedJ on April 09, 2019, 09:43:14 am
If you want to pop to the club shop on non match days then car park 2 is big enough to accommodate many cars. It’s close to the club shop, memorial, athletics and football pitches. Car par 1and Car park 3 have been restricted parking for months on non match days.
So all everybody use Car park 2 unless there’s a major event then ask where to park.


Or just park on the bit of tarmac near the shop/ticket office.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Filo on April 09, 2019, 12:39:59 pm
It’s ok, we won family club of the year, ripping off potential fans can’t be in the criteria for that award

I fail to see how these two points are related. Are you saying the club are issuing parking tickets?

I’m saying the club have chosen to go the route of putting the car park into the hands of a parking charge company, whos only motive is to generate cash, everyone knows what these companies are like
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: adamtherover on April 09, 2019, 12:49:26 pm
If nurses have to pay to go to work so I doubt there’ll be much sympathy for you .  :mad:
quite possibly the worst analogy I've ever heard.  How are the two scenarios remotely connected.
Rules are rules and it’s always those who neglect to follow them that complain the most.   
once again like your analogy, absolutley pointless comment!

im not guilty of receiving a ticket, my mate is, he's not "moaning" to anyone. im asking advice on behalf to the previous poster how their situation ended up. 

any more thoughts of filling this debate with waffle, think against it.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: adamtherover on April 09, 2019, 12:51:44 pm
It’s ok, we won family club of the year, ripping off potential fans can’t be in the criteria for that award

I fail to see how these two points are related. Are you saying the club are issuing parking tickets?

I’m saying the club have chosen to go the route of putting the car park into the hands of a parking charge company, whos only motive is to generate cash, everyone knows what these companies are like

ive no issue with the club employing private firms like this, i do think however there should be a small amount of leeway, especially if you are are spending money at the stadium on a non match day.   If you were parking there all day and walking to a nearby place of work, thats a different matter entirely.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: deebee on April 09, 2019, 12:53:35 pm
Lets get this clear the Keepmoat stadium has lots of let office space, the lessees also rent the carparks 1-3 as part of the contract. They have installed many signs both at the entrance and on nearly all the lamposts both informing and warning of the consequences of parking in there without a permit. You park in there at your peril, it is not Club Doncaster's fault if you end up with a ticket.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Donnywolf on April 09, 2019, 02:49:13 pm
 :that:
Exactly what deebee says.

I have just been selling Sunderland Coach Tickets and during a slack spell I walked around Car Park 1 and there were about 17 Signs (may have been 16 - I lost count) . Nobody can reasonably use the defence that they didnt see the Signs if they Park in there


17 Signs in and around a space as big as a Football Pitch is a lot - and as deebee says there are a lot of Sub tenants who are based in the Stadium and who should be informing their visitors where to Park

Rovers and Dons Fans and others should follow the advice I saw posted on here earlier - JUST use Car Park 2    It is close to everything anyway and there will be no further problems - and if visiting Ticket Office or Club Shop(s) and you cant walk that far or dont want to then drive clockwise round the Ground (as its a 1 way system) and Park right outside one or the other  S-i-m-p-l-e-s

Not sure about signage in Car Park 3 which the OP referred to as I had time to look at CP1 only. Will look next time I go selling Coach Tickets
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: silent majority on April 09, 2019, 04:51:00 pm
It’s ok, we won family club of the year, ripping off potential fans can’t be in the criteria for that award

I fail to see how these two points are related. Are you saying the club are issuing parking tickets?

I’m saying the club have chosen to go the route of putting the car park into the hands of a parking charge company, whos only motive is to generate cash, everyone knows what these companies are like

But that's not what you said at all. What you said, and not even implied, is that the club are ripping off potential fans.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: RedRover45 on April 09, 2019, 05:11:05 pm
:that:
Exactly what deebee says.

I have just been selling Sunderland Coach Tickets and during a slack spell I walked around Car Park 1 and there were about 17 Signs (may have been 16 - I lost count) . Nobody can reasonably use the defence that they didnt see the Signs if they Park in there


17 Signs in and around a space as big as a Football Pitch is a lot - and as deebee says there are a lot of Sub tenants who are based in the Stadium and who should be informing their visitors where to Park

Rovers and Dons Fans and others should follow the advice I saw posted on here earlier - JUST use Car Park 2    It is close to everything anyway and there will be no further problems - and if visiting Ticket Office or Club Shop(s) and you cant walk that far or dont want to then drive clockwise round the Ground (as its a 1 way system) and Park right outside one or the other  S-i-m-p-l-e-s

Not sure about signage in Car Park 3 which the OP referred to as I had time to look at CP1 only. Will look next time I go selling Coach Tickets

It leases parking spaces for Royal Mail for one.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Donnywolf on April 09, 2019, 06:57:27 pm
Maybe we could help by pointing out that the Car Parking issues are not a problem on Match Days and to my knowledge never have been and for Rovers or Dons Fans never will be a problem at other times such as collecting Tickets or visiting Club Shop if they always use Car Park 2 .

Maybe Club could add a suitable Sign at entrance to Car Park 2 as well

Job done by word of mouth ... No fall out for either Club ?
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Rovers Return on April 09, 2019, 07:49:09 pm
Doesn’t matter! Only two bodies can issue parking fines the local council i.e Traffic Wardens or the Police. The rest are speculative invoices and not enforceable. Don’t pay, appeal and be willing to go to court. Very unlikely they will go that far. See website Pepipoo.com
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: adamtherover on April 09, 2019, 07:53:07 pm
Quick update, we have just come back from CP3 after academy training, whilst theres plenty of signs. They are small and way above head level, especially the one whilst entering the place, if you drive diagonally thru the place to the spot nearest the stadium you as good as miss all the signs, then on leaving your car there are none by the footpaths.  So it's easy to miss what you wernt looking out for.  Granted there are plenty, but they blend into the back ground, let's no forget they made 25 million in fines last year.  Their business is to catch folk out.  However, that's a side issue, my mate has mailed the stadium to seeing a simple oversight can be sorted quickly.  They replied promptly asking for all details and leave it with them.  The club is faultless as far as I'm concerned, my pal is confident of a good outcome and is a CP2 for life man.  Hopefully this small heads up to folk with stop any more Innocent mistakes..  and let's be fair, that's all it was. 
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: ravenrover on April 09, 2019, 09:12:21 pm
Slightly off on a tangent but do people pay for CP 3 to use the facilities at the athletics and the pitches? The reason I ask is on the Tuesday night match against Bristol I turned up as normal but was told the park was full and to park in CP4, as a permit holder you can guess my reaction. They eventually let me in to “see if there was a space” the place was half empty! Most cars in there seemed to have popped in to pick up their kids after finishing their sport and dash off again
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: adamtherover on April 09, 2019, 09:15:24 pm
No , even on match night, we have been told to use CP3, theres security as we enter at 5pm, but no fees to pay..
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Red wizard on April 09, 2019, 09:59:46 pm
Ignore the letter. Once you reply they have got you. I had one and just didn't Answer it and never heard anything from it.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Dagenham Rover on April 09, 2019, 10:33:57 pm
It doesn't matter that Club Doncaster have leased the car parks to somebody else through the week any fallback will come onto Club Doncaster and put it in a bad light!  the amount of parking through the week in the restricted areas easily allows for say   half an hour leeway for people going to the clubshop or ticket office 
OR  are the cameras enforced and provided by the companys that lease the car parks .....
 30 minutes parking ................problem solved
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: knockers on April 10, 2019, 07:05:55 am
I fail to understand why you would choose car park 3 to go to the club shop or ticket office.
You can actually drive round the ground and park right outside!
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Donnywolf on April 10, 2019, 07:41:38 am
 :that:    Either way - we must encourage people to use Car Park 2 (takes me 2 minutes to reach Ticket Office) OR like you say drive round and Park right outside.

A lot of people actually do that I noticed while sunning myself between Coach Ticket sales (also takes about 2 minutes)

So 2 Minutes v 2 Minutes - either way though just avoid CP1 and CP3
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: eric the red on April 10, 2019, 09:07:06 pm
Not Rovers related, although it could be. Be careful in the Outlet car park, make sure you park between the lines. A Range Rover was straggling the white lines and it was photographed and ticketed by the park attendant.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: mushRTID on April 10, 2019, 09:14:18 pm
Not Rovers related, although it could be. Be careful in the Outlet car park, make sure you park between the lines. A Range Rover was straggling the white lines and it was photographed and ticketed by the park attendant.

And rightly so, I bloody hate that.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Bentley Bullet on April 10, 2019, 09:50:32 pm
:that:    Either way - we must encourage people to use Car Park 2 (takes me 2 minutes to reach Ticket Office) OR like you say drive round and Park right outside.

A lot of people actually do that I noticed while sunning myself between Coach Ticket sales (also takes about 2 minutes)

So 2 Minutes v 2 Minutes - either way though just avoid CP1 and CP3

I drive round and park outside the ticket office. Then I put my shades on and get my White stick out of the back seat and pretend I'm blind.....Never been questioned yet.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Jimmydee on April 10, 2019, 10:11:55 pm


I drive round and park outside the ticket office. Then I put my shades on and get my White stick out of the back seat and pretend I'm blind.....Never been questioned yet.



I bet that you also put on a limp
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Bentley Bullet on April 10, 2019, 10:13:55 pm


I drive round and park outside the ticket office. Then I put my shades on and get my White stick out of the back seat and pretend I'm blind.....Never been questioned yet.



I bet that you also put on a limp

I do put on a limp when I use the disabled bogs in Wetherspoons.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Donnywolf on April 10, 2019, 10:29:28 pm
Not Rovers related, although it could be. Be careful in the Outlet car park, make sure you park between the lines. A Range Rover was straggling the white lines and it was photographed and ticketed by the park attendant.

And rightly so, I bloody hate that.

Probably could have parked 70 yards from where he/she wanted to be but did not want to risk getting Car bumped

So easier to park as near as you want but take 2 spots up ..... its another selfish "fashion" we can do without so I am with you !
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: drfchound on April 11, 2019, 07:50:54 am
Not Rovers related, although it could be. Be careful in the Outlet car park, make sure you park between the lines. A Range Rover was straggling the white lines and it was photographed and ticketed by the park attendant.

And rightly so, I bloody hate that.

Probably could have parked 70 yards from where he/she wanted to be but did not want to risk getting Car bumped

So easier to park as near as you want but take 2 spots up ..... its another selfish "fashion" we can do without so I am with you !





Avoiding getting the car doors bumped by people who don’t give a shit is why people park over the lines.
I always park well away from the masses if possible and walk a bit further.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Bentley Bullet on April 11, 2019, 08:00:07 am
For that reason, I try to avoid parking next to 2 door cars. The front doors are about a foot wider than those on 4 door versions.
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Donnywolf on April 11, 2019, 08:44:29 am
Good tip that BB - I had not thought of that. (I will deliberately make a duff prediction on PvO next game so you may catch me up lol)

Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: Bentley Bullet on April 11, 2019, 10:12:22 am
Your Bradford prediction was a duff one, albeit being correct! It had a draw all over it throughout (apparently) in every aspect but the result!
Title: Re: Parking fine -car park 3
Post by: idler on April 11, 2019, 10:48:55 am
Not Rovers related, although it could be. Be careful in the Outlet car park, make sure you park between the lines. A Range Rover was straggling the white lines and it was photographed and ticketed by the park attendant.

And rightly so, I bloody hate that.

Probably could have parked 70 yards from where he/she wanted to be but did not want to risk getting Car bumped

So easier to park as near as you want but take 2 spots up ..... its another selfish "fashion" we can do without so I am with you !





Avoiding getting the car doors bumped by people who don’t give a shit is why people park over the lines.
I always park well away from the masses if possible and walk a bit further.

I do the same hound but when you park in a quiet area your one car seems to have attracted others by the time you get back.
It's though people don't want to risk leaving a car isolated but as soon as someone else does they are fine. It must be the herd instinct.