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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: BillyStubbsTears on April 06, 2019, 06:48:18 pm
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...who cares at this time of the season?
Next.
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Results are more important than good performances.
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Results are more important than good performances.
No good as a general philosophy but I'll take it now.
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Results are more important than good performances.
No good as a general philosophy but I'll take it now.
That is what I was intending it to be read as, as you know.
Out of interest though, would you rather us play well all season and finish mid table or alternatively,
not play well very often but grind out enough points to finish in the top six?
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And as I said on another thread Tom Anderson was imence today and Miles the mom
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Our ball retention is shocking, another team would have battered us.
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Our ball retention is shocking, another team would have battered us.
Good job we didn’t play another team then.
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Our ball retention is shocking, another team would have battered us.
whiteman will be back shortly, that will sort that issue out..
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And as I said on another thread Tom Anderson was imence today and Miles the mom
Tom back in, BW and HK knocking on the door. The nucleus of our strongest side is starting to edge back together again, just at the right time of the season.
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Could be worse, we could be Bradford fans. I couldn’t cope having to watch that shite every week.
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I'd have Doyle over Marquis all day long, and Butterfield is still quality
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Strange they're going down and we're in the top 6 then.
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Bradford tried to do what Wimbledon did. Intimidate and try and get Marquis sent off to nullify that threat. Doyle and Collins were absolute w**kers all game. A team clearly in crisis. The good thing was we got through it I think with no injuries (apart from Sadlier??) and we won. Bradford deserve to go down.
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I'd have Doyle over Marquis all day long, and Butterfield is still quality
Judging by what you post I imagine you’d rather have the skeleton of Arthur Conan Doyle over Marquis.
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Half time today, I heard someone say, "2 million for Marquis? If a club offered us two hundred quid, I'd drive him myself".
This, about the best goalscorer we've had in the lower divisions since the 1960s. You do wonder what some folk expect.
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I'd have Doyle over Marquis all day long, and Butterfield is still quality
Don’t be daft
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Half time today, I heard someone say, "2 million for Marquis? If a club offered us two hundred quid, I'd drive him myself".
This, about the best goalscorer we've had in the lower divisions since the 1960s. You do wonder what some folk expect.
I think some people just like being contrary. That or they’re a few bricks short.
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I'd have Doyle over Marquis all day long, and Butterfield is still quality
Are you a WUM, or are you on medication?
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Must be a WUM to talk shite like that about Johnny.
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JM whether he is scoring or. Not does so much for the team, no one else comes close to what he brings..
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It must be strong beer in Armthorpe tonight, hey Darren ?
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I'd have Doyle over Marquis all day long, and Butterfield is still quality
How many goals has Doyle got.
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Must be a WUM to talk shite like that about Johnny.
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Must be a WUM to talk shite like that about Johnny.
That is one hell of an echo mate.
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I'd have Doyle over Marquis all day long, and Butterfield is still quality
😂😂😂😂🤭
Esdaille is the gift that keeps on giving
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I'd have Doyle over Marquis all day long, and Butterfield is still quality
You have absolutely got to be joking?!
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It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....
Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....
I am just pleased that we are grinding out results, irrespective of who scores....
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Not a great game but a good netter to Dearne Valley Rover before and after the game. A quick netter to the vicar at half time as well.
Not a great game but 3 points in an important game.
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Not a great game but a good netter to Dearne Valley Rover before and after the game. A quick netter to the vicar at half time as well.
Not a great game but 3 points in an important game.
“Netter”?
Idler, are you also auditioning as the policeman in the remake of Allo Allo.
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It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....
Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....
I am just pleased that we are grinding out results, irrespective of who scores....
He’s the third leading goalscorer in the division, he’s in the team of the year, he’s on a shortlist of 3 for player of the year for the whole league, he’s on course for being our best ever striker.
Yet someone has suggested they would rather have a striker plying his trade for the worst side in the division.
Of course that opinion is going to get shot down, it’s ridiculous
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Of cuss not hound.
It's the West Yorkshire accent that I've acquired over the last 40 years.😉
I did have a few pre-match pints followed by a couple of after match pints as it was a home game for me. I think that affected my spelling last night.😳🍻
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It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....
Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....
I am just pleased that we are grinding out results, irrespective of who scores....
Interesting post, about 6 weeks ago I was lambasted after witnessing Marquis miss yet another sitter and posting the question “if he was actually a top striker, or a striker playing in a team that created so many chances, that on the law of averages, he was bound to score plenty of goals”
It’s interesting to see now when the team are not creating so many chances, how poor Marquis recent goal per game record is.
Yes he runs the line etc etc but I don’t think he’s as good as many on here think he is, simply not clinical enough.
I like many have been perplexed recently when Wilkes has been running teams ragged, Marquis has been tripping over the ball and not looking like he will score and yet the player subbed is always Wilkes ( Bristol, Walsall)
Let’s hope he gets his head together and helps us secure the play off place.
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I would imagine McCann has similar thoughts . I do think next season will see a more competitive front line and an emphasis on a target striker along side pace . Marquis is fascinating to watch and his game is does fluctuate from brilliant to “get him off” but he’d be sorely missed if he left .
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These last two post are a fair analysis. He is clearly a very good player certainly at League One level.
Equally though he has scored one in ten and that was a penalty, and got sent off in that run of games. He has become increasingly ineffective as season has progressed and this is probably a result of how working himself very hard, teams finding him out, lack of direct replacement and subconsciously him knowing his place at centre of that three is locked down whatever.
We certainly need to retain him but in doing so find a way to have him supported or challenged more for that central striking position.
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It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....
Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....
I am just pleased that we are grinding out results, irrespective of who scores....
Interesting post, about 6 weeks ago I was lambasted after witnessing Marquis miss yet another sitter and posting the question “if he was actually a top striker, or a striker playing in a team that created so many chances, that on the law of averages, he was bound to score plenty of goals”
It’s interesting to see now when the team are not creating so many chances, how poor Marquis recent goal per game record is.
Yes he runs the line etc etc but I don’t think he’s as good as many on here think he is, simply not clinical enough.
I like many have been perplexed recently when Wilkes has been running teams ragged, Marquis has been tripping over the ball and not looking like he will score and yet the player subbed is always Wilkes ( Bristol, Walsall)
Let’s hope he gets his head together and helps us secure the play off place.
Exactly!
These are my concerns too....
I hope the fact that Wilkes is the substitutionary fall guy doesn’t affect any plans he may have for a future at Donny
I will always champion Marquis to be our main striker, but when it’s not happening for him,
I wouldn’t think to replace the assistant who is in form!
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It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....
Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....
I am just pleased that we are grinding out results, irrespective of who scores....
He’s the third leading goalscorer in the division, he’s in the team of the year, he’s on a shortlist of 3 for player of the year for the whole league, he’s on course for being our best ever striker.
Yet someone has suggested they would rather have a striker plying his trade for the worst side in the division.
Of course that opinion is going to get shot down, it’s ridiculous
I’m afraid you may be wheeling out them same stats until the end of the season,
however...they are “old stats” from a time when Marquis was scoring regularly , from a time when we created many many chances,
and yes they did propel him into an enviable position, ...however things change!
Stats become diluted and look less impressive when placed into a different context,
We need John to be scoring NOW whilst we are playing the teams struggling, we need John to be driving us into the Play offs with goals and commanding performances, so we can say we did it by being the 6th best team in the division, with the best striker in the division...
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It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....
Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....
I am just pleased that we are grinding out results, irrespective of who scores....
Interesting post, about 6 weeks ago I was lambasted after witnessing Marquis miss yet another sitter and posting the question “if he was actually a top striker, or a striker playing in a team that created so many chances, that on the law of averages, he was bound to score plenty of goals”
It’s interesting to see now when the team are not creating so many chances, how poor Marquis recent goal per game record is.
Yes he runs the line etc etc but I don’t think he’s as good as many on here think he is, simply not clinical enough.
I like many have been perplexed recently when Wilkes has been running teams ragged, Marquis has been tripping over the ball and not looking like he will score and yet the player subbed is always Wilkes ( Bristol, Walsall)
Let’s hope he gets his head together and helps us secure the play off place.
The difference is, you have reasons for your opinion of Marquis, which is completely fair even if people disagree..
Esdaille gave no reason, just a blamket unjustified statement, so of course people will react..
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It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....
Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....
I am just pleased that we are grinding out results, irrespective of who scores....
He’s the third leading goalscorer in the division, he’s in the team of the year, he’s on a shortlist of 3 for player of the year for the whole league, he’s on course for being our best ever striker.
Yet someone has suggested they would rather have a striker plying his trade for the worst side in the division.
Of course that opinion is going to get shot down, it’s ridiculous
I’m afraid you may be wheeling out them same stats until the end of the season,
however...they are “old stats” from a time when Marquis was scoring regularly , from a time when we created many many chances,
and yes they did propel him into an enviable position, ...however things change!
Stats become diluted and look less impressive when placed into a different context,
We need John to be scoring NOW whilst we are playing the teams struggling, we need John to be driving us into the Play offs with goals and commanding performances, so we can say we did it by being the 6th best team in the division, with the best striker in the division...
They arent old stats, he’s the third leading goalscorer in the division, he’s in the team of the year, he’s shortlisted for the best player in the league.
These are all current facts.
Nothing to do with what’s happened in the past
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It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....
Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....
I am just pleased that we are grinding out results, irrespective of who scores....
Interesting post, about 6 weeks ago I was lambasted after witnessing Marquis miss yet another sitter and posting the question “if he was actually a top striker, or a striker playing in a team that created so many chances, that on the law of averages, he was bound to score plenty of goals”
It’s interesting to see now when the team are not creating so many chances, how poor Marquis recent goal per game record is.
Yes he runs the line etc etc but I don’t think he’s as good as many on here think he is, simply not clinical enough.
I like many have been perplexed recently when Wilkes has been running teams ragged, Marquis has been tripping over the ball and not looking like he will score and yet the player subbed is always Wilkes ( Bristol, Walsall)
Let’s hope he gets his head together and helps us secure the play off place.
You only make a contribution to this forum to be negative about marquis. And you only ever appear on here when he’s having a loss of form or had a bad game.
Nowhere to be seen when he’s scoring every week
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It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....
Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....
I am just pleased that we are grinding out results, irrespective of who scores....
Interesting post, about 6 weeks ago I was lambasted after witnessing Marquis miss yet another sitter and posting the question “if he was actually a top striker, or a striker playing in a team that created so many chances, that on the law of averages, he was bound to score plenty of goals”
It’s interesting to see now when the team are not creating so many chances, how poor Marquis recent goal per game record is.
Yes he runs the line etc etc but I don’t think he’s as good as many on here think he is, simply not clinical enough.
I like many have been perplexed recently when Wilkes has been running teams ragged, Marquis has been tripping over the ball and not looking like he will score and yet the player subbed is always Wilkes ( Bristol, Walsall)
Let’s hope he gets his head together and helps us secure the play off place.
I think thewilks subbing is more down to stop him being constantly fouled, protect him from any yellows if he retaliated, plus to give him individual crowd praise when coming off... brilliant man management by GM
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Interesting stat
The last time we won 4 games in a row the 4th game was against Plymouth
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Dickos 1
I’ve not posted on here for 6 weeks, don’t recall Marquis banging goals in for fun during that time , so the comment about not seeing me post when Marquis is doing well isn’t quite right is it 🤭🤭🤭, I’ve just not posted full stop
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Your only posts are slagging marquis off
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It wasn't Esdaille's criticism of Marquis that was unjustified, it was his statement that Doyle is better. There's no evidence to support this at all. Apart from a few goals at Oldham, Doyle has hardly scored any since he left Chesterfield years ago.
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It appears that anyone who offers an opinion about Marquis in the negative is either feeble minded or just plain stupid....
Perhaps it’s just an opinion that differs from the norm,
perhaps the author of such an opinion is flabbergasted by the continuous protectionism of an asset that appears to have become unproductive, yet was once very productive ....
I am just pleased that we are grinding out results, irrespective of who scores....
He’s the third leading goalscorer in the division, he’s in the team of the year, he’s on a shortlist of 3 for player of the year for the whole league, he’s on course for being our best ever striker.
Yet someone has suggested they would rather have a striker plying his trade for the worst side in the division.
Of course that opinion is going to get shot down, it’s ridiculous
I’m eternally grateful to you Dickos for having the time and energy to post that.
I absolutely agree but couldn’t be bothered to post.
Marquis is worth ten of Doyle.