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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Copps is Magic on November 24, 2018, 05:10:41 pm
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Would be more effective up front than May, and, most of the time, Marquis.
Discuss.
Why not try it. Or get a goal poacher in January McCann. We're going to fall short this season if we can't convert
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It would cost a fair bit of money to bring in a predator finisher.
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Try it and we lose our most influential player in middle of park
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Our most influential player by a mile and move him? Not for me I’m afraid
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Well then consign yourself to having an above average midfield but finishing 7th to 10th.
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Who knows who we are looking at for January?
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Sounds like you’re writing Marquis off too easily.. once he regains his scoring form, and Wilks too, and Rowe back in the fold, we have a solid base.
Yes, try and bring someone else in during January.. can’t argue against that..
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I don't think anyone's writing Marquis off.
But here's some concrete advise, time your runs better. Five incredible through balls today wasted because he strayed offside. And don't turn round blaming your teammates.
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Well then consign yourself to having an above average midfield but finishing 7th to 10th.
If you put your best player out of position you are probably consigning yourself to bottom half
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Well then consign yourself to having an above average midfield but finishing 7th to 10th.
If you put your best player out of position you are probably consigning yourself to bottom half
Rowe, Whiteman, Crawford, Copps form a more than competent enough midfield.
Football is about scoring goals to win. It's no good being the best team in the league around the center circle.
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It’s a completely different position, the gold he’s scored haven’t been goalscorer poacher goals. They’ve been great strikes from a very good midfielder
If he was playing upfront he wouldn’t have scored those goals.
He would be completely wasted as a striker
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The header today was, I don't know if you've seen it. 6 yards in front of goal, hanging around, ball comes to him he bangs it in with no hesitation.
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Yes I did
But look at his other goals, if he’d been a striker he wouldn’t have got them.
We would lose so much from our team if he left the middle of the park.
If he’s scored 4 and 4 from midfield then we’re gerring both things, his midfield performances plus the goals.
Would be like putting lampard up front just because he used to score a lot of goals from coming late into the box
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Putting Kane as a striker is a ridiculous idea, keep him where he is where he can influence the game. Agree to getting another striker in January to help support Marquis.
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It’s a completely different position, the gold he’s scored haven’t been goalscorer poacher goals. They’ve been great strikes from a very good midfielder
If he was playing upfront he wouldn’t have scored those goals.
He would be completely wasted as a striker
It's a fair point. As he is now showing he can chip in with goals but I'd rather have him starting in midfield. If GM saw fit to move him further forward during a game then fair dos. We have a great crop of players who can adapt. It's easy to be impatient when we're not perhaps converting enough chances but I'm sure GM will find a way to improve it, if it means bringing someone in.
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We might not have him after December!
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Might. Always look on the bright side of life. We better enjoy the rest of the games he plays for us then!
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It’s a completely different position, the gold he’s scored haven’t been goalscorer poacher goals. They’ve been great strikes from a very good midfielder
If he was playing upfront he wouldn’t have scored those goals.
He would be completely wasted as a striker
It's a fair point. As he is now showing he can chip in with goals but I'd rather have him starting in midfield. If GM saw fit to move him further forward during a game then fair dos. We have a great crop of players who can adapt. It's easy to be impatient when we're not perhaps converting enough chances but I'm sure GM will find a way to improve it, if it means bringing someone in.
But he’s scoring goals because he’s playing in midfield. Putting him as a striker doesn’t mean he will then start scoring more goals.
Football isn’t as simplistic as that
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No one ever played Frank lampard upfront. (Without checking this may not be true)
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I think Herbies that good you could chuck him in at left back and he'd still look a cut above. He's just streets ahead in terms of footballing nouse.
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It’s a completely different position, the gold he’s scored haven’t been goalscorer poacher goals. They’ve been great strikes from a very good midfielder
If he was playing upfront he wouldn’t have scored those goals.
He would be completely wasted as a striker
It's a fair point. As he is now showing he can chip in with goals but I'd rather have him starting in midfield. If GM saw fit to move him further forward during a game then fair dos. We have a great crop of players who can adapt. It's easy to be impatient when we're not perhaps converting enough chances but I'm sure GM will find a way to improve it, if it means bringing someone in.
But he’s scoring goals because he’s playing in midfield. Putting him as a striker doesn’t mean he will then start scoring more goals.
Football isn’t as simplistic as that
And football isn't as structured/rigid as you're making out either. Thinking that a young player' put in a position, necessarily has to stay there because he's playing well doesn't always make sense. Remember Gareth Bale playing at left back or wherever he used to play?
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I go along with CIM, this kid can do anything at this level of football. I would give it a go even, as suggested earlier, it was just for part of a game. Its good to mix things up in a game to cause confusion in the opposition.
He's not as good as the great man Alick but he's not far behind.
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How would Liverpool feel about this if they are intending to develop him into a top midfielder?
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Liverpool signed him because he's a very talented footballer. He's intelligent, he can adapt his game. Ronaldo and Messi are not strikers but score goals for fun. A manager or coach worth their salt will not pigoen hole him but play him in areas that get the best out of him.
Herbie in a recent interview said he played up front as a youngster so he has the eye for goal and I think McCann is tapping into that talent.
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He’s already a great asset in midfield and an outstanding future prospect at a higher level.
Don’t change anything.. if we are a goalscoring threat from midfield, all the better.. let the opposition worry themselves with Marquis and leave space for Kane etc to come through..
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Farce thread.
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Farce thread.
Crap - it’s a perfectly valid thread whether or not you agree with the posters..
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Farce thread.
Crap - it’s a perfectly valid thread whether or not you agree with the posters..
It’s like saying you think May should play in goal. Ridiculous.
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No, the OP posted a viewpoint and asked others to discuss..
I disagree with the OP but that’s ok isn’t it.?
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It's a debate, Someone asked a question and so far the responses have been constructive!
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Might. Always look on the bright side of life. We better enjoy the rest of the games he plays for us then!
Already considering going to Fleetwood and Gillingham away games so I dont miss a second of his spell with Rovers
He will be a distant memory all to soon but I will relish every second I watch him. OUTSTANDING
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Liverpool signed him because he's a very talented footballer. He's intelligent, he can adapt his game. Ronaldo and Messi are not strikers but score goals for fun. A manager or coach worth their salt will not pigoen hole him but play him in areas that get the best out of him.
Herbie in a recent interview said he played up front as a youngster so he has the eye for goal and I think McCann is tapping into that talent.
No manager worth their salt would take their best player out of his preferred position and try him in another one
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Farce thread.
Crap - it’s a perfectly valid thread whether or not you agree with the posters..
It’s like saying you think May should play in goal. Ridiculous.
Go on then betting sage, how exactly is suggesting an attacking player might be effective upfront the same as putting a leprechaun striker in net?
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He's not an attacking player though is he. He's a combative midfielder.
Take Kane out of that midfield and see what happens to it. He's invaluable in that role, his tackling, his energy, his range of passing and distribution are all better than anyone else we have. Take that out of our midfield to have him chasing forward runs and see which way we go in the table. I doubt it'll be up.
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Not an attacking player? Don't say daft things, you aren't daft.
https://twitter.com/StatsBomb/status/1038037198204018689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1038037198204018689&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thisisanfield.com%2F2018%2F10%2Fherbie-kane-how-steven-gerrards-old-pupil-became-liverpools-loanee-success-story%2F
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He’s a central midfielder which means he helps the defence and then helps the attack.
You’re talking like it’s changing a number 10 into a number 9. It’s not.
Kane is everywhere on the pitch and his only role certainly isn’t attacking
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Liverpool signed him because he's a very talented footballer. He's intelligent, he can adapt his game. Ronaldo and Messi are not strikers but score goals for fun. A manager or coach worth their salt will not pigoen hole him but play him in areas that get the best out of him.
Herbie in a recent interview said he played up front as a youngster so he has the eye for goal and I think McCann is tapping into that talent.
No manager worth their salt would take their best player out of his preferred position and try him in another one
The point I was making is that McCann has encouragehim to get into goalscoring positions and not be restricted to just midfield, his experience playing up front as a youth has helped his all round game. In the last few games he's been all over the pitch and trusts the players around him to do their jobs too and cover when he goes forward.
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Liverpool signed him because he's a very talented footballer. He's intelligent, he can adapt his game. Ronaldo and Messi are not strikers but score goals for fun. A manager or coach worth their salt will not pigoen hole him but play him in areas that get the best out of him.
Herbie in a recent interview said he played up front as a youngster so he has the eye for goal and I think McCann is tapping into that talent.
No manager worth their salt would take their best player out of his preferred position and try him in another one
The point I was making is that McCann has encouragehim to get into goalscoring positions and not be restricted to just midfield, his experience playing up front as a youth has helped his all round game. In the last few games he's been all over the pitch and trusts the players around him to do their jobs too and cover when he goes forward.
Part of a central midfielders role has always been to score goals though, it’s nothing new
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Leave him where he is doing a good job and get a striker in who is going to score goals, this has been our problem for two years and I'm sorry Will's just isn't that man! Invest in a striker and the top six will come. If we don't then accept mid table but improve the side don't move him for the sake of it.
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Absolutely. In previous games we saw him passing the ball off more often than having a go himself. No need for a second invitation over the last 4 games.
We may compare him to Richie Wellens but Richie was pretty shot shy and tended to offload too often when well placed.
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Interesting comment from McCann in his post match, saying that they've worked on changing Kane's game since he came in, asking him to burst forward and get the ball on the front foot rather than dropping deep for the ball.
Worked to great effect today. The guy is class though tbf and could probably play anywhere on the pitch and look head and shoulders above most of League One.
Can't ignore Whitemans impact this season also. He was a bit meh in terms of his all round game last season (although he was scoring more) but under McCann he's really making us tick and breaking up play well.
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Would be more effective up front than May, and, most of the time, Marquis.
Discuss.
Why not try it. Or get a goal poacher in January McCann. We're going to fall short this season if we can't convert
No, you wouldn't play Gerrard as a striker would you?
IMO doing that would be a huge detriment to midfield, we need a striker
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The biggest issue for me is not how many goals we're scoring but how many we're conceding.
Yes, I know we've missed shed loads of chances recently, but if we could keep a clean sheet once in a while that would be a great start (if we'd kept a clean sheet yesterday we'd have won)
We haven't kept a single clean sheet away from home yet this season I don't think. We need a solid base to build on defensively and we don't have that. We can't defend set pieces per se.
Ok, it may mean a few 0-0's to start off with, but if we could get it right at the back we only need a scrappy goal and we've won. Up front, aside from Marquis (when was the last time he scored in a league game?) we're struggling. Don't think May is good enough at this level, Wilkes has gone downhill in my opinion. I don't think either of them are better than Mandeville. Billy Sharp would score a hatful in this team!
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It’s more to do with the way we set up.
We set out to create chances and score goals, we’d need to change our formation and some of the personnel would have to be altered if we wanted to set up for 0-0 draws
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Exactly, and no one wants us to go defensive. We're playing some great football and it's not GMs philosophy!
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Great football from both Teams yesterday mainly by us of course lol
Noticeable we cut out a lot of the "playing from the back" also AND they always say Attack is the best form of Defence
Still very disappointed - nay gutted - that we failed to beat them but play like that more Rovers and I am looking forward to the Game Tuesday already !
Oh and I forgot it was a HK thread so how GOOD was the pass in the first half to Copps wide left and how good was Copps control of said pass. No need to answer as not many ever do - 10/10 in each case !
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It’s more to do with the way we set up.
We set out to create chances and score goals, we’d need to change our formation and some of the personnel would have to be altered if we wanted to set up for 0-0 draws
Exactly, and no one wants us to go defensive. We're playing some great football and it's not GMs philosophy!
I don't think it's the way we set up Dickos, I think what I'm saying is defensively we're not good enough. I think we need a centre half. Also, I think Andrew has been disappointing this season when he looked so good before he got injured last year.
Barry, I think defence is probably the biggest issue. If we don't stop shipping goals we won't get in the play offs I don't think.
You say we're playing some great football, I didn't go yesterday so can't comment on that, but last week we were awful against a very poor team.
Tuesday will be interesting. Blackpool have kept 10 clean sheets this season I think. If we'd done that we'd just about be top
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ps. To get back to the thread, we do need to keep Kane for the season. Probably been our best player
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We should not worry at minute till I happens, GM said yesterday after the game that it was not a rovers of Liverpool thing as all party's want him to stay here, he did say it was an agent problem
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f**king parasites.
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Hopefully common sense prevails and Herbie has the final say.
Yes Baz, we have shipped too many goals but I wouldn't necessarily put it down to one thing or one player. We have to learn to defend better as a team. Whether that's being better organised at set pieces, defending higher up the pitch and being more cynical as we were earlier, and taking more yellows I still prefer Marosi who at least can catch a ball whereas Lawlor dropped a couple yesterday which causes all sorts of panic.
I think we saw yesterday with Mason, maybe that need for another cultured centre back is not quite so urgent.
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It’s more to do with the way we set up.
We set out to create chances and score goals, we’d need to change our formation and some of the personnel would have to be altered if we wanted to set up for 0-0 draws
Exactly, and no one wants us to go defensive. We're playing some great football and it's not GMs philosophy!
I don't think it's the way we set up Dickos, I think what I'm saying is defensively we're not good enough. I think we need a centre half. Also, I think Andrew has been disappointing this season when he looked so good before he got injured last year.
Barry, I think defence is probably the biggest issue. If we don't stop shipping goals we won't get in the play offs I don't think.
You say we're playing some great football, I didn't go yesterday so can't comment on that, but last week we were awful against a very poor team.
Tuesday will be interesting. Blackpool have kept 10 clean sheets this season I think. If we'd done that we'd just about be top
But last season with the same players our defence was very good, but this was because fergie started setting us up to not get beat. And we played deep and let sides come onto us, our midfield and attack was a lot more defensive.
Playing as we do now, is much more entertaining and we’re creating far more chances but that is at the expense of keeping clean sheets.
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I think we saw yesterday with Mason, maybe that need for another cultured centre back is not quite so urgent.
Agreed dbr, but we then need to fill the right back position with someone much better than Cummings! And Blair, as we all know, hates playing right back and he is more than a useful back up for either midfield 3 or even the front 3. I think Lund will be gone after this season and we need to be giving some serious thought to this. Mason has done a great job at RB but was even better in his preferred position yesterday. He has to be the most under-rated player on our books, when you consider what some of our supporters think about him!
January is going to be very interesting indeed and I keep saying it will define the rest of our season. The manager has already said we will be strengthening in a couple of positions and I would like to think both Anderson (loan) and, controversially, Wilkes (loan) maybe terminated and those 2 replaced with 2 better individuals.
An absolute no-brainer though is the extending of Herbie's stay.
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Apart from the half a Mickey Mouse cup game, has anyone seen Cummings play?
If not it’s seems a bit harsh to judge him on that.
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Agreed Hound, he's had 45 minutes in a second class cup game and suddenly some have decided he isn't good enough?
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Agreed Hound, he's had 45 minutes in a second class cup game and suddenly some have decided he isn't good enough?
My Dad alwas instilled in me NOT to judge a man on one appearance - and I did watch Cummin(g)s for 45 Mins at Notts County so I have to wait for another game before passing judgement on him
I got closest to breaking this "rule" when I first saw Herbie. I was asked after 80 Mins of his debut - well what do you think. I told of the rule above.
The next Game HK played in he produced a great piece of skill after about 5 minutes so I said "thats it - I have not judged him on one appearance - Ive seen awhole game AND 5 minutes and hes great"
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... and he IS
How do people like Kirkwoods Dad get bets on such as "he will Play for England one day - or before he is 25" ?
I would like a dabble on a bet like that !
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I think we saw yesterday with Mason, maybe that need for another cultured centre back is not quite so urgent.
Agreed dbr, but we then need to fill the right back position with someone much better than Cummings! And Blair, as we all know, hates playing right back and he is more than a useful back up for either midfield 3 or even the front 3. I think Lund will be gone after this season and we need to be giving some serious thought to this. Mason has done a great job at RB but was even better in his preferred position yesterday. He has to be the most under-rated player on our books, when you consider what some of our supporters think about him!
January is going to be very interesting indeed and I keep saying it will define the rest of our season. The manager has already said we will be strengthening in a couple of positions and I would like to think both Anderson (loan) and, controversially, Wilkes (loan) maybe terminated and those 2 replaced with 2 better individuals.
An absolute no-brainer though is the extending of Herbie's stay.
How can you say we need someone much better than Cummings?
No way you can rate a player on 45 mins in a reserve game.
Lots of examples of players who started off not very good and became outstanding. Brain stock for one, John Doolan another
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I remember seeing Darren Moore play against us for Torquay and we thrashes them.
I couldn't believe it when we later signed him but what a signing he was.
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Dickos (and others who are struggling with the concept of people having opinions), my view is not even based on 45 mins v Notts County, as I wasn't there to watch it, thank goodness.
I am simply coming at it from a more long term view and am basing my opinion on the fact that he never pulled any trees up at his last club and he hasn't been doing anything since. Further, are you really going to try and tell me that he will be good enough for a side who are hoping to be a division higher as early as next season?
He could, of course, get a second wind and prove me very wrong, but I think his best days are probably behind him and the manager was trying to be 'canny' and further, hopefully, trying to protect the squad to cover for injury. I don't blame him for that and it was worth a punt, as they say. One for the future though - nah, not for me. We are trying to move onwards and upwards and we need younger, stronger and fitter defenders if we are to progress.
You will all have your own opinions on the matter, I appreciate that and respect other's views, but I don't have to agree with them.
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As you say Allan he may be very short term cover due to the loan system.
I don't think that a long contract would be offered due to his age however good he is.
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I’m just baffled how you can have the opinion that a player is nowhere near good enough when you’ve never seen him play
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Aye. He might turn out to be total gash. But he's not even been given a chance yet.
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Liverpool signed him because he's a very talented footballer. He's intelligent, he can adapt his game. Ronaldo and Messi are not strikers but score goals for fun. A manager or coach worth their salt will not pigoen hole him but play him in areas that get the best out of him.
Herbie in a recent interview said he played up front as a youngster so he has the eye for goal and I think McCann is tapping into that talent.
No manager worth their salt would take their best player out of his preferred position and try him in another one
of course not .... who was it must have been Dickov ? played Copps at right back - on has was it 300th game for Rovers
-- against Birmingham at home Rovers winning 2-0 coasting and seem to remember Copps was at fault for one of the goals maybe the first -badly out of position ? yes there was an injury crisis
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The second and third goals both came down that flank after James Husband got caught in possession for their first.
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As I was saying, Herbert could acore 20 goals upfront in this side this season. Defy anyone to tell me otherwise.
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He will score 12-15 from midfield and we don’t lose all his other strengths like we would if he was stood upfront.
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He probably could.
He could also score 15 from midfield and be much more influential on the overall team.
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Did Ronaldo, Bale, Henry not get moved further up the pitch and still be hugely influential on the team? You can lead from anywhere.
Obviously he ran from the half-way line to close their defender down for the goal. But I really hope his finish doesn't go unnoticed, touch of an angel standing on a profiterole to glide that one over the keeper.
Talent to play as a forward.
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He's a very intelligent cool customer. Calmed his game down a bit after his booking.
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That feint he did when he dropped his shoulder but just ignored the ball allowing Copps to have it, then took it back and pinged a 50 yard ball diagonally forward into space for Crawford? Was something else.
What a player he's going to become.
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As I was saying, Herbert could acore 20 goals upfront in this side this season. Defy anyone to tell me otherwise.
Keep him in midfield he's got an all round game and too much of an influence to start moving around. He can break up play, score and pick a pass. Just a proper footballer.
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Did Ronaldo, Bale, Henry not get moved further up the pitch and still be hugely influential on the team? You can lead from anywhere.
Obviously he ran from the half-way line to close their defender down for the goal. But I really hope his finish doesn't go unnoticed, touch of an angel standing on a profiterole to glide that one over the keeper.
Talent to play as a forward.
If he’s scoring goals regularly from midfield, I don’t understand why anyone would suggest putting him up front.
He controls the game from midfield, wins the ball back, distributes the ball outstandingly, and to top it off he can finish.
He’s a proper box to box midfielder who can score goals,
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Did Ronaldo, Bale, Henry not get moved further up the pitch and still be hugely influential on the team? You can lead from anywhere.
Obviously he ran from the half-way line to close their defender down for the goal. But I really hope his finish doesn't go unnoticed, touch of an angel standing on a profiterole to glide that one over the keeper.
Talent to play as a forward.
They were all wingers. None had the influence he does dictating games in the middle of the park. He’s having a good run of goalscoring form but it doesn’t make your suggestion any less daft.
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Did Ronaldo, Bale, Henry not get moved further up the pitch and still be hugely influential on the team? You can lead from anywhere.
Obviously he ran from the half-way line to close their defender down for the goal. But I really hope his finish doesn't go unnoticed, touch of an angel standing on a profiterole to glide that one over the keeper.
Talent to play as a forward.
If he’s scoring goals regularly from midfield, I don’t understand why anyone would suggest putting him up front.
He controls the game from midfield, wins the ball back, distributes the ball outstandingly, and to top it off he can finish.
He’s a proper box to box midfielder who can score goals,
I don’t ever recall Frank Lampard being played as a forward and he scored plenty of goals.
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The lad is a joy to watch. If he keeps working and has some luck with injury, there's no limit to where he could go.
I said a couple of weeks ago that what's impressed me most about him has been his attitude. When he first came, there was no Flash bas**rd about him. He did the simple things right and earned the right to play.
Now we're seeing a much bigger repertoire. Biggest eye opener today was how he outpaced their right back midway through the second half to get a cross in. I've not seen that burst of pace before and he'll need that at the very top. I wonder how much more there is to come that we haven't seen yet?
And then there is the mester side of him. When Morris caught him with a nasty one, early on, you knew what was coming next time Morris got the ball. Kane absolutely wiped him out. Imagine what he'll be like when his balls drop.
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BST, I remember that burst of pace that you mention.
I have noticed before that he is really quick over 5 to 10 yards.
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Best Christmas present we could hope for if he stays all season.
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Did Ronaldo, Bale, Henry not get moved further up the pitch and still be hugely influential on the team? You can lead from anywhere.
Obviously he ran from the half-way line to close their defender down for the goal. But I really hope his finish doesn't go unnoticed, touch of an angel standing on a profiterole to glide that one over the keeper.
Talent to play as a forward.
They were all wingers. None had the influence he does dictating games in the middle of the park. He’s having a good run of goalscoring form but it doesn’t make your suggestion any less daft.
Bale was a defender.
Listen, it's daft if you think he can't player as a forward/striker. If you do, say it now and we'll reconvene in a couple of years.
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Bale didn’t jump from left back to playing up front did he? He progressively moved further forward.
Herbie is a massive talent but he’s playing in his best position. I’d be astonished if he ends up playing up front.
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I thought that Bale went from left back to left winger.
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Did Ronaldo, Bale, Henry not get moved further up the pitch and still be hugely influential on the team? You can lead from anywhere.
Obviously he ran from the half-way line to close their defender down for the goal. But I really hope his finish doesn't go unnoticed, touch of an angel standing on a profiterole to glide that one over the keeper.
Talent to play as a forward.
They were all wingers. None had the influence he does dictating games in the middle of the park. He’s having a good run of goalscoring form but it doesn’t make your suggestion any less daft.
Bale was a defender.
Listen, it's daft if you think he can't player as a forward/striker. If you do, say it now and we'll reconvene in a couple of years.
Nobody is saying he can’t.
But nobody in their right mind would move him to a striker when he’s so influential in the middle of the park.
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I thought that Bale went from left back to left winger.
He did
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Anyone notice the free kick he played off a prone Copps
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Best Christmas present we could hope for if he stays all season.
I can see us getting an early Christmas present.
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Anyone notice the free kick he played off a prone Copps
It was John but yeah he had everyone in West stand laughing. He's great.
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Yeah. Except it was Marquis. Genius, that was. Shows how fast his mind works.
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Eastender wrote:
I can see us getting an early Christmas present.
Is that wishful thinking, or does someone know something?
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Doh well it was cold
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You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this CIM and have clearly been waiting for an opportunity to revive this thread.
Fair enough, it’s all about opinions.
I just appreciate what Herbie is bringing to our midfield, which is a much more valuable contribution than if he was stuck up front.
And he’s scoring goals; I don’t see a need to change anything.
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You seem to have a bee in your bonnet about this CIM and have clearly been waiting for an opportunity to revive this thread.
Fair enough, it’s all about opinions.
I just appreciate what Herbie is bringing to our midfield, which is a much more valuable contribution than if he was stuck up front.
And he’s scoring goals; I don’t see a need to change anything.
Exactly
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Is Herbie Copps’s love Child from a previous romance?
They seem to play as if they’ve known each other for years.
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Here's a thought...Herbie Kane was 5 years old when Coppinger signed for Rovers. Now look at them linking up together in an exciting DRFC team.
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Eastender wrote:
I can see us getting an early Christmas present.
Is that wishful thinking, or does someone know something?
I've heard a rumour , early next week (in good faith),but can't elaborate .
Let's wait and see , it could be rubbish .
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Is Herbie Copps’s love Child from a previous romance?
They seem to play as if they’ve known each other for years.
There was an exchange between them early in the game that was telepathic! Magical to watch!
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If I have missed it already forgive me but did anyone else see the cheeky free kick he took off Marquis back just in front of the West stand? You can't teach that, pure brilliance
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Is Herbie Copps’s love Child from a previous romance?
They seem to play as if they’ve known each other for years.
There was an exchange between them early in the game that was telepathic! Magical to watch!
We've known for years Copps' special talent and it is no surprise to me, as soon as we get another special talent in the team they work together to such good effect. Just a shame we've had to wait so long to see it again.
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If I have missed it already forgive me but did anyone else see the cheeky free kick he took off Marquis back just in front of the West stand? You can't teach that, pure brilliance
Laughed my b*llocks off at that. Can't wait to follow his career after Rovers.
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They even look alike lol
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It was very impressive how he saw the opportunity to pounce on the defender for his goal. He obviously doesn't switch off much if at all during a game.
Old beyond his years and a joy to watch.
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They even look alike lol
I’ve heard this said quite a few times - am I the only one who doesn’t think they look anything like each other? Both short (Copps obviously more so) and similarish hair colour but that’s all I can see!
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If I have missed it already forgive me but did anyone else see the cheeky free kick he took off Marquis back just in front of the West stand? You can't teach that, pure brilliance
I think it was Saunders playing for Galataseray, took a throw in to hit an opposition players back then took the ball , shot and scored a terrific goal. Great footballer but not a character I personally liked.
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Wasn’t it when he played for Sheff U
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No he was playing for Sheff Utd
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Think that's what he said :blush:
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I obviously thought wrong!
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It was very impressive how he saw the opportunity to pounce on the defender for his goal. He obviously doesn't switch off much if at all during a game.
Old beyond his years and a joy to watch.
Not only how he saw it, but how he controlled his touch as hegot to the ball a split second before the defender. Gorgeous touch. Just enough to lift it over the challenge but not so hard as to run it through to the keeper.
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They even look alike lol
I’ve heard this said quite a few times - am I the only one who doesn’t think they look anything like each other? Both short (Copps obviously more so) and similarish hair colour but that’s all I can see!
I wouldn't say it's anything to do with their facial features, but from the distance of being in the crowd I have got them mixed up a few times. Similar hair colour, similar height and build and both midfielders. Add in that they're wearing the same kit and it's not too bizarre that folks have been saying they look similar. :P
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That is what I think too RA.
When the play is at the opposite end of the pitch it is often difficult to tell whether it is Copps or Herbie on the ball.
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Tricks and flicks have been Copps domain so when Herbie joins the party you can understand the confusion.
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If I have missed it already forgive me but did anyone else see the cheeky free kick he took off Marquis back just in front of the West stand? You can't teach that, pure brilliance
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=aPXrZdia6_E
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Definitely a bit of the cheeky impudence of Gazza in him. Other players respond and are inspired to do better things. No doubt he's given Copps a new lease of life.
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If I have missed it already forgive me but did anyone else see the cheeky free kick he took off Marquis back just in front of the West stand? You can't teach that, pure brilliance
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=aPXrZdia6_E
I am sure that years ago such a "move" would have been judged as "ungentlemanlly conduct" - although Dean Saunders got away with the Throw in onto the Opposing Keepers back
I dont care - because I love Herbie with a passion and that was another example of his quick thinking / impudence / brilliance. One thing did spring to mind "if it WAS against the Rules would Muppet Woolmer have known (or noticed) ?
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They even look alike lol
I’ve heard this said quite a few times - am I the only one who doesn’t think they look anything like each other? Both short (Copps obviously more so) and similarish hair colour but that’s all I can see!
On the pitch they look very similar. Even down to the way they move.
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Kane and Copps seem to have brought the best out of each other. Copps looks like hes rolled back the clock 3 or 4 years and seems to be having so much fun, and Herbie clearly loves playing our brand of passing, technical football. Everyone just looks like this little winning run (and the tightening up of the defence) has given everyone a massive confidence boost at just the right time.
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Eastender wrote:
I can see us getting an early Christmas present.
Is that wishful thinking, or does someone know something?
I've heard a rumour , early next week (in good faith),but can't elaborate .
Let's wait and see , it could be rubbish .
:scarf: :scarf: :clapping: :clapping:
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Well done Eastender!