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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: selby on April 20, 2019, 09:52:58 am
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A reaction, that is what we need after that poor display, against a team that at their place earlier in the season just out fought us in a game, and on the night wanted it more than us, so thinking it will be easy and a given can be dispelled straight away.
What team will we put out? who will play? it is any ones guess to me, but whoever plays they have to perform, and a decent fair to both teams referee would help.
No rambling on today, I am more interested in your opinions on this game.
Lot's of questions to answer about the game, and what your opinions are, Please have your say.
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4-2-3-1 please
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now i've corrected my mistake posted elsewhere......
Summing up Rovers have one more day to recover from the Sundie loss than Accringeton will have to recover from the TV game with Luton & of course they will put in 110% effort today. By the way AFC Wimbledon will also have an extra day before they play Luton.
If Accies can get at least a point they that will make Sunderland & Portsmouth think they even have a chance of the title and make it harder for Peterb
well that's the theory
it wasn't that long since i suggested Rovers would finish above Portsmouth (after that long string of defeats) and people were agreeing with me :suicide:
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Think I’d start the game with the same team that started the second half, they where a vast improvement on the one that started the first half.
COYR
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Think I’d start the game with the same team that started the second half, they where a vast improvement on the one that started the first half.
...although they'd be a little tired after already having played 45 mins.
I'd have the team that started the first half and swap in the subs from the start, there's more in the tank that way.
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The team for Tuesday
Marosi
Blair. Downing. Anderson Andrew
Whiteman. Kane
Wilks. Copps. Rowe
Marquis
If Whiteman is not fit playCrawford.
I’ve picked Anderson because I believe Butler was poor against Wykes.
Enough quality in the side hopefully get the required result. Of course stubborn GM will stick with 433 and play Copps on the left where he is less affective
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It would be good if everyone just 'turns up' and we don't have a repeat of yesterday!
Tactics need sorting for the Oxford away game, but that's for later.
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Glosterred, you would seriously start May? what for? and Who for?
We were better in the second half admittedly, mainly due to Crawford and Rowe playing better in midfield, but, apart from a comical jump attempt to head the ball, I cannot think of one thing he did to improve our game.
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I see somewhere that someone thought that Rowe was MoM against Sunderland, was he actually on the pitch?
Rowe on the bench for me Crawford to start.
My opinion for what it's worth is that we will only be 1 point in front of Peterboro come Tuesday night so whatever team he puts out they are going to have to perform far better than they did Friday.
Don't forget we blame Fergie for the collapse at the end of each season but quite a few of these players were here then and played their part in these collapses hope the end this season is not a repeat of the last few
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Glosterred, you would seriously start May? what for? and Who for?
We were better in the second half admittedly, mainly due to Crawford and Rowe playing better in midfield, but, apart from a comical jump attempt to head the ball, I cannot think of one thing he did to improve our game.
May has scored 2 in 33 league appearances this season. We need to win on Saturday and to do that we need to score a goal(s). May should not be starting.
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... quite a few of these players were here then and played their part in these collapses hope the end this season is not a repeat of the last few
4 wins in 5 games is good, fantastic, champion style, superdooper. Jeeez... how can you even be thinking about a collapse? Dare yuo walk out your front door? :boxing: :thumbsup: :woohoo: :woot: :scarf:
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Let’s just get the win, I don’t care if it flies in off Andy Butlers arse in the 97th minute to be honest. One more win should almost seal it.
Hopefully results on Monday go in our favour too.
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Glosterred, you would seriously start May? what for? and Who for?
We were better in the second half admittedly, mainly due to Crawford and Rowe playing better in midfield, but, apart from a comical jump attempt to head the ball, I cannot think of one thing he did to improve our game.
For the two that went off, Copps and Whiteman. May showed more energy than Copps did. He was more willing to chase and harry than Copps is. You can always bring on Copps for the last 30 mins if need be
COYR
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... quite a few of these players were here then and played their part in these collapses hope the end this season is not a repeat of the last few
4 wins in 5 games is good, fantastic, champion style, superdooper. Jeeez... how can you even be thinking about a collapse? Dare yuo walk out your front door? :boxing: :thumbsup: :woohoo: :woot: :scarf:
I dare walk out the door but only after I've sent the missus out first to check that it's OK😉
I'm afraid I've supported The Rovers for a long time and have been let down too many times to be an optimist
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Glosterred, you would seriously start May? what for? and Who for?
We were better in the second half admittedly, mainly due to Crawford and Rowe playing better in midfield, but, apart from a comical jump attempt to head the ball, I cannot think of one thing he did to improve our game.
May has scored 2 in 33 league appearances this season. We need to win on Saturday and to do that we need to score a goal(s). May should not be starting.
Sorry, but I’ve lost what little faith i had in Alfie May coming good. I just dont see what he offers apart from running round chasing shadows. Surely we’ve got better options.
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Still need 4 points by my reckoning. Peterborough are 4 points behind with 4 to go IF they lose on Monday and we win on Tuesday they will be 7 behind but still have 3 to go. So a potential of 9 points. We will still need another win or hope they lose another match. It is still in our hands but 6 points still required from our last 3 games to be sure.
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Two of their four games are against Sunderland and Portsmouth - the latter of which has won 9 of their last 10.
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............... It is still in our hands but 6 points still required from our last 3 games to be sure.
‘Fraud not, deebee. To be absolutely sure of being in the play offs we need to win all of our remaining 3 games.
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Sunderland marked Coppinger tight like every team in this division does in the first half.
Their fullbacks were the main difference in the two teams,steady when in possession, kept a good shape and when not in possession placed themselves between the ball and their goal and were good tacklers, and when they played the ball forward played the easy ball down the channels into space for their wide players.
In the second half their left back had an easy ride with May on, and could afford to play a little more forward off May and cover more central and narrower, May was easy meat for him posing no threat, and not getting the ball into the area at all.
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Sunderland marked Coppinger tight like every team in this division does in the first half.
Their fullbacks were the main difference in the two teams,steady when in possession, kept a good shape and when not in possession placed themselves between the ball and their goal and were good tacklers, and when they played the ball forward played the easy ball down the channels into space for their wide players.
In the second half their left back had an easy ride with May on, and could afford to play a little more forward off May and cover more central and narrower, May was easy meat for him posing no threat, and not getting the ball into the area at all.
I could have swore that May got goalside of the defender and got a foot to the ball just before the advancing keeper blocked it on the edge of the box?
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............... It is still in our hands but 6 points still required from our last 3 games to be sure.
‘Fraud not, deebee. To be absolutely sure of being in the play offs we need to win all of our remaining 3 games.
Actually, if ‘borough lose 3 of their last 4 games, then we can also be certain of going up.............just saying!
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Let’s just get the win, I don’t care if it flies in off Andy Butlers arse in the 97th minute to be honest. One more win should almost seal it.
Hopefully results on Monday go in our favour too.
One more win will not seal it even if Peterborough lose to Sunderland.
If they win then then there is a fair chance it could go down to the last game.
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Accrington playing at the moment with 10 men are going to be right knackered for Tuesday but beware
Accies have had 20 penalties this season (17 scored) 2nd out of 92 clubs -- crystal palace have 21 penalties - have the most due to that professional diver "a.k.a. Zaha"i
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Your right, but it will be very welcome and will edge us closer to the play offs.
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A reaction, that is what we need after that poor display, against a team that at their place earlier in the season just out fought us in a game, and on the night wanted it more than us, so thinking it will be easy and a given can be dispelled straight away.
What team will we put out? who will play? it is any ones guess to me, but whoever plays they have to perform, and a decent fair to both teams referee would help.
No rambling on today, I am more interested in your opinions on this game.
Lot's of questions to answer about the game, and what your opinions are, Please have your say.
Well Brian, the big question for me is whether or not today's events at Stanley will have a bearing on Tuesday's game. They had their goalie sent off, a player stretchered off, and were ran ragged for much of the game, having to play a team as good as Luton with only 10 men on the field.
Will all of this make them vulnerable against us, or bring about a reaction? Jonny Maxted will be playing against his old club, and that can often inspire a player to have a good game.
Also, of course, they're still nowhere near safe from relegation, and will be determined and commited.
However, our home form is brilliant just now, and a complete contrast to our away form. I think we'll have enough to see them off.
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Glosterred, you would seriously start May? what for? and Who for?
We were better in the second half admittedly, mainly due to Crawford and Rowe playing better in midfield, but, apart from a comical jump attempt to head the ball, I cannot think of one thing he did to improve our game.
For the two that went off, Copps and Whiteman. May showed more energy than Copps did. He was more willing to chase and harry than Copps is. You can always bring on Copps for the last 30 mins if need be
COYR
But for a good save by the Sunderland keeper, May could have scored.
Funny how the memory blocks stuff people don’t want to remember.
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Let’s just get the win, I don’t care if it flies in off Andy Butlers arse in the 97th minute to be honest. One more win should almost seal it.
Hopefully results on Monday go in our favour too.
One more win will not seal it even if Peterborough lose to Sunderland.
If they win then then there is a fair chance it could go down to the last game.
No but if they lose to Sunderland and we win Tuesday it will “almost seal it.”
That scenario would mean Peterborough would need us to lose our remaining 2 games and they would need to win there remaining 3 including Vs Portsmouth.
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The whole team were very poor at Sunderland imo. May has done remarkably well to play in this league. He’s not had much in the way of opportunity to be fair to him? I really don’t know if he’s progressing this season but he certainly puts in plenty of effort. I’m not sure now if we’re a good enough team to go up but what a great season it has been!! 😀
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Steve, I watched the Luton v Accrington game, they are no push overs, keep a shape, do not try to do what they cannot do, and have some decent players.
That game looked to have taken a lot out of them however, and injuries and sending off's don't normally help the situation.
To me they visibly tired in the last quarter, but were doing a lot of ball chasing against a rampant Luton side who did the same to us.
It is up to us, and the way we play, if we play well we should win, and we currently have every incentive to do so.
The team selection will be interesting, but I and we should just trust Grant to get it right and that we finish in the top six, which I think we will.
Regardless of that, it has been a season to enjoy, which I have.
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Reading the Accrington forum, most of the posters expect them come looking for a draw, being defensive and trying to frustrate and hit us on a counter attack.
Just the kind of tactics we have struggled to overcome in past games, so an early goal again would be just the ticket again in tonight's game.
Every time we have played them since they came back into the league they have looked a well drilled unit, and have been hard to break down, with decent strong central defenders.
Maxted will want to impress, and going forward they caused us trouble in the earlier fixture at Accrington, although we missed chances in that game to get at least a point.
So not an easy game, but I am hoping as that we can rise to the occasion and get a win, we are a better football side than them, and if we play well we will win, to do so we will have to overcome Accrington's efforts to try and stop us, getting in front is the key, and our crowd not getting nervous but getting behind the team and spurring them on will help.
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My opinion for what it's worth is that we will only be 1 point in front of Peterboro come Tuesday night
Your opinion wasn't worth much.......... just saying like :whistle:
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Hound, just read the earlier comment, are you telling me he fell short in front of goal again.
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stats show a very tight draw and I have to agree, have a 10er on at 4.33
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stats show a very tight draw and I have to agree, have a 10er on at 4.33
really. which stats are they? we have a 12 win to 2 loss record and plus 23 GD, they have a 6 win to 9 loss and a minus 10 GD. This shoyuld be as a bout as big a home banker as you get. Coupled with how easy we despatch lower half of the table teams.
And before anyone starts spouting tempting fate bobbins. Theres no such thing. What will happen is the result will hinge on how the players play, not what someone types on a web forum. If anyone thinks differently, well. jeez...
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Looks like Crawford will start tonight in place of Whiteman. Now it’s whether GM plays 433 or 4231 to get the best out of Copps.
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I just hope and pray we go and get 3 points.
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That’s down to the team they must perform and get the result. 7 of these players have faulted at this stage last season.
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Steve, there is a big difference this season in the man at the helm though, and his approach to the situation.
And he wants to be here.
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Well Coppinger should be fresh..Being a legend like he is means when you put in performances like he did on Friday at Sunderland you escape the abuse that anybody would normally have received,Frankly he put in one of the worst displays that I've ever seen from him and was lucky to get to half time before being taken off...
So at least against a more tired,weaker opposition he should have more of a impact tonight..
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Accrington have kept one clean sheet in their last ten league away games and three clean away sheets the entire league season.
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Wing Commander, he has had bad games before for us, but not that many, and very rarely one after another, in spite of being marked tightly every match he plays.
The thing is the players that replace him, like Friday, make very little difference match after match.
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Corrected to make clear these are all away sheets I am talking about.
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Corrected to make clear these are all away sheets I am talking about.
Post removed CBCB.
At the start of the season we had never beaten AFC Wimbledon or Wycombe in a FL League match - tick :thumbsup:
At the start of the season we had not beaten Sunderland or Burton in a FL match - not achieved :thumbdown:
At the start of the season we had not beaten Accrington Stanley in a League match since they rejoined the League - needs to be set straight. :scarf:
Note: We have beaten Sunderland (FA Cup), Burton (Conf and JPT), and also Accrington Stanley since re-entry (JPT), and of course we have beaten both the old Wimbledon and MK Dons in League matches.
The only other team we have played in the Football League and never beaten is Newcastle. We have never played Chelsea or Forest Green Rovers in a Football League match.
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Well Coppinger should be fresh..Being a legend like he is means when you put in performances like he did on Friday at Sunderland you escape the abuse that anybody would normally have received,Frankly he put in one of the worst displays that I've ever seen from him and was lucky to get to half time before being taken off...
So at least against a more tired,weaker opposition he should have more of a impact tonight..
If we are playing 433 then I would not start Copps on the left for me he has to come inside for his assists and being more creative. I know he’s played most of games there but majority he has been effective when he cuts in from that position
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Accrington have kept one clean sheet in their last ten league away games and three clean away sheets the entire league season.
We have only drawn a blank five times at home in the league this season - and three of these were against Sunderland, Portsmouth and Dingles.
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I hope we will get into them much as in recent home victories with early goals.. they are fighting for survival against relegation so would need to come back at us..
I think we do better in an open game..
Will help somewhat if Wilks is on it..
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Yes - get out of the Traps and get them on the back foot - and take the Ref Sebastian Stockbridge out of the equation
Take 3 points - move on to Oxford and hope (not getting ahead of myself) we put the recent poor(er) away displays behind us