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Title: Next Saturday could be
Post by: deebee on April 07, 2019, 04:16:43 pm
A defining moment of the season, with the following games being played.
Charlton v Luton
Blackpool v Peterborough
Sunderland v Coventry
If we beat Plymouth could be job done early.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: adamtherover on April 07, 2019, 04:34:23 pm
A defining moment of the season, with the following games being played.
Charlton v Luton
Blackpool v Peterborough
Sunderland v Coventry
If we beat Plymouth could be job done early.

sadly nothing can be sorted next week, potentially 8 points clear with 4 or 5 games still to play for posh? 
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Campsall rover on April 07, 2019, 04:37:59 pm
A defining moment of the season, with the following games being played.
Charlton v Luton
Blackpool v Peterborough
Sunderland v Coventry
If we beat Plymouth could be job done early.
Nothing will be decided next Saturday. If we win then we can treat the Sunderland game as a bonus game in the sense that we can go there without pressure to get a result, almost a bonus game.
We need 6 more points imo but you never can tell.
It will take something for Peterborough to get more than 11 points with their fixtures.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Campsall rover on April 07, 2019, 04:47:44 pm
When is Sunderland's game at Peterborough?

If they're already top two confirmed by then, it might theoretically help Peterborough.
Easter Monday
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Campsall rover on April 07, 2019, 04:52:36 pm
I am just hoping we can seal the deal before we play Coventry in the final game. Don’t think i can take another final day drama.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Woodhead Passer on April 07, 2019, 05:01:27 pm
FT Coventry 0-0 Bristol Rovers.

8 points clear of Coventry and Blackpool. 15 points to play for.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Campsall rover on April 07, 2019, 05:04:08 pm
Coventry just drawn today.
Surely Blackpool and Coventry are all but out of it now as they would need to win all 5 left to get 73 points.
It’s US or POSH almost definite. My money’s on us as GM is our manager and they have DF  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 07, 2019, 05:37:35 pm
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Nothing will be decided next Saturday.

If we win and take our goal difference into account, it could well be decided. I just hope both Whiteman and Kane are back in the midfield.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: RedJ on April 07, 2019, 05:39:47 pm
Maybe not mathematically done and dusted but it could certainly knock a couple out of the running psychologically.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Campsall rover on April 07, 2019, 05:40:51 pm
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Nothing will be decided next Saturday.

If we win and take our goal difference into account, it could well be decided. I just hope both Whiteman and Kane are back in the midfield.
How can it be decided next week Alan?
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: adamtherover on April 07, 2019, 05:42:34 pm
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Nothing will be decided next Saturday.

If we win and take our goal difference into account, it could well be decided. I just hope both Whiteman and Kane are back in the midfield.
sorry mate but potentially 8 pts clear with posh having 5 games to go is anything but decided.....
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on April 07, 2019, 06:17:43 pm
When is Sunderland's game at Peterborough?

If they're already top two confirmed by then, it might theoretically help Peterborough.
Easter Monday

Should still be a very competitive game by that point as I doubt anything will be sealed.

Thought it was their game in hand for some reason - it just shows how much notice I take of the fixture list!

Rigo you were sort of half right when portsmouth played Sundayland at Wembley both Burton & Peterborough didn't play

you just picked the wrong team for their game in hand & I trusted you  :suicide:

yes it was a game in hand against one of the teams playing at Wembley.!!!

I think Burton deserve a mention again  since they beat Barnsley 3-1 yesterday   -
think we should all want Sunderland to beat Burton on Wednesday Burton haven't hurdles in front of them in their matches -- more like Grand National FENCES - and they jumped the Barnsley Fence quite easily.

BST isn’t ruling anything out either, he’s purely talking about the likeliest possible outcome.

oh yes he is i posted this before last saturdays matches when Luton beat Rovers and Burton came from 0-2 to beat Accrington 5-2 . Burton F.C. hadn't the word "five" in their vocabularily til after the match (excluding the Man city match)
I was feeling pretty stupid when the score was 0-2 !!!

this is what i posted

"as i have consistently posted I am not all that worried about Luton -- for reasons stated as for coventry a threat there is one team we all underestimate Burton
i simple terms coventry won at peterbrew   then Burton won at Coventry was it last saturday -- i would be more afraid of them as play off contenders -- yes they do bore you to death  but they need to be considered remember they made the last 4 of the league cup or whatever it is called ."

on paper if Burton win their game in hand they are only one point behind the Coventry & Blackpool   so they are on the up as the results show - (and i expect Accrington to get relegated after losing 5-2 from 0-2 they are in freefall and moaning on the way down )

the only trouble is i did not know who Burton had to play nice easy run in

Barnsley home- Sunderland away - Scunthorpe away - Portsmouth home --southend away -- Luton home -- Peterborough away

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/burton-albion/scores-fixtures/2019-04

if they can win all those they deserve to go up  ...  shame they don't get a full house by playing Charlton :suicide:
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: donnievic on April 07, 2019, 06:24:49 pm
When is Sunderland's game at Peterborough?

If they're already top two confirmed by then, it might theoretically help Peterborough.
peterboro game in hand is Portsmouth
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: drfc1951 on April 07, 2019, 06:45:16 pm
Coventry drew 0-0 with Bristol Rovers today
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: the vicar on April 07, 2019, 07:16:12 pm
A defining moment of the season, with the following games being played.
Charlton v Luton
Blackpool v Peterborough
Sunderland v Coventry
If we beat Plymouth could be job done early.
Nothing will be decided next Saturday. If we win then we can treat the Sunderland game as a bonus game in the sense that we can go there without pressure to get a result, almost a bonus game.
We need 6 more points imo but you never can tell.
It will take something for Peterborough to get more than 11 points with their fixtures.
Peterbroughs game in hand is Sunderland int it
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 07, 2019, 07:18:16 pm
Two wins I reckon will be enough. Just don't think Peterborough are that good.  Just my thought though, we will see how it ends.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: drfchound on April 07, 2019, 07:33:02 pm
A defining moment of the season, with the following games being played.
Charlton v Luton
Blackpool v Peterborough
Sunderland v Coventry
If we beat Plymouth could be job done early.
Nothing will be decided next Saturday. If we win then we can treat the Sunderland game as a bonus game in the sense that we can go there without pressure to get a result, almost a bonus game.
We need 6 more points imo but you never can tell.
It will take something for Peterborough to get more than 11 points with their fixtures.
Peterbroughs game in hand is Sunderland int it







Portsmouth......away.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: rich1471 on April 07, 2019, 10:10:54 pm
Sunderland could still be in with a chance to win the title when they Peterborough , at the minute they are 8 points behind Luton with 2 games in hand
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on April 07, 2019, 10:23:11 pm
Two wins I reckon will be enough. Just don't think Peterborough are that good.  Just my thought though, we will see how it ends.

A win and a draw will be enough. But I expect us to get 7-8 points and secure third place by 3-5 points.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: dickos1 on April 07, 2019, 10:58:13 pm
3rd place
Bit optimistic that mate
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Alan Southstand on April 07, 2019, 11:28:13 pm
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Quote from: Alan Southstand on Today at 05:37:35 PM
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Nothing will be decided next Saturday.

If we win and take our goal difference into account, it could well be decided. I just hope both Whiteman and Kane are back in the midfield.
How can it be decided next week Alan?

OK, let me come at it from another angle - who do you think will get more than 69pts?
I fully appreciate it's not over until its mathematically not possible, but, come on, why spoil the fun? Anyway, we havn't won our game yet, which is why I said if we win on Saturday....

 ;)
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Wiltshire Exile on April 07, 2019, 11:31:30 pm
Two wins I reckon will be enough. Just don't think Peterborough are that good.  Just my thought though, we will see how it ends.

A win and a draw will be enough. But I expect us to get 7-8 points and secure third place by 3-5 points.

Surely you mean 5th place, Billy?
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: IDM on April 08, 2019, 01:04:58 pm
Ok let’s look at next Saturday..

Lots of “ifs” of course, but:

If Blackpool don’t beat Peterborough they can only reach 71 points (70 if they lose).

Coventry the same vs Sunderland.

If Burton don’t beat Sunderland midweek, they can only get to 72/71, same for Fleetwood playing Barnsley on Saturday.

Realistically, barring several big scores, with our goal difference teams need to get to 73 points to beat us - assuming of course we can get 6 more..

Two wins may therefore be enough to put those 4 clubs out of the equation, and would leave Peterborough needing to win 4 out of 6 with opponents to come including Blackpool, Fleetwood, Sunderland and Portsmouth..

Then there are more complications with Fleetwood playing Blackpool over Easter for example.

Yes, we need to win games, but should we beat Plymouth then by 5pm on Saturday the competition for 6th place could be down to us and Posh.

That is a lot of conjecture but not impossible.

And to keep things simple, we help ourselves big style by winning.!
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: since-1969 on April 08, 2019, 01:28:04 pm
It is looking better for us now we’ve got back to winning ways. It’s still in our hands and other teams seem to have difficulty in getting back to back wins . Keeping good form as well as getting quality players back from injury bodes well for a good playoff and possible final .
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Campsall rover on April 08, 2019, 01:47:19 pm
Rigo it would take an amazing set of results for Oxford to get relegated. They are but for the maths now safe.
So many teams below them and they have a substantial cushion in points.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: deebee on April 08, 2019, 06:32:08 pm
Oxford have to avoid their winding-up order in May.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on April 09, 2019, 08:12:54 pm
my bank manager is very unhappy with the score "Sunderland 0 Burton 1"  at the moment
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: drfchound on April 09, 2019, 08:16:30 pm
Sunderland equalise.
We don’t really want Burton to win this one do we.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on April 09, 2019, 08:17:03 pm
my bank manager is very unhappy with the score "Sunderland 0 Burton 1"  at the moment
1-1 is a lot better
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: dknward2 on April 09, 2019, 08:24:36 pm
Best result would be a draw keeps Burton away from play offs and keeps Sunderland and Barnsley close to each other
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: dknward2 on April 09, 2019, 08:27:54 pm
Charlton winning again 10 points clear of us now
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: drfchound on April 09, 2019, 08:40:58 pm
I think Barnsley will finish fourth.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: drfchound on April 09, 2019, 09:45:01 pm
Sunderland finish 1-1 then.
Only one team, Stoke, have drawn more games than them this season.
I reckon we will get a point there next week too.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on April 09, 2019, 10:22:41 pm
strangely i thought Accrington had got a golden point against AFC Wimbledon by not losing -they seemed to have an easy match against locals Rochdale and fcked it up real from a Rovers point of view --as rigo says  ironically we could have last seasons 4th divisions champions relegated and the second team promoted
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: IDM on April 10, 2019, 12:23:19 pm
Ok let’s look at next Saturday..

Lots of “ifs” of course, but:

If Blackpool don’t beat Peterborough they can only reach 71 points (70 if they lose).

Coventry the same vs Sunderland.

If Burton don’t beat Sunderland midweek, they can only get to 72/71, same for Fleetwood playing Barnsley on Saturday.

Realistically, barring several big scores, with our goal difference teams need to get to 73 points to beat us - assuming of course we can get 6 more..

Two wins may therefore be enough to put those 4 clubs out of the equation, and would leave Peterborough needing to win 4 out of 6 with opponents to come including Blackpool, Fleetwood, Sunderland and Portsmouth..

Then there are more complications with Fleetwood playing Blackpool over Easter for example.

Yes, we need to win games, but should we beat Plymouth then by 5pm on Saturday the competition for 6th place could be down to us and Posh.

That is a lot of conjecture but not impossible.

And to keep things simple, we help ourselves big style by winning.!

That’s one of the “ifs” come to fruition, Burton can now only get 72 points maximum..
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: IDM on April 10, 2019, 12:46:34 pm
If we can get 6 more points, then realistically it is only going to be Posh challenging us.

Let’s see what the equation is after Saturday’s fixtures..
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: adamtherover on April 10, 2019, 12:46:59 pm
a better and more realistic way is to extrapalate the pts won so far over a 46 game period,  posh would get 70.15 pts,   lets call it 71!,  so if they continue to average a 40 game period of gaining points, that is their tally, more than likely they will be there or ther abouts.   So 2 more wins for us, plus better goals, "should" be enough...
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: RedJ on April 10, 2019, 12:51:17 pm
I do think only Posh will catch us now if anyone.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: RoversAlias on April 10, 2019, 12:56:49 pm
We have to lose 3 of our last 5 games to be caught by anyone below Peterborough now, and that shouldn't happen. It's time to class this as a two-horse race.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: IDM on April 10, 2019, 12:59:09 pm
It might be, after Saturday.. let’s wait until then..
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: NickDRFC on April 10, 2019, 01:06:25 pm
We have to lose 3 of our last 5 games to be caught by anyone below Peterborough now, and that shouldn't happen. It's time to class this as a two-horse race.

Although let’s not forget that it’s not yet 2 years since we came 3rd in a one horse race.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: drfchound on April 10, 2019, 03:26:32 pm
Averaging out over a season isn’t a real option.
Teams can put together a good or indeed a bad run over the last few games.
Look how we collapsed a couple of years back while Portsmouth were winning seven and drawing once in the final eight games.
One game at a time chaps.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: bobjimwilly on April 10, 2019, 04:01:38 pm
Averaging out over a season isn’t a real option.
Teams can put together a good or indeed a bad run over the last few games.

Indeed. Posh are one place below us in form table - -over last 6 matches we've gained 11 points, they've gained 9. If they carry on the current form they would finish on 70 points, which would mean 4 points from our final 5 games would be enough.

Realistically they need to improve their form and rely on us doing worse, however they have Sunderland, Portsmouth and Blackpool in their final 6 - I just can't see them improving their form.
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Paul Simpson on April 10, 2019, 04:22:46 pm
Plymouth will be a difficult game . They aren’t safe from relegation yet and we are missing our talisman 🤞
Title: Re: Next Saturday could be
Post by: Monkcaster_Rover on April 10, 2019, 10:21:13 pm
Hope that Plymouth fan who did the review of our game v them at their place is going. He posted it on here. Was one of the best I've seen in terms match day footage.