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Title: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: drfcbenny625 on March 30, 2019, 05:30:39 pm
I love Marquis but I'm of the opinion that he'll be off in the summer regardless of what league we're in. So the question is do we then go and give the money we get for him to Leeds for Wilks?
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: grayx on March 30, 2019, 05:35:05 pm
I’d love us to keep Wilks anyway but hes not a replacement for Marquis.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: NickDRFC on March 30, 2019, 05:38:33 pm
I’d rather cross that bridge when we come to it.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: PDX_Rover on March 30, 2019, 05:40:08 pm
Why would Marquis leave? He’s not guaranteed football at a bigger team and after being on loan for many seasons he found a home here and is one of the hubs of the team. Playing time I imagine would be foremost in his mind.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: boro_rover on March 30, 2019, 05:43:33 pm
I don’t think he will leave at the end of this season. I would imagine his drop of form would have only put suitors off.

That being said he has played a lot of minutes this season so he will naturally be more fatigued and less sharp.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: NickDRFC on March 30, 2019, 06:00:50 pm
Why would Marquis leave? He’s not guaranteed football at a bigger team and after being on loan for many seasons he found a home here and is one of the hubs of the team. Playing time I imagine would be foremost in his mind.

3 potential reasons (in no particular order):

1. The opportunity to test himself in the Championship
2. Money
3. The possibility of moving back down South

Still think there’s little point debating possible replacements when he’s still here but let’s be realistic, there is a chance that he could move on in the summer.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: Bessierover on March 30, 2019, 06:06:07 pm
Marquis wouldn't get anywhere near Leeds first team and why would Leeds swap Wilks for Marquis, when Wilks is a far better prospect
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: glosterred on March 30, 2019, 06:10:01 pm
Marquis as penalty taker does not fill me with confidence, there has got to be someone better in the team at taking pens.


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Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: mattco on March 30, 2019, 06:29:03 pm
He took a good penalty today. Sent the keeper the srong way and stroked it home, What's not to like?
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: sha66y on March 30, 2019, 06:31:48 pm
I love Marquis but I'm of the opinion that he'll be off in the summer regardless of what league we're in. So the question is do we then go and give the money we get for him to Leeds for Wilks?

Why do you think he will be off in the summer?, and where do you think he will go?
Are you implying that we will sell him, ?

Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: Chris Black come back on March 30, 2019, 06:33:48 pm
Wilks would be a great signing - but we would need a ‘new’ Marquis-style player IF he did leave.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: glosterred on March 30, 2019, 06:38:19 pm
He took a good penalty today. Sent the keeper the srong way and stroked it home, What's not to like?

The number of times he’s missed from the spot worries me. He sent the keeper the wrong way this time, but watch closely on the highlights he doesn’t actually hit it well at all


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Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: keith79 on March 30, 2019, 06:47:51 pm
Marquis will be playing championship football next season. With us.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: IDM on March 30, 2019, 07:01:40 pm
He took a good penalty today. Sent the keeper the srong way and stroked it home, What's not to like?

The number of times he’s missed from the spot worries me. He sent the keeper the wrong way this time, but watch closely on the highlights he doesn’t actually hit it well at all


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Keeper guesses right and it’s a crap penalty.. he gets it wrong and it’s a cool finish..

Unlike the Harry Kane style of penalty..
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: NickDRFC on March 30, 2019, 07:04:35 pm
He took a good penalty today. Sent the keeper the srong way and stroked it home, What's not to like?

The number of times he’s missed from the spot worries me. He sent the keeper the wrong way this time, but watch closely on the highlights he doesn’t actually hit it well at all


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Keeper guesses right and it’s a crap penalty.. he gets it wrong and it’s a cool finish..

Unlike the Harry Kane style of penalty..

I will never agree that penalties like that are “a cool finish”. Today it’s just fortunate the keeper goes the wrong way, but he’s missed several before when the keeper has guessed right. If he’s going to be our penalty taker he needs to practice and ultimately take better penalties.

EDIT - I should add that I’m delighted to see him back on the scoresheet today and pleased that he still has the confidence to take penalties. But if he takes his penalties like that he will probably miss 1 in 3 which could cost us at some stage.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: Draytonian III on March 30, 2019, 07:12:59 pm
Marquis and at least one other Rovers player have registered themselves with the dentist in Bawtry this week
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: drfcbenny625 on March 30, 2019, 07:50:58 pm
I love Marquis but I'm of the opinion that he'll be off in the summer regardless of what league we're in. So the question is do we then go and give the money we get for him to Leeds for Wilks?

Why do you think he will be off in the summer?, and where do you think he will go?
Are you implying that we will sell him, ?



I don't know where he will go. Realistically I can't see him signing a new contract with us so I think we will kind of be forced to cash in on him this summer. I'd love to be wrong and see him stay though.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: roversontheup on March 30, 2019, 07:54:09 pm
Marquis and at least one other Rovers player have registered themselves with the dentist in Bawtry this week

Ooh I’ll look out for them next visit!!
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: scawsby steve on March 30, 2019, 07:58:33 pm
Why are people talking as though Marquis has become the main penalty taker? He hasn't, the main penalty taker is Ben Whiteman. John was just stepping up in his absence.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: IDM on March 30, 2019, 08:14:43 pm
I love Marquis but I'm of the opinion that he'll be off in the summer regardless of what league we're in. So the question is do we then go and give the money we get for him to Leeds for Wilks?

Why do you think he will be off in the summer?, and where do you think he will go?
Are you implying that we will sell him, ?



I don't know where he will go. Realistically I can't see him signing a new contract with us so I think we will kind of be forced to cash in on him this summer. I'd love to be wrong and see him stay though.

Why would we be forced to cash in.?

We may choose to cash in, but I don’t think our club is in such dire circumstances as to have to sell.?
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: since-1969 on March 30, 2019, 08:15:41 pm
I love Marquis but I'm of the opinion that he'll be off in the summer regardless of what league we're in. So the question is do we then go and give the money we get for him to Leeds for Wilks?
Money 💰 Luka , Spondulix , Lera , and More than he gets  here !! THE Only reason !
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on March 30, 2019, 08:28:02 pm
I love Marquis but I'm of the opinion that he'll be off in the summer regardless of what league we're in. So the question is do we then go and give the money we get for him to Leeds for Wilks?

Why do you think he will be off in the summer?, and where do you think he will go?
Are you implying that we will sell him, ?



I don't know where he will go. Realistically I can't see him signing a new contract with us so I think we will kind of be forced to cash in on him this summer. I'd love to be wrong and see him stay though.

Why would we be forced to cash in.?

We may choose to cash in, but I don’t think our club is in such dire circumstances as to have to sell.?

I think his point was that if he doesn't fancy a new contract, we may have to look at selling him to get a fee, rather than losing him for nothing the following summer.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: northern soul on March 30, 2019, 08:35:42 pm
Why are people talking as though Marquis has become the main penalty taker? He hasn't, the main penalty taker is Ben Whiteman. John was just stepping up in his absence.

Didn't sadlier score a boat load of penalties last season?
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: drfchound on March 30, 2019, 08:43:00 pm
Just because he “just rolled the ball into the net” doesn’t mean it was a bad pen.
He might have done what lots of players do these days, that is wait for the last split second, wait for the keeper to move one way then roll the ball into the opposite side of the goal.
A bit like Stock did in the Southend play off semi final.
Because it was in front of the away end it is hard to tell.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: IDM on March 30, 2019, 09:03:47 pm
Marquis needed a goal, and whatever we say about the penalty, he scored and I was delighted for him..
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: drfcbenny625 on March 30, 2019, 10:22:05 pm
I love Marquis but I'm of the opinion that he'll be off in the summer regardless of what league we're in. So the question is do we then go and give the money we get for him to Leeds for Wilks?

Why do you think he will be off in the summer?, and where do you think he will go?
Are you implying that we will sell him, ?



I don't know where he will go. Realistically I can't see him signing a new contract with us so I think we will kind of be forced to cash in on him this summer. I'd love to be wrong and see him stay though.

Why would we be forced to cash in.?

We may choose to cash in, but I don’t think our club is in such dire circumstances as to have to sell.?

I think his point was that if he doesn't fancy a new contract, we may have to look at selling him to get a fee, rather than losing him for nothing the following summer.

 :that:
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: phil old leake on March 30, 2019, 11:59:33 pm
Marquis will leave if he can get more money elsewhere and potentially play at a higher level or for a "bigger club"
He's proved his commitment to our cause so I'd personally wish him well

I just hope if he does go it's done early so we can get a suitable replacement    It would be awful if it was done late and we were left behind
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: godlike1 on March 31, 2019, 04:00:46 am
Marquis will leave if he can get more money elsewhere and potentially play at a higher level or for a "bigger club"
He's proved his commitment to our cause so I'd personally wish him well

I just hope if he does go it's done early so we can get a suitable replacement    It would be awful if it was done late and we were left behind

I got a sense from his. Comments after the Jan transfer window was kind of "yes I like and respect the club and had no intention of going anywhere no matter the offer. If in the summer it suits though and rovers don't go up then yes I will be listening to offers and go if the right one comes ideally in the championship. Mccann essentially said if that happens and works for all then he's likely to go if we don't go up.

Like others, although we don't have to I think BW will be high on champ radars if we don't go up as well.

We can't complain though as the owners have openly said this is how they want the club to run to a degree.

I guess if mccann said I've got a replacement then they'll sell.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: IDM on March 31, 2019, 09:20:23 am
I love Marquis but I'm of the opinion that he'll be off in the summer regardless of what league we're in. So the question is do we then go and give the money we get for him to Leeds for Wilks?

Why do you think he will be off in the summer?, and where do you think he will go?
Are you implying that we will sell him, ?



I don't know where he will go. Realistically I can't see him signing a new contract with us so I think we will kind of be forced to cash in on him this summer. I'd love to be wrong and see him stay though.

Why would we be forced to cash in.?

We may choose to cash in, but I don’t think our club is in such dire circumstances as to have to sell.?

I think his point was that if he doesn't fancy a new contract, we may have to look at selling him to get a fee, rather than losing him for nothing the following summer.

I know what you mean, but that would depend on whether the club thinks it is better to do that, and replace him, or have his services for the next season.
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: Paul Simpson on March 31, 2019, 06:32:42 pm
Whatever happens in the summer, I think marquis has been superb for our club. We wouldn’t be here in league 1 and potential playoffs without him. Thanks John and good luck to him wherever his destiny leads him 👍⚽️😀
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: since-1969 on March 31, 2019, 07:25:43 pm
Whatever happens in the summer, I think marquis has been superb for our club. We wouldn’t be here in league 1 and potential playoffs without him. Thanks John and good luck to him wherever his destiny leads him 👍⚽️😀
He’s NOT going anywhere. What team other than ours  could employ a striker who misses  more than he scores but scores hatfuls  of goals , gets booked just for being petulant to refs and talks to himself throughout every game , will go countless games without scoring and still be the first name on the team sheet !
It’s you John John !!
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: Paul Simpson on March 31, 2019, 08:03:51 pm
Very true 1969 ! It’s an interesting perspective on marquis. He can keep on missing chances and playing awkward as long as it’s in a Drfc shirt 👍😀⚽️⚽️
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: RoversAlias on March 31, 2019, 10:38:42 pm
Whatever happens in the summer, I think marquis has been superb for our club. We wouldn’t be here in league 1 and potential playoffs without him. Thanks John and good luck to him wherever his destiny leads him 👍⚽️😀
He’s NOT going anywhere. What team other than ours  could employ a striker who misses  more than he scores but scores hatfuls  of goals , gets booked just for being petulant to refs and talks to himself throughout every game , will go countless games without scoring and still be the first name on the team sheet !
It’s you John John !!

This is so, so boring now. Why do you have to say the same tired crap about Marquis every time there's half a chance to?
Title: Re: Wilks for Marquis
Post by: IDM on March 31, 2019, 10:50:11 pm
Every striker misses more than they score, otherwise they would get a hat trick almost every game.