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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: Branton Rover on April 24, 2019, 07:50:13 pm
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I cannot believe how much stick JM gets from so called fans on here & online Facebook Twitter etc
Marquis has scored 20+ goals 2 out of the 3 seasons he’s been here & to me his value to the team will only really be appreciated once he departs & the moaners will be out in force demanding that the board get the cheque books out to get a 20+ goal scorer again - he’s received stick in the last 2 games & for me he can’t do anything when the midfield is literally supplying him with zero service. Added to his goals tally I doubt any potential future replacement will put his work rate into their game as JM puts into his - he is a proper 90 minute footballer & although granted he’s sometimes frustrating to watch I tell you with a great deal of certainty that whoever replaces him long term will find it incredibly hard to match his goals and all round game.
He also attends fans functions like meet the owners evenings etc & was at Blackpool the night when he wasn’t even eligible to play & came to applaud the fans at the final whistle on a bloody horrible cold & windy evening
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Some of the stuff being said about him on Tuesday night was incredible.
One idiot even questioned how JM could even call himself a professional footballer.
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He’s scored a lot of goals, but he hasn’t performed now for 10/11 games it’s not usual for someone to be out of form for so long and not be taken out of the side.
He’s had chances over these last 10 games, opportunities that he would’ve taken comfortable earlier in the season
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
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Had to leave that FB group today.
Final straw was a kid who I know, who can't kick a ball straight, referring to John Marquis as a 'make a wish' competition winner.
Words fail me.
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I suspect JM cant wait to get away. He’ll be counting down the days.
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I suspect JM cant wait to get away. He’ll be counting down the days.
He’s certainly playing like he gives a s***!
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I suspect JM cant wait to get away. He’ll be counting down the days.
My thoughts too.
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
JM has lost his form and is not scoring goals ,
the team by all accounts are not working hard enough to get JM into goal scoring positions,
there are only 2 games left,
we need to win both games to be certain of a very undeserved play off place ,
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
JM has lost his form and is not scoring goals ,
the team by all accounts are not working hard enough to get JM into goal scoring positions,
there are only 2 games left,
we need to win both games to be certain of a very undeserved play off place ,
repeat ,.....
repeat,.....
repeat......
Why would it be underserved if we get it?
It would have been earned over 46 matches.
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I suspect JM cant wait to get away. He’ll be counting down the days.
Feels like that thought process started in January....the stats are there to see, ....ya just gotta look at them....
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
JM has lost his form and is not scoring goals ,
the team by all accounts are not working hard enough to get JM into goal scoring positions,
there are only 2 games left,
we need to win both games to be certain of a very undeserved play off place ,
repeat ,.....
repeat,.....
repeat......
Why would it be underserved if we get it?
It would have been earned over 46 matches.
Because we have been playing crap in too many games and been saved by the odd bit of fortune....
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
JM has lost his form and is not scoring goals ,
the team by all accounts are not working hard enough to get JM into goal scoring positions,
there are only 2 games left,
we need to win both games to be certain of a very undeserved play off place ,
repeat ,.....
repeat,.....
repeat......
Why would it be underserved if we get it
It would have been earned over 46 matches.
Because we have been playing crap in too many games and been saved by the odd bit of fortune....
......ah, so i guess that Peterbro and Coventry have played flawlessly and not had any luck at all.
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
JM has lost his form and is not scoring goals ,
the team by all accounts are not working hard enough to get JM into goal scoring positions,
there are only 2 games left,
we need to win both games to be certain of a very undeserved play off place ,
repeat ,.....
repeat,.....
repeat......
Why would it be underserved if we get it
It would have been earned over 46 matches.
Because we have been playing crap in too many games and been saved by the odd bit of fortune....
......ah, so i guess that Peterbro and Coventry have played flawlessly and not had any luck at all.
Are you seriously guessing ?
I don’t really care enough about other clubs, and I care less for attributing flawless performances from such clubs....
I care about my club...Donny!!
As I said “ we have played crap in too many games and been saved by a bit of good fortune”
If you don’t agree,..by all means just say so, but don’t expect me to go into pointless comparisons....lol
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
JM has lost his form and is not scoring goals ,
the team by all accounts are not working hard enough to get JM into goal scoring positions,
there are only 2 games left,
we need to win both games to be certain of a very undeserved play off place ,
repeat ,.....
repeat,.....
repeat......
Why would it be underserved if we get it
It would have been earned over 46 matches.
Because we have been playing crap in too many games and been saved by the odd bit of fortune....
......ah, so i guess that Peterbro and Coventry have played flawlessly and not had any luck at all.
Are you seriously guessing ?
I don’t really care enough about other clubs, and I care less for attributing flawless performances from such clubs....
I care about my club...Donny!!
As I said “ we have played crap in too many games and been saved by a bit of good fortune”
If you don’t agree,..by all means just say so, but don’t expect me to go into pointless comparisons....lol
Christ, does it matter HOW we get there? if we finish above 18-21 other clubs then we deserve to be in the playoff places.
You almost seem disappointed that we are in the playoff places. :laugh:
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
JM has lost his form and is not scoring goals ,
the team by all accounts are not working hard enough to get JM into goal scoring positions,
there are only 2 games left,
we need to win both games to be certain of a very undeserved play off place ,
repeat ,.....
repeat,.....
repeat......
Why would it be underserved if we get it
It would have been earned over 46 matches.
Because we have been playing crap in too many games and been saved by the odd bit of fortune....
......ah, so i guess that Peterbro and Coventry have played flawlessly and not had any luck at all.
Are you seriously guessing ?
I don’t really care enough about other clubs, and I care less for attributing flawless performances from such clubs....
I care about my club...Donny!!
As I said “ we have played crap in too many games and been saved by a bit of good fortune”
If you don’t agree,..by all means just say so, but don’t expect me to go into pointless comparisons....lol
But it isn’t pointless comparisons is it.
I am not saying that we haven’t played poorly in some games and also had a bit of good luck.
But without doubt, Peterbro and Coventry will have done the same.
We have also had some bad luck too, the disallowed winner against Charlton for example.
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
JM has lost his form and is not scoring goals ,
the team by all accounts are not working hard enough to get JM into goal scoring positions,
there are only 2 games left,
we need to win both games to be certain of a very undeserved play off place ,
repeat ,.....
repeat,.....
repeat......
Why would it be underserved if we get it
It would have been earned over 46 matches.
Because we have been playing crap in too many games and been saved by the odd bit of fortune....
......ah, so i guess that Peterbro and Coventry have played flawlessly and not had any luck at all.
Are you seriously guessing ?
I don’t really care enough about other clubs, and I care less for attributing flawless performances from such clubs....
I care about my club...Donny!!
As I said “ we have played crap in too many games and been saved by a bit of good fortune”
If you don’t agree,..by all means just say so, but don’t expect me to go into pointless comparisons....lol
Crikey you do spout some rubbish Sha66y.
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
JM has lost his form and is not scoring goals ,
the team by all accounts are not working hard enough to get JM into goal scoring positions,
there are only 2 games left,
we need to win both games to be certain of a very undeserved play off place ,
repeat ,.....
repeat,.....
repeat......
Why would it be underserved if we get it?
It would have been earned over 46 matches.
Because we have been playing crap in too many games and been saved by the odd bit of fortune....
What a load of b*llocks.
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
JM has lost his form and is not scoring goals ,
the team by all accounts are not working hard enough to get JM into goal scoring positions,
there are only 2 games left,
we need to win both games to be certain of a very undeserved play off place ,
repeat ,.....
repeat,.....
repeat......
Why would it be underserved if we get it?
It would have been earned over 46 matches.
Because we have been playing crap in too many games and been saved by the odd bit of fortune....
What a load of b*llocks.
That is actually what I meant to say Billy.
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If we don't go up john will be gone and good luck hopefully someone can step up or we pick up another hidden gem
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Well said BR. Reading the clueless JM comments it makes me embarrassed to be a DRFC supporter. The best strikers in the world lose form, I don’t understand why we don’t support him instead of giving him dogs abuse every week.
We will 100% know about it when we no longer have him.
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
I know it’s form,
Not saying we should sell him but how long do you keep playing him when he’s being so poor
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
I know it’s form,
Not saying we should sell him but how long do you keep playing when he’s being so poor
I though it was stating the bleedin' obvious to say you don't drop a 20-goal striker two games from the end of a season in which you are still in the hunt for a play-off place.
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He’s scored a lot of goals, but he hasn’t performed now for 10/11 games it’s not usual for someone to be out of form for so long and not be taken out of the side.
He’s had chances over these last 10 games, opportunities that he would’ve taken comfortable earlier in the season
This is not unreasonable. He has scored a lot of goals and he does work very hard, but for some time now he has not delivered. Every player goes through these spells even the very best (Copps) and nobody should be above getting some time on bench if need be.
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Player stays fit, plays virtually every game and 90 minutes in each one. Has a goal return of virtually 1 in 2 and he’s getting slated. It just beggars belief.
Just be careful what you bloody wish for
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I cannot believe how much stick JM gets from so called fans on here & online Facebook Twitter etc
Marquis has scored 20+ goals 2 out of the 3 seasons he’s been here & to me his value to the team will only really be appreciated once he departs & the moaners will be out in force demanding that the board get the cheque books out to get a 20+ goal scorer again - he’s received stick in the last 2 games & for me he can’t do anything when the midfield is literally supplying him with zero service. Added to his goals tally I doubt any potential future replacement will put his work rate into their game as JM puts into his - he is a proper 90 minute footballer & although granted he’s sometimes frustrating to watch I tell you with a great deal of certainty that whoever replaces him long term will find it incredibly hard to match his goals and all round game.
He also attends fans functions like meet the owners evenings etc & was at Blackpool the night when he wasn’t even eligible to play & came to applaud the fans at the final whistle on a bloody horrible cold & windy evening
in fairness they are all entitled to there own opinions it's not my view but some times he gets on my nerves ranting and raving at the ref then that gets him frustrated and he starts missing the goals, his work rate is phenominal but he does miss some sitters but I do like him in the main
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Yes he does miss some sitters but he has put twenty away.
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That bad he is in EFL team of the year
As mentioned above he has lost form but that doesn’t make him a bad player
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He’s a good player and statistically he is one of if not the best we have had for many a years.... it is disappointing how much he isn’t appreciated.
If he never missed a chance or scored 35 goals a season he wouldn’t be playing for us.
Just appreciate him because for every John Marquis you’ve got ten Theo Robinson’s/Lewis Guys.
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My view on this is come the summer and he leaves a lot of people on this forum might regret getting what they’ve wished for
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Guy wasn’t a completely different player he was nesh & would never put himself in harms way - an accusation you could never level at Marquis - Guy on the other hand used to draw defenders to him by running the channels & creating space for Heffernan/Hayter
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I’m not saying he’s a bad player,
And we would be lost without him. But he’s just not scoring it’s irrelevent that he scored all the goals in the first half of the season.
He hasn’t scored a goal in open play in 11 games, even players such as Kane would be given a rest with a run as bad as that.
I see no reason to not try a front three of copps, sadlier and wilkes
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I’m not saying he’s a bad player,
And we would be lost without him. But he’s just not scoring it’s irrelevent that he scored all the goals in the first half of the season.
He hasn’t scored a goal in open play in 11 games, even players such as Kane would be given a rest with a run as bad as that.
I see no reason to not try a front three of copps, sadlier and wilkes
My thoughts exactly.. the best strikers in the world get rested/ subbed when things arent going their way. They often benefit from it in the long run.
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Strange isn’t it he was a superstar in January judging by most of the comments on here. Many thought he was on his way for 2 million +
Now he is suddenly a villain because the goals have dried up.
Football supporters eh bloody rubbish.
I tell you what when he is banging the goals in next season for someone else there are going to be some red faces on here.
CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
Slagging off a player with a one in two goal scoring record is not a clever move imo.
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Those fans are unfortunately the ones who are in the minority but far from silent ! Most players read this forum and are active on social media in general .If your were JM would you feel loyalty to fans like that ? If I read his personality correctly he is more likely to give them the two fingers sign when the window opens .
The winner goes the losers stay to continue their sad diatribes characteristic of most losers in life .
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Strange isn’t it he was a superstar in January judging by most of the comments on here. Many thought he was on his way for 2 million +
Now he is suddenly a villain because the goals have dried up.
Football supporters eh bloody rubbish.
I tell you what when he is banging the goals in next season for someone else there are going to be some red faces on here.
CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
Slagging off a player with a one in two goal scoring record is not a clever move imo.
Not slagging him off,
And I’m sure his form will return but no goals in 11 games is not helping us at all at this crucial time of the season
And a rest may do him and us some good
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I’m not saying he’s a bad player,
And we would be lost without him. But he’s just not scoring it’s irrelevent that he scored all the goals in the first half of the season.
He hasn’t scored a goal in open play in 11 games, even players such as Kane would be given a rest with a run as bad as that.
I see no reason to not try a front three of copps, sadlier and wilkes
Harry Kane scored 1 goal in Spurs' first 13 games of 2015/16. That was a tap in after a free-kick hit the post, so I'm not sure if you'd count that as an open play goal or not.
Spurs didn't drop him.
He scored another 28 goals for them over the rest of the season.
Mo Salah scored 1 in 11 for Liverpool this season between mid Jan and early April.
It happens.
Strikers go through droughts. Good goalscorers are still far more likely to start scoring again than bad goalscorers, though.
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Of Course it’s open play, being in the right place at the right time is an art.
There’s some differences between your examples, neither was for as long and the team was still winning every week.
Since marquis’s last goal have a look at our form it’s not very good at all.
If spurs and Liverpool had been struggling then I’m sure they would’ve been rested at some point
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Dickos
Actually, Spurs were not winning every week. Their record in that period was:
P13 W4 D6 L3.
Which is God awful form for them.
The principle is that if you have a proven goalscorer who is going through a bad patch, you stick with him.
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Since January 1st John has scored 5 goals out of 21 scored by the team.
It could and should have been better. But overall we have scored 72 goals which is 5th best in the league. John has scored 26% of those goals. We have played open football all season the managers way, he has tried to entertain and succeeded in the majority of the season. But we have also conceeded 56 goals which is equal 11th in the league. Therefore in some games especially away from home we would have been tighter then we may not have been so reliant on John and other players to score.
It has been said before if he had taken more chances which he had before the end of the transfer window he would not have been here, some may be happy at that. Would we have signed another striker better than John don’t know, can only look at our recent history I would say no.
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Dickos
Actually, Spurs were not winning every week. Their record in that period was:
P13 W4 D6 L3.
Which is God awful form for them.
The principle is that if you have a proven goalscorer who is going through a bad patch, you stick with him.
Spurs record is actually better without Kane so maybe they should have dropped him.
Either way, I’m not suggesting he’s useless or we should get rid. But he’s not even looking like scoring at the moment and in my opinion a slight change of the front 3 at this moment in time would benefit us.
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Dickos
Actually, Spurs were not winning every week. Their record in that period was:
P13 W4 D6 L3.
Which is God awful form for them.
The principle is that if you have a proven goalscorer who is going through a bad patch, you stick with him.
Spurs record is actually better without Kane so maybe they should have dropped him.
Either way, I’m not suggesting he’s useless or we should get rid. But he’s not even looking like scoring at the moment and in my opinion a slight change of the front 3 at this moment in time would benefit us.
So who would be your front three?
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I've said on here time and time again, we can't drop John because he's the only natural centre forward in the squad; it's a specialist position that not every player can adapt to.
Whether John stays or not, it's essential that GM has at least 2 players for this position next season, even if it means converting someone to play it; maybe one of the younger players.
One thing's for certain, if John does leave, whoever replaces him will have to be very very good to achieve anything near what John's achieved over the last 3 seasons.
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I've said on here time and time again, we can't drop John because he's the only natural centre forward in the squad; it's a specialist position that not every player can adapt to.
Whether John stays or not, it's essential that GM has at least 2 players for this position next season, even if it means converting someone to play it; maybe one of the younger players.
One thing's for certain, if John does leave, whoever replaces him will have to be very very good to achieve anything near what John's achieved over the last 3 seasons.
I've always been keen to see Marquis up top in a simple front two with a natural big man who'll win balls, headers, flicks, draw defenders, etc, and be a general pain in the arse to mark and play against.
It wouldn't be stylish by any means but straight away the defenders would know they're going to be in for a horrible battle.
And the big boys presence may certainly allow Marquis to capitalise on his undoubted instincts and score more goals. People may also then just realise what a job he's done this season, on the whole, to be the focal point of the attack, working his nuts off AND the main goalscorer, too.
I agree with that Rigo, a Chris Brown type of player to play with John would be perfect.
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Seems it's ok to rip Alfie May a new one, but marquis who's been abysmal for 4 months now is teflon. Also Grant's refusal to withdraw him boils my piss. Think we could have a rough diamond in Smith but we'll never know
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I've said on here time and time again, we can't drop John because he's the only natural centre forward in the squad; it's a specialist position that not every player can adapt to.
Whether John stays or not, it's essential that GM has at least 2 players for this position next season, even if it means converting someone to play it; maybe one of the younger players.
One thing's for certain, if John does leave, whoever replaces him will have to be very very good to achieve anything near what John's achieved over the last 3 seasons.
I've always been keen to see Marquis up top in a simple front two with a natural big man who'll win balls, headers, flicks, draw defenders, etc, and be a general pain in the arse to mark and play against.
It wouldn't be stylish by any means but straight away the defenders would know they're going to be in for a horrible battle.
And the big boys presence may certainly allow Marquis to capitalise on his undoubted instincts and score more goals. People may also then just realise what a job he's done this season, on the whole, to be the focal point of the attack, working his nuts off AND the main goalscorer, too.
I agree with that Rigo, a Chris Brown type of player to play with John would be perfect.
Tom Eaves from Gillingham is out of contract this summer I think
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I’m not saying he’s a bad player,
And we would be lost without him. But he’s just not scoring it’s irrelevent that he scored all the goals in the first half of the season.
He hasn’t scored a goal in open play in 11 games, even players such as Kane would be given a rest with a run as bad as that.
I see no reason to not try a front three of copps, sadlier and wilkes
Like City rest Guero and play Jesus?
Who’s as good as Marquis at our club?
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we'll never find out if they don't get the chance.
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I’m not saying he’s a bad player,
And we would be lost without him. But he’s just not scoring it’s irrelevent that he scored all the goals in the first half of the season.
He hasn’t scored a goal in open play in 11 games, even players such as Kane would be given a rest with a run as bad as that.
I see no reason to not try a front three of copps, sadlier and wilkes
Like City rest Guero and play Jesus?
Who’s as good as Marquis at our club?
City do rest aguero, quite often
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Dickos
Actually, Spurs were not winning every week. Their record in that period was:
P13 W4 D6 L3.
Which is God awful form for them.
The principle is that if you have a proven goalscorer who is going through a bad patch, you stick with him.
Spurs record is actually better without Kane so maybe they should have dropped him.
Either way, I’m not suggesting he’s useless or we should get rid. But he’s not even looking like scoring at the moment and in my opinion a slight change of the front 3 at this moment in time would benefit us.
So who would be your front three?
I’d have marquis in my front 3 usually, but for the last two games I’d play wilkes centrally with copps and sadlier.
Or I’d play Blair with sadlier and wilks and play copps in the middle with whiteman and Kane
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Dickos
Actually, Spurs were not winning every week. Their record in that period was:
P13 W4 D6 L3.
Which is God awful form for them.
The principle is that if you have a proven goalscorer who is going through a bad patch, you stick with him.
Spurs record is actually better without Kane so maybe they should have dropped him.
Either way, I’m not suggesting he’s useless or we should get rid. But he’s not even looking like scoring at the moment and in my opinion a slight change of the front 3 at this moment in time would benefit us.
So who would be your front three?
I’d have marquis in my front 3 usually, but for the last two games I’d play wilkes centrally with copps and sadlier.
Or I’d play Blair with sadlier and wilks and play copps in the middle with whiteman and Kane
Wilks is one dimensional coming from the right and hitting the ball with his left. He can’t shoot with his right or head a ball. The problem I have Wilks is all about him and doesn’t pass. Sadlier is slightly better but cuts from the left and shoots with his right. But we are not the manager and he will stand or fall by his selection
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I think sadlier is very much two footed as he’s proven already this season.
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I’m not saying he’s a bad player,
And we would be lost without him. But he’s just not scoring it’s irrelevent that he scored all the goals in the first half of the season.
He hasn’t scored a goal in open play in 11 games, even players such as Kane would be given a rest with a run as bad as that.
I see no reason to not try a front three of copps, sadlier and wilkes
Like City rest Guero and play Jesus?
Who’s as good as Marquis at our club?
City do rest aguero, quite often
Whoooooooosh.
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Imagine we drop Marquis for these two crucial games though, and then we miss the Play Offs. McCann would probably be slaughtered for it, on here and elsewhere.
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That’s called form - & for an out of form striker one goal ca. Propel him back to somewhere near his best
JM has lost his form and is not scoring goals ,
the team by all accounts are not working hard enough to get JM into goal scoring positions,
there are only 2 games left,
we need to win both games to be certain of a very undeserved play off place ,
repeat ,.....
repeat,.....
repeat......
Why would it be underserved if we get it?
It would have been earned over 46 matches.
Because we have been playing crap in too many games and been saved by the odd bit of fortune....
Do you actually watch the games when you go sha66y or do you just go along to have a pop at JM? Either way, you’re talking shite
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Strange isn’t it he was a superstar in January judging by most of the comments on here. Many thought he was on his way for 2 million +
Now he is suddenly a villain because the goals have dried up.
Football supporters eh bloody rubbish.
I tell you what when he is banging the goals in next season for someone else there are going to be some red faces on here.
CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
Slagging off a player with a one in two goal scoring record is not a clever move imo.
Not slagging him off,
And I’m sure his form will return but no goals in 11 games is not helping us at all at this crucial time of the season
And a rest may do him and us some good
How does he start scoring again if he’s dropped from the team?
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Strange isn’t it he was a superstar in January judging by most of the comments on here. Many thought he was on his way for 2 million +
Now he is suddenly a villain because the goals have dried up.
Football supporters eh bloody rubbish.
I tell you what when he is banging the goals in next season for someone else there are going to be some red faces on here.
CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
Slagging off a player with a one in two goal scoring record is not a clever move imo.
Not slagging him off,
And I’m sure his form will return but no goals in 11 games is not helping us at all at this crucial time of the season
And a rest may do him and us some good
How does he start scoring again if he’s dropped from the team?
Exactly.
He might actually be everyone’s superstar again if he fires us into the Championship
YOU DO NOT DROP YOUR TOP SCORER AT THIS STAGE OF THE SEASON, IT WOULD BE MADNESS
If he wasn’t working hard then fair enough.
But he is. He has not been getting the service.
Play him and Wilks as a 2 up top with Copps or Sadlier behind in the hole and I am confident we will win the last 2 games.
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Of course he’s been getting the service, he missed two good chances on Tuesday evening, the chances he was putting away earlier in the season he just simply isn’t putting away now.
A game or two out may do him some good. And give the likes of sadlier and wilks the opportunity to step up
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Of course he’s been getting the service, he missed two good chances on Tuesday evening, the chances he was putting away earlier in the season he just simply isn’t putting away now.
A game or two out may do him some good. And give the likes of sadlier and wilks the opportunity to step up
A game or two could be the end of our season and the last we see of JM.
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Of course he’s been getting the service, he missed two good chances on Tuesday evening, the chances he was putting away earlier in the season he just simply isn’t putting away now.
A game or two out may do him some good. And give the likes of sadlier and wilks the opportunity to step up
He has had two games out already in barren spell, one through suspension and one through the concussion protocol window. He isn't going to rediscover his goalscoring form sitting on the bench, nor is the team going to find it easy to rediscover the scoring knack playing without a centre forward.
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Of course he’s been getting the service, he missed two good chances on Tuesday evening, the chances he was putting away earlier in the season he just simply isn’t putting away now.
A game or two out may do him some good. And give the likes of sadlier and wilks the opportunity to step up
Disagree Dickos you don’t drop your main goal scorer.
We are not Sunderland who have got Wyke and Grigg to call on who can both lead the line. We don’t have that luxury and Wilks is not ideally suited to that role.
You are entitled to your opinion of course but you are fundamentally wrong and the one man that counts in this debate is GM. He doesn’t drop him because he also knows it would be a huge mistake.
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There will be no one more frustrated or disappointed that he is not scoring than JM himself. Hopefully it clicks tomorrow and continues through the play offs IF we qualify
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In spite of the lean patch JM is going through you cannot drop him now with two games to go and potentially more. He is the guy to get the goals and/or create space for others. We have to stick with him and I am sure McCann is of the same mind.
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Dickos
Actually, Spurs were not winning every week. Their record in that period was:
P13 W4 D6 L3.
Which is God awful form for them.
The principle is that if you have a proven goalscorer who is going through a bad patch, you stick with him.
Spurs record is actually better without Kane so maybe they should have dropped him.
Either way, I’m not suggesting he’s useless or we should get rid. But he’s not even looking like scoring at the moment and in my opinion a slight change of the front 3 at this moment in time would benefit us.
So who would be your front three?
I’d have marquis in my front 3 usually, but for the last two games I’d play wilkes centrally with copps and sadlier.
Or I’d play Blair with sadlier and wilks and play copps in the middle with whiteman and Kane
Bloody hell something we agree about !
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Its highly unlikely GM will gamble on resting/ dropping Marquis now with 2 vital matches to go, regardless of his current form. I just hope IF we dont look like scoring then GM’s been looking at a plan B. If that means subbing Marquis then so be it. Hopefully we wont need a plan B, but optimistic im not.
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He will never ever sub marquis
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Did you see Marquis's tweet after he was picked for the PFA side?
There's some bell ends following us who are going to be a big part of why the best forward we've had in 50 years is going to leave this summer.
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As a non twitterer I didn't see his tweet BST.
What did he say please.
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Actually, it wasn't on Twitter. Must have seen it somewhere else. He said that he is pushed by the insults and moaners to improve every day, or words to that effect.
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Think it was on Instagram, wasn't it?
He's one of those who capitalised every single word in a sentence, bizarre. Not that it makes me like him any less!
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That Was It RA.
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Did you see Marquis's tweet after he was picked for the PFA side?
There's some bell ends following us who are going to be a big part of why the best forward we've had in 50 years is going to leave this summer.
Utter shite!
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Well the man himself is obviously riled by the insults and moaners.
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I remember how much we rated Chris Brown.
He ran about a lot and chased back.
He scored around ten goals a season.
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Well the man himself is obviously riled by the insults and moaners.
Or inspired to push himself harder, and shut down the doubters.....
Nobody wants JM gone , but many want our goal getter back to doing what he does best,
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Well Jm. Shove it up the doubters. Well done john
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I told you he needed dropping
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Well the man himself is obviously riled by the insults and moaners.
Or inspired to push himself harder, and shut down the doubters.....
Nobody wants JM gone , but many want our goal getter back to doing what he does best,
Well he has today and a cross from Wilks that a rarity.
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As a non twitterer I didn't see his tweet BST.
What did he say please.
So glad JM got his goal. Much deserved and a great cross from Wilks.
Here's what JM said on Twitter.
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He was everything you want from a centre forward today, a danger when he had the ball, got in their faces, found space, and brought other players into the game.
If you don't rate him, you have a lot to learn about football, he is the best we have had for years.
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He was everything you want from a centre forward today, a danger when he had the ball, got in their faces, found space, and brought other players into the game.
If you don't rate him, you have a lot to learn about football, he is the best we have had for years.
Summed up perfectly....
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MOM and some on here wanted him dropped.
I am saying no more i do not need to as JM did all the talking for me.
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Reading JMs tweet or whatever it is it’s plain to see....
All the kiss asses have allowed him to wallow in self pity and doubt during his lean spell by continually hugging him and saying all will be well....
But reading JMs words just goes to show that the negativity aimed at him was not only justified but has given him a slap across the face....
Well done moaners and groaners, you have single handedly rejuvenated our prize asset....
Kiss asses....your false praise nearly crushed the spirit of this fine talent....
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Reading JMs tweet or whatever it is it’s plain to see....
All the kiss asses have allowed him to wallow in self pity and doubt during his lean spell by continually hugging him and saying all will be well....
But reading JMs words just goes to show that the negativity aimed at him was not only justified but has given him a slap across the face....
Well done moaners and groaners, you have single handedly rejuvenated our prize asset....
Kiss asses....your false praise nearly crushed the spirit of this fine talent....
It's not about kissing his arse. It's about appreciating his quality and recognising his potential - a skill that is lost on some.
Rigs!
Did you seriously attempt to qualify my statement ?
At what point in time did irony get lost on the youth of today...My tongue was poking a hole through my cheek with that statement....lighten the load and smile at the bare faced cheek of it...lol
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sha66y, he does not have bad games, he is just better in some than others.
In every game he does something well, either work rate, bringing other players into the game, or just being a complete problem to the central defenders.
And he always gives full commitment, he may not have a good game, but he does not have bad games, it is the supporters that expect too much,nobody plays well every game, even international players. But some players like John Marquis force the opposition to change their game, or pay special attention to them, Wilks and Kane are just starting to get that attention, Copps has had it for years, and why like John Marquis they are so important to us.
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:that:
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Of course he’s been getting the service, he missed two good chances on Tuesday evening, the chances he was putting away earlier in the season he just simply isn’t putting away now.
A game or two out may do him some good. And give the likes of sadlier and wilks the opportunity to step up
Marquis is not your typical frontman who just needs a high ball to flick on or a ball just feet to hold up and work the defence to create a gap , let’s face it he falls down when challenged or gets pushed about easily , yet he gets goals because he grafts hard when the opportunity presents it’s self and gets his passes or shots when the gap opens up . He misses some great opportunities and gets once he shouldn’t . He never stops trying and appreciates his team mates efforts that get him in . He is the best we’ll see at the Keepmoat without a price tag and if he leaves it’s 20 odd goals that go with him .
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Never suggested for a second that I wanted him to go
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sha66y, he does not have bad games, he is just better in some than others.
In every game he does something well, either work rate, bringing other players into the game, or just being a complete problem to the central defenders.
And he always gives full commitment, he may not have a good game, but he does not have bad games, it is the supporters that expect too much,nobody plays well every game, even international players. But some players like John Marquis force the opposition to change their game, or pay special attention to them, Wilks and Kane are just starting to get that attention, Copps has had it for years, and why like John Marquis they are so important to us.
He actually does have bad games,...every player on the face of the earth has an occasional bad one, but it is only considered bad in comparison to a good game....but the whole issue of how bad a game someone has is subjective......
and now I’ve bored myself with that....I’m gonna watch some telly.....lol
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Perhaps you should watch more television instead of posting drivel on here, your glass is always half empty
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Won't Hear A Word Said Against The Man Given His Goals For The Club But Needs To Take A Long Hard Look At Himself With Regard To His Use Of Capitalisation....
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Won't Hear A Word Said Against The Man Given His Goals For The Club But Needs To Take A Long Hard Look At Himself With Regard To His Use Of Capitalisation....
Oi, that's capitalism.
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The good thing about JM is that when the goals start to come, they usually come in a flurry and he has scored a great header to, hopefully, start a run of game(s) where he'll get them regularly!
There's one thing about him that you can set your clock by and that is - he will give 100% from minute 1 to whenever the game ends.
Let's hope the last goal he scored for us, this season, is in the play-off final and it's the winner.
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His best answer to shut up the critics is to score goals.
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Perhaps you should watch more television instead of posting drivel on here, your glass is always half empty
“ posting drivel”
“ glass half empty “
A very interesting perspective, I’m assuming you would prefer every one to write nice things and only nice things, so we can all smile at the nice things written...
Unfortunately kiddo, we live in a world where diverse polar opposed opinions make healthy debate, however ....in this instance I’ll let your comment stand without rebuttal
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His best answer to shut up the critics is to score goals.
Then surely “ the critics” would best serve JM by continuing to criticise his performances (when justified), to spur him on....