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Title: Yet another
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on March 31, 2019, 12:30:41 pm
Shocking miss by the officials yesterday for Walsall's goal. The lad who was stood on top of Marosi, and challenged him when he palmed away the first shot was a yard offside when that shot came in.

Didn't cost us yesterday, but we've been on the wrong end of a string of similar decisions lately. If the officials had called the two against Charlton and Blackpool correctly, we'd be just about over the line now.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: donnievic on March 31, 2019, 02:54:15 pm
From the corner it came off a rovers player (downing)I think
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: Donnywolf on March 31, 2019, 02:55:54 pm
Lot of people saying the trip on Wilks was outside Box ?

Couldnt tell from Royal Box and when replayed I get essentially the same view
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: donnievic on March 31, 2019, 02:57:11 pm
Can’t believe the number of fans moaning about theirs corners aswell about the ball not touching or being inside the D
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: IDM on March 31, 2019, 02:58:17 pm
Only has to overlap the edge of the line when looked at from above..
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: IDM on March 31, 2019, 02:59:37 pm
Lot of people saying the trip on Wilks was outside Box ?

Couldnt tell from Royal Box and when replayed I get essentially the same view

I think it was one of those when the attempted tackle starts with both players outside, but finishes within the box..
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: donnievic on March 31, 2019, 03:20:19 pm
Only has to overlap the edge of the line when looked at from above..
exactly there are loads that don’t know the laws of the game
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on March 31, 2019, 05:08:20 pm
From the corner it came off a rovers player (downing)I think

Withdrawn in that case.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: IDM on March 31, 2019, 05:16:55 pm
Marosi was still obstructed..
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: Robbo on March 31, 2019, 06:43:25 pm
They put a player either side of him at most corners to obstruct- and they did.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: rich1471 on March 31, 2019, 10:11:05 pm
We had the rub of green yesterday the trip on wilks looked outside the box and blairs handball when held his face I in the first half should have been a penalty , but wilks was pulled back in the box in the second half the ref missed that as well.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: drfchound on March 31, 2019, 10:17:18 pm
We had the rub of green yesterday the trip on wilks looked outside the box and blairs handball when held his face I in the first half should have been a penalty , but wilks was pulled back in the box in the second half the ref missed that as well.





If you mean the header that our player blocked on the line, it was Danny Andrew and it did hit him in the face.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: IDM on March 31, 2019, 10:26:43 pm
Don’t think we had the rub of the green, the ref was shit for both teams..
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: dknward2 on March 31, 2019, 10:28:50 pm
Only has to overlap the edge of the line when looked at from above..
exactly there are loads that don’t know the laws of the game

The problem was sometimes it was over the line once on the north west corner it was a good few inches out of the D.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: donnievic on March 31, 2019, 10:46:14 pm
Only has to overlap the edge of the line when looked at from above..
exactly there are loads that don’t know the laws of the game

The problem was sometimes it was over the line once on the north west corner it was a good few inches out of the D.
where do you sit to have good eye sight to see it was good few inches outside the d
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: dknward2 on March 31, 2019, 10:54:32 pm
It was that obvious it was out I guessed at the few inches may have only been a cm but it was out.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: donnievic on March 31, 2019, 11:00:03 pm
How can you tell from where you sit ????has been said before it doesn’t need to be touching the line
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: dknward2 on April 01, 2019, 01:09:21 am
I am aware that it doesn't need to be touching the base of the ball was nowhere near the white paint the ball needed to be 16 inches wide
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: dknward2 on April 01, 2019, 01:23:22 am
52.14 on I follow clear as day

If I find more I'll add them
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: Donnywolf on April 01, 2019, 07:20:12 am
The solution would be a 1 Metre square rather than semi circle and the ball has to be totally in the square.

Given how players like to gain an advantage / wind people up  I suppose they would then put the ball almost totally in the square but then let it encroach on the line it is supposed to be behind



Agree Danny Andrew took one in the face too. The dullard of a Ref had the correct idea as well looking if there was any blood. Amazing given some of his other failings
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: Robbo on April 01, 2019, 07:21:28 am
In my opinion it was well out of the corner quadrant by relatively some distance. Many in the west stand corner had the same opinion. It is not the fact that the ball was not where it should have been but that something as blatantly obvious was ignored by the poor officials. Challenging someone’s vantage/seating position to make your point is a bit desperate. So unless you are blessed with the gift of flight you have to use your eyes and life’s acquired judgement- the ball was not in the quadrant. Perhaps there are more important issues to debate.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: Donnywolf on April 01, 2019, 10:43:44 am
....and have you noticed this "cheating" usually happens in the South East and North West Corners because that is where the Lino is'nt ?

Childish behaviour by the Players maybe just to make the Home fans "bay" for the Ref to look AND as I have said before totally ridiculous because what would gaining even an inch do ?
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: RobTheRover on April 01, 2019, 12:28:28 pm
I called their goal as offside at the time on Saturday.  Surprised none of the Rovers players appealed.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: donnievic on April 01, 2019, 02:44:57 pm
That’s because it wasn’t offside but think one maybe butler sort of thought about appealing for it
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: VivaRovers on April 01, 2019, 02:46:40 pm
I must be in a minority who thought the officials were perfectly fine on Saturday. The ref perhaps could've booked one of the Walsall defenders earlier for obstruction/foul on Wilks, but as he'd not issued a card all game until injury time I've no great qualms with that.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: i_ateallthepies on April 01, 2019, 05:28:15 pm
Agreed, Glen.  I thought the ref was a great improvement on what we usually get.  A few decisions I didn't agree with but there are plenty of marginal decisions called for every game.  They won't ever go all in our favour.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: roversdude on April 01, 2019, 06:12:05 pm
Plus one I thought the ref had a decent game
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: IDM on April 01, 2019, 06:43:23 pm
Have to disagree.. thought he was picky and poor for both sides.
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: ravenrover on April 01, 2019, 07:15:41 pm
Very sparing with the yellow card
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: POD on April 01, 2019, 07:46:23 pm
How can you tell from where you sit ????has been said before it doesn’t need to be touching the line
Its the same principle as used by the goal line technology ‘hawkeye’.  The whole of the ball needs to be over the whole of the line to be classed as a goal.  If it’s just a millimetre overhanging the line it’s not a goal and the same goes for the corner quadrant.  The referee isn’t going to go over and inspect the quadrant every time there is a corner despite what the crowd think!  He has to use his judgement on what is not really an important issue and get on with the game, just as he allows some margin with throw ins and free kicks not taken from the exact spot. 
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: Donnywolf on April 01, 2019, 08:13:33 pm
Yeah that and its why I said the Players mainly do it in SE and NW Corners of Keepmoat as the Lino cant see from opposite side and Ref has better things to do watching the wrestling match that used to be called a Corner Kick

I just cant get WHY they want to steal half an inch though
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: donnievic on April 01, 2019, 08:16:16 pm
Because it will be about getting away with wot ever they can and also winding the fans up,see crowd doesn’t Moab when the rovers players do it
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: Donnywolf on April 01, 2019, 09:51:36 pm
Laugh my head off if VAR cops one of them after a Goal - and grasses to Ref to disallow it
Title: Re: Yet another
Post by: Bristol Red Rover on April 01, 2019, 11:53:41 pm
A solution might be for the lino to not interfere with placement, and if they judge it to be out of the quadrant then to message the ref who blows and a goal kick is awarded. On the other side a camera can be aimed at the quadrant and observed by the VAR official who can notify the ref in the same way.

If only the lino's knew the rules - they don't apply the rule for ball going out over the touchline. Likewise, the whole ball has to be over the line as viewed from above but they always judge it on where the base of the ball is.