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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: the vicar on November 14, 2018, 08:03:15 pm
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From another set piece
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another corner whats going off with the coaching
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2 nil
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2 nil
And that is enough to knock us out
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Oh dear
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We are becoming a joke side!
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We are becoming a joke side!
According to who.
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And another 1 on 1 missed
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And another 1 on 1 missed
By who mate.
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I remember hearing an interview after I think the Rochdale game with McCann in which he said we do very little defensive work in training and he likes to concentrate on our attacking play. Well Grant I think you need to change that and start working on bloody defending set pieces for a start. U would think having a ex centre half as your assistant, we wouldn’t be as bad as we are defensively.
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3
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Garbage!!!!! 😠
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GM’s honeymoon is well and truely over, all our old frailties have returned cinfidence is shot
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Lets think ourselves lucky they don't have a manager.
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We are becoming a joke side!
Are you f##king serious? A mid table league one side. Playing decent football. Can you not remember '98? Now that was a joke a side. Struggling a bit? Maybe. Joke? Are we f##k.
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Taxi for McCann.
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Dickov had more idea than this pile.
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Taxi for McCann.
I'd make him walk back from Nottinham, rather than order a taxi....
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Like 90% of us fans said before the start of the season, we have a decent starting 11 but nothing after that. McCann seemed to think different but will now be counting down the days until January. That’s if he’s still in the job by then if this run carries on. He needs to get this Defense sorted out for Saturday
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No win for a month, shipping goals for fun, worrying times. Can't we get a defensive coach in to help GM? Every time we concede a corner we look like conceding. I was slightly bemused by Marquis blaming everyone else for not picking any one up at a corner and then getting out jumped. Wtf
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Why do people think McCann is verging on the sack after the amount of time we gave O'Driscoll at the end and Ferguson when we had the 17 game or whatever it was winless streak?
He needs to actually do some work on the defending though, a bit worrying if he genuinely doesn't work on it in training...
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This game shows that we haven’t got a squad only a bunch of out of their depth players . It will take McCann 2 years to get us where we can get promotion and capable of staying up . It’s a huge clear out and build around Wright and whiteman .
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And with the chances we have had could still be winning
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Wilks and mason on at half time for Cummings and j.anderson
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That's all well and good but this manager was tasked with a top 6 finish! Perhaps they really meant bottom 6!
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alfie may one on one missed again (Taxi Taxi Taxi)
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This is a reserve game. You can’t read too much into it.
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Wilks and mason on at half time for Cummings and j.anderson
So he’s took our only central midfielder off and replaced him with a striker. This could end up anything
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alfie may one on one missed again (Taxi Taxi Taxi)
Been saying this for 18 months but the lad is no where near good enough at this level.
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This game shows that we haven’t got a squad only a bunch of out of their depth players . It will take McCann 2 years to get us where we can get promotion and capable of staying up . It’s a huge clear out and build around Wright and whiteman .
I would take that.
Two years to get us promotion with a team capable of staying in the Championship.
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Wilks and mason on at half time for Cummings and j.anderson
Same thing again he picks a side then we are losing so he makes subs 2 off again. Can he not get the team right from the start. He said in one game he picked the wrong side, he’s doing it every time.
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And another 1 on 1 missed
By who mate.
may
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alfie may one on one missed again (Taxi Taxi Taxi)
Been saying this for 18 months but the lad is no where near good enough at this level.
He was a risk signing from level 7 football who has developed apart from his scoring apart from the one he’s just scored.
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3-1 May
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3-1 May
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Wilks and mason on at half time for Cummings and j.anderson
Same thing again he picks a side then we are losing so he makes subs 2 off again. Can he not get the team right from the start. He said in one game he picked the wrong side, he’s doing it every time.
He also said before the game that tonight was an opportunity for the fringe players to show if they are up to the job.
So he gave them a start.
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The other thing is if Anderson J can’t impose himself at this level we must not sign him in January either loan and definitely not for money.
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alfie may one on one missed again (Taxi Taxi Taxi)
Been saying this for 18 months but the lad is no where near good enough at this level.
He was a risk signing from level 7 football who has developed apart from his scoring apart from the one he’s just scored.
I like the lad and want him to succeed but he’s finishing just isn’t good enough. He always seems to take 1 too many touches
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Don't they all mate
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Wilks and mason on at half time for Cummings and j.anderson
Same thing again he picks a side then we are losing so he makes subs 2 off again. Can he not get the team right from the start. He said in one game he picked the wrong side, he’s doing it every time.
He also said before the game that tonight was an opportunity for the fringe players to show if they are up to the job.
So he gave them a start.
Aye. Every single one of them, in one hit, it seems.
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Game over
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4-1
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If Lawlor is the answer WTF is the question?
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4-1 disgusting
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4. 1 now penalty
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If Lawlor is the answer WTF is the question?
why are we so shit
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Wilks and mason on at half time for Cummings and j.anderson
Same thing again he picks a side then we are losing so he makes subs 2 off again. Can he not get the team right from the start. He said in one game he picked the wrong side, he’s doing it every time.
He also said before the game that tonight was an opportunity for the fringe players to show if they are up to the job.
So he gave them a start.
Aye. Every single one of them, in one hit, it seems.
Yep, when I saw the line up I fully expected us to get beaten.
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By the way is Crawford and Blair playing in this game.
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We are shocking at the moment and depressing to go and pay good money to watch this. But hey oh
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4-2 may
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Game on
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By the way is Crawford and Blair playing in this game.
yes
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4-2 may
He is rubbish that Alfie May.
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Taxi for May ,anyone
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Sad thing about it we have been the better side missed a Shit load
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Sad thing about it we have been the better side missed a Shit load
The same most weeks mate.
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Sad thing about it we have been the better side missed a Shit load
It’s not sad vicar it’s getting monotonous. If we could take our chances then some of the defensive blunders could be overlooked
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No, they can't and they shouldn't. It's part of being a successful side.
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What a miss by may
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Sad thing about it we have been the better side missed a Shit load
It’s not sad vicar it’s getting monotonous. If we could take our chances then some of the defensive blunders could be overlooked
you are right mate
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When GM came to the club he said we produce 8% of our attacking play into shots on goal.
What % is it now from goals to shots either on target or off target.
Yet we conceed goals from nearly every shot on target.
The manager and his team have to put both right if they are up to it.
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What a miss by may
We wouldn’t have lost most of the games we have done if we could have taken more of our scoring chances.
Would people have whinged like they have been doing if we had kept on winning, say by 3-2 or 4-3.
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Blaney has had a good game
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Blanket has had a good game
I thought he was sheet.
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Covered a lot of ground did he?
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Well another defeat to a lower level opposition team so we are out of the competition. Whether the support like this Cup or not our performances have not been good enough.
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I think everyone new at the start of the season the squad was not good enough, I still think our 1st 11 is so hopefully there will be enough money to get a couple of good loan players in and then have a good clearout at the end of the season
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I think everyone new at the start of the season the squad was not good enough, I still think our 1st 11 is so hopefully there will be enough money to get a couple of good loan players in and then have a good clearout at the end of the season
Everyone didn’t, there was debates going on for weeks on end about the quality of the squad. And we were told McCann had refused funds to spend as he felt he had a squad good enough for the top 6
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The way we are going at the minute we are lucky we aren't bottom 6 but we can put it right see what he brings in in January
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The way we are going at the minute we are lucky we aren't bottom 6 but we can put it right see what he brings in in January
Barring the last few games we've outplayed nearly everyone we've faced, including Portsmouth and Sunderland. It's not luck we're in 10th. This season was always going to be a challenge with a small squad, and I'm glad he played mostly youngsters and benchwarmers tonight. We do need to look to strengthen in January, as will every other team, but there's no need to panic.
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I agree we should be more pragmatic and see our short comings, but I doubt January will alter much as no one gives quality away and we need loads of it .
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I know but it is how we stop the rot, as the last poster said no one gives a good or decent player away
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alfie may one on one missed again (Taxi Taxi Taxi)
hardly a one on one did well to get there ahead of keeper
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Same old story can’t defend for toffee but enough chances to win 3 games even with the team we had out
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That's all well and good but this manager was tasked with a top 6 finish! Perhaps they really meant bottom 6!
We're three points off the top six with 29 league matches still to play.
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Sad thing about it we have been the better side missed a Shit load
It’s not sad vicar it’s getting monotonous. If we could take our chances then some of the defensive blunders could be overlooked
I disagree Steve, it's the other way round for me. You build a successful team from the back.
There's no way a team should lose or draw when they're scoring 2 or 3 goals. Our demise is down to the fact that our defence is atrocious.
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Our defence last season was very good the 6th best in the division conceding 52 goals in 46 games. This season with a better defence on paper they’re shipping goals left right and centre we’ve conceded 24 goals in 17 games.
Carry on like they are and we will be conceding 65-70 goals this season. No team can be successful shipping that amount of goals
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Sad thing about it we have been the better side missed a Shit load
It’s not sad vicar it’s getting monotonous. If we could take our chances then some of the defensive blunders could be overlooked
I disagree Steve, it's the other way round for me. You build a successful team from the back.
There's no way a team should lose or draw when they're scoring 2 or 3 goals. Our demise is down to the fact that our defence is atrocious.
Steve I want our defence to be better and it should be. But many supporters said last season was boring so GM set out to be more attractive. He’s not got it right especially after the first ten games. He and his staff are failing to put our defensive frailties right. Yet in a majority of games we are creating numerous chances, which the players are not taking. We should be building from the back but if in games we scored more then results would have been different and most supporters wanting attractive games would be happy.
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In the two interviews I’ve read today from Cliff Byrne he talks about improving the conversion rate on chances. About full backs last night in double figures for crosses in box. He also talks about chances we created and if we had taken them we would still be in the Cup. Not a mention about the defence and what they plan to do to improve it. Only Shaun Cummings to assist with injury cover and giving good experience.
Last night I think RJ questioned about T Anderson seems to have dropped off from last season and I think Selby mentioned about how wide the centre halves were. But again if both fullbacks are up pitch that will rely on centre halves having pace which Tom doesn’t not have and Blaney is a young lad. We played with three attacking midfield players so getting to our defence is easy.
No mention of building from the back it’s all about attacking football.
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You're right about the fullbacks. I noticed at Charlton how wide Anderson was moving when Charlton were attacking the away end.
I thought at the time it was just shite positioning, but now you mention it, I think that's the way we're set up to play. Which is absolute lunacy when you consider how, er, quick Anderson and Butler are.
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Red,that is exactly what I have been on about for ages, but the problem is not the lack of pace by the two centre backs, who by the way are nearly always up against attackers with lots of pace, that's just how it is, but they rely more on our midfield
players being able to keep the ball, and distribute it lots better than they have been.
If they lose it, the central defenders are outnumbered with runners coming from the oppositions midfield, and in most cases have to come wide out of position, Charlton worked it down our right for the first half with great success, unfortunately Blair has been found wanting in this area for ages, and Mason could be better.