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Title: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: selby on January 27, 2019, 02:54:34 pm
    Another big game looming for both clubs, with both teams in the last few seasons meeting on a regular basis, and every game being tight affairs with two well matched sides.
  Portsmouth have been probably the outstanding team in league 1 this season, very consistent, still involved in the FA cup and the semifinals of the Chekatrade Trophy, so are doing well on three fronts, and have a tremendous following with most of their home games being sold out in the home sections.
   Our game follows their home league game against Luton Town on Tuesday, their FA cup game at home to Q.P.R. yesterday which they drew, so they must be viewing this seven day period as one of the more important periods for them of the season.
    Ably managed by Kenny Jackett, and led on the field by the dangerous Bret Pitman they have a solid team of good players who have generally been well known to us from past meetings who are added to every season, a long way from me putting twenty quid in the bucket to get them going again a few seasons ago, the woman collecting being very pleased and appreciative of the Rovers  Fans generosity that day.
   A hard game in front of us, but at least we have a week to plan, recover, calm down, and go again.
   With just a few days of the transfer window left, both clubs will be hoping their better players feel settled and stay put, some of the teams competing to go up could be disrupted including ourselves.
   So, How do you see it going?
   With more competition for places, what team would you Pick?
   Do you think cup fever is a distraction?
   Are you  going to the game?
   Will you ever forgive Portsmouth for having Kitson play for them?
   These and lots more questions to be discussed about this game, please have your say.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on January 27, 2019, 03:00:57 pm
Tough game this and then a huge one at home the week after. Huge run of games coming.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on January 27, 2019, 03:06:06 pm
Definitely winnable. Wasn't impressed with them at the Keepmoat. If our young players can keep their heads, there's no reason we can't get a good result.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: tyke1962 on January 27, 2019, 03:08:15 pm
A Rovers win would be most welcome over here .

Wasn't that impressed with them at Oakwell and they were very fortunate to get a point .

You can beat them in my opinion .
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: Jim Dobbin on January 27, 2019, 03:57:22 pm
Portsmouth will struggle to make the play offs, l wouldn't say they are the outstanding team. They are also on a bad run.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: IDM on January 27, 2019, 04:21:02 pm
Portsmouth will struggle to make the play offs.??

I have little time for them but they need to have relegation form for the rest of the season to finish outside the top 6..
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: les@donr on January 27, 2019, 04:24:08 pm
Aren't we their jinx team?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: Paul Simpson on January 27, 2019, 04:28:43 pm
A very winnable game if we play to our ability. Start Tyler Smith and downing alongside butler imo .
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: Chris Black come back on January 27, 2019, 05:20:34 pm
Our record there is pretty good and they are now t generally on a great run of form at the moment.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: Campsall rover on January 27, 2019, 05:35:23 pm
We have won 3 and drawn 1 of our last 4 matches at Fratton Park.
They are on a sticky run at the moment so if we are on it then it’s a winnable game.
Good time to be playing them as they have a match this Tues v Luton in the league and the replay at QPR on the following Tues.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: dknward2 on January 27, 2019, 05:39:30 pm
Just need 3 red cards and injures for both teams on Tues all 2 yellows plus any players on 9 bookings to be booked too
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: drfchound on January 27, 2019, 05:42:45 pm
Not much then.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: dknward2 on January 27, 2019, 05:47:00 pm
Ha no never ask for too much
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: drfchound on January 27, 2019, 05:48:37 pm
Don’t ask don’t get mate.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: scawsby steve on January 27, 2019, 06:16:28 pm
A very winnable game if we play to our ability. Start Tyler Smith and downing alongside butler imo .

How on earth can you justify dropping Tom Anderson?.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: selby on January 28, 2019, 11:54:21 am
  Steve, I agree with your sentiments, Anderson has played very well and has been a big part of us playing well in recent games and until he loses form should keep the shirt.
   It does show however how the strength of the squad has improved since Christmas that players like Tommy Rowe are not automatic choices, the lad from Sheff U and Sadlier will put pressure on the front men, and  the lad from Swasea will be pushing to get in the side. Coupled with Wright returning and things look a lot better.
   Only hanging on to everyone, especially Marquis and Whiteman could cloud the horizon.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: since-1969 on January 28, 2019, 01:04:34 pm
It has the hall marks of a season defining game , with our new fortunes in the cup is showing the boards trust in McCann to stear the club to a higher level has been right from day one . McCann’s astute loans have installed belief and character that’s  within the teams abilities to progress .
With Kane and Mason returning it has steadied the ship and with Stadlier Lewis and Downing to select from it gives Pompey a real headache prempting our selection to start the game . A win is more important now if we are to slow down their progress and others in the mix . I feel we now have momentum on our side and should get a result .
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on January 28, 2019, 04:06:26 pm
my best mate omar bogle has just gone on loan there …. now spot on 2 years since he flew the Grimsby nest 
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: steve@dcfd on January 28, 2019, 06:13:15 pm
Two players Thompson and Hawkins have missed the last 8/6 games respectively. Hawkins could play some part tonight but both will be ready for our game on Saturday. Plus new signing Bogle will add to there fire power.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: Jim Dobbin on January 30, 2019, 12:22:42 am
Portsmouth will struggle to make the play offs.??

I have little time for them but they need to have relegation form for the rest of the season to finish outside the top 6..

Like sitting at the top of the table and losing 4 games out of their next six? They are on relegation form alright.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: selby on January 30, 2019, 09:38:09 am
  Yes Jim, and we have a long history of taking that attitude into a game and getting that team back on track. 
   The upsetting story to break about Mason is forced to be an issue at least in the near future, with the management having to make a decision on how the club should handle it, and they  will realise that they will not be able to do right for doing wrong. Some supporters wanting him sacked, while others will still want him to play.
   I can only say how disappointed I am with the player whose actions have brought bad publicity to the club, something we can well do without.
   Certainly there will be repercussions with the club and Mason,and I think we the supporters should take a step back and let them sort their business out themselves, his value as a saleable asset to the club probably now gone.
  Portsmouth will be smarting from their recent form, and will be a tougher proposition because of it, and may have a couple of new signings by the end of the window to  throw at us.
   Only at our best will we be able to come away with a result, both teams having different pressures on them Portsmouth on the field and us off it now. 
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 30, 2019, 11:01:41 am
Not sure on the team i'd pick for this I've not seen pompey play other than at the keepmoat earlier in the season where they didn't look anything special. In big games i always find the temptation to fit Blair in the team maybe for one of the front 3 because he'll work his b*llocks off both going forwards/defending and makes decent runs which give Kane etc space(our Park Ji-Sung).

But we are dangerous going forward and it'd be against McCann's style to try to be more solid so i expect a 433 as usual. I hope Alfie starts but reckon Wilks and Copps will be either side of Marquis with Crawford back in the middle
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: selby on January 30, 2019, 11:55:22 am
  My thoughts  on last weeks game was that Herbie Kane played much deeper with Crawford missing from the team. We press much higher up the field when Crawford plays giving the rest in midfield more space to play in the centre of the field which is  our strength.
   Instead we were on the receiving end in that area with Oldhams big midfielder No 42 having a great game against us, and making a battle of it, although we were the better team.
  Portsmouth will be man for man much better than Oldham, and will have more of the game, Blair or  the lad from Swansea  probably playing the right back area will I think be one change, where we are likely to be playing part of the game on the counter, I would prefer Wilks to start up front with Marquis assuming he is still our player at least until the end of the season.
  Better to stick to talking football for the rest of this week and not be distracted by other events.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: steve@dcfd on January 30, 2019, 03:21:38 pm
Looks like they might be signing Lloyd Isgrove( winger) from Barnsley
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: drfchound on January 30, 2019, 04:36:40 pm
On the back of their losing run, Pompey will be under pressure from their supporters.
If we could score first, especially an early goal, then the crowd will be right on their case and it will become an uphill battle for them.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: godlike1 on January 30, 2019, 06:14:32 pm
After the loss at Luton is a massive game for pompey who will be all guns blazing at us. We need to be strong, bide our time and sneak an unlikely away goal. We need to keep in touch with the top 6 so I think this is a very big game for us
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: dknward2 on January 30, 2019, 07:52:53 pm
Swap mason for butler then could work
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: drfchound on January 30, 2019, 07:55:24 pm
Swap mason for butler then could work





I know Ferguson is in the news again.........but........three at the back, no thanks.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on January 30, 2019, 08:00:20 pm
Yeah lets not drop our team shape and way of playing to fit players in. Blair at right back for me I'd like to say Lewis would play but when Mason was out recently GM looked to Blair which makes me think Lewis is still a bit green.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: since-1969 on January 30, 2019, 08:10:47 pm
Swap mason for butler then could work
Play 5 across the middle to slow them down . We have brilliant midfield who have ability to play close and get behind their defenders with Marquis the best striker in FL .


                    Marquis
                May OR Wilks .
  Rowe Kane Whiteman Crawford Copps
         Andrews Downing Mason
                      Marosi
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: scawsby steve on January 30, 2019, 09:22:21 pm
Swap mason for butler then could work
Play 5 across the middle to slow them down . We have brilliant midfield who have ability to play close and get behind their defenders with Marquis the best striker in FL .


                    Marquis
                May OR Wilks .
  Rowe Kane Whiteman Crawford Copps
         Andrews Downing Mason
                      Marosi

What, no Anderson, Butler, or Wright?. Are you on drugs?.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: DearneValleyRover on January 31, 2019, 11:40:15 am
Marosi
Blair Downing Butler Andrew
Crawford Whiteman Kane
Smith Marquis May

The reason for dropping Anderson is due to us bringing Downing in to stop the set piece goals and that he has partnered Butler before, the reason for Blair I think is obvious given the events of this week. 
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: steve@dcfd on January 31, 2019, 11:42:05 am
Portsmouth have signed another striker from Wigan James Vaughan. That’s the second this week from the Championship this game is getting harder.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on January 31, 2019, 11:45:10 am
It's creating an unsettled squad for them.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: Alan Southstand on January 31, 2019, 11:48:19 am
Havn't they also signed a winger from Barnsley?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: Filo on January 31, 2019, 11:53:41 am
Swap mason for butler then could work
Play 5 across the middle to slow them down . We have brilliant midfield who have ability to play close and get behind their defenders with Marquis the best striker in FL .


                    Marquis
                May OR Wilks .
  Rowe Kane Whiteman Crawford Copps
         Andrews Downing Mason
                      Marosi


Not sure you’ve got a grasp of tactics, formations, and the type of players needed to play the required formation, are you Darren Ferguson?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: RedJ on January 31, 2019, 12:57:34 pm
Swap mason for butler then could work
Play 5 across the middle to slow them down . We have brilliant midfield who have ability to play close and get behind their defenders with Marquis the best striker in FL .


                    Marquis
                May OR Wilks .
  Rowe Kane Whiteman Crawford Copps
         Andrews Downing Mason
                      Marosi


Not sure you’ve got a grasp of tactics, formations, and the type of players needed to play the required formation, are you Darren Ferguson?

I know - Marquis in goal and Marosi up front?!

:coat:
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: selby on February 01, 2019, 02:15:22 pm
Cannon and Morris two of Portsmouth's new signings look to be unfit to play, although Bogle and Vaughan look like starters up front for them tomorrow, and will no doubt be wanting to impress.
  They look to have a strong squad, many of the players having played against us in the past if not for Pompey for other teams we have played against before such as Sonny Bradley at Plymouth.
   There is no current mention of inclement weather threatening the game on their forums at the moment, but the weather between Doncaster and Portsmouth could be tricky, lets hope it clears up for those travelling tomorrow.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: drfchound on February 01, 2019, 02:27:29 pm
Pompey were lucky to get a point in our earlier meeting this season.
I know they may play better this time but we do have the beating of them on our good days.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: IDM on February 01, 2019, 02:31:36 pm
I would say Pompey May be favourites for tomorrow but a concern may be how to integrate several new players straight into the team.

I’ll go for an early goal from a fired up Marquis tonset the game alight..
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: RedJ on February 01, 2019, 02:43:52 pm
If you're driving down I'd advise taking the M1 route.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth g
Post by: since-1969 on February 01, 2019, 03:07:39 pm
Swap mason for butler then could work
Play 5 across the middle to slow them down . We have brilliant midfield who have ability to play close and get behind their defenders with Marquis the best striker in FL .


                    Marquis
                May OR Wilks .
  Rowe Kane Whiteman Crawford Copps
         Andrews Downing Mason
                      Marosi

What, no Anderson, Butler, or Wright?. Are you on drugs?.
EXACTLY!!! They’d expect us to stick the same old same old ! . Keep it light at the back tight in the middle and fast up front .
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: the vicar on February 01, 2019, 03:33:29 pm
Definitely winnable. Wasn't impressed with them at the Keepmoat. If our young players can keep their heads, there's no reason we can't get a good result.
I for one was impressed with them, we almost lost the game and they were fast on the counter, we did some very good saves and did they not hit the post late on
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on February 01, 2019, 04:18:34 pm
Swap mason for butler then could work
Play 5 across the middle to slow them down . We have brilliant midfield who have ability to play close and get behind their defenders with Marquis the best striker in FL .


                    Marquis
                May OR Wilks .
  Rowe Kane Whiteman Crawford Copps
         Andrews Downing Mason
                      Marosi

What, no Anderson, Butler, or Wright?. Are you on drugs?.
EXACTLY!!! They’d expect us to stick the same old same old ! . Keep it light at the back tight in the middle and fast up front .

But isn't there a reason the same old is the same old? i don't think playing one centre half is going to throw pompey off if anything it'll give them plenty of encouragement.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 01, 2019, 05:00:20 pm
I can see the merit of bringing Butler back in but, Anderson has done well and Downing deserves another shout after his strong debut last week.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on February 01, 2019, 05:46:01 pm
Harsh on who every out of those 3 is on the bench but that's a good thing really. I feel like Downing will have to play we haven't signed him to sit on the bench so maybe it's easier to keep the players that started v Oldham. Personally i'd start with Butler and Downing which is hard on big Tom but we always look better with Butler organising in there
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: IDM on February 01, 2019, 06:06:13 pm
I suppose now we have the choice of defenders we may play those best suited to the specific opponebts??
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: les@donr on February 01, 2019, 08:59:06 pm
We can win, all the pressure will be on Pompey, especially from their fans if they make a poor start to the game.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: sedwardsdrfc on February 01, 2019, 09:14:27 pm
I suppose now we have the choice of defenders we may play those best suited to the specific opponebts??

I get what your saying but generally the back 4 as a unit need to be as settled as possible because it's all about teamwork and knowing where each other is.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: TheFunk on February 01, 2019, 09:18:41 pm
Butler is the only naturally left sided centre half we have so should start for me.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: Alan Southstand on February 01, 2019, 10:24:39 pm
The big problem now is who do we play at right back. The manager has gone on record as saying he doesn't like playing square pegs in round holes, so does he give Lewis a baptism of fire or go with Blair? Tough call. It would also be very tough on Anderson if he misses out, but I can see the case for Butler.

I prefer to see Matty on the right of our engine room 3, particularly away from home. But is it too much to expect Lewis to step in and do a job?

The other quandary is who makes the front 3? JM obviously picks himself, but what about either side of him? Wilks, Copps, Sadlier, May and Smith all vying to start.

The last remaining concern, for me, is the booking situation with both HK and Whiteman. We can maybe fill in for one of them (v Peterborough) but not both, if they both get yellow's.

Who'd be a manager?
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: drfchound on February 01, 2019, 10:34:17 pm
McCann has some tough decisions to make but it is good that we have so many good options to choose from.
We have lots of games coming up so will need to utilise the squad.
Bring it on.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: RoversAlias on February 01, 2019, 10:39:59 pm
Presuming he is match fit, I'd stick Lewis in at RB tomorrow. That said, Blair has done a solid job there recently. I'd struggle not to keep Anderson in as well although it'd be with Butler for me, despite how good Downing played last week.

It's great to have a wealth of options available!
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: Bezza on February 02, 2019, 11:40:07 am
This will be a Stern test, Portsmouth have signed well in the window, we need to be at our best, win or draw would be a good result,
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: DonnyBazR0ver on February 02, 2019, 12:25:45 pm
Team selection will be very interesting. I haven't got a clue which way he will go.

I hope to see Tyler Smith at some point. Very pacey, hard working and 2 goals on your debut. A dream start. Perhaps more level headed than Wilks.

Sadlier. Not much been said since last week but I thought he had a decent debut. Seemed to suffer a bit when he switched to the right side but looks a strong lad who's prepared to have a go. Not sure whether he or Crawford will start and it seems Rowe will have to be patient.
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
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Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: selby on February 03, 2019, 09:33:32 am
  A game where we proved once again that we can match the best teams in this division and are more than capable of competing for a top six place if we are on our game, and capable of doing well if we get into the knock out stages, we should fear nobody at this level.
  There is no arguing that we gave a poor goal away with a mistake by Marko, the only one of the game, but he proved what a great goalkeeper he can be in the remaining minutes of the game, and made several top draw saves, proving he did not let the goal effect him a good trait in a goalkeeper who all make mistakes over a number of games.
   Lewis made his debut, Portsmouth picking him out for attention especially in the first quarter with attacks aimed down the right flank, but he did great, looked a good defender with pace, did not get pulled about, and was assured when he had the ball, everything we want out of young players.
   The substitutes bench looked very strong, and proved so when Crawford came on for Whiteman and played very very well, both winning the ball, and setting up attacks, and with Kane looking back to full fitness and playing well we looked a force.
  Marquis and Wilks were tightly marked and Portsmouth got bodies around them when they got possession, but Wilks was on his game, got the goal with a sprint of lightening pace leaving defenders in his wake, and John bringing out a good save from the goalkeeper.
   All in all a good performance at a difficult place to go, and a team that was smarting from recent results, and with new signings making their home debuts, and a partisan large crowd.
   That brings me to our own away following, they were great,well behaved and got behind the team, especially after the equaliser, and after the media coverage of the bad travelling conditions especially in Hampshire on Friday, deserve plaudits for their commitment and enthusiasm and the numbers that went to the game.
 
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: graingrover on February 03, 2019, 09:42:56 pm
I guess that must be the first time we have fielded 5 loanees.

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Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: since-1969 on February 03, 2019, 09:54:16 pm
Very impressed with the way played and kept Pompey on their heals . Shame about Maros’s mistake a win would have been nice . If we work as hard as that from here on in , we’ll be challenging for a top 2 slot .
Title: Re: Let's talk about the Portsmouth game
Post by: RedJ on February 03, 2019, 10:40:06 pm
I guess that must be the first time we have fielded 5 loanees.

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Nah, I'm fairly sure we fielded 5 in the experiment season. I seem to think Ben Alnwick (was it him) couldn't be in the squad because of the number of loanees we had.