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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on November 04, 2018, 06:28:52 pm
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A game between two sides that set the season off in great form, and now seem to have hit the buffers, Chorley having not won a game in their last five, and have just lost their last two games to the two sides jostling them for top spot in The National League North Bradford Park Avenue, and Spennymoor Town.
Many supporters will expect us to get through this tye easily, but as we all know that is not in our DNA, if a team can make it hard in cup football the Rovers are that team having thrown a fortune away in funds that could have been very useful over the decades I have lived in hope of us being the giant killers this season, and been bitterly disappointed.
So please excuse me if I seem to live in hope rather than expectation.
Team selection could be interesting, not many players showing up well at Charlton, and Grant will have a difficult time deciding whether to stay loyal to the majority of the team he has gone with since August and try and get some confidence back or bring in players who have not featured much this season.
No doubt Chorley will be a better side than we think, and full of enthusiasm, and just longing to be the talk of the sports world by taking our scalp and getting nationwide publicity.
Me I would bring Wright back injury allowing, Assess Wilks off the field issues and bring him in for Taylor if OK, and Crawford for Blair. So much the same team as the early season games.
What would you do?
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I don't think Wright is likely to be ready for next week but there is a chance Tommy Rowe could be involved.
Interestingly Chorley have been on a poor run since the draw was made, at which point they were unbeaten. They (like us) have lost their last three games. Maybe they have taken their eye off the ball because of the Cup draw, but you can't switch form on and off.
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Chorley were unlucky to lose to Bradford Park Avenue.
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Rovers were unlucky to lose against Sunderland.
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The team should be the best eleven players GM selects no fringe players. This will depend on fitness but no messing about treat this game as a league game.
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Steve, I agree, I see the next two cup games as very important to the club for us to continue to improve, and from a financial point of view, with good prize money to be won and also gate receipts.
A good cup run brings in the floating fan as a team progresses something we have failed to do, even when the club seem to have had a favourable draw in the past, Exeter in the past and last season Rochdale being two examples of clubs we lost to going on to riches.
I would also put out a strong team at Notts County.
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Last season we got through to a big tie with Arsenal in the EFL Cup, a year before that we got through to face Stoke in the FA Cup, so it's not like we never do it. We're probably only just through our karmic levelling out from the remarkable 2005 run in the Carling Cup anyway.
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RA, if you compared our cup record to most other clubs over the 67 years I have watched them, and put us in a league format, I dread to think where we would be in the table, and I was at the cup game against Aston Villa the highlight.
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Unfortunately I fear for us against Chorley. The players should be good enough but Chorley are playing well and will be full of confidence at home. I’m hoping we put a full strength team out
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RA, if you compared our cup record to most other clubs over the 67 years I have watched them, and put us in a league format, I dread to think where we would be in the table, and I was at the cup game against Aston Villa the highlight.
I'm not so sure. Cup runs and clubs enjoying a big upset are a rarity for a reason. A good number of clubs have not had a run like we did in 2005, or got days out at places like the Emirates as we have.
I agree that that win over Villa was the highlight of the run, what a performance from the Rovers that night against very strong opposition.
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RA, I was thinking about the series of replays we eventually won in the 1950s. The league cup is different, up to recently most big clubs came into it in the second round, and most from the start, therefore we had a better chance of a big side draw.
Now the European qualifiers are only a few games off a final, and it is the same few teams that reach the final, most teams being eliminated before they enter the fray.
The lowest point losing to Frickley. Even when we were in the Conference we did not always qualify for the first round proper, historically we have been very poor.
Even when we won the fourth division Championship in the sixties with a good side, I think I am right in saying Wigan then a non league side Knocked us out of the cup in an early round the same season.
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RA, I was thinking about the series of replays we eventually won in the 1950s. The league cup is different, up to recently most big clubs came into it in the second round, and most from the start, therefore we had a better chance of a big side draw.
Now the European qualifiers are only a few games off a final, and it is the same few teams that reach the final, most teams being eliminated before they enter the fray.
The lowest point losing to Frickley. Even when we were in the Conference we did not always qualify for the first round proper, historically we have been very poor.
Even when we won the fourth division Championship in the sixties with a good side, I think I am right in saying Wigan then a non league side Knocked us out of the cup in an early round the same season.
Yes and a bloke with a broken leg got a hat trick in that replay if I remember right.
A bigger disappointment was losing at home to Swansea in the third round about three years later.
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RA, I was thinking about the series of replays we eventually won in the 1950s. The league cup is different, up to recently most big clubs came into it in the second round, and most from the start, therefore we had a better chance of a big side draw.
Now the European qualifiers are only a few games off a final, and it is the same few teams that reach the final, most teams being eliminated before they enter the fray.
The lowest point losing to Frickley. Even when we were in the Conference we did not always qualify for the first round proper, historically we have been very poor.
Even when we won the fourth division Championship in the sixties with a good side, I think I am right in saying Wigan then a non league side Knocked us out of the cup in an early round the same season.
Yes and a bloke with a broken leg got a hat trick in that replay if I remember right.
A bigger disappointment was losing at home to Swansea in the third round about three years later.
Harry Lyons I think Idler; and Wigan were only in the Cheshire League at the time.
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Unfortunately the thread from earlier about Chorley last night has vanished. Last night they were playing Bamber Bridge in the Lancashire FA Trophy. This was the line up:
Eccles, Challoner, O'Brien, Lussey, Anson, Jordan, Glynn, Whitham (C), Wilson, Noble-Lazarus, Cottrell; Subs: Lee, Lenehan, Carver, O'Keefe, Meppen-Walter.
Last Saturday, when they played Spennymoor in the League, this was the team:
Urwin, Challoner, Blakeman, Teague, Leather, Meppen-Walter, Glynn, O'Keeffe, Wilson, Almond, E. Newby. Subs: Cottrell, A. Newby, Whitham, Carver, Anson.
Looks like last night's team was mainly reserves, so any scouts might have been a bit misled. They lost both game, btw.
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Is that Reuben Noble-Lazarus, former Barnsley wonderkid?
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It should be a game for McCann to fire up the team and get back to scoring goals with more confidence. Marquis needs a Hat trick he has so many chances that go unfinished it would help centre his abilities more if he has a top game. Our defence has been lacking concentration at set prieces and Team like Chorley make them their biggest weapon so they too need a good game. 0-5 is my prediction and anything else would be a poor showing .
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I’ve just seen that we are 13/8 with -1 goal on the handicap market. I’ll be having my biggest bet of the season.
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Unfortunately I fear for us against Chorley. The players should be good enough but Chorley are playing well and will be full of confidence at home. I’m hoping we put a full strength team out
oh no they are not I was shocked when the bloke on sky sports said they had NOW lost their last 3 matches last time they lost in the league -- looked at the table and they had only 3 losses all season
but it's true just checked
seems they have caught the infectious "facupitis disease" to a man
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=chorley+fc&oq=chorley+fc&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3.9218j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#sie=t;/m/09tchj;2;/g/11fx7x0cxy;mt;fp;1
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They did well against teams that are in the lower part of the league not so good against the higher teams they played more recently.
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It is a cup game against a league 1 team, them and the rest of football are just waiting for us to slip up.
I am sure Grant will not let it happen, but if we go there with the attitude all we have to do is turn up, we will be in for a big surprise.
It is not a game to take lightly at all.
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They have a massive 3 at the back that takes no prisoners, but it is a very wide pitch so could be ideal for us, they do pass it about at times but they mostly play it long, so as long as we keep it on the floor keep the passing game and get behind them we should win BUT I would not play Tommy Rowe in this game as they will hit us ever time we get the ball
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This game is a MUST WIN to regain confidence. GM can't afford to mess about and must play our strongest team. Losing is unimaginable.
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Grant tends to play weakened teams in cup games.
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Maybe not in the FA Cup
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I think that the possibility of a lucrative draw to raise funds to strengthen the squad will mean a strong team turning out. Let's just hope that they turn up as well.
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I think that the possibility of a lucrative draw to raise funds to strengthen the squad will mean a strong team turning out. Let's just hope that they turn up as well.
Mmm,I thought that in the League Cup too.
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Seen as this is our only cup left as I very much doubt we will get anywhere in that other one, I’m sure GM will put out the best he has but it will be down to the players actually playering rather than playing as if it’s the first time they have met
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Chorley fully deserved to get the replay, they stuck to what they do well, and coped with most that we threw at them with ease, and when needing a little help got away with giving a penalty away.
So where does that leave us? sadly out of form, the same players that were poor at passing, and keeping their shape under the last manager, making the same mistakes they were two years ago, a goalkeeper who would make me nervous carrying a cup of coffee, and an attack that at the moment do not look to be able to finish the easiest of chances.
Andrew has stopped driving into the area going forward, Mason and Blair look like they can't pass water at the minute,and even with ten men and only one man up, Chorley managed to find room in the centre of midfield to look dangerous in the last few minutes.We have a lot of work to do to improve in all areas, with the substitutes not looking able to make much of an improvement.
At least we managed to salvage a replay, which may yet be televised and us make something out of it.
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Chorley fully deserved to get the replay, they stuck to what they do well, and coped with most that we threw at them with ease, and when needing a little help got away with giving a penalty away.
So where does that leave us? sadly out of form, the same players that were poor at passing, and keeping their shape under the last manager, making the same mistakes they were two years ago, a goalkeeper who would make me nervous carrying a cup of coffee, and an attack that at the moment do not look to be able to finish the easiest of chances.
Andrew has stopped driving into the area going forward, Mason and Blair look like they can't pass water at the minute,and even with ten men and only one man up, Chorley managed to find room in the centre of midfield to look dangerous in the last few minutes.We have a lot of work to do to improve in all areas, with the substitutes not looking able to make much of an improvement.
At least we managed to salvage a replay, which may yet be televised and us make something out of it.
It shows how far we’ve come this season , when we’re happy to get a replay !
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A bit worrying when we play chorley down to 10 men with 30min left and cant win
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Some of you show an arrogance I thought we'd got rid of in our Conference days. It's the FA Cup when anything can and normally does happen.
Sure, it's disappointing our form isn't good at the moment and we didn:t see off Chorley at the first attempt but we move on.
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I thought Kane was absolutely outstanding today. A rare "10" performance. Copps was excellent as well.
Unfortunately the rest didn't match up. If we'd had a striker worthy of the name we'd have won easily.
What gets me is the inability of some players to do the basics, like find a team mate on a consistent basis.
Andrew needs to be benched. Time for Danny Amos to be given his chance. I'd also like to see what Longbottom can do as part of the front three.
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Totally agree that Amos should come in. Andrew is contributing nothing at the moment.
Baz's post is spot on mind. Give Chorley credit where it is due, we weren't good enough today but they made life difficult for us. Meppen-Walter bossed it at the back and the goalie has made some good saves too. We're out of form but it's not the end of the world.
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I don't think it is arrogance to say we should beat a club 64 places below us and with only 10 men for 30 minutes. We needed a win to regain confidence, not a draw and come from behind TWICE. Some fans are deluded.
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Yep, there are never any FACup shock results are there.
Chelsea v Bradford anyone?
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Every credit to chorley deserved another shot at us, apart from Kane copps second half and imo I don't think lawler did much wrong,the rest weren't on there game, we just need a confidence boost from somewhere and hopefully we can get back on track
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I listened to the game and saw the extended highlights..
It is true to say we are out of form, and Chorley became the stereotypical non league side doing all they could for a cup upset..
Yes we got caught cold with the early goal and their second was one of those shots which could go anywhere..
When their lad got sent off we were well on top with the momentum of the game in our favour - if the ref had given the penalty and if we had scored, I reckon that momentum would have won us the game..
In all honesty a replay isn’t a bad thing, in that it effectively gives us a “free” game to re-establish some better form.
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Coming out of the ground I heard a number of their fans say how good they thought we were and one of them said they couldn't get near us.
They were obviously more impressed than we were.
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I heard one say "there was nothing between the 2 Teams except for that little bit of Class"
I dont know whether he meant inherent in the whole Team OR more likely the little bit of class that was Herbies Goal ?
Either way we should really see them off easily in the Replay. They looked done for in the last 20 minutes - and without being too unkind some of them looked a bit "weighty" but that may have been the Striped Shirts ?
With a Ref just 10% better than the muppet we had there should be a lot less fouling / cynicism to cope with as well. Get pace thrown at Number 6 and he will soon be on a Yellow Card
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It’s a cup game. They wanted to cause an upset. But they didn’t. It’s no different when we beat Aston Villa, Man City and then took Arsenal to penalties in our cup run in 2005. So what’s the difference.
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Without being disrespectful to the level Chorley play at,they were always going to raise there game for this one,they put everything they had into it and played to the maximum of there abilities..
We didn't play that well again,but that's what Cup games are all about isn't it David and Goliath..Smaller teams on any given day can cause that upset..
At the end of the day we didn't lose the game and we've now negated a lot of the advantages they had on Saturday..Now they have to come to the Keepmoat and play on a nice pitch infront of a home crowd...There are no excuses to why we shouldn't put them to bed quite easily now..but then again Football isn't as predictable as that...I wonder how many they will bring?
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... and without Challenor I hope ! Suspended surely
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When will ticket details be announced for the replay?
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RedJ, probably when the TV replay games are decided
if they are showing any that is. We maybe one.
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When will ticket details be announced for the replay?
Let’s hope our supporters come out and support the team in force.
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I reckon Chorley have had their chance to beat us.
We will give them a tonking in the replay.
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Mmmm, Mansfield or Charlton away.
Hope it’s Mansfield.
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I reckon Chorley have had their chance to beat us.
We will give them a tonking in the replay.
Hope so ! They did look dead on their feet for the last 25 mins but we failed to kill them off.
I think we will do so in the Replay and they wont finish with 11 Men either I dont think
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RedJ, probably when the TV replay games are decided
if they are showing any that is. We maybe one.
Liam Hoden has said on Twitter that he understands the Chorley replay has NOT been chosen for TV. So will be played next Tuesday.
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I meant more to do with the pricing - I am from Yorkshire, after all!
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RedJ, probably when the TV replay games are decided
if they are showing any that is. We maybe one.
Tuesday 20th confirmed
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RedJ, probably when the TV replay games are decided
if they are showing any that is. We maybe one.
Liam Hoden has said on Twitter that he understands the Chorley replay has NOT been chosen for TV. So will be played next Tuesday.
Oxford City v Tranmere Rovers on Tuesday
Salford City v Shrewsbury Town on Wednesday
Both on BT
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I’ve just watched the bbc highlights back. The commentator says it’s the first meeting between the two sides which is a surprise due to Doncaster’s long rich history in non league football... HAVE WE ??
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I would say they have been too low in the Pyramid to have played them as we only went as "low" as the Conference and they probably have been below that forever
Northern Premier League for a lot of their modern existence so I dont think we have ever played them in a League - and I dont remember a Cup Game either going tight back to 1958
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We have never played Chorley in a competitive match before Sunday. I'm not aware of playing them in a friendly either.
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We have never played Chorley in a competitive match before Sunday. I'm not aware of playing them in a friendly either.
Correct John
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Sorry I ment have we got a long rich history in non league football as the bbc commentators said. If we have I must have missed it.
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Yeah me too ! Too many years in the Conference for sure but in my lifetime thats it
Struggling annually in Div 4 does not count as Non League tell 'em
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Sorry I ment have we got a long rich history in non league football as the bbc commentators said. If we have I must have missed it.
I noticed that too.
Obviously done his f**king homework eh...