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Title: Ref
Post by: dickos1 on April 23, 2019, 10:01:24 pm
How on earth has he only found 2 mins added time
They time wasted from the 10th minute onwards
I was expecting around 8 mins
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Dare to dream! on April 23, 2019, 10:02:00 pm
i think 4 would have been fair but 2 was ridiculous
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: PaulRover08 on April 23, 2019, 10:02:43 pm
I’ve never seen 2 minutes at the end of a game ever, let alone one that had so much time wasted, 3 subs and a goal.


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Title: Re: Ref
Post by: dickos1 on April 23, 2019, 10:05:11 pm
It’s never ever 2 at the end of the game never mind a game where every available minute was wasted
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: StocktonRover on April 23, 2019, 10:09:22 pm
Let’s not overlook the 50 seconds he wasted for them delaying our free kick and then measuring out 10 yards when the nearest opposition player was 20 yards away.......
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: mushRTID on April 23, 2019, 10:12:35 pm
I guessed 4 or 5 min then when I saw grant going mental I knew it was bad news.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: 5minstogo on April 23, 2019, 10:13:13 pm
Let’s not overlook the 50 seconds he wasted for them delaying our free kick and then measuring out 10 yards when the nearest opposition player was 20 yards away.......

He did this at least twice
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: dickos1 on April 23, 2019, 10:13:34 pm
I’ve never seen 2 at end of a game
Never mind a game like that
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: eastender on April 23, 2019, 10:18:37 pm
Only 1 sub in second half = 30 secs , so he probably added  90+ secs for time wasting.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: roversdude on April 23, 2019, 10:19:58 pm
I’ve never seen anyone unbooked and rarely 2 minutes at the end of a game - warning after warning to get on with it and then just turns his back
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on April 23, 2019, 10:20:49 pm
Let’s not overlook the 50 seconds he wasted for them delaying our free kick and then measuring out 10 yards when the nearest opposition player was 20 yards away.......

That was just unbelievable...
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: bobbymax on April 23, 2019, 10:23:00 pm
After 50 years, I can put up bad results and even shit performances against a team of cloggers but the tipping point is fast approaching when I repeatedly see idiots like this ruining football matches.
 Is it honestly worth spending hard-earned cash to come out talking about another referee who can't even get the basics rights and thinks people are coming to watch him pace out ten yards to a non-existent wall? He did this not once but three times. Don't even get me started on the two minutes stoppage time - yet another clown in ref's clothing!
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Spud on April 23, 2019, 10:23:10 pm
I’ve never seen anyone unbooked and rarely 2 minutes at the end of a game - warning after warning to get on with it and then just turns his back

Did he actually unhook him or was he threatening him with a second yellow?
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: RoversAlias on April 23, 2019, 10:23:28 pm
The referee was a complete jobsworth tosspot. Embarrassing and it is making me angry now how bad the referees are. We spend our time and money to come and watch professional football and it is getting constantly spoiled by inept, unfit jobsworths week after week.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: dickos1 on April 23, 2019, 10:25:49 pm
I’ve never seen anyone unbooked and rarely 2 minutes at the end of a game - warning after warning to get on with it and then just turns his back

Did he actually unhook him or was he threatening him with a second yellow?

Unbooked him cause Anderson was injured
Their player didn’t have a clue he was injured
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: PDX_Rover on April 23, 2019, 10:27:21 pm
He was poor. How there wasn’t a min of 4 minutes at the end was funny if it wasn’t so f**king tragic.

Whatever though, we should never have been in the position we were in in that game.

I don’t know what GM was trying to do.the second half team has to start the next game, assuming Copps is injured.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: POD on April 23, 2019, 10:29:45 pm
I’ve never seen 2 minutes at the end of a game ever, let alone one that had so much time wasted, 3 subs and a goal.


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Regarding the two minutes added on, yes this is rare.  Looking at second half stoppages, there was only one sub for Accrington and none for us, as they were made at half time.  That means 30 seconds is added on.  There is never time allowed for a goal being scored unless there is excessive time wasted before the restart, which there wasn’t as it was Rovers who scored.  The trainer never came onto the pitch at all in the second half, so the ref did actually allow some added time for Accrington time wasting.  He did actually play three minutes in the end. 
It wasn’t the refs fault that we lost the game, we are all just a bit frustrated that we didn’t turn up in the first half. 
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: dickos1 on April 23, 2019, 10:32:55 pm
I’ve never seen 2 minutes at the end of a game ever, let alone one that had so much time wasted, 3 subs and a goal.


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Regarding the two minutes added on, yes this is rare.  Looking at second half stoppages, there was only one sub for Accrington and none for us, as they were made at half time.  That means 30 seconds is added on.  There is never time allowed for a goal being scored unless there is excessive time wasted before the restart, which there wasn’t as it was Rovers who scored.  The trainer never came onto the pitch at all in the second half, so the ref did actually allow some added time for Accrington time wasting.  He did actually play three minutes in the end. 
It wasn’t the refs fault that we lost the game, we are all just a bit frustrated that we didn’t turn up in the first half. 


Are you having a laugh?
They time wasted everytime the ball went out of play, he spoke to their captain about it, he spoke to two players for kicking the ball away, he booked a player for time wasting,
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: PaulRover08 on April 23, 2019, 10:38:05 pm
I’ve never seen 2 minutes at the end of a game ever, let alone one that had so much time wasted, 3 subs and a goal.


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Regarding the two minutes added on, yes this is rare.  Looking at second half stoppages, there was only one sub for Accrington and none for us, as they were made at half time.  That means 30 seconds is added on.  There is never time allowed for a goal being scored unless there is excessive time wasted before the restart, which there wasn’t as it was Rovers who scored.  The trainer never came onto the pitch at all in the second half, so the ref did actually allow some added time for Accrington time wasting.  He did actually play three minutes in the end. 
It wasn’t the refs fault that we lost the game, we are all just a bit frustrated that we didn’t turn up in the first half. 


Are you having a laugh?
They time wasted everytime the ball went out of play, he spoke to their captain about it, he spoke to two players for kicking the ball away, he booked a player for time wasting,
You are right, 1 sub. Still should have been 5 minimum added. Pretty sure it’s 30 seconds per goal no matter what.


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Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on April 23, 2019, 10:38:14 pm
I posted this 3 days ago - to me NO SURPRISE whatsoever tonight



WARNING +++ WARNING +++ WARNING +++

Woolmer has gone and along comes HIM

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=256596.msg616061#msg616061 (https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=256596.msg616061#msg616061)

Most of you will remember this game as well I bet
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: StocksArmy on April 23, 2019, 10:41:57 pm
Weve just conjured up that shower of sh!t of a performance and this is a big deal? Wowzers!
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: BillyStubbsTears on April 23, 2019, 10:45:48 pm
He indicated 2 minutes before we scored. There should have been time added on for the delay in restarting. Then the trainer was on for a minute when Sadlier was booked. And he played 3 minutes.

And that's ignoring the constant time wasting throughout the match.

Shocking display by him and that arsing about with pacing out the 10 yards for a non-existent wall was the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen from a ref.

Doesn't change the fact that we were appalling, mind.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: pib on April 23, 2019, 10:46:01 pm
Weve just conjured up that shower of sh!t of a performance and this is a big deal? Wowzers!

We were pushing at the end tbf and might have nicked something if an appropriate amount of time had been added.

I’ve maintained the same stance on officials all season, that we tend to forget the lucky breaks we get and things that go for us, and that they generally even out the times when we get the shitty end of the stick. But tonight the balance has tipped for me... where do the EFL keep getting these f**king clowns from, and why are they being foisted on us week after week?!
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: elmsallrover on April 23, 2019, 10:52:32 pm
Could have put 3 days of extra time on the board and we still wouldn't score
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: dickos1 on April 23, 2019, 10:55:41 pm
We hit woodwork twice
We were w**k tonight but if they’d played 6/7 mins added on I would’ve thought we would’ve had a couple more chances
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: bobbymax on April 23, 2019, 11:00:19 pm
Could have put 3 days of extra time on the board and we still wouldn't score
Disagree, they were out on their feet in the last 10 minutes - hence the even more pronounced time-waiting.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: roversdude on April 23, 2019, 11:10:00 pm
Took them an age to restart after we scored
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ck-rtid on April 23, 2019, 11:11:12 pm
There is no set time added on for subs or goals
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Pliskin on April 23, 2019, 11:29:14 pm
The way Accrington were time wasting I'd have been disappointed with only 4 minutes added.

But to add only 2 minutes, it felt like the officials were just trolling us at that point. Honestly unbelievable. Oblivious t**ts!
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: The Red Baron on April 24, 2019, 12:41:52 am
This is the same referee we had at Oxford last season. At the end of 90 minutes he added on five, which seemed excessive because there had been no major stoppages and any time wasting wasn't on the scale of tonight. Oxford scored the winner in the 7th minute of added time.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: mrfrostsdad on April 24, 2019, 01:01:36 am
They wasted time from the minute they went in front. But the worst decision the ref made all night was when he didn't give Accrington a stone wall penalty after Blair (I think) somehow headed against his own post/crossbar. It was as bad a decision as the penalty we didn't get at Sunderland on Friday. That could/would have made it 3-0.

We got what we deserved tonight, because play like we did in the first half and you deserve nothing.
We'll still be in the playoffs and that's a different ball game
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: RoversAlias on April 24, 2019, 01:34:25 am
Can someone tell me what this stonewall penalty would've been for? I was at the other end and didn't see any infringement when Blair nearly scored the own goal.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: roversdude on April 24, 2019, 03:06:11 am
Don’t know if anyone noticed but every time Maxted had a goal kick, one of their players was distracting the ref so he didn’t notice how long it was taking
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: CJK on April 24, 2019, 06:46:00 am
Don’t know if anyone noticed but every time Maxted had a goal kick, one of their players was distracting the ref so he didn’t notice how long it was taking

We noticed that!
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Donnywolf on April 24, 2019, 06:56:41 am
Every time - I pointed this out to those around me. Also the fact that almost every time the Ball went out one of them poked it away back past him

3 grand a week and he misses a roll from the Ball boy or a pass from a Team mate

That said we were rubbish from the start - and seeing us play that badly after Sunderland away and Bradford away is massively frustrating and the Officials seem to exacerbate that frustration ....

.... BUT they are easy targets because of the actions they take or dont take . Someone said elsewhere they probably are not biased and are probably just totally incompetent


Finally for the umpteenth time - we must move to a fixed 30 (or maybe 35) Game clock.
Ball goes out of play or play stops for Goals Subs injuries (be they real or fake) and the Clock stops. Take forever to take a goal kick or throw in - or as last night have a free kick you want to take quickly delayed 3 times by Ref - no problem - no time lost because the Game clock has not been restarted yet
AND as a massive bonus there would be no "where did 6 Minutes come from" or like last night "2 minutes 2 f*****g minutes" becasue the Clock would be right there fr all to see as in American Football to name but one

It wont solve everrything - Teams will still try to run down the Clock by going to the corners for one but at least you can boot them and give away a Free Kick to stop the Clock ! Bring it on soon p-l-e-a-s-e !!!
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: mrfrostsdad on April 24, 2019, 07:24:25 am
Can someone tell me what this stonewall penalty would've been for? I was at the other end and didn't see any infringement when Blair nearly scored the own goal.

Hi Alias,
Two handed push in the middle of the back straight after the ball was headed on to our own woodwork by Blair. Sent their kid flying. All Accringtons officials/players were going mad, especially manager and coach with the 4th official.
We had a really good view from next to the press box and I think we all knew it was a penno.
I agree with Wolf's 30 minutes each way and stop the clock for each stoppage idea. There would be no point in time wasting, because I'll be really honest and say if we were in the same position in ANY league as they were last night, where a win almost guarantees survival, I'd expected us to waste as much time as possible if we got 2-0 in front. They're safe now and good luck to them on the smallest budget in the league
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: dickos1 on April 24, 2019, 10:50:32 am
It wasn’t Coleman going mad, he just sat in his chair and didn’t move the whole game, he could’ve been on his deckchair on Filey beach.
Calm as f**k while everyone around him was going mad the whole game
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: The Red Baron on April 24, 2019, 01:18:15 pm
It wasn’t Coleman going mad, he just sat in his chair and didn’t move the whole game, he could’ve been on his deckchair on Filey beach.
Calm as f**k while everyone around him was going mad the whole game

I think the excitable cove is Jimmy Bell, the assistant manager.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Colemans Left Hook on April 24, 2019, 01:24:34 pm
I’ve never seen 2 at end of a game
Never mind a game like that

i thought that last night  as well when i heard the amount of time on sky .. a cynic could say if the ref took his shirt off he had a "vested " interest in the result --   and an observer would think "that person " had his own agenda --  is it possible to make an official complaint even though nothing would come of it 
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: RoversAlias on April 24, 2019, 03:42:39 pm
Can someone tell me what this stonewall penalty would've been for? I was at the other end and didn't see any infringement when Blair nearly scored the own goal.

I know there's being biased, but with eye-sight like that were you refereeing?

It was 'nailed on' and mind-boggling that he didn't give it, just as mind-boggling as it was that Blair somehow managed to bugger up and hit the post in the first place.

Had things panned out differently, they'd have been banging on about it in their post-match interviews for sure.

Rigo, I was sat halfway up the South Stand and this happened at the very far end of the field. My post was a genuine question, which MFD answered for me. All I could see was Blair heading it onto his own bar, can't even remember anyone else who was in the vicinity. My previous post wasn't an attempt to claim there was no foul, it was me asking what had happened because I couldn't see it.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: RoversAlias on April 24, 2019, 03:50:36 pm
I can't see us losing out on 6th place to GD. Peterborough have to overturn a 7-goal deficit on that one and to do so they'd have to win one more game than us, in effect meaning they'd have to claw that 7 goals back in just the one game. Unless they hammer Portsmouth, at Fratton Park, that feels unlikely. The only way they'll overturn the GD deficit is if they win their last few games and we lose ours, at which point we'd be behind them on points anyway.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: ravenrover on April 24, 2019, 06:27:42 pm
Depends how many we lose our last two by as well don’t forget. Playing like we did in the 1st half there is no way we will beat Oxford or Coventry
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: RoversAlias on April 24, 2019, 09:19:41 pm
Well like I say, if we lose our last two games, I am quite confident we will be behind Peterborough on points, thus Goal Difference will be irrelevant.
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Pancho Regan on April 24, 2019, 11:48:44 pm
They wasted time from the minute they went in front.

Actually it was worse than that.

In the very first sequence of play after the kick-off, we played a ball through the left channel which was over-hit. I’m not sure who played it; sadly it was to be the first of many passes which didn’t find their intended target.

Anyway, the ball was rolling aimlessly towards Accrington’s goal-line, being shepherded by their right back. There was no Rovers player anywhere near him as he tracked back, jogging slowly alongside the ball. It would have been the easiest, logical thing for the Stanley defender to have stopped the ball, turned, looked up, thought about his options, and kept play moving, taking Stanley forward.

But instead, he followed the run of the ball almost at walking pace, until it crossed the goal-line for a Stanley goal kick. As soon as the ball crossed the line, he stopped and turned and jogged the other way.
No attempt to play the ball, no attempt to retrieve it or pass it to Jonny Maxted for the goal kick.

The incident would have gone unnoticed by most people, but as it happened in front of me it made me think.
What was in that defender’s mind? What made him decide not to stop the run of the ball, turn with it, and move his team forward?

I looked up at the clock.
1.06 minutes played.
I knew what I’d witnessed.
The Stanley defender was wasting time.