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Viking Chat => Viking Chat => Topic started by: steve@dcfd on May 18, 2019, 12:18:55 am
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GM said he wants to build on the team this season to do better next season. We’ve had a good season he’s got the team playing the right way.
Can we do it again next season.
In the starting eleven tonight
We had 4 players still to sign contracts.
Marosi can go for me. Butler looks like he’s going if rumours and tonight tweet is any thing to go by. Andrew and Rowe my man of the match tonight even though he missed the penalty.
We had loan players in Downing, Kane and Wilks who will be returning to their parent clubs.
Then we could lose Marquis.
So it could be a hell of a building job in pre season.
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Grant knows what's required and plans are already in place
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Potential outgoings:
Lewis (Loan Ends) No thanks
Kane (Loan Ends) No thanks
Wilks (Loan Ends) If possible
Downing (Loan Ends) Must attempt to sign.
Smith (Loan Ends) No thanks
Butler (Sounds like hes off)
Whiteman (Please god no but lets face it)
May (Not good enough)
Andrew (Think he will be replaced)
Rowe (Cant make my mind up whether the manager or myself think hes good enough. Too inconsistent. Was awesome tonight)
Marquis (Will go I believe. Think fans who rate him will change opinion on him once he leaves as he IS replaceable)
Mandeville (End of contract?)
McCullough (End of Contract)
Longbottom (Never lived upto expectation)
Big summer ahead.
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Would happily carry Kane all way from Liverpool on my back if he would do another season.
Wilks more difficult due to court case pending.
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Would happily carry Kane all way from Liverpool on my back if he would do another season.
Wilks more difficult due to court case pending.
Would happily carry Kane all way from Liverpool on my back if he would do another season.
Wilks more difficult due to court case pending.
He's bigger than Kane too, so that'd be an added difficulty.
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Especially if he is wearing handcuffs.
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McCann said he's quite down the line with some signings and emphatic that we'll be stronger. Aiming for top two. I believe that will be true.
Next stop, the supporters beach - that was too much stress!
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Big decisions to come, I think marquis is a top player but if we got offered a huge amount I would let go as I think his heart is set on playing at a higher level, I think we might get Kane back as his performances in the second half of the season have been way below the 1st but he is very young and will only get better, I would let merosi go keep lawyer as number 1 and try get decent back up, as far as the defence goes we need a right back even thou Blair has filled in well, the rest is hard to call as not sure who might leave but after the season we have had in McCann and the board we have to trust
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Not sure why most are convinced marquis will leave?? It’s going to take a big fee and there’s absolutely no guarantee he will score goals at a higher level. I think he will stay.
If he doesn’t, we get a good fee and reinvest.
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Kane no thanks.??
Care to expand on that.? For the most part of the season he was outstanding..
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Kane no thanks.??
Care to expand on that.? For the most part of the season he was outstanding..
Simple he just doesn’t fancy doing the hard work required when your on loan , his heart isn’t in it . He also has NO chance ever playing in this Liverpool team and he knows that.
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Kane no thanks.??
Care to expand on that.? For the most part of the season he was outstanding..
Simple he just doesn’t fancy doing the hard work required when your on loan , his heart isn’t in it . He also has NO chance ever playing in this Liverpool team and he knows that.
Can you back up with evidence anything you have said in this post?
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Last night was one of his best performance since his injury. He is a superb player.
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Kane no thanks.??
Care to expand on that.? For the most part of the season he was outstanding..
Simple he just doesn’t fancy doing the hard work required when your on loan , his heart isn’t in it . He also has NO chance ever playing in this Liverpool team and he knows that.
What the f**k?
Kane doesn't do hard work? His heart isn't in it?
He's been the heart of the midfield all season and he's had lumps the size of house bricks kicked out of him. First one to throw himself into a tackle. Last one to shirk out.
What in God's name do you do with your eyes at matches?
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Any club with aspirations to challenge next season should grab Adam Jackson who we have just let go after his contract ended .
Very very unlucky lad to be competing for a start with Pinnock and Lindsay at centre back .
Always played very well when he stepped in for Lindsay when he had an injury but you just couldn't break the Pinnock - Lindsay partnership up they were so good .
Jackson played very well in the championship too the two previous seasons .
Still only in his mid 20's , sorry to see the lad go but I understand he needs regular first team football and to kick on with his career .
Absolute bargain going here with no fee to pay .
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Kane no thanks.??
Care to expand on that.? For the most part of the season he was outstanding..
Simple he just doesn’t fancy doing the hard work required when your on loan , his heart isn’t in it . He also has NO chance ever playing in this Liverpool team and he knows that.
Doesn’t do the hard work.???
Yes you are entitled to your opinion but that one beggars belief.!
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Think Downing will be a nailed on signing
Additionally the FA cup run and the play offs have been extra money that could go towards next season's budget. Unless which would be fair enough it cuts the losses the board throw in each year instead.
Did McCann even use all the budget last year he did say he wouldn't spend for the sake of it
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Kane going to Hull by all accounts. Liverpool want him to play at higher level
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Also if Marquis does go hopefully not. Sadlier I think will play a massive part next season and think he would be better off played central
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Kane no thanks.??
Care to expand on that.? For the most part of the season he was outstanding..
Simple he just doesn’t fancy doing the hard work required when your on loan , his heart isn’t in it . He also has NO chance ever playing in this Liverpool team and he knows that.
I think you will find that statement will remain only in your head...lol
Kane was inspirational under adverse physical conditions, worked tirelessly and commanded the centre, and for a 19 year old as shown great maturity and ability...
Regarding the second part of your statement I tend to agree...I work with a couple of Liverpool mad heads....and they confirmed that Liverpool have a number of great prospects already cutting the mustard at championship level,
and yes Herbie is on the radar, but would need a blinding season at a higher level to make the bench behind the bench....
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Kane will spend the majority of his career playing at Championship level. We may have had a chance if we'd have gone up
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If general rumours are true, on balance it's looking like:
Lawlor
???? Downing/Anderson/Wright Andrew
Copps Blair Whiteman ???? Crawford Sadlier
Marquis? ????
Jones, Amos, May, Blaney and a crop of youngsters in reserve.
I'd be expecting at least a first choice right back, central defender, central midfielder and a forward. A couple of those may be loans. I'd put the bulk of the remaining budget on those four positions and be looking at Jan to strengthen depending on what transpires.
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Herbie has been very good for the most part. He would be wise to get another season with us under his belt, for continued development.
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Kane no thanks.??
Care to expand on that.? For the most part of the season he was outstanding..
Simple he just doesn’t fancy doing the hard work required when your on loan , his heart isn’t in it . He also has NO chance ever playing in this Liverpool team and he knows that.
What the f**k?
Kane doesn't do hard work? His heart isn't in it?
He's been the heart of the midfield all season and he's had lumps the size of house bricks kicked out of him. First one to throw himself into a tackle. Last one to shirk out.
What in God's name do you do with your eyes at matches?
For first half of his loan he was fully committed and ended up with multiple bookings and then an injury . Second half comes back bookings drop and McCann is having to deny that an injury is behind a drop in form , form that has seldom gone above average by his usual performance level . Ever since he signed his extension at Liverpool he has played within himself perhaps to avoid injury. I like Kane he is a light years away from your typical midfielder in L1 but he isn’t interested in it either and has been playing safe for months .
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I think it's only fair on Wilks and Kane to be looking at getting a go at Championship level. They've pissed it at this level at times, coming back to us for another season in League 1 wouldn't really be progression and at their age they need to be progressing year on year. Sad but true. Hopefully Grant has similar gems up his wizards sleeve.
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Herbie has been very good for the most part. He would be wise to get another season with us under his belt, for continued development.
I’d be astonished if he was back here next year. His performances in the 2nd half of the season were a notable dip from the first half but even so, that early promise suggested he’s capable of playing in the Championship so I’d imagine that’s where he will play next season.
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It's very rare that clubs loan players for two seasons at the same level. If they believe in them and feel they're ready to step up to continue their development, they'd either have them back in and around their first team squads or loaning again at a higher level.
In Kane's case there are players of his age or younger around the first team squad already. They may think he's not going to cut it at Premiership level so might be open to offers.
More chance Wilks might get in and around Leeds first team squad for preseason at least.
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Kane no thanks.??
Care to expand on that.? For the most part of the season he was outstanding..
Simple he just doesn’t fancy doing the hard work required when your on loan , his heart isn’t in it . He also has NO chance ever playing in this Liverpool team and he knows that.
He probably only got a game in the latter part of the season due to loan agreement
?too much partying
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Wilks should be our number 1 target, by any means.
I think Sadlier has a lot of potential next year.
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Sadlier has looked the dog's b*llocks even after being physically knackered (probably) from playing an entire season in Ireland so imagine how good he'll be with a good break and a solid preseason behind him.
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The Wilks situation might not be helped by his upcoming court case.
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Kane no thanks.??
Care to expand on that.? For the most part of the season he was outstanding..
Simple he just doesn’t fancy doing the hard work required when your on loan , his heart isn’t in it . He also has NO chance ever playing in this Liverpool team and he knows that.
Please tell me your just a wind up merchant.
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Kane no??????are we on about sumone else?????
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Kane is a brilliant player and I cannot believe anybody who actually understands football and has watched him over the course of the season wouldn’t take him back at this level.
Grant has got a massive job on rebuilding wise by the looks of it and it will be quite a different team next season I would imagine, which is disappointing but I suppose that’s the way it is when you use the loan market.
We can’t complain though becaue Kane and Wilks have arguably been two of our best players over the course of the season. If we could get two more next year just half as good as they have been I would be happy.
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I trust Grant to rebuild this great team and I for 1 am looking forward to another superb season with DRFC!!! 😀👍
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There could be players shuffling back and forth between us and the Posh this Summer.
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As good as they are, Kane and Wilks are not irreplaceable, we must remember that. Finding the right players to replace then won't be easy however, I think a player who's capable of scoring 15 goals a season at least is Sadlier.
Might not be so easy to find a player as explosive as Wilks but maybe one who's a little more predictable but can still contribute with goals and assists.
It will be intruiging to see who McCann has lined up, even if there is a Peterborough connection. If McCann believes in them then that's good enough for me.
I hope Downing signs first of all mind!
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Not sure where all the Peterborough player talk is coming from - let’s not forget that McCann was here last summer and didn’t bring any of his former players with him. That said if they improve our team I couldn’t care less where they come from, and given they finished just behind us with Fergie at the wheel they must have some decent players.
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I think Herbie will go on pre season tour with Liverpool for them to assess him and then they’ll decide where he goes next, would n’t be surprised to see him pop up at Rangers
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McCann said he's quite down the line with some signings and emphatic that we'll be stronger. Aiming for top two. I believe that will be true.
Next stop, the supporters beach - that was too much stress!
that does not work for me as Grant is not going to say we are going to be weaker is he, he I obviously going to say we are going to be a lot stronger or fan will not go and buy tickets, but I hope he is right. I am looking forward to next season
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I think Herbie will go on pre season tour with Liverpool for them to assess him and then they’ll decide where he goes next, would n’t be surprised to see him pop up at Rangers
He’d be as well staying here. I dont think playing football in scotland would help his progression.
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I think Herbie will go on pre season tour with Liverpool for them to assess him and then they’ll decide where he goes next, would n’t be surprised to see him pop up at Rangers
He’d be as well staying here. I dont think playing football in scotland would help his progression.
He wouldn’t have as many tough matches to play in would he.
Better for him to be in English football.
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Suspect he was just thinking out loud but Liam Hoden saying last night that maybe Joe Wright is a long term right back solution?
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This is the problem with loans once their time is up it can create a real problem to replace them effectively .
The loan lads have all played a major part in Rovers reaching the play offs and now it's likely a huge hole in the squad will need massively addressing .
I understand the concept of recruiting loans but I can't help thinking that producing your own talent is the better route long term , root and branch if you like .
There's nothing better than seeing as fans your own talent out there representing you rather than kids from the big PL clubs in my opinion .
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On the face of it, there looks to be a lot of upheaval in the offing, but it's pretty much the same at the end of every season nowadays.
I have every faith in our management team to get the right players in & keep the right players from the current squad to be in the right place for the start of next season.
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This is the problem with loans once their time is up it can create a real problem to replace them effectively .
The loan lads have all played a major part in Rovers reaching the play offs and now it's likely a huge hole in the squad will need massively addressing .
I understand the concept of recruiting loans but I can't help thinking that producing your own talent is the better route long term , root and branch if you like .
There's nothing better than seeing as fans your own talent out there representing you rather than kids from the big PL clubs in my opinion .
I ageee with loans but the thing is, it is unlikely we would’ve been able to attract anybody of Wilks,Kanes quality on permanent deals.
Generally speaking I would rather have contracted players but every now and again when a genuine quality player becomes available we would be daft not to utilise the market.
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We’ll just have to see what happens over the summer. The rumour mill will start and we’ll get linked with all sorts of players. Clearly we’ll need to bring some in but we can’t and won’t necessarily be chasing finished articles.
Last year we brought in Wilks who had struggled to get in Accrington Stanley’s team, and Kane who had never played a senior game (when most of us thought we needed an experienced player in the middle). I remember voicing some disappointment at how both of them appeared on paper, and it shows what I know!
I’m excited to see how we push on from here and feel optimistic about next season based on what we’ve seen in this campaign. But get set for the typical long summer of nonsense flying around before we get back to business on the pitch in August.
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Suspect he was just thinking out loud but Liam Hoden saying last night that maybe Joe Wright is a long term right back solution?
The thought crossed my mind after the game - thought he’d got forward well and he put a couple of decent balls into the box. He could certainly fill in there and I wouldn’t be concerned but I’d still like to see us bring in an established LT solution at right back.
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Not sure where all the Peterborough player talk is coming from - let’s not forget that McCann was here last summer and didn’t bring any of his former players with him. That said if they improve our team I couldn’t care less where they come from, and given they finished just behind us with Fergie at the wheel they must have some decent players.
Jermaine Anderson, Paul Taylor and Kieran Sadlier were all Posh at some stage, and I think during GM's time there as player or manager.
There have been rumours (ok only rumours) linking us with Tafazolli and Chapman from Posh
But I agree with you - if a player improves us and fits in with our club behaviour ethos then it doesn't matter where they come from.
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Next season we needs a Rovers team that plays like the play-off 2nd leg, not like play-off 1st leg. We were too inconsistent this past season to seriously challenge for the top two. We need to learn from Luton and the Dingles to have a team that wins week in week out.
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We need to learn ... to have a team that wins week in week out.
Really? Christ, sign him up, Sky Sports.