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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: RoversAlias on May 17, 2019, 11:16:45 pm
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I am not ashamed to say that I got a bit upset seeing him crying at the end, he was utterly devastated. No one can ever doubt his commitment for the Rovers and fair play to him, he is crap at penalties but he stepped up to take one. Without his goal tonight we wouldn't have been in penalties and without his 21 goals over the season - a club record at this level remember - we wouldn't have even been in the Play Offs.
He's a Doncaster Rovers legend now and I hope he knows it.
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I didnt want to put a negative spin on tonight and yes he is 100% committed but please climb out ffs!
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Nah, he's given everything for this club and people still see fit to criticise him. He doesn't deserve it.
Whole club has done us proud tonight, and I wanted to single Marquis out because he's had a great season.
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The guy was outstanding tonight. Well done John.
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Nobody misses a penalty on purpose. Top player for us and doesn’t deserve any stick at all. Everybody involved gave everything. I feel absolutely knackered and I’m not one of the poor buggers who had to run around the field for 120 mins and THEN take penalties.
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To be fair, as much as I love John, he had a shocker. Only because he was trying too hard. He gave the ball away too often but made amends by scoring the winning goal.. Except Marosi slipped at a very unfortunate moment.
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If you've got Twitter try and give him a bit of love. Make him feel appreciated.
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Trying too hard? He was marked out of the game until he scored and probably his last goal for DRFC !
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When he scored I had a moment or two where I struggled to get my breath.
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Great ball through I think either May or Crawford, then great cross from Wilks, great movement by Marquis.
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Watch the highlights again.
Marquis picked up the ball 20 yards in our half and laid it off.
Then ran like a 100m sprinter into the box, evading markers to get on the end of the cross.
The f**king idiots in here who criticise him have not got the first idea what he does. Every single week.
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To be fair, as much as I love John, he had a shocker. Only because he was trying too hard. He gave the ball away too often but made amends by scoring the winning goal.. Except Marosi slipped at a very unfortunate moment.
b*llocks.
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Why is it b*llocks. He's spot on
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Go to bed. You really are not wanted in here tonight.
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Give up. He was immense.
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We’ve never had a player that leads the line like he does, yes he’s a striker and he should score goals, and he does, but theres a hell of a lot more to his game than scoring goals, those who knock him have n’t got a clue what they are talking about
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Looked lost in first half but second half was back to his best. Well done lad.
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Looked lost in first half but second half was back to his best. Well done lad.
Because that's how we play!
Marquis does the job of two men up front. He leads the line AND provides a goal threat.
That allows us to play a system that doesn't require a second striker near him. So we can play 2 wide men and 2 attacking midfielders.
It puts a phenomenal burden on Marquis, and he steps up to it 8 halves out of ten.
But there are f**king idiots on here who wouldn't see it if it was beamed into their brains with a running commentary.
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The team did us proud tonight and Marquis has been superb all season imo. Thank you John for all your effort this season and getting little old Donny back up to the heights of league 1 and very nearly into the championship. I for 1 am very proud of where we finished this season 👍😀❤️
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Go to bed. You really are not wanted in here tonight.
Oh sorry forgot this is YOUR forum
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Looked lost in first half but second half was back to his best. Well done lad.
Because that's how we play!
Marquis does the job of two men up front. He leads the line AND provides a goal threat.
That allows us to play a system that doesn't require a second striker near him. So we can play 2 wide men and 2 attacking midfielders.
It puts a phenomenal burden on Marquis, and he steps up to it 8 halves out of ten.
But there are f**king idiots on here who wouldn't see it if it was beamed into their brains with a running commentary.
Spot on
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Why is it b*llocks. He's spot on
Behave yourself son
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No.
It's OUR forum. And we're proud of the club tonight.
If you're wanting to wind folk up after that performance, when the result is still raw, you need to look at yourself in the mirror.
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Why is it b*llocks. He's spot on
Behave yourself son
Son !! I'm 48 you condescending prick
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Why is it b*llocks. He's spot on
Behave yourself son
Son !! I'm 48 you condescending prick
Well act your age then eh?
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It's well not we'll
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Why is it b*llocks. He's spot on
I don't know what you're getting out of this. The guy has ran his b*llocks off all night for us again. He scored a crucial goal for us again. He's finished as our top scorer for the season again.
If you can't appreciate him after tonight then I doubt you ever will be able to. You must have a pretty miserable time supporting the team.
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It's well not we'll
Bravo
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We have done this topic to the absolute death! Some love him, some dont. Its like the Messi/ Ronaldo debate. Do you like a guy whos a dream with the ball at his feet or do you like a guy whos just a machine? Me im Messi all day long. I feel if JM left and we recruited well with the money recieved a lot would eat their words on this one. Yes he runs, hes a propper team player, scores 20 goals a season etc but I would rather have a player who scores 15 and creates 10. Hes assisted 5 all season, played every minute, missed 3 pens? He is very much a big part of why we have climbed over the last 3yrs but I wont have the God for like tag some people bang home about. Hes a decent league one player if we keep him happy days if we dont im not really bothered.
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That was f**kin brilliant. I really don't give a shit we lost. I'd have loved to have stuck it right up their arses but it didn't really matter. That was one of the great Doncaster Rovers performances.
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Esdaille is only showing what he’s showed for a couple of years.
He’s a proper clown
Tonight the lads were amazing, I’m in an English bar in Vegas watching it and to be honest I didn’t expect much.
But we were outstanding, all of them
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On balance, we were the best team tonight and deserved to go though.
It's a minute difference that means we are not going to Wembley. Everyone who watched that game knows that we were the better team.
Marquis for me is the catalist to where we are, and you can see how much it meant to him. He didn't have a great game but, his work rate and endeavour deserved him to be the match winner.
Immensey proud of the way we've performed but its a little bit sad that two of our match winners couldn't score from the penalty spot.
We let Charlton off the hook big time!
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I was there tonight, personally watched Marquis put in a shift that was unbelievable. Would love to know how much distance he ran tonight. Last few minutes he could hardly walk, yet sprinted back with one of their players to stop a cross in the last minutes. Then had the b*llocks to take a pen. Just hope he's here next season.
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Once again, I'll ask the Marquis knockers; who, at this level and within our price range, can we replace John with, that will be better?
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48 !!!! Didn’t know you were that old ,must have had big paper round in Armthorpe
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Thanks John for what you've given and done for our club. You've become a legend through your tireless work and commitment to the cause. If you do get your big money move, all the very best, and we will miss you when you've gone.
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Once again, I'll ask the Marquis knockers; who, at this level and within our price range, can we replace John with, that will be better?
That’s very subjective !
Nobody can answer that question because its unanswerable.....
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Well, I have tried to keep out of this, I know what Billy is thinking and I agree with him but will express it a little more to the point.
If you don't rate John Marquis as one of our best centre forwards the club has had in my time and I am 72 yrs old, and watched my first game aged 4 yrs old, You know very little about football.
My opinion of course, others will disagree, but in this case you are wrong, and me, Billy and many more are right, he is one of if not the best.
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Well, I have tried to keep out of this, I know what Billy is thinking and I agree with him but will express it a little more to the point.
If you don't rate John Marquis as one of our best centre forwards the club has had in my time and I am 72 yrs old, and watched my first game aged 4 yrs old, You know very little about football.
My opinion of course, others will disagree, but in this case you are wrong, and me, Billy and many more are right, he is one of if not the best.
Johns record speaks for itself, and statistically he is in the “prolific” category.....so I’m not sure who you are actually trying to convince?
JM does have flaws, that’s a given with every great striker, ...and its these flaws that “ the Marquis haters” ( laughable tag) will voice an opinion over...
I don’t believe for one moment that any Rovers fan would say John is crap/useless...
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In the second half two big Scottish lads stood next to me.
It turned out that they were from Glasgow and had come to the game to support their former schoolmate Ali Crawford.
During our chats we spoke about Marquis and they said he wasn’t having the best of matches and I told them he was likely to pop up with a goal.
When it went in, after they had nearly crushed me during the celebrations, they agreed with what I had said.
They understood the Marquis phenomenon.
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People take a moment and view it incorrectly.
It's like watching me at work and judging how good a father I am, and then watching me at home and judging how good an analyst I am. Marquis plays two roles extremely well but they don't naturally flow together, at the same time. I'm not claiming that he is Premier League quality, but the value he brings, for a manager, is immense.
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You take a penalty and it gets saved, no problem with that. The goalie guesses right and manages to get to it. Miss the goal, from 12 yards with no defender pressing you, that is not on. I could only listen last night, but Marquis was involved even though he had only one shot on goal during normal time, he is one of the hardest working forwards I have seen, the question is will he stay now, something we have to ask about too many players!
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He will stay unless we get a big money offer..
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You take a penalty and it gets saved, no problem with that. The goalie guesses right and manages to get to it. Miss the goal, from 12 yards with no defender pressing you, that is not on. I could only listen last night, but Marquis was involved even though he had only one shot on goal during normal time, he is one of the hardest working forwards I have seen, the question is will he stay now, something we have to ask about too many players!
I've gone into safe mode on that question. I've already decided that he will leave, for a mediocre club and the forum will be full of two types of whingers. Those who are convinced we should have got more for him, even if the fee isn't broadcast, and those who are convinced that it will go straight into the owners' pockets.
So I'll be avoiding the forum when/if Marquis leaves
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48 !!!! Didn’t know you were that old ,must have had big paper round in Armthorpe
Once again I am NOT from Armthorpe
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He’s a poor penalty taker, he must know that himself, but fair play to him for stepping up and taking one. He will get no stick from me.
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Rowe aside all our the other penalties were very good. Not just good. Very good.
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Why would JM leave? He has done very well for you as he has found his level. I think he would struggle in the Championship week in week out.
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AL
And how do you come to that conclusion? Do you watch him regularly?
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Rowe aside all our the other penalties were very good. Not just good. Very good.
Sadlier penalty was sweet as f**k.
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AL
And how do you come to that conclusion? Do you watch him regularly?
He might have done when Marquis was at Millwall tbf.
That's got the square root of f**k all to do with it.
I used to watch Brian Deane week in week out with us. That wouldn't have given me any insight into his qualities after three years playing with the Blades. And I'd have looked a right cock if I'd have then said, "He's not good enough to play any higher."
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Neutral view .
John Marquis isn't a great footballer , he's a great goalscorer , the most difficult skill in football .
Kieffer Moore attracts the same criticism amongst ourselves .
Nobody says Jack when they are hitting the back of the net , go three games without a goal and the criticism begins .
Kieffer was getting pelters after failing to find the net in the first 3 games of the season , he scored a hat trick at Rochdale in the fourth and scored in the next 3 , they soon shut up , myself included .
Trying to replace Marquis and bring someone in with his record and a better all round game is practically impossible given the budget .
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AL
And how do you come to that conclusion? Do you watch him regularly?
He might have done when Marquis was at Millwall tbf.
That was an absolute age ago though in footballing terms.
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Doesn’t sound like Wilks is coming back either:
“Gutted about last night! But proud to be apart of it, so should everyone associated with @drfc_official! The lads left everything out on the pitch. Also would like to thank @drfc_official and the fans for the unforgettable chapter in my life and wish them all the best in future❤️”
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Doesn’t sound like Wilks is coming back either:
“Gutted about last night! But proud to be apart of it, so should everyone associated with @drfc_official! The lads left everything out on the pitch. Also would like to thank @drfc_official and the fans for the unforgettable chapter in my life and wish them all the best in future❤️”
Proves nowt..
Far too soon to know what he’s doing next season..
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Ok.
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And how do you come to that conclusion? Do you watch him regularly?
When he played for us he wasn't so good. Granted he has improved and has done very well for you, as I say he has found his level. However the gap between the lower two divisions and the Championship is widening all the time. Had you gone up I think you would have found it much more difficult than before. I'm not Donny bashing here, i'm stating an opinion. I feel my own club will struggle again next season again, we desperately need a goal scorer but we can't find one. In many ways once the disappointment for you has gone, losing last night with honour may have been the best result for you this year.
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That's goodbye from Mallik, definitely. He was the last player to stay saluting the fans at the end, we won't see Wilks or Kane again I don't reckon.
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So be it if that’s the case. We will find more good players, I’m sure of that. I trust that this regime and manager knows what it’s doing.
We are a good club for up-and-coming players to sign for, and last night will have only enhanced that.
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I still say it, where ever he goes Mallik needs to move away from the City of Leeds, get away from his hangers on and the gang culture, it will be his downfall if he doesn’t
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It's up to Leeds where he goes. They pay his wages
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That's goodbye from Mallik, definitely. He was the last player to stay saluting the fans at the end, we won't see Wilks or Kane again I don't reckon.
Correct - he’s not our player. Doesn’t rule him out returning though.
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Take the money and run
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John will get better with age and wisdom as long as he stays fit. He'll know his own weaknesses and he's definitely the type to work hard at it. He sets the standard for work rate and endeavour. Most managers will love that quality. If he can score 20 plus goals a season on leagues one and two, you would think someone will take a punt. Depends if the price is right and if he wants the deal.
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That's goodbye from Mallik, definitely. He was the last player to stay saluting the fans at the end, we won't see Wilks or Kane again I don't reckon.
didn't mccan say that a top Premier league side had offered him 3 players to take on loan but he could not fit them in the side
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Said it before and I’ll say it again, Jonn Marquis is class and his record speaks for itself.
Was absolutely gutted for him last night,penalty shootouts are a lottery. We know he’s not the best penalty taker at the club but we needed atleast five and he stepped up and had the b*llocks.
I just hope that’s not his last kick of a ball in a rovers shirt, if it is.. let’s try and remember him for the three consecutive seasons that he finished our top goal scorer rather than that unfortunate penalty miss.
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That's goodbye from Mallik, definitely. He was the last player to stay saluting the fans at the end, we won't see Wilks or Kane again I don't reckon.
didn't mccan say that a top Premier league side had offered him 3 players to take on loan but he could not fit them in the side
Think he said it during Jan transfer window that clubs and agents were offering him players as opposed to the start of the season when clubs didn't want to send us players as we wouldn't guarantee them starts
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That's goodbye from Mallik, definitely. He was the last player to stay saluting the fans at the end, we won't see Wilks or Kane again I don't reckon.
didn't mccan say that a top Premier league side had offered him 3 players to take on loan but he could not fit them in the side
Think he said it during Jan transfer window that clubs and agents were offering him players as opposed to the start of the season when clubs didn't want to send us players as we wouldn't guarantee them starts
And rightly so. I wouldn’t want any player on loan if it was in the clause that he had to start.
You earn your place in the team. As Kane and Wilks did all season.
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Kane and Wilks have been huge success stories this year. Any club with a gifted youngster would rightly see us as a good place to develop them for a year.
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Now promoted to the Prem. perhaps we can take some Sheff U youngsters on loan?