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Title: Mason
Post by: Padge_DRFC on May 07, 2019, 08:42:04 am
Signed for Peterborough
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: Boomstick on May 07, 2019, 08:44:27 am
Good luck to him.
Should have kept him
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: Donnywolf on May 07, 2019, 08:46:57 am
Not a surprise - has been almost predicted daily on here

I said I would abide by what the Club decided as they seemed to have a colossal decision and having terminated his Contract I am still of that opinion
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: big fat yorkshire pudding on May 07, 2019, 08:48:15 am
Well Peterbrough do need a left back  ;)
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: nortikorner on May 07, 2019, 09:01:40 am
sums up the management at peterbrough
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: jackthelad on May 07, 2019, 09:03:25 am
Not actually confirmed but strongly rumoured. It doesn’t surprise me at all to be honest.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: Boomstick on May 07, 2019, 09:05:07 am
sums up the management at peterbrough
What? Signing an excellent player?
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: jackthelad on May 07, 2019, 09:10:40 am
sums up the management at peterbrough
What? Signing an excellent player?

Not this again... we’ve had about 4000 posts dedicated to Mason and whether he should or should not play football again.

He’s a young lad at the end of the day, he’s definitely been taught a harsh lesson which will have proven to be quite a expensive one too.
Plus it’s one that he will have to deal with on his record for the rest of his career.  That’s my view.

I’m sure we all have different opinions on the matter but I see no reason he cannot continue to play football again, yes he lost his job with ourselves for bringing the club into the spotlight for negative reasons but he will learn from that. (Hopefully)

I wish him all the best.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: Boomstick on May 07, 2019, 09:16:23 am
sums up the management at peterbrough
What? Signing an excellent player?

Not this again... we’ve had about 4000 posts dedicated to Mason and whether he should or should not play football again.

He’s a young lad at the end of the day, he’s definitely been taught a harsh lesson which will have proven to be quite a expensive one too.
Plus it’s one that he will have to deal with on his record for the rest of his career.  That’s my view.

I’m sure we all have different opinions on the matter but I see no reason he cannot continue to play football again, yes he lost his job with ourselves for bringing the club into the spotlight for negative reasons but he will learn from that. (Hopefully)

I wish him all the best.
Pretty much agree, although I think it was very harsh the club sacking him, its the courts job to issue punishments.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: Donnywolf on May 07, 2019, 09:32:34 am
From reply #3 above

I said I would abide by what the Club decided as they seemed to have a colossal decision and having terminated his Contract I am still of that opinion

I dont think we should go over this again as as pointed out by jackthelad most people probably have different views on the subject and we have done it to death already and we can all pop back to the original Thread and see those views again if minded to do so (which I am not)
https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=268861.msg835542#msg835542
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: steve@dcfd on May 07, 2019, 12:37:48 pm
Niall was a good player and we have missed him at Right back, although Matty Blair has done his best to fill in. But Matty would have been better playing further forward and we’ve missed that.

Now we need better than Niall next season for me the No1 priority signing, we don’t have that player at the club.

Also another right back has cover, we don’t have that person at the club unless Grant sees Matty doing dual roles again, but that will depend what league we are in
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: Danmckay456 on May 07, 2019, 12:57:41 pm
We paid a decent fee for him , brought him on as a player and left under a cloud , no player is bigger than drfc unless your copps 😜
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: Campsall rover on May 07, 2019, 01:02:51 pm
Well Peterbrough do need a left back  ;)
Do you think DF will play him at left back as my money is striker next season as he hasn’t tried him there yet.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: roversdude on May 07, 2019, 01:05:09 pm
Is there any provision for suing under breach of contract as in the case of Adrian Mutu
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: nortikorner on May 07, 2019, 01:15:59 pm
What? Signing an excellent player?

calling sadlier a W***k** then signing a sex offender
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: selby on May 07, 2019, 01:31:01 pm
  Bit of a teachers pet while Fergie was here, played well this season and was much improved, but far from being a star, the first two seasons he was distinctly average to poor, although not always played in his best position.
  Even this season, at Charlton especially in the league game he was taken to the cleaners, and also at Accrington, we can get better.
  It looks like he has found a club (will take anybody), manager( wife beater) and a chairman ( bitter and twisted) to suit his image and morals.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: IDM on May 07, 2019, 01:47:35 pm
His conviction aside, Mason was developing into an excellent asset for us and was playing very well most of the time..

I said it in the other thread and will say it again here, the issue is being on the sec offenders register, not the why’s and wherefores etc..

Good luck to the lad, but I don’t think he was harshly dealt with by DRFC..
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: Prez on May 07, 2019, 01:58:15 pm
Good luck to him.
Should have kept him

Boomstick you cannot have Rovers who pride themselves on a being a family/community club (and won awards) having a sex offender on the books. Was never going to happen.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: steve@dcfd on May 07, 2019, 02:01:57 pm
Some harsh words Selby from a normally sensible poster. He’s gone like DF get over it, he was a good player where ever position he played. But let’s hope we can sign a star fullback whichever league we are in next season.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: selby on May 07, 2019, 02:30:06 pm
  Steve, what is harsh about stating facts, and as far as him going from us, people who know me will tell you I would have let him go at the end of last season if his contract had been up.
  Admitted he was playing better this season just before he was suspended, but he had had some poor games as well even this season especially in the two games mentioned.
  This season he was benefiting from better players in front of him in Kane and an improved Whiteman, plus the team was better set up, but opposing teams still targeted our right flank even early this season, the reason being for two seasons he had been seen as a weakness on both flanks.
  The other two gentlemen I mentioned, well if the cap fits wear it, and I think you could add being bullies as well in both cases.
   If the chairman of Peterborough wants to make disparaging statements public ally about our club and individuals in our club, so be it, but if your house is not clean expect the s**t to be thrown back.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: scawsby steve on May 07, 2019, 04:24:54 pm
Brian, you've made some valid points there, but I agree with Steve that you've gone a bit OTT with it. They've said some pretty horrible things about us, but let's not lower ourselves by being as bad as them. Let's just do it to them where it really hurts, on the field; and we know we can.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: nortikorner on May 07, 2019, 05:23:03 pm
selby
Well said
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: dickos1 on May 07, 2019, 06:01:20 pm
He messed up,but now saying he’s not very good is just daft.
Lowered ourselves to the level of the Oldham fans that tried to tell us wellens was useless
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: NickDRFC on May 07, 2019, 06:05:52 pm
Marquis has had poor games this season, Kane has had poor games this season, even our player of the year Ben Whiteman has. All footballers have bad games. Looking purely from a footballing perspective, Mason was a 22 year old right back of considerable ability and still the potential to get better, who had improved immeasurably over the last year or so, and had the ability to cover several other positions (remember him at centre back at Barnsley away?)
He’ll probably develop even further at Peterborough and end up having a reasonable career in the Championship.

Despite all that we made the right decision - his actions and subsequent conviction left the club with no choice.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: elmsallrover on May 07, 2019, 06:12:55 pm
In my opinion he gave the ball away far to much and couldn't last the 90min I would have let him go in the summer as well there better out there
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: selby on May 07, 2019, 06:41:11 pm
  He played very well at Barnsley, probably his best game ever for us, as a central defender.
  Earlier in the season he came on as a substitute against Newcastle u21's as a central defender in the chekatrade trophy and was run ragged.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: mushRTID on May 07, 2019, 06:48:24 pm
Developing into a top player before all the issues.
I expect him to go on to have a steady championship career.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: drfchound on May 07, 2019, 06:56:53 pm
Marquis has had poor games this season, Kane has had poor games this season, even our player of the year Ben Whiteman has. All footballers have bad games. Looking purely from a footballing perspective, Mason was a 22 year old right back of considerable ability and still the potential to get better, who had improved immeasurably over the last year or so, and had the ability to cover several other positions (remember him at centre back at Barnsley away?)
He’ll probably develop even further at Peterborough and end up having a reasonable career in the Championship.

Despite all that we made the right decision - his actions and subsequent conviction left the club with no choice.






Nick, I was scrolling down the thread and was mentally preparing what I wanted to write.
You have saved me the trouble.

Mason is a fine player and will go on to have a long career at a decent level.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: selby on May 07, 2019, 07:06:43 pm
  Hound, he would not get in the Coventry side we played last weekend in either full /wing back position, or in the Accrington side.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: drfchound on May 07, 2019, 07:08:46 pm
  Hound, he would not get in the Coventry side we played last weekend in either full /wing back position, or in the Accrington side.




In your opinion.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: DonnyOsmond on May 07, 2019, 07:24:46 pm
  Hound, he would not get in the Coventry side we played last weekend in either full /wing back position, or in the Accrington side.

Hahaha
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: steve@dcfd on May 07, 2019, 07:32:06 pm
  Hound, he would not get in the Coventry side we played last weekend in either full /wing back position, or in the Accrington side.




In your opinion.
  Hound, he would not get in the Coventry side we played last weekend in either full /wing back position, or in the Accrington side.

Selby your opinion on players seems to be getting worse, Mandeville and Mccullough last year, you’ve also written about getting Smith back next year. So saying Mason is average player is your opinion but shows your idea of good players seems to be slipping
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: selby on May 07, 2019, 08:05:44 pm
  Steve, neither Mandeville or McCullough were got rid of because of their play, but because of their own stupid behaviour off the field, and rightly so.
  The same thing has happened to Mason, yes he was better, yes he played well after the first six weeks of this season, up to that point he was distinctly average. He has not got great pace, can be taken on the outside, and out muscled, and has been pointed out by others, his distribution left a lot to be desired. There are better players in this league, you watched two play against us last week.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: mushRTID on May 07, 2019, 08:07:12 pm
Out of interest what did Mandeville and McCullough do wrong off the field?
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: selby on May 07, 2019, 08:16:29 pm
  Steve, I will ask you a question, we finished in the top six of this division, apart from us, which of the other five side would Mason get a game in on a regular basis.
  I will be interested in your opinion.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: drfchound on May 07, 2019, 08:30:17 pm
Selby, some of us only see the opposition teams once a season, some of us see some of the opposition teams a couple of times and a few people see all our opponents twice a season.

That is not enough to form an opinion on how good opposition players are (or how bad) consistently over the season.

Obviously lots of us see our players over many more games than that.
We see their good and bad performances.

For example, any Sunderland fan who only saw them at their place against us would wonder what all the fuss was about Copps, Marquis, Kane and Whiteman to name but four.

You told us how good McGahey was but looking at him playing for Rochdale and Scunny against us, well he was rubbish to be fair.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: steve@dcfd on May 07, 2019, 08:51:02 pm
  Steve, I will ask you a question, we finished in the top six of this division, apart from us, which of the other five side would Mason get a game in on a regular basis.
  I will be interested in your opinion.

To be fair I’ve not seen them enough, but I will say this he was the best right back we had. Matty Blair has done a great job but he is better going forward. So whether he would get in any of those sides I don’t know seeing that all five finished a minimum of 15 pts in front of us and conceeded less goals may be not. But there’s probably only one or two in our side that would and they were in the league one team of the season.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: nortikorner on May 07, 2019, 09:00:44 pm
To be fair I’ve not seen them enough, but I will say this he was the best right back we had

to be fair in depends who he had in front of him when it was kongolo  he was shocking not always is fault
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: selby on May 07, 2019, 09:04:38 pm
  I do not disagree with you that he was the best we had, it is hard not to be when you are the only real one.
  Grant had two weeks and was caught out by Lund, and the Mason problem in January.
   I have watched all them teams twice, he would not get in any of them barring injury. Think of it this way, all of them will want to improve, he is free and available, he has gone to Peterborough, allegedly.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: drfchound on May 07, 2019, 09:16:46 pm
It just crossed my mind that after the Mason situation blew up, our form dipped and our defensive performances overall were not as consistent.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: Chris Black come back on May 07, 2019, 10:16:08 pm
Noncesense.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: drfchound on May 07, 2019, 10:20:34 pm
Noncesense.





But he isn’t.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: dickos1 on May 07, 2019, 11:00:08 pm
Mason wouldn’t get into the Accrington side?
Don’t be silly.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: RoversAlias on May 08, 2019, 12:05:49 am
  Steve, neither Mandeville or McCullough were got rid of because of their play, but because of their own stupid behaviour off the field, and rightly so.
  The same thing has happened to Mason, yes he was better, yes he played well after the first six weeks of this season, up to that point he was distinctly average. He has not got great pace, can be taken on the outside, and out muscled, and has been pointed out by others, his distribution left a lot to be desired. There are better players in this league, you watched two play against us last week.

Mandeville and McCullough were not good enough for our squad anyway. They both appear to be very capable League 2 players.

The issue with Mason far outweighs anything that could have gone on behind the scenes with those two players, whichever way we look at it.

I'm fed up of commenting on Mason myself, I wish we would all just move on, but I will say again that what he has been convicted of is abhorrent and I am glad he no longer plays for this football club.
Title: Re: Mason
Post by: RedRover on May 08, 2019, 01:59:33 pm
I'm only here because I saw Mason and my first thoughts were of Ryan. Now he was a decent player!